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On this One Plus One special, an interview with comedian and TV writer, Ruby Wax.

This Program is Captioned Live. Hello, I'm Jane Hutcheon, welcome to the program. Ruby Wax is a comedian who was brought up in the States in the 1950s. Her parents left Austria
because of 1950s. Her parents because of the Nazi because Ruby escaped from them by because of the Nazi threat and fleeing to England to Ruby escaped from them fleeing to England to study
acting fleeing to England acting and Shakespeare Company. acting and later join Shakespeare Company. She made a name for herself conducting celebrity interviews for also
British television. She was also a TV writer and script editor, most editor, most notably of the hit series, 'Absolutely Fabulous'. Behind the scenes, she suffered from bouts of depression and was eventually outed in a very public manner. To understand what was going on in her own mind, she studied psychotherapy and neuroscience and her studies have taught her that we can, to a great extent, rewire our thinking. It's the subject of the comedian's latest book, 'Sane New World'. Welcome to One Plus One.Thank you.You grew up in Illinois.Right.Your parents were Holocaust survivors.They left Austria. They didn't realise what they were running from. So I don't know if that makes them Holocaust survivors. They got out.Did you always know that as a child?No, I never knew. No idea.When did you find out?Just before my parents moved to Florida. I said to my mother and Bagel "Did I have any relatives in Austria?". She relatives in said "Yes, they all burned". I must have been 35. She never mentioned it before.What kind of an effect did that have on you when you found out?It was too late. I was a little shocked she never mentioned it before. When she died, I went into our attic, it was like the Anne Frank attic. I wasn't allowed up there when I was a suitcase
little kid. There was a suitcase and I opened it up and there were all these letters from Max, which is weird because that's my son's name, saying "Please help us, get us out". My mother said "We will get you the papers". She said "Thank you you, thank you". The next letter was "We can't get out".Who was Max?A relative of mine. My mother didn't say - fits
they were weird people so this fits right in.You said that you were constantly told that you were stupid, fat and undisciplined. Were the messages as bluntly delivered as that?My dad would say "Who's going to marry you, you're behind's as big a house". He said it more poetically. But that was his way of torture and discipline. They teach animals to not go in the house by putting their heads in it. It was a similar technique for child rearing.Was there violence as well?A little bit. It wasville end but probably all parents at that stage would smack their kids.As you were growing up, did you feel your life was desperately miserable?No, I thought everybody's life was like that. As a kid you assumed it that's normal. It was only when I got much older I realised it was peculiar.Is it right you studied psychology in California?Much later, 21 and then I went to Berkley, I studied psychology.Was that in a sense to unravel your childhood?We don't know. There were other people in my class who didn't have parent that were nuts. I don't know, probably figure out what I had come out of, that was my own Holocaust, at home.But you said you thought everyone had grown up like that, that you weren't special?How would you know? My parents would chase me down the street. Sometimes my mother in her night gown in the snow screaming like a banchee. It was only when my friends came over and said "This is the scariest thing I've ever seen". At the Royal shakes peer company my mother would come and the whole theatre group would wait with me. She came in with a broom, sweeping as she came in.What was the cleanliness thing?There was an instant where my dog swallowed a sock. It came out, my mother washed it and put it back in the drawer. I would say that's an extreme form of cleanliness.When did you know you wanted to act?Maybe in high school, but I was never in any of the plays. There were 2,000 people in my high At 2,000 people in my high school.
At one point during hello Dolly", there were only three people in the audience, I wasn't good at three people in wasn't good obviously had some sense of obviously had some sense desire. You were ambitious, if you like, because desire. You were you like, because you crossed you like, the pond and went to the UK?I think the pond and went to the think I crossed the pond for think I crossed the pond other reasons but I myself it was to become an actress.What were the other reasons?To get out of my house. I told everybody I was going to be an actress. I was interested in the combination of psychology and drama. It's funny that is how my life has ended up. I'm sure you could put those two together.A lot of people say that they were aware, in a sense, that they had been damaged and then they spend the rest of their lives trying to work out what went wrong and make sure they don't pass that on. Did you just simply escape or were you also trying to work out how you had fitted into this sort of strange family?I wasn't conscious of it but when I used to go - whenever I would visit my parents, I'm not name dropping because he was my friend 25 years ago, I would grow straight from the airport to Alan Rickman's housend do a half
monologue that lasted maybe a half an hour where I would purge. It was like a vomit of mental and the stories were unbelievable. Then I would eventually calm down and they would put me to bed on their sofa. That was the only time I remember actually having to get it out of my system. I think you go on with your life. But they were great material when I first did comedy. He said your mother's wild. I could do her. Every story he said "Put that in your show". She had a voice like this. In my early documentary was was really in it, crawling behind me, saying "Civilised people don't bring sand in a building" on all fours because she wanted to take a shower in another apartment before I came into my own.You had plenty of material.Yeah.Why did you are join the Royal Shakespeare?I came from a home where, you know, Shakespeare was the norm. I came from the Macbeth. I figured I was doing a sitcom the time I got into that. I knew the Royal Shakespeare company was high prestige. I was driven to a point to get in.You appeared in 'Girls on Top' with Tracey you will man, dawn French and Jennifer Saunders. At that time it was innovative for women to be funny, wasn't it?Yeah, the only other funny women I think were laughing at themselves because they were old or they were huge. So they had to be grotesque. I think we were maybe the first girls that were taking the piss out of ourselves and we weren't bad looking.Was it accepted by the audience to see four really funny women?When we were first writing it, we were in my house which was a tiny little bed sit. We never thought it was going to be seen by the public. It was our joke. It takes a long time to write this stuff. When we finally filmed it, we see that. It was accepted pretty quickly, really quickly.I guess was that liaison with Jennifer Saunders what took you into 'Absolutely Fabulous'?I could always write comedy. When I would make Jennifer laugh, I knew it was a good line. I found Joanna Lumley in a play where she was playing I am Melbourne today Marcos, I said that was the first beautiful woman beside Lucile balance except she was dead. I turned her into Patsy and I turned her into 'Ab Fab".You found her?Her career was totally in the toil he. I made her an old has been, she would act out some of her old, with her handshaking, falling over cars and I followed her home and a she was sniffing Ajax, living in squallor. We did it so realistic like so many people said how could I do that to Joanna Lumley, to break into her house and see how she lived. She made it look like it was the real thing.Again, that was breaking new ground.You don't think you are breaking new ground. You are making yourself laugh. I didn't think - I did whatever I thought was funny. They don't let you do that any more. They let me experiment on TV.When were first experiment on TV.When were you
first aware you suffered from depression?I had something wrong with me as a little kid but they didn't have a name for it. I it. I would go to bed for a few days at a time. It was like a waking hybernation. They thought I had glandular fever and different illnesses because I couldn't wake up, even though I was awake. I had all kinds of blood tests but nobody knew. My mother would just scream like a ban Che. In those days they called it a "Turn". They said she was having a change of life. I said yeah, for the last 87 years. Nobody knew what the name of this was.You are aware of it from when you were a teenager or younger?A teenager. Even in the RSE, I would have to check into a hotel and I would go into a kind of sleep, wake, sleep.At the time, like at the ROC, how did you control it? Did you hibernate at those times?I would go away. I didn't miss any work. It would be once every few years. I would lie in a room and it was like a coma but you were awake.What about medication.They didn't know what it was. You what it is.When were you or have you ever been diagnosed?Yeah, when I had my diagnosed?Yeah, when I child, my third child, a doctor said you have got clinical depression. I was so happy.When you had your third child, it was in the '90s.Yeah.You were diagnosed with clinical key depression. Did you come out and say anything at the time?I wouldn't say anything publicly. I was outed by comic relief by accident. They said can they take a picture of me because they were giving money to mental health. I thought it was going to be a small picture but there was a joint poster saying this woman has mental illness, can you help her.Comic relief, is that a charity?They send money to Africa. But they started giving money to charities in London. They were doing a mental health campaign. I thought it would be in the back of some book, tiny. Because the main thing is Africa. There were bigger celebrities than I was. I didn't expect my picture to be up there.What did it feel like to see yourself...I was mortified. I looked like a pathetic immigrant. I threw myself in front of the picture but then there was another one. They were all over the place. Then I wrote a show to make that look like it was my publicity poster. Otherwise - with why would you tell anybody. You would be fired in a second.I read some interviews that were done with you probably in the '90s, the late '90s were you were described perhaps as being manic and skittish.I don't have manic depression. So I just have clinical, the vanilla. But I probably was trying to cover something up so I became - I think I was a desperate creature. I can't really remember. People say I'm really different now. I assume they mean better. But I was manic - not manic as far as a high. When you have bipolar you go nuts and start shopping. I didn't have any of that. I wanted to be - at dinner parties I heard I did a lot of monologues but that was probably because I was drinking.I read too that after the birth of your daughter, you were institutionalised. Many people think of that as being someone with a straight jacket...That means they put in - they watch you and immediate Kate you. It was the happiest time of my life. I can honestly say I love being institutionalised. Not in the beginning because you are out of it. After a few days and you wake up, you start to so people who have the same probably the greatest moment in your who have the same thing. That's your life. Before that I probably the greatest moment thought it was your life. Before that thought it was my imagination. Because there is such a stigma. Then you see Then you see people with the same dead sharp look in their eyes.What is the dead sharp look.You are dead. People say does it help being a comedian. Does cancer help you being a weather person? What sort of a question is that. When you see somebody else like that, you can talk for hours about how awful you are. People who don't get this illness get board or abandon you. It's such a relief.You said when you were ill you got phone calls telling you to perk up.Perk up, like I never thought of that. When I did my show, Jennifer Saunders raised her hand and said I think you should perk up.There is a view of depression, means being down in the dumps. That's not really it at all.It's not situation appropriate. It has nothing to do with being sad. That's called melancholy. And mourning. This isn't human, this is something else.When you had instances of depression, I read that you would bring out a kind of to-do list whether it was striped blue and white cushions or finding the right lamp. It was actually the best description of depression I've ever read because I didn't understand what depression was. Can you tell me a bit about the to-do list?Depression isn't the to-do list but when that you have lost your whole personality and you are kind of a block of personality and a block of cement, you try to proceed tend you are a block of cement, you proceed tend you are still human. You start to do more and more human. You more to show that human. You start to do more more to show that you are perfectly fine, even to yourself. So the to-do list is to keep yourself from not thinking about how awful it is. Because if you stop, you realise you are in hell. I say if the devil had tourettes that's what it would look like. While I was writing the book I had an incident so I had to find the right blue and white cushion to the point where I was calling Mexico and Canada to get the right stripes. But that was passing. I did get the blue and white cushions, you will be happy to know.The right ones.87 of them. You can't go in my house pillows.At one stage you were doing an online TV show called 'Ruby's Room'.It was online, yeah.You were being driven back...Every week I would have a different pathology, a person with schizophrenia or ADHD. They would ring my door well, I would invite them in and make them tea. While I was making them tea I would interview them about their particular disorder. At the end, you would give what the symptoms are, how to deal with the symptoms and so it was a show explaining what these different - I made a lot of friends. But at one point I had real depression and I was in an institution. One of my guests had depression but I didn't want anybody to know I had depression. My husband picked me up from the institution. Everybody there said "Are you nuts?" That's a great question to ask. So I went home, I put on some make-up. I looked like a depressed person. My hair was kind of sideways. And I interviewed them about depression like this, with the dead eyes. They looked at me like "I think you're sicker than I am". When the interview was over, my husband picked me up and took me back to the institution because I couldn't get caught.Did anybody know?How cow tell. The depressed person could tell because we can see it in each other. Everybody else didn't know.When did you want to become a councillor and when did you start to study neuroscience?Those are two different things.You got the counselling degree first, was it?I got the psychotherapy degree. I had to do 200 hours of working with clients. But I knew I of working with clients. But knew I was more interested in the real thing. Then knew I was more the real thing. Then I the real thing. Then I crashed a course at university, city London which was filled with 21-year-olds. I told them I had a disease to make me look, that I looked really old and then they figured out I really old. They were foreigners. They didn't know. That ended because they went off to Yale and I wasn't really on the course. But then I was interested in mindfulness. I don't know how I got to that. I did a lot of research. The research showed that Cognis iff therapy and this thing called mindfulness had really great results as seen in a brain scanner, for people that had more than three episodes. They prevented the less relapse. So I thought OK, I'm going to go for mindfulness. Then I found the man who was the father, who discovered MBCT, mindfulness based cognitive therapy. I said how do you study more. He said unfortunately you have to get into Oxford. That was my next mission.And you did.And I did.Was it the sense to give manage
you the building blocks to manage yourself?I was also interested in neuroscience. I said I want to know about neuroscience.After doing the course, after spending...Two years, yeah.What did you conclude?That there is this thing for real, it's not something that where you wave a crystal. There is something called neuroplacticity which means you can change the way you think at age. The brain is very malleable. We don't know what culture we are going to be born in. It will constantly adapt. If you really work on something, you are a little bit limited by your genes but if you really start to break your old habits, the genes change. What you pass to the next generation could be manufactured by you in your lifetime.You can learn certain behaviours like dots doltsYou can break your habits. You have to do it intentionally and you have to do it constantly. Because it's like doing a sit-up, you can't just do one sit-up and you have got a six pack. You have to do it continuously. But in a certain way. Cognitive therapy works that level way. Cognitive therapy works on
that level but so does mindfulness.What particular habits have you broken using this technique?Look, you don't change completely.Of course.Your personality isn't gone overnight. But the whole mindfulness thing is you become intentionally aware in the moment. What has changed? I can tell, as far as depression, the early pitter patter of the on coming thing before I'm hit by the full tsunami. I can feel the little signs and I can do something about it because there is a gap between awareness and instant trigger finger reactions. So in that gap you can do some things so that you don't always respond in the same way.How often do you get episodes of depression now?I had a little bit during the writing of the book but again, I knew, I shut down everything. I went to some retreat that cost £29 rather than an institution that cost a fortune, and I lay down with the lights off instead of making a thousand plans because I knew I was heading towards illness so I could ward it off. This mindfulness isn't just for depression, it's for all of us who are anxious, that have nagging voices that keep you up at night, the insistence on being busy. This is human. That's not depression. And so it helps you deal with that. Now you will always be that but you can kind of go under the radar. So sometimes you have the choice to go well I don't want to be like this. It's still buzzing away to say keep doing it, keep doing it, you are not doing it right but you have the choice to be more in the moment rather than always

Do you feel happy in the place that you are, you are still performing, doing the leadership training, you are doing writing. Is this a good space to be in?I'm writing about what I'm really interested in. Everybody wants to know how your brain works. Because I can spin it with humour, it becomes a whole new media.At least half a million people watched your Ted talk, I saw. Do you feel that something lasting that those people are going to get, obviously they have got to go and do the research themselves and actually do mindfulness, I suppose.Mindfulness comes at the end. That's something that works for me. There is a lot of choices on what you have to do. It's learning to first of all, the machinery upstairs how it works and then learning what attention really means. Attention helps you focus. If I want to step on in and go into fourth gear, again, none of this stuff is to turn you into a vegetable. If I really want to speed and work 48 hours, I can. But I choose to do that rather than doing it out of habit, until I burn out.You sound like someone who has always wanted a career and to work really hard but you have had three marriages but the last marriage has other two last marriage has been...The
other two were to get me work permits. They were not permits. They were not like Liz permits. They were not like Taylor - I first guy I don't know. The second guy I got a know. The second guy I got work permit to work in America.You have had one real marriage which has lasted a long time.Yeah.Three children.Yeah.How much are they Ann correspond in your life as opposed to the successful career?Everybody would say it, it's a cliche, kids bring you back to normality and nothing matters but them this is hormone al and biological. It happens with everybody, unless you are insane. I'm more excited about their lives than I am mine. But one thing that's funny, everybody fears empty nesting. I went to university before they did so ha, ha, ha.You de camped.I de camped.You say you have been haunted by the thought of how old you are and how many years you have left. Does that still haunt you?It's a fact. Yeah, but then again, I wouldn't know what I know now. I would never have known, I would never have gone to Oxford earlier and I wouldn't know that - it does matter, you know. Ultimately, really, nobody's going to remember her performance that night. So it gives you a coolness that I never had before. Everything else was life and death. Now, really, you know, it won't kill me. Of course if people don't buy the book, I may be institutionalised again. You are not perfect. This is a work in progress.But what really matters?My kids. My kids. That's it.Ruby Wax, it's been a great pleasure. Thank you for speaking with One Plus One.Thanks you.Ruby Wax. You
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