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(generated from captions) Before we go, a brief recap of the top stories tonight.A Canberra jury has found two former ADFA cadets guilty over a sex Skyping incident two years ago.And the west is preparing for a problem military strike against Syria. Barack Obama says it wouldn't be aimed at toppling the Assad regime but to punish it for last week's chemical weapons attack.And that is the latest from the Canberra newsroom. For more ACT news, you can follow us online or on Twitter.I'm Virginia Haussegger. I will be back with an update in one hour. Until then, good night. Captions by CSI Australia

This Program Is Captioned Live. Labor will never deliver a surplus. It's not in their DNA. They never will. Only the Coalition can deliver a surplus.A lot of huff, a lot of puff, lot of bluster, a lot of blowing. No date. Out of control. Fighting the wild dogs threatening to destroy Australia's sheep industry. That's what we've got to deal with and we're looking after our animals so the dogs will come second.And Rupert the play. David Williamson takes on one of the world's most powerful men. It might be daunting for some writers but I've been thoroughly done over by this press already so I have nothing to lose.After three years of attacking Labor for failing to deliver a surplus, the Coalition is refusing to nominate when it will get the Budget back in the black if Tony Abbott's elected Prime Minister. Today the Shadow Treasurer detailed $31 billion in savings and cuts. He says when all the figures are tallied before polling day, these will leave the Budget slightly better off. Health and education have been quarantined and most of the savings have been found by scrapping men offy - many of the ex-pen ves promises tied to the mining and carbon taxes. Chris Uhlmann reports. Its beginning to look a lot like Christmas on the Coalition's campaign trail. Tony Abbott started his day at the Cadbury chocolate factory in Hobart. I encourage you to open one and eat one. This for the press and I'll keep this one. He came bearing gifts. As a result of the $66 million investment, of which 16 million I hope will come from an incoming Coalition Government, the famous Cadbury chocolate tours will be able to commence again. ToBut this election is less about sweeteners and more about the bitter art of Budget cuts and today Joe Hockey finally started colouring in the Coalition's plans. The Coalition is absolutely committed to living within its means.And there's many to be found in cutting tax. The carbon tax package, as it stands, leaves the Budget $7.5 billion worse off over the forward estimates. The structural problem with the mining and carbon taxes was that the Government promised more to voters to sell them than either tax raised and when the mining tax failed to make anything like what was forecast, multibillion-dollar funding gaps yawned. So abolishing both and the spending programmed s bolted them like the billion-dollar-a-year school kids bonus actually raises money. 15.7 billion a saved over 4 years by scrapping spending attached to the mining tax. Another 8.3 billion is saved by axing programs linked to the carbon tax. Cutting the public service by 12,000 saves 5.2 billion, reducing the number of places set aside for refugees by 8,000 a year saves $1.3 billion and in its first years of operation, the Coalition's paid parental leave scheme will leave the Budget $1.1 billion better off so the Opposition calculates total savings to the Budget bottom line at $31.6 billion. You'll see our total expenditure and our total savings and the fact that it leaves the Budget in net terms in better position prior to the election, that's when we'll have proper verification. The numbers have been run through the parliamentary Budget office but the Coalition won't release the working documents. Near the end of the campaign the final tally will be certified by three high lerespected former bureaucrats. This is the most rigorous, the most comprehensive prasz ever undertaken by an Opposition in the leadup to an election. That's exactly what they said last time.So the scene was set for a showdown between the treasurer and his shadow. When an $11 billion black hole was found by the department of finance after the election and when the accountants who did the auditing were fined $5,000 for breach of professional standards. We've been here before. Our numbers is right. The only black hole is Labor's black hole and we are determined to fix it.Both men claim to have a positive plan for the nation. Under this Government, Australia's investing and building for the future to make us a more productive, more diverse and fairer nation. A plan to build a better Australia. It will be in good policy, good regulation and in infrastructure. But attack was the order of the day. If debt is the problem, more debt is not the answer. You have to live within your means. Today I've outlined $31 billion of cuts and I've done that on the basis that so much of what Labor has spent over the last few years has been waste. Labor says the Coalition is hiding the real extent of its cuts until after the election. My message is this, if you don't know where the Opposition will cut then don't vote for them because if you did know where they'd cut you wouldn't vote for them. But after declaring a Budget emergency, the Shadow Treasurer is now tempering expectation on when he will deliver a surplus and start paying down debt while the Treasurer is sticking to his deadline. 2016/17, as outlined in the economic statement. We will get to surplus when it is reasonable, responsible to do so. We are not going - I am not going to make the mistake that Labor made of making big heroic promises and never delivering. Another Labor Treasurer issy saying they're going to deliver a surplus in the next term of Government. Hogwash! Labor will never deliver a surplus. A lot of huff, a lot of puff, lot of bluster, lot of blowing. No date. The Coalition believes the election is entering a crucial phase where people have decided to change Government but want to be reassured the Opposition is ready so the tone all potential frontbenchers are trying to set is to be calm and reassuring.I'm I'm asking the Australian people to invest in our plan, a plan that has been carefully considered and is focused on growing the economy. The Opposition's first plan is to win the election. So far that seems to be on course. Minutes ago Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott finished their third face-to-face encounter of the election campaign, a forum in Western Sydney where they took questions from members of the public. Political editor Chris Uhlmann joins me now. Chris, how did it go? I thought again it was a very even affair and if you're from the school of thought that believes Kevin Rudd is running from behind, that doesn't help the Prime Minister much. I thought also that every time we got to paid parental leave and Tony Abbott tries to explain that policy, he struggles with it and it does sound discord went the rest of the Coalition's message. All up, I thought the first three questions that went to the Prime Minister were much more difficult than the ones he faced at the last forum so let's hear the first one. Do you honestly believe you are not destabilising the Gillard leadership during the months leading up to your return to the Prime Ministership? And do you honestly believe the Australian people didn't see through it? Well, in our democracy political parties put their best foot forward and we the Labor Party aren't perfect and I've upfront and admitted to a whole bunch of people around the country that we've had our problems in the past. The Liberal Party at different times has had as well. The direct answer to your question is that I was contributing fully to the efforts of the Government to try and put our best policies forward. Organise in our party dis agreed. We resolved that through an open pallet of the party come and I was able to prevail. People have different views about those events and it will be appropriately concluded on by historians. Your policy of paid parental leave and-S a great policy but I think the fork-lift driver in Mount Druitt shouldn't be paying his tax those a pretty lady lawyer on the North Shore earning 180 grand a year can have a kid. Just to be fair. That's a fair point, Ian, if it were true, but it big business that will be paying the levy that will fund the lion's share of the difference in cost between my scheme, which is, I think, a fair and just scheme- I think it's good scheme Thanks, Ian.Those are some sections from the debate that's been happening tonight. Chris, that was part of the first half of the debate. What happened in the second? A whole range of questions, things like aged care, will you keep every promise was on interesting one that someone posed to Tony Abbott. I think he took quite a long time to get to the answer on that particular question and was force under to a yes at the end after he wandered around a fair bit. The Prime Minister was criticised by one questioner who talked about him picking things out of the air in the last few days, particularly moving the navy out of Garden Island, floating that particular idea, and the Northern Territory tax zone and, again, I thought the Prime Minister on that particular question tend ed to waffle around. As we said earlier this evening, what the Coalition is trying to do is just sound reassuring. They do believer people have made the choice to change government. Now what they're looking for is whether or not this Opposition is ready to take Government. The Coalition believes it is in a really critical time now and if you looked at the tone and the way Tony Abbott went about this evening, it was all about being reassuring, trying to be as direct as he could when he could and really newt to over-promise, that something else that's become a real theme in the last few weeks is they are trying to hold back on some of the promises they have. They are trying to hold back of the policies because they want to leave themselves the maximum flexible as they head to into the last week of the campaign and lock down something in Government. At this stage Tony Abbott seems to be the front runner, Kevin Rudd is running from behind, there's nothing in this debate tonight which would have changed that.Chris Uhlmann, thank you. Thank you.10 days out from election day, the final battle lines are being drawn in critical electorates across Australia. One of them is Denison in Tasmania, a former Labor seat held since 2010 by the Independent Andrew Wilkie. Labor's trying to win it back but the odds are against it in the face of what looks like being a comprehensive swing to the Coalition across the State. Michael Atkin reports from out on the hustings with Andrew Wilkie. Erators chilly Saturday night in Glen orcy and people are waiting for the big game to start. The Magpie are taking on fierce rivals Clarence for a shot at the finals. We're a working-class suburb. We're a working-class club and people have their hearts on their sleeves when it comes to football and they love it.What they're less excited about is the federal election.I'm not thinking about it. Other things to think about. You really want the truth? They're all a bunch of liars, they should all be strung and quartered. Andrew Wilkie is a regular at Magpies home games at Glen orcy which is in his marginal seat of Denison. Before him, Labor held it for 23 years and these locals want to see the ALP back in charge. Go, Kevin Rudd! Go, Kevin! Got to have Kevin otherwise we won't have a job.I'm going to vote Labor. Why is that? Because I believe that they haven't done as bad a job as a lot of people make out they've done.Andrew Wilkie's working hard to shore up his vote.I'm definitely voting for Mr Wilkie.This time he'll have a fight on his hand. Notionally, it's Labor seat. If I was in their shoes and was crafting a list of seats to go for, to go after, this would probably be at the top.The 8.5 million dollars in Federal money he secured to redevelop these grounds certainly helps. About time for a revamp. Rather than just being the Magpies clubhouse, it will become a bigger, better thing for other teep tool use as well.Labor's candidate , Jane Costin, is desperate to reclaim what was once osafe seat. She's been campaigning for over a year. The lack of confidence due to the sluggish economy is a tough challenge. People haven't got fulltime permanent work anymore so we here are the front line. We see them on a high and on a lot of lows. But it looks like a losing battle for Labor. The latest polling suggests the Government will lose at least two of its four seats in Tasmania and fail to win back Denison from Andrew Wilkie. I think we're seeing a turn of the tide in Tasmania. Labor's dominated the State for the last two decades at both State and Federal level and now it's on the decline at State and Federal lerble and Labor is going to lose seats in the federal election. Bass is first to fall. Braddon would be next in line. What happens in the other electorates depends how bad the swing is.Tony Abbott is moving in for the kill. He was in Tasmania today campaigning in Wilkie's seat of Denison and promising a $16 million upgrade of the Cadbury chocolate factory which would deliver 200 new jobs. For Andrew Wilkie it's been a massive three years. The former whistle blower and soldier was thrust into the national spotlight because of his crucial role in the hung parliament. His support for the Gillard Government enabled him to secure almost a billion dollars of funding for Tasmania including a massive upgrade for the Royal Hobart Hospital.His signature campaign against problem gambling received support from the Government but trenchant Opposition from others. We have very, very strong opinions on Andrew Wilkie because basically he is anti-gaming so if he's anti-gaming he's anti- - he's against our business. I found it amazing he actually got elected. Obviously I'm bias ed because of my gaming background but being a one-trick pony that he is, I just thought it was amazing how he actually got voted.Andrew Wilkie's deal with the Gillard Government for mandatory precommitment on poker machines collapsed after a successful gambling industry campaign against Labor MPs. We don't have the benefit of hindsight as you're making the mistakes. I gave the Prime Minister too long in the timeline. I should have had a much tighter timeline. With the election date looming, Labor has turned on its former ally fl these billboards have been put up around Hobart saying a vote for Wilkie is a vote for Tony Abbott. That's despite the Independent having ruled out a preference or power-sharing deal with either major party. I think what the people of Denison need to understand is that if you don't vote a Labor Party member into parliament here then Tony Abbott is one step closer to becoming Prime Minister. It's as simple as that.Recent polling shows Andrew Wilkie is a frontrunner with almost 44% of the primary vote, almost double what he received last election. I think Andrew Wilkie will easily finish first on first preferences and it will be hard for anybody to defeat him on preferences. If Labor finishes second, Wilkie will win easily. If Liberals finish second, preference go towards the Liberal Party but I expect Andrew Wilkie to be re-elected. I am very mindful of the fact that my predecessor, well, the candidate for the ALP at the 2010 election, he or at least hes party took the seat for grant sodium not going to make - so I'm not going to make the same mistake.Wild dogs are on the verge of wiping out sheep grazing in many parts of Australia, threatening the future of small communities that rely on wool production for their survival. For years, the feral dogs have been costing farmers hundreds of millions of dollars annually. It's become the most critical animal welfare issue facing Australian agriculture. Peter Lewis reports and a warning this story contains confronting images that may upset some viewers. Just about everything Don Sallway needs he can sling on his motorcycle, like his prey, the dogger needs to be clever, resourceful and nimble, often covering 200km a day checking his traps and tell-tale signs he's on the right track. Dog track. There's his back heel and four toes. You have to work on a pattern for a trap. You can't just put a trap anywhere and expect them to come. As $1.66 a litre, if you're putting traps in you put it in the right spot. You do lot of research. I might ride for three days before I find the right area. While patience may be the key to the dogger outsmarting predators, that's wearing thin for people on properties in Charleville in Queensland's southwest. Graziers and the shire council have put a big price on the scalp of every wild dog he can bring in to keep what's left of the local sheep industry viable. The onset of spring and lambing normally should be a cause for celebration yet in recent years this has become the most heart-breaking time for graziers as growing packs of wild dogs target the vulnerable ewes and their off spring. All up we lost nearly 1200 lambs in the year and we're people that have been involved in dog control for a long time and we're on top of it, we're always looking, we're baiting, setting traps all the time and the dogs still came in and in one week they virtually destroyed us. Over the past 25 years, he's seen sheep numbers across Australia decline by 40% but in Queensland the collapse is even more dramatic, from more than 20 million to around 2 million sheep. Some graziers made the switch to cash in on good cattle prices but many got sick of the terrible toll wild dogs were taking on their flock, their bottom line and their psyche. Every time you go up there and hope you don't find another dead one or you go up and find 10 lambs walking around with their guts hanging out. Scientists recently estimated within 30 to 40 years sheep will be a thing of the past on the more extensive rangeland property said like this, that is outside the dog fence that stretches 5,300 kill meet frarz thum Great Australian Bight in SA to Queensland's Darling Downs. I suggest you take a zero off that because it's got to the stage now where it won't be 30 years t will be lucky if it's 10 years.Part of the problem is that there's now as many predators inside the dog fence as outside thanks to complacency, fewer farmhands to keep up regular poison baiting programs and not nearly enough experienced doggers. Intuition honed over 20 years as a dogger has drawn Don Salway to this fallen log and one by one he drags the 6-week-old pups from the safety and snugness of their den. He'll use them as bait to draw in their parents to traps he's laid nearby and then they'll be destroyed because, as cute as they are right now, it's just a matter of time until they develop their own killer instinkts. There will be people of course who are a bit squeamish about cull, eradication and particularly targeting dogs. No one wants to see cruelty in anything and it's cruel when we've got to go and see a sheep that's been mauled and put it down. You think what are we doing this for? Those photos I don't think everyone needs to see but it happens and that's a worry. We don't like it and I don't imagine anyone else does either.Jim McKenzie heads up the committee that's just released a draft National Wild Dog Action Plan which aims to convince Government it needs to refocus and refinance a coordinated strategy for individual landholders, local council community and farm lobby groups. In other words dog control that again has some bite. While authorities continue to argue about the most appropriate control measures and who'll pay for them, the business of wild dog management continues across Australia and for doggers like Don Salway, business is booming. This is just two months work on 20 properties around Charleville. Each of these scalps is worth $500 to the dogger. Do you think there's enough money in the game? I make a living but I work at it. I'm 7 days a week, all year round, and just to try and keep ahead, like when we can get funding, if we don't use it then they take it back so while the funding's going I've got to keep going to help keep people in sheep. Don is the best in the business. He's doing a mighty job but we need probably 1,000 Don salways to make an impact. Baiting is still the most cost effective way to clean dog s up and then we need Don salways to come in after baiting programs. At times I've got 180, 200 traps out and I know where every one of them is. It's all GPS-ed in up here. Got probably 7 million acres of GPS up herech don't need a map. I can go back into country I haven't been in in two or three years and pick up on the same spots where the dogs used to scratch in the past.His traps and those pups he caged up for bait have done the trick but the draft wild dog action plan is no silver bullet. I think we've got to get used to the fact that we're going to have dogs for quite a while before we lessen the numbers and it's going to be the people on the ground and it will be farmers, graziers, miners, national parks, everyone is going to have to be involved and get on side.Pete Lewis reporting. The power and influence of media mogul Rupert Murdoch has been hotly debated throughout this election campaign. The Murdoch press accounts for around two-thirds of all daily newspapers sold in Australia and the organisation has firmly thrown its weight behind the Coalition. Rupert Murdoch's own life and career has inspired acres of print over the decades, some glowing, some not so much and now another writer is having a go, Australia's best-known playwright, David Williamson. Lisa Whitehead reports. What's the use of big a big frog in a small pond? Fine for my father, not for me.Some people are so popular, so rich or so powerful they come to be known the world over simply by their first name. Rupert Murdoch is one of them. Now I controlled something that all the politicians needed, coverage in an intelligent paper that set the political agenda. I think Rupert is a pretty fearsome character. I mean, he wields enormous power and he inspires a certain U. Of fear - not a certain amount, quite lot of fear. Our politicians for many years just did exactly what he told them. The man the English dubbed the Dirty Digger is now 82. For 50 years he's dominated and shaped the media and political landscape. Time erases some of the deeds he's done. We forget them and we forget that to some extent this election is a re run of the '75 Whitlam election when he absolutely had five anti-Whitlam articles on the front page of 'The Australian' every day and every photograph of Whitlam made him look like an axe murderer but this time it's just gone up another level. I mean, there are usually 10 anti-Labor articles on the front page. Why should I support you? Because we can't continue to be a secondhand society that's a pale and sad reflection of another hemisphere and another age.It's no secret playwright David Williamson opposes what he sees as Rupert Murdoch's free market fundamentalism but he says he had to push that aside if he was to make the character of Rupert live on stage.It's no good doing the lefty play right act and coming in and skewering Rupert on stage and bashing him round the head and telling the audience they've got to hate this man so we thought the best way is to let Rupert have his head and present the case to the audience that he's one of the greatest human beings and Ben facers of humankind that's ever lived - benefactors. I came to work on the train to see the carriage open the 'Sun' and stare at page 3. It also puts Rupert, the son, the father and husband to Wendi Deng and Anna Murdoch under the spotlight. The evidence is Anna disapproved of some of the gutter journalism he was doing. Why didn't we get the story about the bigamist with the artificial leg s? Because the (bleep) 'Mirror' gets tip-offs because they're nicer to the cops than we are. Dame e-Liz sbth a bit more forth right. She used to take her son to task bait more often. She certainly made no bones about the fact his Australian papers were sullying the family name. We had to use every connection we had to get you into Oxford. At 71, David Williamson is Australia's most successful playwright. He says he survived the wrath of critics and what he calls the attack dogs of the Murdoch press. It might be daunting for some writers to satirise Australia's most powerful man ever but I've been thoroughly done over by his press already so-Nothing to fear? I have nothing to lose. I'm one of those - according to him - those terrible inner-sit e, cafe-latte sipping greeny desgraces to the Australian population.Lisa whooitedhead reporting. That's the program for tonightyism hope you can join us tomorrow night for a debate on the crucial issue of the quality of Australian schools and how to create world-class education system. The Minister Bill shorten and his shadow Christopher Pyne will go head to head in the studio with me. See you then. Goodnight.

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(Cheering and applause) Well, it's right, tally-ho, and welcome to an episode that's all
about horses and hunting. Our four horsemen
shooting from the hips are a handsome thoroughbred,
Jimmy Carr. (Cheering and applause) A magnificent stallion Dara O'Briain. (Cheering and applause) A well-bred filly Clare Balding. (Cheering and applause) And My Little Pony Alan Davies. (Cheering and applause) And their buzzers are all horsey too. Jimmy goes...
(Horse snorts) Dara goes...
(Horse neighs) Clare goes...
(Hooves clop) And Alan goes...
(Donkey brays) Well, let the horseplay commence. How did the horses of New York City
kill 20,000 people in the year 1900? Were they contagious? They were not themselves contagious. Did they poo out
something contagious? Well, yes, manure, of course. Well, manure isn't
in and of itself contagious. No, that's why I... My mum used to run out in the street
and scrape it up into a... Yeah.
My dad's hat. No, into a bag. (Laughter) Horse manure's actually,
as manure goes, I think rather less offensive
than most... It is, isn't it? I mean, dog really, really smells, but horse actually smells, I think,
quite nice. So, have we got favourite poos now?
Yes. I had no idea this was going to be
the game. This game's changed! (Laughter) My favourite poo...
Oh, dog poo - horrible! Horse poo? Mmm!
Lovely. (Laughter) When I first went to school, I was
told that I smelled of horse poo. Oh, really?
So, you grew up amongst horses? I did, yes. And as you know,
they do indeed produce excreta, and in London and other places, taxi
and buses were all pulled by horses, and there were in London alone 50,000 horses just in the public
transport system, and each one of those produces
an enormous amount of poo. New York City -
2.5 million pounds of it every day. It was becoming an epidemic problem. Not only was there that problem,
they were also dying. About 41 a day, on average,
died while working in the streets, and they preferred
to leave them to putrefy, 'cause they were easier
to carve up and destroy. So, what we're talking about
is huge quantities of manure. I mean, absolutely epic,
gigantic quantities, which were vectors
for all kinds of diseases. Where did they bring the poo to?
Did somebody roll it into a boulder? Well, the problem was
in the early 19th century, it was extremely valuable
as a fertiliser, but by the time... But didn't they call it
'black gold'? It had been, but by the time
you get to 1900, there's so much of it that it's like
any commodity in economics - it's virtually valueless. You can grind it down when it's dry
into a powder, very fine powder indeed, and William Herschel, the astronomer, he used for his speculum,
the curved, polished mirror in the making of the mould for it, he used ground-up horse manure,
so it did have some uses, but basically by the time
we're talking about, the traffic was much more dangerous
than cars, horses, because horses themselves can bolt and you know, drag people off
with them and trample them. The noise in the city
was unbelievable. The iron hoofs on the cobbles
was almost unbearable - you could never have a conversation
on the street - and this poo that was transmitted
typhus and typhoid and cholera