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(generated from captions) Kevin '07.Well the parties are running out of time now to persuade undecided voters but they will keep campaigning right up to the last minute.A short time ago I spoke to Labor's Deputy Leader Anthony Albanese and senior Liberal Christopher Pyne.Mr Pyne, Mr Albanese, welcome to the program.Let me start by asking each of you your best estimate of how many seats you think your side will have in the House of Representatives after tomorrow. Christopher Pyne.That is a very leading question and I'm sure that neither Anthony nor I will want to answer it because you never count your chickens before they hatch. This has been a very hard-fought election. It will come down to the wire tomorrow. Labor has thrown everything at the Coalition in the last week and I couldn't predict the outcome but I hope that the Australian public will if they want to abolish the carbon tax, the mining tax and stop the boats and build the infrastructure for the 21st century vote Coalition tomorrow. Anthony Albanese, I know I'm being a bit cheeky asking that. Do you care to answer it?I hope we Velban - we have 76 seats, that's the objective. You can't be building the infrastructure of the 21st century when you're stopping the railway to the national broadband network, when you're cutting the roads budget, when you're saying you will spend absolutely zero on urban public transport and you're cutting back on clean energy. That's not a plan for the 21st century. That's a plan for last century.Anthony Albanese, Labor is pretty well resigned to losing tomorrow though, isn't it?Not at all. We're out there campaigning in each and every seat. I'll be campaigning hard until 6:00 tomorrow. We believe very strongly that when people get in the polling booth, they will ask themselves will they take a risk on Tony Abbott, a risk when they don't know where all the cuts will land. They know there will be massive cuts to issues like the school kids bonus and $8 billion cut to the Better Schools plan compared to our plan. A $2 billion cut when it comes to the national broadband network, their fraud band alternative, and an $8 billion cut when it comes to nation infrastructure, all of these issues are out there and they will ask themselves is Tony Abbott up to the job really of being PM. I think the answer's no. I hope the Australian people agree with me.Christopher Pyne, right of reply.Well Leigh, Anthony is sounding more and more unhinged as the campaign wears on and tonight he's finally, you know, jumped the shark. The truth is that most of the statements he's just made are part of Labor's ongoing scare campaign because they have no plan the future. Five weeks ago Kevin Rudd said that he was going to run a positive campaign and instruct George Wright, the national secretary of the ALP, to run a positive campaign. But their whole campaign is built on lies and scares and we just heard more of that from Anthony Albanese. They have no plan for the future. They can't talk about their record because their record is one of debt and deficit and hopeless budgetary management and 50,000 unauthorised boat arrivals. They dumped Kevin Rudd 3 years ago, they dumped Julia Gillard about 2 months ago, it's been chaos and dysfunction from wall to wall for the last 3 years. We don't need another 3 years like the last 3 years.I want to ask you about the campaign broadly because the prepoll votes and the postal vote tally show that almost a fifth of the electorate has already voted so people have made up their minds well before the campaign was ended. Anthony Albanese, what is that a reflection of, do you think?Those figures have been rising over a period of time. That's just a reflection of the changed electoral circumstances just like more people are engaged with social media than ever before, just like some of the polling, I don't think, reflects reality because young people aren't sitting at home for waiting for the phone to ring on their fixed telephone line rental. We've been very positive about our plan for the future. We also have a good record. We've created almost 1 million jobs, we have low inflation, low interest rates, we have higher work force participation, less industrial disputes, a AAA credit rating.I want to ask Christopher Pyne what about I just said about how so many people have voted. What's your take? Almost 20% of people have voted either prepoll or postal and I think what it reflects is that the Australian public are very over the dysfunction of the last 3 years. They're very over this parliament, b they're over the election, they're over the constant haranguing and lecturing from Kevin Rudd and people like Anthony Albanese. They wanted to get their vote out-of-the-way because they'd made up their mind a long time ago that the chaos, dysfunction and division of the Labor Government for the last 3 years is something they really want to put behind them.Let me pick up on something Christopher Pyne said there, he talked about chaos and division but we also know there's been a huge degree of rancour in the Parliament over the last 3 years or so. Do you think after tomorrow's election that there can be any sort of progress towards bipartisanship on some of the key big issues that Australians would love to see you working together on?Well, if only they had as many policies as they have adjectives and slurs, Leigh. What we've seen since last election drHow about you just address that question.What they've had since the last election is the longest dummy spit in Australian political history. They didn't accept the result of the Australian people. Issues like foreign aid -I'm talking about what's happening after tomorrow.Issues like foreign aid were bipartisan, we had a bipartisan consensus on it, that was thrown out yesterday. Tony Abbott is many things. One of the things he's not is someone who can work with people in a way that promotes consensus.Christopher Pyne, can I ask do you think there's any hope of any sort of bipartisanship listening to what Anthony Albanese said? I will actually answer your question unlike Anthony who is still hype ventilating and needs a good night's sleep. Yes, of course there is, we both support the National Disability Insurance Scheme, we both support exactly the same funding envelope for education.That's not true.We largely have a bipartisan approach to the role of Australia in the world. So there are areas where we can be bipartisan and I'm just sorry that Anthony's still haranguing and lecturing your viewers with Labor's talking points.Gentlemen, we're out of time, unfortunately. I wish you both individually the best for tomorrow. Thank you very much for making time to speak to the