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anniversary. Hervey Bay. Long This morning, Egyptian security forces storm a mosque in Cairo as the Government considers banning the Muslim Brotherhood.And we're united against the acts of terror, the instigation of violence, and the powers of evil that are trying to cripple our move towards the future.Also on 'Weekend Breakfast' - mum's the word. Tony Abbott expected to unveil a start date for his paid parental leave scheme. Labor gets tough on immunisation vowing to block family benefits for parents who don't vaccinate their children.And the Wallabies All
prove to be no match for the All Blacks in the first Bledisloe All Blacks in the morning, it's Sunday, 18 Bledisloe Cup morning, it's Sunday, August. I'm Miriam Corowa.And I'm Scott Bevan. Boy it's going to hurt to talk about the Bledisloe Cup. We have to Bledisloe Cup. We have to do it. We have to.We'll get there eventually later.We'll put the pain way for the moment. Also on the program this morning, Australia remembers the Diggers who perished during one of the defining moments of the Vietnam War. It was a David and Goliath clash really with just 108 Australian soldiers up against up to 2,500 Vietcong and North Vietnamese troops.The battle of Long Tan is one of the few conflicts in the world to have been won at such odds. We'll speak to the man who led our soldiers on that day.In an extraordinary man he is. Lieutenant-Colonel Harry Smith, a major at the time, led his boys then through that extraordinary battle and he has been battling for his boys ever since to receive due, indeed overview and proper recognition from the rest of us, from the Australian Government.Great to speak to him later.It will be a great honour. First up, let's check the weather around the country. Sunny in Brisbane and Sydney today. Another windy but fine day in the national capital.

Let's get the latest news headlines now with at a mosque in central Cairo Miriam.Thanks, Scott. A has ended with police storming the building where hundreds of pro Mursi protesters were sheltering from the deadly violence after Friday prayers. Police and soldiers had to protect those taken from the mosque from a large crowd outside armed with clubs and sticks.Egypt's security forces want to take back every piece of ground occupied by their enemies. This afternoon, the police made their way into Cairo's Fatah mosque. They came up against barricades of chairs and benches put up by Islamist protesters hiding inside. Officers used tear gas to force out the demonstrators. BBC Arabic filmed these shots during the offensive. It is not clear who was firing. Overnight, the mosque became both refuge and fortress. Islamist protesters fled there after yesterday's day of violence. They tried to protect themselves from the military outside. From what we understand, there are still people inside that mosque. They have been there all night. They're now surrounded by the riot police. Minutes later, we heard gunshots. We had to leave. These pictures said to have been filmed yesterday in the north-eastern city had been posted online by Muslim Brotherhood supporters. We can't verify them independently.
independently. Checks suggest they are when begin. A man in a grey T-shirt approaches the tanks with his arms extended. He stops. We'll freeze the pictures here. The man is shot and he falls to the ground. We're not sure if he recovered. The residents of Cairo neighbourhoods have watched the battles from the TV. Their streets are calm. Many here support the military. This woman runs a clothes shop. TRANSLATION: There's destruction and shooting and people are dying everywhere. The curfew will protect people. In the past we could live safely. All the terrorists were hiding thanks to Mubarak.The brotherhood marching here in Cairo yesterday was banned during the Mubarak years. Egypt's new Government appears to share the Mubarak view. It accuses the movement of terrorism and says it is now considering outlawing the organisation once more. TRANSLATION: There will be no reconciliation with those whose hands are covered in blood. There can be no reconciliation for anyone who has raised arms against the country, against its people.This country now enters the fourth day of its state of emergency. The Egyptian State is keeping its forces on the streets. Its aim
now appears to be forces on the streets. now appears to be clear - the now appears to be clear - defeat of the Muslim Brotherhood.Which comes Egypt's interim PM has Brotherhood.Which comes as Egypt's interim PM Brotherhood. A spokesman says the Brotherhood.
legally dissolving the Muslim Brotherhood. A the party has Brotherhood. A spokesman says the party has effectively declared war against declared war Our correspondent Philip Williams is in Cairo and he
declared war against the State. says the Williams is in Cairo says the decision will have widespread implications.That means that the Muslim
Brotherhood's political aspirations are dead in the water, because this government will not allow it, it appears. It's made it pretty clear this is the intention, that the brotherhood will effectively be driven underground as it had been for about eight decades before hand. What that means in the longer term we simply don't know. If the experts are right and about roughly one third of the country supports the brotherhood or did support the brotherhood, where does that leave their sentiments, where does that leave their political aspirations. This country sadly is drifting further and further apart. There are simply almost two Egypts now or several Egypts in fact, because there are some people just caught in the middle, don't like what's happening on the Islamist side, don't like what's happening with the military and the interim government, and some people feel that their revolution they had in January 2011, has effectively been hijacked by both parties. Huge dissatisfaction, anger, frustration op all parts and no apparent solutions ahead.ABC correspondent Philip Williams in Cairo. Meanwhile, police in Sydney are urging people planning to protest today against the violence in Egypt to do so peacefully. Yesterday, around 200 people gathered outside the Egyptian condemn
consulate in Surry Hills to condemn the bloodshed seen in Cairo in the last week. Today's protest at Town Hall is expected to draw a bigger crowd. Turning to the Federal election. Parents will be the focus of day 14 of the campaign with both Labor and the coalition expected to make policy announcements today. Tony Abbott is in Melbourne where he'll announce his paid parental leave policy will take effect from mid 2015 if the coalition wins the election. The PM is in Adelaide this morning and will announce toughening of morning and will announce a
toughening of the rules around immunisation. toughening of the rules immunisation. Our political editor Lyndal Curtis joins us for more. Good morning Lyndal. for We'll start with Tony Abbott. He's expected to give us a lot more detail about his parental leave scheme today.Yes, good morning Miriam. He's going to announce today that the coalition, if it is elected, would start its paid parental leave scheme on 1 July 2015. That's also the date that the coalition will cut company tax. The coalition says its paid parental leave conceal will be fully funded. The costings have been done by the Parliamentary Budget Office. The scheme is expected to cost about $5.5 billion a year and the coalition says that those costs will be offset by a levy on the 3000 biggest businesses. We don't know exactly how much that is intended to raise, but speculation has always been it's around $3 billion. The other thing that will help fund it effectively rolls in the Government's scheme. That costs about $1.6 billion a year. The coalition is also proposing to move Commonwealth, state and territory public servants on to the new scheme instead of getting what they entitlements
get under their existing entitlements they would go on the new scheme as well. This than
scheme is a lot more generous than the Government's scheme. Government's scheme is 18 weeks at the national minimum wage. The coalition's scheme is paying women up to $150,000, their salary for six months.Moving now to Labor and the PM has taken a hardline stance on immunise nation.Yes. The PM starts his day in Adelaide. He's attending a Vietnam memorial. He'll go to Sydney for some health announcements, chiefly is the decision to say that those people who do not immunise their children, who don't have religious or medical grounds on which to not immunise their children, won't get what's called family tax benefit Part A supplement. That supplement is paid when children are immunised at 1, 2 and 5 years of age. It's worth $726 a year per child. Previously, conscientious objectors to immunise nation had still been able to get that supplement. They will no longer get it if they don't immunise their children. The PM will announce a boost in funding for major hospital complex in Sydney's west as well.Our political reporter Lyndal Curtis in Canberra.Thank you.Still on politics, Bob Katter's Australia Party says it is giving most of its preferences around the country to the LNP and palm are united party. But strategic deals have also been done with Labor. Palmer. The party says the Liberals have their support for the Lower House in Queensland and Upper United Party
House elsewhere. The Palmer United Party will Lower House preferences in United Party will get Katter's Lower House preferences in all other States. Lower House preferences other States. The Labor Party
will get Lower House preferences in all
other States. will get some Upper House preferences in Queensland in a move designed to defeet the Greens. To other news - police are calling for witnesses after two fete crashes in Victoria overnight. One man died after his motorbike collided with a ute at haven hall in Melbourne's west early this morning. Another man died and three people were injured in a two car collision near Geelong at half past eight last night. Ravenhall.Overseas, bad weather has forced rescue teams in the Philippines to abandon their search for survivors from the wreck of a passenger ferry. Almost 900 people were on board when it collided with a cargo ship near the port of Cebu and sank. At least 32 people are still missing.Small boats doing the sweep of the waters fading hopes
where the ferry sank in the fading hopes of any more survivors. More realistically, this is now a search for bodies. Diving teams have been accessing the wreck where it is thought most of those who are missing will eventually be found. We dived 110 feet below and think it is not so clear. Not so clear. But we can see the shipThe St Thomas Aquinas was carrying nearly 900 passengers and crew when it was in collision with a cargo ship. Survivors and rescuers have talked about the terrifying moments as the ferry began to list to one side and then sink within half an hour. Happening at night, most of the victims were trapped below decks in their in time. Hundreds of their cabins, unable to in time. Hundreds of other
passengers were in time. Hundreds passengers were forced to leap into the sea, many without lifejackets. As relatives of lifejackets. those still missing gather at hotels in those still missing hotels in Cebu waiting for any news, so an investigation has been launched news, so an investigation been launched into the cause of the collision in a country renowned for maritime mishaps. In this archipelago of thousands of islands, ferries are vital to the Philippines but are but they're notoriously plague bid poor safety standards. Investigators will now be looking into whether this looking latest tragedy will join that catalogue of missed a ventures that could have been avoidedPolice in the UK have announced they are examining fresh evidence into the death of Princess Diana. Scotland Yard says it's scoping the recently received evidence and assessing its relevance and credibility. it has not launched an reinvestigation into the deaths of the Princess of Wales and Dodi Al Fayed in a Paris car crash in 1996. A 2008 inquest found the couple were unlawfully killed due to their driver's gross negligence. To sport with Amy Hetzel. More than 6 8,000 people filled Sydney's Olympic Stadium to witness the All Blacks 47-29 win over the Wallabies. Australia looked to match New Zealand stride for stride in the rugby championship opener but a Ben Smith hat-trick helped the visitors runway with the game in the second half. A stunning Will Genia try just before the break gave Australia hope of victory, but poor decisions cost the Wallabies lay in the game. Captain James Horwill says there's plenty to learn from the experience.Test match footy is the stakes turn up. Everything is magnified. Mistakes are magnified and so and we've got to learn from that that we brought a lot of pressure on ourselves and released a lot of pressure off them at times. We need to be better at building pressure and also not heaping pressure on ourselves.Geelong has cemented itself in the AFL's top four with last night's 66 point thrashing of West Coast at Subiaco Oval. In other matches, Port Adelaide was too strong for the Suns, Brisbane outclassed GWS, the Cats ran riot over West Coast and the Bombers season is well and truly on the slide after the club suffered its fourth loss in as many weeks. Essendon was completely outplayed by the Kangaroos withdrew Petrie leading with three goals. Only a fight in the last quarter from the bombers helped to reduce the deficit. For a moment. A wrap for the guys. Big rivalry to Essendon, pretty happy.While in Perth, the Cats came to play from the opening bounce against the Eagles. Geelong was 56 points clear by halftime and the rout continued in the second half. Cronulla has snatched a last-minute victory against the Dragons after prop Andrew Fifita landed a miracle try in the final minute. The Dragons look upset for in front of their home crowd until Fifita came storming home in the 8th minute. Fifita chipped ahead. Try to the Sharks. A miracle win. What about that? We dug deep and pluck key plays and plays that you never see again, we didn't really practice, just come off as a other matches the Cowboys won come off as a fluke.In in their third straight downing other matches the Cowboys the Titans 22- 10. their third straight the Titans 22- 10. In bad news the Titans 22- for the Titans, Luke O'Dwyer is out for the season for the Titans, Luke O'Dwyer Bird may be as well after suffering serious injuries. Earlier, the Canterbury Bulldogs had a 28-16 win over the Raiders thanks to a Sam Perrett had trick. The English Premier League season has kicked off and David Moyes has made a winning start as manager with the champions cruising to a 4-1 victory at Swansea. Moyes has been handed the task of defending United's title following Alex Ferguson's Danny Welbeck
retire: Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck scored twice for united. Dangerous. Danny Welbeck has put it in. Two quick goals for the champions. They have taken control.In other matches, Everton drew two-all with Norwich while Arsenal suffered a 2-1 defeat to Aston Villa. To cricket now, and Australia's batsmen have struggled once again as they drew their two-day tour match against the England Lions. Shane Watson was the only member of the top six to pass 35 as the tourists to
struggled to 6 for 227 in reply to the Lions' 7 declared for 269. The fifth test begins at the oval later this week.Australia's Sally Pearson has claimed a silver medal at the world athletics championships in Moscow. American Brianna Rollins won gold with Pearson second in 12.55 seconds. An impressive result given her interrupted preparation through injury. I have been injured twice this year. Coming back always a struggle, I still
managed to get on the podium. That's what I'm happy aboutUsain Bolt completed another sprint double racing to his third consecutive 200 metres title in the year's fastest time.Cruising home in those last it ever metres doesn't
though. He does it easy, doesn't he.He's an extraordinary athlete. Great news on Sally as well. Silver is pretty dam good.Absolutely. Second best in the worldSilver to the Wallabies in the match last night. I like that.It's silver. We've got to look for that silver lining for that match.Thank you Amy.Thank you Amy.Coming up how could preference deals determine who runs the country? Also ahead - the survivors of the battle of Long Tan remember their fallen brothers in arms, but the fight continues for proper official recognition.Later all analysis on how Australia can get back to Bledisloe glory after last night's thumping loss to the All Blacks.The deals have been done and the paperwork submitted. Preferences have been lodged with the Australian Electoral Commission and come September, Labor will have the Greens on their how to vote cards in all States except it
Queensland. ALP ministers say it will give them the best chance of securing a majority independent
government.Meanwhile, independent Senator Senator Nick Xenophon has defended his decision not to direct his preferences to the Greens. It's likely to affect Senator Sarah Hanson-Young who is at risk of losing her seat. Here is what Senator Nick Xenophon yesterday.
told us here on ABC News 24 yesterday. About a week ago former Senator Bob Brown former leader of the Greens with a big of meg phone negotiations had a press conference said I need to give preferences to them. Extraordinarily, there was a massive backlash. My campaign office, my electoral office got literally hundreds of calls and the volunteers that I rely on to hand out how to vote cards of which I'm still short of in overwhelming numbers said don't major
put the Greens ahead of the major parties. I've listened to my supporters and what I'll be doing is putting the major parties, the coalition and the ALP, equally on Ayahuasca a split ticket in terms of my preferences. That's if there's preferences to distribute T trickles down one side to the Greens on the Labor side before it goes to the Liberals and on the other side it goes to mine tore conservative parties before it goes to Labor and the greens. Minor.That's the Independent Senator Senator insight
Nick Xenophon. To get some insight on how preference deals work, we're joined now by Glenn Druery. Thank you so much for coming in on 'Weekend Breakfast' Sunday morning, nice and early for you.It certainly is.We're all very keen to understand how preferences will influence this election. They obviously had a massive influence in last election when we saw a result that brought us a hung Parliament. Are you able to give us an assessment of how you see things lying at this point with those announcements yesterday? Of ticket hasn't
course the full group voting ticket hasn't been published that and I'm yet to go through that and see how it will impact precisely. You're right, it will have a big impact. We may see the elections of a couple of minor parties around the country. We have seen the ALP have done a deal with Katter in Queensland and we may Seacat ter elected in Queensland.In the view of many Australians, minor parties are flies in the parliamentary ointment, they it
get in the way. Do you think it works having Independents and mine for parties in Parliament. Why is that? I think we've got to ask this question. What type of political system do we want in and happy to
this country. I'm quite proud and happy to be associated with what I believe is a mature democracy where minorities get a say. At the other end of the system do you like something like in America a two-party system? I would think most Australians would like people to have a fair go.Tony Abbott said the minor government, minority government is an experiment that didn't work. Going by Abbott's words, the two-party system seems to work just fine and throws up potentially all sorts just fine and the alternative of problems.Look, if throws up potentially to the two major to the don't want Independents there. They want to be don't want Independents They want to be able to govern in their own right and do what they They want to be able to they want. The more people in their own right and do have a say the they want. The more we have
have a say the fairer democracy we have the better it is have a say the the community, I we have the better it is for the you look at political systems internationally it is you look at political internationally it is not
altogether uncommon to you look at political systems
internationally it is altogether uncommon to have
parliamentary internationally it is not
altogether uncommon to there is a great deal of doing and fro-ing from minority parties. Is Australia somewhat of an exception that we of an exception that we haven't experienced as much of this? You've only got to look at Italy and what happened there in post World War II. They've had more political parties and governments than you and I have had hot breakfastsDo you think so.They've got great standards of living, one of the best a system
around the world. Do you want a system where people have a go and people have a say or do you want a two-party systemYou've stood your he was is independent Myanmar party candidate in various elections Y put yourself through that? That's a good question. Why indeed. I'm not standing this time. I'm helping others get elected. It is my business to work with small parties and Independents to get elected to Parliament. Why indeed. Why would you want to run? At the end of the day, you know, it is for the community. It is about community representation.You can explain to us a little bit about the role that you play with supporting Independents and minor parties in developing those strategies. The strategies would you have to have to as an an independent or minor party would be different to the major parties? Indeed. people
The major parties all have people such as myself working with them hand explaining numbers and strategies and how things work. The majority of the people that are elected to Parliament in the major parties don't really understand how they got there. You might have a new group come along and I think if a party like the stable population party, for example, who are very philosophical about their views, and yet they don't really understand the inkiss cease how the system work, how the deals with put together, the numbers are done. That's where I come in. I help group like this.We talked a bit about the major party views about a broad ink rah system. What's your feeling with the electorate this time around after with around after going through a minority government for the past three years. around after going through past three years. What's the appetite in the electorate like for Independents and minor party candidates? I think we've got to separate we've going on in the Lower House what's going on in the Senate. going on in We've just seen a hung We've just seen Parliament with several Independents control of the country effectively. A lot of people said this is a bad thing for democracy. I think quite the opposite. I think this keeps the major parties honest. I think they have to listen to the voice of people in the community. I worked in NSW Parliament for a long time. I was privy to many figures and I was able to understand what happens in these seats where Independents are in control. I can tell you that you get more bang for your buck if you have an independent, absolutely, but seat.During
more so than a marginal seat.During during Glenn Druery it will be a fascinating thing to unfold. Thanks for the place that independent's and fine nor parties will play. Thanks for your attendanceThanks.Bali is reflected in a new dance production.Zombies in the Bunyan tree is ane eclectic show bringing together Balinese culture, contemporary dance. The performance by the Tracks Dance Company is part of the Darwin Festival. Alison Middleton reports on it. We became quite interested in the influences that Bali has had very long-term in Darwin both in architecture and lifestyle and holiday destination as well as cultural activity. We wanted to just take our understanding of that a lot deeper. It is a classic Balinese story retold for a Darwin audience.We're basing it on a hint dough store Hindu story a princess who gets stolen by Demons and it upsets he was everybody and balance is restored. I think that thing of finding balance for all of us in our lives is really what this show is about. It is night and day, you know, the earth, the sky, life is all about finding that balance.The battle between good and evil is at the heart of this production by Darwin's Tracks Dance Company. Two unusual forces butterflies who
fight to the death.We have the butterflies who live in the air and the Demons who live underground. As they start to battle each other for extremecy, supremacy as people die they become zombies.Breakdancing Demons moved to the beatbox sounds local performer Kay fuzz. The living dead represent our era of technology living dead represent our of technology and how by tuning into gadgets we are disconnecting from the world around us. People see people with their headphones on or plugged into their IPad and go they're like zombies.Zombies sound a warning bell how Darwin is changing.People are worried that we're losing what we used to have or what really makes Darwin what it is. We use our zombies to represent that fear that people really are afraid of losing something or becoming Numbulwar or brain dead.One of the show's choreographers group in Bali. She took the dance company's artistic directors back to her village to gather ideas for the show.We mix it. We combine T western-style and traditional style.She says there are parallels between Balinese and popular culture.We have that in part of our story, it is like Demons, can be zombies.The Darwin's young breakdancers the show is an opportunity to perform for a different audience than usual. It shows them a different way to use their skills and re creativity in a dance theatre perspective and the way Tracks dance nurtures young dancers as they come through and involve them in productions a positive and rewarding
experience for the dancers. It has a lot of ridge or Aboriginality. It it is a creative out let, especially young men in dance, it is a great thing for them to be involved in. By bringing together so many dance styles in Darwin, the production aims to reflect the city's diversity.When you see families walking down the Iluka in the supermarket you see all these different people of different cultural backgrounds but they're kind of a family. What's important it will reflect back to people what we see in Darwin, that rich cultural mix. Aisle. Let's take a look at the satellite. A cold front pushing into the south-east is causing showers and a few thunderstorms to develop in south-east South Australia, Victoria and Tasmania. With potentially damaging winds ahead of the front. Skies are mostly clear elsewhere due to a high. Looking around the country:

Still to come on 'Weekend Breakfast' - where did it all go wrong? We'll get a breakdown of the Wallabies' Bledisloe
crushing defeat in the first Bledisloe Cup meet.You're watching ABC News 24.The top stories from ABC News. The Opposition leader Tony Abbott will today unveil the coalition's paid parental leave scheme which he says will come at no additional cost to the budget. Under the policy, new mothers earning up to $150,000 would be given their full salary for six months. The coalition says the policy would start in the middle of the year 2015 if they're elected to government and it will cost $5.5 billion a year. Meanwhile, the PM is set to announce a toughening of the rules around immunise nation. Any parent who wants to receive the Family Tax Benefit Part A could be forced to fully immunise their child. The Government says it will no longer allow conscientious objectors in a move it host will reduce instances of diseases like measles and whooping cough.Egypt's interim PM says he supports making the Muslim Brotherhood an illegal organisation. It follows another day of conflict during which a mosque filled with pro Mursi supporters was storm by security forces. The All Blacks have won the opening Bledisloe Cup test in Sydney defeating the Wallabies, a painful 47-29. A hat-trick painful 47-29. from Ben Smith painful 47-29. A from Ben Smith helped the Kiwis seal the big win. Wallabies' coach Ewan McKenzie says there's no reason to panic. Not yet anyway. Time to take a look at the front pages of today's major newspapers.People smugglers are keeping up with the times according Victoria's 'Sunday Age' by offering asylum seekers the possibility of flying to Australia using fake tourist visas. Iranian asylum seekers in Indonesia told the paper they have been offered the option of coming to Australia by plane for between $15,000 and $25,000. The offer reportedly comes with a money back guarantee.Meet Jodie Watkins, allergic to the modern condition known
world. She suffers from a condition known as multiple chemical sensitivity and she's be able to tolerate exposure to conveniences.
even the most common of modern conveniences. Her plight is being chron-Coled by 'The Sunday Tasmanian' which writes that Ms Watt kins is fighting the construction of an NBN near herself built chemical free home.Queensland's Sunday male tells the story story of Thompson murdered by her mentally-ill mother Kim Paterson who leapt to her death from Brisbane's Storey Bridge. Doctors treating Ms Paterson failed to detect the seriousness of her psycho kiss despite warning from her husband and GP. Sydney's 'Sun Herald' has a story on the increasingly volatile atmospherics on the sideline of junior rugby league. Game officials are reportedly calling for new antiviolence legislation to be introduced in the wake of several violent brawls between spectators. That's not brawls between spectate sporting.What's going on out there in the sidelines? Not sure. Not sure.Security might sure. be called for.Competition? be called That seems an extraordinary measure. Is that what they're looking for including this legislation which seems far removed from sport.We hope we can stamp that out. removed from can stamp that out. We would like to know more about your can stamp that out. We voting habits.Do you follow how to vote cards in will the preference deals currently being negotiated influence the way you vote? Are you disillusioned with the major parties and considering perhaps for the first time offering your vote to, say, an independent or minor party candidate? We would certainly like to hear your opinions. I'm sure there are plenty of them. To have your say just use the ABC News 24 hashtag or Shea your views on FaceBook and via email using these addresses onscreen.'Weekend Breakfast' can be watched live on the web. That's right. Visit the main ABC News website at abc.net.au/news and there you will find a link to ABC News 24 which is streamed live every day. The lawyer representing Oscar Pistorius says the South African track star will go on trial in March next year for girlfriend.
the alleged murder of his girlfriend. Pistorius claims he mistook Reeva Steenkam for an intruder when he shot her through a locked bathroom door on Valentine's Day. It will run from the first week of March until the end of the month. 29 people have died and 14 others missing in floods and landslides triggered by heavy rains in north-eastern China. Chinese vorts have sent relief supplies including food and water to the worst-hit areas. Hundreds of soldiers are assisting with rescue and recovery efforts. The floods have so far forced the evacuation of 65,000 people from their homes. And nine building contractors and a policeman have been killed by insurgents in an attack on a camp in western Afghanistan. The contractors were working on a foreign funded road building project in Herat province. Police say Taliban militants arm with rocket propelled guns and automatic weapons attacked the camp. A tourist has been crushed to death during a gondola ride on the famous grand canal in Venice. The German man aged 50 was in a gondola with his wife and throw children when it collided with a water bus.On this day back in 19666, 108 Australian soldiers became part of history, overcoming up to 2,500 Vietcong and North Vietnamese troop in a ferocious and bloody encounter that ended up claiming Australian lives, have of them on this day. This is the battle of Long Tan. 47 years on more than 50,000 Vietnam
Australians who served in the Vietnam War will honour their fallen comrade across the country. 18 lives. Lieutenant-Colonel Harry Smith led the Australian troops in the battle of Long Tan and for him another battle goes on. He's calling on the Federal Government to properly recognise the veterans. Lieutenant-Colonel Smith join me now from Hervey Bay in Queensland.Always an honour to speak to you. Thanks for your time.Thanks very much Scott. It is 12 months yesterday since we talked about the Long Tan cross arriving in Australia.That year has flown buy. When you wake up each August 18, Harry, what goes through your Hartmann mind? Scott. As I get older, I get soldiers we lost, they left behind, and, indeed, some of the - not some, the families of the enemy we killed. It was a terrible mute mutilation of everyone, including us and them.As the years pass and you look back on that day itself, while Australia lost 18 young men during that battle, given you were up against a much larger force, what was it that day that saved you and your men from far greater losses? Scott, I would have to say the main asset we had was 24 artillery guns finding 3,500 rounds of high explosives. On top of that, my soldiers fired 10,300 small arms rounds from their machine-guns and rifles and between the two of them the enemy could not get into our position and we held them back until they finally decided they'd had enough and withdrew.How often do you look back in your quietest moments and go "how did we get out of that?" I don't know. I never thought that we wouldn't get out of it. Some of the soldiers say, a boss do you think we're going to get oust this? I said, "Of course." Our men were well trained, 68 National Servicemen, they were fit, had a very good spirit and when the faeces hit the and they rose to the occasion and sadly 17 of them were killed but the rest of us who survived really did what they had to and unfortunately, the role of soldiers is to kill the enemy, very sad.Harry, after that tore rid battle, you've had to fight a much longer battle, a battle that's lasted decades Governments fighting a battle for your men to receive proper recognition for that day. Tell us about that ongoing battle and has the battle been won? Yes, and no. We had some wins. The Government, the ALP government in fact when it came government in in approved a Vietnamese award which we'd been offered but the bureaucracy denied it on the basis that there was no proof of offer or the government didn't exist any more. Don't tell the soldiers that. They were given dolls in 1966 instead of the medals that were in the paper. Then we had a which
review convened by John Howard which was very nice of him but unfortunately the review only upgraded three officers, myself, and my two platoon commanders. They did not new Government was good in that they convened another review in 2009 but unfortunately that went off the rails and we finished up getting a unit citation for everybody which is all very well in essence it matches the Vietnamese vietation, but it doesn't justify and doesn't abrogate the individual recommendations that the soldiers were given in terms of a mentioned in dispatch or a military medal or whatever. We're not talking about a lot. We're talking about two medals and eight mentioned in despatches.Harry, as you continue to fight for your boys just as you took care of them and led them on that day 47 years ago, how are your men faring these days overall? I'm sorry, I missed that Scott? How are your men from that you took care of that you led on that day, I know you stay in touch with a lot of them, how are they faring? Oh in the main, they're pretty good. Most of the National Servicemen are still only 67 or 68. Maybe a little bit more robust around the midriff than they were in 1966. I just turned 80. I'm still the same weight I was in 1966, except my chest has slipped a little bit.Air wish
you're looking terrific. I wish you well. You have a nation honouring you and your mentored as we do every August 1966. May the government honour you as well. Thanks for your time.Thank you very much, Scott.It is a condition which continues to baffle science, why do some people with serious mental disabilities exhibit one or two extraordinary capabilities.Savant syndrome is most commonly found with people in autism who may be brilliant at maths or gifted musician, for example. As Dr Karl explains to Andrew Geoghegan, an Australian researcher is working to unlock is
the savant in all of us. It is a strange thing. There are three categories. There's the splinter savant who has wonderful skill but not that great but compared to the rest of their disability, they might have an IQ of 40 to 50 and then suddenly they can play the piano beautifully. They've got one splinter. You've got the savant who the the talent the one, disabled in many other ways, they can't talk to you normally, don't have the normal emotional skills, they have skills way above that of even average peopleLets go back to the beginning and how it transpires. Is this all to do with is the central nervous system, damaged or the fact they were born with a problem central nervous system.Yes it is to do with something like here. The Sid yacht self vant, you mentioned before, they can't work out anything but play the piano really well. You've got two different types, either they've had it from birth or had it as a result of a injury. Idiot is of vant. There was one kid who was born blind and had all sorts of other developmental problems, Learned
Copt walk until he was 15. Learned to walk at the age of the
15. Blind all that time. At the age of 16 heard a piano concert tow on TV once and then could play it back when he went to a piano. He sat at the piano blind and worked out how the piano went and do that and to turn it from hearing it was just amazing.Was that purely mimicking one. All savants have prejudiceIt is completely useless, they're very good at trivia, aren't they.Yes.The highest spectrum, as you say, they can pick up a musical instrument and play it as an accomplished talents fall into five ranges, music, malths,Which are they.Yes.Music
related, aren't they.Yes.Music is based on maths, isn't it. True. They have different skills. They are related and arts, there's one guy who can have a glimpse of one guy who of any animal you like, give him some clay, there it is. The arts. Particularly useless and mechanical, what day of the week was 1 August 2001. I've got no idea. They'll tell you stray away. Mechanical, here are all the parts for a 15-speed racing bike. Easy. They are the guys you want for putting your Ikea bits together.Does this show us the way our brains are wired, that we all have this ability but we've got to unlock it somehow.Yes. Based on acquired is of vant syndrome from some 40 to 60 people. There are 40 to 60 people on the planet who had no real skill before a head injury and after the head injury had an amazing skill. For example, being able to play the piano is one of those things. It seems to be philosophically, can't see the forest for the trees. You and I we look at a forest and think, that's a forest, and it's growing, it's got a life cycle. They can say there's a little bigotry and little tree, that one had an animal crawling into TThere are researchers trying to work out how this comes about and whether they can replicate it in a sense. There's one doctor who is actually radiating people's brainsYes, Alan Schneider, University of Sydney. He hits your brain with magnetic fields. It is a bit like the old ECT in that disrupts normal brain function. What's happening your left brain is inhibiting your right brain. It is filtering this sort of stuff. You're not worrying about I have a Goldfinger on this finger, you are area interested in the message I'm giving. You knockout one aspect of the brain.It is about clarity. Getting rid of all the stuff that doesn't matter.It might. For example if you knock out this part of their brain with a magnetic field, on one hand you can't work out to catch a bus from here to there. You can't do it. Suddenly you can solve a problem like you've never been able to solve it or you can draw a horse. This lasts for about an hour after the magnetic field zapped part of or brain.One assumes it has long-term side-effects.It fade
as way. It doesn't seem you can have both. as way. can have both. Either you can
see the forest or see the trees. When you think about it, the brain it, the brain say wonderful thing. It is a major difference between us and the other animals. Our sense of smell sucks, I've got no decent clause, I can't run very fast, my teeth not like a for rill la but I've got the brain. It is wired to go for the forest rather than the trees.Do you think we'll be able to harness this eventually. Yes. I don't think it will be via a course sold on TV between 3 and 4 after in the morning before the religious programs. There will be a way in the future we can have both of the forest and the trees.Dr Karl, thank you very much. Thank you.The forest and the trees. Forest the trees. Sounds good. I think it's probably too good for me.I love those ads. I love them.We know what you're up to in the morning, don't we. To the Japanese, it is the perfect protein rich dish to restore flagging energy on a sweltering sum me day. Japan it seems is a addicted to eating eel. There are fears that the Japanese eel is on the catch
verge of extinction with the catch slumping 90% in recent years. Our North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy reports from Tokyo. Slimy yet succulent, unattractive, yet appetising. TRANSLATION: Eel is full of protein and it is good to eat during summer so we don't get weary from the heat.This northern summer there are fears that the Japanese eel is heading towards extinction. This veteran researcher was the first person in the world to eel eggs from the sea.The Japanese people are eating too much eel. This kind of act tud is attitude is wrong. We have to take responsible for the eel's survival disglflt unfortunately for the wild eel this is where most of them end this up in a restaurant this is where most of them end up in a restaurant kitchen. In
the past five years up in a the past five years the price of eel in the past of eel in Tokyo has doubled and there's a of eel in Tokyo has doubled there's a real fear here that eel could drop off the menu at restaurants like eel could drop off restaurants like this
altogether in restaurants like this altogether in the years to
come.
come. Which is a real worry for a nation that gobbles up 70% of the global eel catch. Even famous eel chefs cheer that Japan's appetite for eel is threatening the species' future. He relies on farmed eel.TRANSLATION: I think it's been over fished. The catch has dropped by 90% in the last decade. It's hard breaking for me.Japan has now designated the eel as a species at risk of extinction. This listing is non-binding meaning eel will continue to appear on menus and plates across Japan.Mark Willacy, ABC News, Tokyo.Let's stick with the theme of something that's utterly un palatable, our loss last night to the All Blacks and we'll talk to Amy Hetzel about that.Yes, that's right, Scott. Last night saw the Wallabies' era under Ewan McKenzie begin with a 18 point loss to the All Blacks. Joining me now to break down the performances of both sides is rugby analyst and editor. Not the way Ewan wanted to start. What do you make of the Wallabies' performance last night.It wasn't a great start. There were some elements we liked. The thing the tries the All Blacks scored, most of them overturnovers. If we didn't give them the free ball the All pressure and
Blacks can't score we build pressure and win the game. That would have been the plan for the Wallabies. We know how to beat the All Blacks, you don't kick it in space and yet every team does it and they do you in the end. That's what happened last night. It is not by a long shot. I do think we can hit back. I don't know if a week is enough time.We saw elements we liked. What? What did you see that so many dpbt didn't? I liked the fact we built herb pressure in periods. We were well into the game a couple of minute into the second half. Just needed a bit of luck to go tour way. It didn't happen. When we turned over the ball that was the end of them. They've got cherished veteran in the team. Ritchie Macaw came to the fore, all the Smiths carved up. Too much class. A legacy of the deans era.It is a relatively inexperienced side comparing the two teams. Is this something Ewan McKenzie is looking to integrate into the team.Ewan McKenzie has always been about the culture changing coach and he has a done that in many teams. What he needs to do ensure that they don't drop their bundle and they need to is the
pick up their defence. This is the one thing the Wallabies don't have. They don't really have a proper high-class defensive coach. Robbie Deans did it all. That was a big that and make sure they get to problem. They need to work on that and make sure they a 10 situation with a fly-half, a 10 situation with whether it is Quade Cooper a 10 situation with a Matt Toomua, whether it is Quade Matt Toomua, get the Number 10 in place and let him stick. James O'Connor out wide is best. His defence last night was terrible. Bad read on that occasion put the pressure on the Australian at the start. It the Australian at the start. It was disappointing in that regard in terms of keeping the pressure on. Here is turn over. It happened all night. Mistakes. Really punished by the New Zealanders. They will punish you every time.I'll take us on a slightly different tangent. We had an article yesterday written by Andrew Webber who was looking at what might be considered a generational attitude problem, issues happening off-field that then affect performance onfield. Do you think that's something that continues to play into what's happening out there when we're facing a team like the All Blacks.I saw Andrew web area's article. It was very good. It is true Quade Cooper, James O'Connor and Kurtley Beale were never brought to heel. There was a famous matter when James O'Connor missed the World Cup announcement in 20 1. 1. It turns out he was. Never with
disciplined, let to get away with it.Do you agree with what Andrew wrote. He said quoting from his article, it is a stench of a generation play; Gen Y, who have forgotten about the history and significance of the jumper they wear. Does that stench exist if that is the case, why on earth are they've allowed to put the jersey on in the first place.That's a good question. The CEO need to back the coach who then is able to instill the discipline. When the players are so great, they've got great X Factor, they know when it comes to the crux of the matter, that they'll sack the coach before the player. They can get It really needs strong leadership at the top. Let's hope Bill with it.
Ewan McKenzie won't stand on with it. He gets on well can Gen Y.Play Gen Y.The All Blacks have had many dramas, but they knock it on the head very early. Discipline them the players bring them pack in the fold. They've got strong leadership in senior players. Dean Dean got rid of it. We suffer the con consequences of wiping our senior players. At the brought them back in desperation. Things have to Grange under Macbecome. He's a good coach. He get the job done with the players he needs to get the job done with. We'll hit back. Don't know when though.Thank you so much. Amy thank you as well. Always a pleasure.It is Gen Y's fault. Air watching 'Weekend Breakfast' on ABC News 24. We'll be back shortly and we'll also be looking at the Labor Party's plan to penalise parents who don't immunise their kids. Reaction to this plus all the day's politics. Stay with us now for Insiders. You're watching ABC News 24.

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This Program is Captioned Live.The top Tories interest ABC News. The Opposition leader Tony Abbott will today unveil the coalition a paid parental leave scheme which he says will come at no additional cost to the budget. New mothers earning up to $150,000 would be given their full Tsar r salary for six months. The coalition says the policy would start mid 2015 if it is elected and cost $5.5 billion annually. The PM is sell the to announce a toughening of the ruse around immunise nation. Any parent who wants to receive the Family Tax Benefit Part A could soon be forced to fully immunise their child. The Government says it will no longer allow conscientious objectors in a move it hopes will reduce instances of diseases such as whooping cough. Egypt's interim PM says he supports making the Muslim Brotherhood an illegal organisation. This follows another day of conflict during which a mosque filled with pro Mursi supporters was storm by security forces. And Wallabies' coach Ewan McKenzie Manchester panic after a big loss in Manchester panic loss in the opening Bledisloe Cup rugby test in Sydney. New Zealand Cup rugby test Zealand beat the Wallabies 47 points to 29. Stay with us now for "Insiders"with Barrie Cassidy. Captions by CSI Australia

This Program is Captioned Live. Good morning, welcome to Insiders. Week 2 of the federal election campaign started with a debate that failed to excite and then ran off the rails with gaffes and various distractions. The policy announcements such as they were barely survived the day and so for a second week there was a sense of virtually marking time, still waiting for the real campaign to start. But in the meantime enjoy the preliminaries.Now to the federal election. ready to rock up and roll up here folks.Even the less than great debate can generate controversy.If you want a new way you've got to choose a new government.You practiced that in the mirror, didn't you?I'm not going to let you in on my trade secrets sknrsmt and Kevin Rudd is underfire if for breaking the rules of the events by using notes.I'm using notes also today the you take due consistent to that consistent with my normal practice of using notes. And not the need for Tony Abbott was the need to have cheat sheets like this so he could get through the debate.The problem with the PM last night was not that he was reading from notes.If someone had said to me that it was not proper to take notes along to a debate then sure, that's fine.More that the notes weren't worth reading. That was the problem.I was in receipt of no such advice.Tony Abbott refused to denounce his opopt as a cheat but some note might have saved him from this clanger.No-one how smart, how well educated, how experienced is the Su poztry of all wisdom.No cheat seats in sight.

Tony Abbott's election
campaign may have hit a snag.This is a really superior class of sausage.After describing a Liberal candidate as having sex appeal.They're young, they're feisty, and I think I can probably say a bit of sex appeal.Why was she born so beautiful.It's not over until the fat lady sings. I apologise for that faux pas. Alright, you want the truth.She's a smart, savvy, hard-working candidate.Right-wing chicks are hot.Don't.I was a bit exuberant today.Much hotter than left wing chick.I'm really proud to be associated to her.Tony says to me often I'm a would describe me as having sex I'm a sexy guy.I wish appeal but they don't. would describe me as having appeal but they don't.We
didn't appeal but they don't. didn't make Tony say it.As the
kid kid suggested to me I had a dad moment. Daggy dad moment.What tributes does moment. Daggy dad tributes does the Liberal
running for moment. Daggy dad moment.What
tributes running for Greenway have.Do running you want to redeem yourself and run through the you want to redeem run through the 6 points, Mr Diaz.What about direction action, Mr Diaz?

(Sings) # I kissed a girl and I liked it hash hsh the taste of her cherry chap stick #For the second day in a row Tony Abbott's mouth has got him in trouble, this time on gay marriage.I'm not someone who wants to see radical change based on the fashion of the moment.Most Australians would agree equality isn't a fashion item. (Sings) # It felt so wrong # It felt so right #I had a lovely chat to Katy Perry. On that subject good people can disagree.I love you as a human being but I can't give you my vote.At the end of the day I don't think the election will be decided by it.I can say if this election is lost I'll car y the can, no doubt about that, I'll carry the can.And our program guest this morning is the Shadow Minister for Immigration Scott Morrison who will join us in the studio but first the Sunday papers and the Coalition's big pitch begins on parental leave scheme today and no backing away from the generosity.No backing away. This is a reannouncement, of course, because this policy has been on the table for 3 and a bait years now but Tony Abbott has told the News Limited morning papers that every working mum is going to be better off under our policy. It proves that the Coalition gets it when it comes to the reality of the contemporary woman and the contemporary family. So it's 6 months pay up to $150,000. So essentially half pay for someone earning up to $150,000 and they will be paying their super as well so that announcement today. is how
Obviously what we want to know is how the thing adds up and that levy will sort of still be sitting in the things.We've got the starting
date now but it's 2 things.We've got date now but it's 2 years date off.It's July 1,2015. There's a number of scenarios involving the Senate on carbon tax and the like but on paid parental leave I think the Greens will give it a tick.How they pay for it, of course, largely because the bigger businesses will pay for it but then there's a government component as well.Yes, I mean they've got an opportunity here to message on the broader issue of spending cuts and, you know, you just don't want to be using just a levy to pay for this thing.Now Andrew Catsaras is tracking the polls throw the campaign and this is what they say this week. The ALP is on 36.3% primary vote:

There's been polling in a swag of marginal seats and the ALP is ahead in none of the Coalition seats polled. Have a look at these

There was even more bad news for the Labor Party in the 'Financial Review' poll conducted yesterday in marginal seats and under the headline Abbott on the brink of victory they looked at 4 Labor-held seats and 4 Coalition seats. Wherever you go there's some remarkable figures:

The field would have to fall over for Bradbury to come through.George, you have to go back to '93, I guess, to find a time when a party was behind -And came back to win.But Paul Keating was determined.This is an interesting question for the psychology of this election campaign. Kevin Rudd looks like he's sulking. I can't put it any more abruptly than that. He's not enjoying the campaign, he runs around pretending he's enjoying it but his body he's not going to language tells you he he's not going to win and I
covered obviously he's not going to covered obviously the '93 election campaign covered election campaign and Paul
Keating kept covered obviously the '93 election campaign Keating kept telling people no,
we're going to election campaign and Paul Keating we're going to have a crack and
of Keating kept telling people no, we're going of course by the end of the
second week we're going to have a crack and of second week they second week they were further behind than the headline polls behind suggest today.The problem with behind than the headline that analysis is suggest today.The problem focussing all the time that focussing all the time on the Labor focussing all Labor Party and Kevin Rudd. Perhaps Tony Abbott's doing very well.I'm answering the question Barrie asked me about how Kevin question Barrie asked how Kevin Rudd's shaping up to Keating. The only government that ever came back had a leader to believe. I'm telling you the PM today doesn't look like he thinks he's going to win.I take you point but you can't get figures like this unless there are two things happening.Tony Abbott's done very well. A lot of the Labor campaign has been driven by advice from people like Bruce Hawker who said Tony Abbott was unelectable influenced by people like David Marr who said Australia's never wanted Tony Abbott.I have never once said he's unelectable. I've always pointed out how unpopular he Australians
has been.You've said Australians don't want Tony Abbott. On these polls clearly they do if the polls are rightAt the time I wrote that was the case, Gerard, why start today with a misrepresentation of that kind?That is what you said at the start of your quarterly essays. It starts Australians don't Abbott.Last year that was true. It has changed.The
national polls still say that he's unpopular in the sense that he has a negative approval rating.Hee now the approved prime minister.Malcolm Fraser had one of the biggest victories ever in Australian history and he wasn't very popular at the time. Popularity doesn't matter much nor does approval matter. What matters whether people will vote for you.Do you find though with figures like that does it suck the enthusiasm out of a campaign, is it hard for a side that's behind think it is very hard and not p think it is very hard and many are able to do it but I agree with George that Kevin Rudd isn't polling well, isn't performing well but the converse of that is that Abbott is doing very well.OK, let's look at a couple of stories from overnight and they're relevant to our next guest Scott Morrison. The Indonesians, Gerard, are looking at driving people away from this hillside town where they tend to congregate and become easy prey to the people smugglers.There's a report today the Indonesians are talking about close to the Australian election, it would be, driving people out of this town in West Java to other parts of Java and to other parts of Indonesia. Because that's where they get together in order to get on boats that come to Australia. This could happen. I mean it's just a report that it's going to happen and it may be it will happen and if it does happen it would have some influence within Australia. But I don't think it would make a huge amount of difference one way or the other.They have to put a timing on it. They say a week before the election so there might be some impact.Asylum seekers in Indonesia it certainly would. I doubt it would have a political impact in Australia.And there's another story suggesting they might try and get around the latest policy by starting to fly people in on dodgy tourist visas.It's being reported in the Fairfax papers this morning that facing some consumer resistance the people smugglers are now suggesting that they can bodgey up papers for people and fly them in for a mere US $25,000. Their advice is then when you get to the Australian airport before you go to immigration you go into the lave dy lavetory and tear up your passport. I urge people not to pay this money, it will not work. If you could fly in on a bodgey visa or passport now people would do it. Flying is safe, the boats are incredibly dangerous. This is just a desperate bit of rubbish from criminal people smugglers. Interesting report.OK, that's the Sunday papers, now the Shadow Immigration Minister Scott Morrison is about to join us so while he does so here are some reaction to Friday's policy announcements further hardening the Coalition's approach to asylum seekers.There has been long-standing practice in this country of ensuring that asylum seekers are given due process under the ordinary protections of Australian law on what are often life or death matters. And any proposal like the current one to deny or downgrade due process risks violating rights and endangering people's lives and any attempt to try to block people accessing the courts is the type of proposal which may not, as history has shown, worked.If the only appeals mechanism available you've mechanism available because
you've apoll - Court, we end everything else is the High Court, we end up with a Court, we end up with a legal situation which I Court, we end up with situation which I think no-one would wish for which is where each and every appeal has one place and one place only to go to and that becomes a High Court.I think we can be quite frank here. Scott Morrison right now wants the boats to keep coming.Scott Morrison, good morning, welcome.Morning, Barrie.It's not the first time someone's made that allegation that you want to keep the boats that you want to keep the coming because you get some sort of political advantage out of it.When people run out of arguments and they resort to personal attacks. We'll stay focused on the policy.Let's talk about some of those overnight stories. If the Indonesians scatter these asylum seekers away from this central location in this highland town, do you think that would make a difference?I think it's a good thing to do. The coordinating minister, one of three that report into the President, has been picking up for some time some local unrest about the impact it's having in villages and places across Indonesia where asylum seekers are gathering and what I'd describe this as is some positive unilateral action from Indonesia and I think that's a good thing. I hope to see more of it and certainly if we are elected at this election then that's the sort of thing we'd be focussing on supporting them doing.And what about this idea of setting them a higher price but giving them a fake visa and ply - flying people in?I agree with the comments David Marr just made and I think that assessment, if people could coit now then I would be. We have very strong controls on who can get on planes and who can get into the country and that's why people get on boats and pay people smugglers many times over what they would pay to get on an airfare to come to Australia. So look, I don't think you take any of that lightly. I think you make sure that you're always ready to respond to what the smugglers might try and do and that's what our Operation Sovereign Borders plan is all about. It gives us the capacity to respond and adapt and change as times looking at something like this
now, doesn't that suggest the Government has broken the old business model and they're through - looking for a new one?I think you've predicted every success on the Government's every failure on this issue in the past. We'll see what happens with this one. If there's an announcement effect we'll see. If it's to do with the weather, with Ramadan, whether it's to do with the announcement whether announcement impact of this but what we saw yesterday is the PM what we saw of Papua New Guinea actually build a cap on what we've been saying for a month and that is the actual saying for a the actual arrangement between Papua New Guinea and Australia does not commit the Papua New Guinean Government to resettlement in Papua New Guinea for everyone who's sent there. It just simply doesn't. It never did and that's the problem with this claim that the PM's making. It's another overstatement. He just should say what it is. He doesn't have to hype everything up.But he said he made a phone call to Papua New Guinea Prime Minister yesterday and had it reaffirmed to him that that is the situation, that none will be re settled in Australia?Well look, that's not what it says in the arrangement. It's not what the Papua New Guinean PM said yesterday. He's said he's got a working limit of around 3,000 in terms of who will be offshore processed there. But look, we'll see how this all plays out, Barrie. We saw how it played out with the Malaysian people swap. We saw how it played out with the East Timor election nix, that was the election fix at the last election. We'll salvage what we can from this but there are real questions about the ability to settle people in Papua New Guinea. That's been said by people in Papua New Guinea including people like Dame Carol Kitu who is a well respected person there. We haven't seen any detail on the commitments.But having said that though, you are on the same page with the Government, aren't you n the sense that you would like a situation where no asylum seekers are processed in Australia that none will have the opportunity to resettle here?It is our policy that people who are processed offshore would wait offshore and seek resettlement in a country other than Australia. And frankly I think that's what the Government's PNG arrangement is. The suggestion that no-one will come back to Australia, the suggestion that