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story today, the major parties 24. I'm Kim Landers. Our top story rule out deals with story today, the major crossbenchers after the election in a bid to avoid
another minority Government. election in a bid This is my Captain's This is my Captain's call - This is my Captain's will not This is my Captain's call will not - I will not lead a minority Government. We won't minority Government. We be having any negotiated agreements, we won't have any deals with any independent or minor party.We'll also take a look at Tony Abbott's gaffes - first a female candidate's sex appeal and now it is likening gay marriage to the fashion of the moment. This Program is Captioned Live.

Also this afternoon, Essendon and its officials vow to fight AFL charges over the team's supplements program.An independent report finds no major bullying problems in the CSIRO, despite widespread Lions
complaints.And the Brisbane Lions left in shock by the sudden axing of coach Michael Voss. The PM and the Opposition Leader have now both promised that they won't try to strike a deal with independents or minor parties to form Government. And Tony Abbott has gone a step further saying he ordered the Liberal Party to put the Greens below Labor on how to vote cards in every seat. Mr Abbott has been campaigning in Brisbane, but he's spent a loft time trying to explain some Goughs, like his reference to a female candidate's sex appeal and why he's called gay marriage the fashion of the moment. Kevin Rudd has been in Cairns, pledging to roll-out the next stage of Labor's multi million dollar trades training program and is now at Brisbane's Ekka. Let's take a look at the days so far. I'm absolutely hopeless at this stuff. Both year 12s?Yes.It looks grade. So they go from year...8 to 12. they That's great. they go from year...8 to 12.
That's great. Whaus your name? Good to see you. How are you, guys. ?We are going to let the PM through now, thank you very much.

Can I have a photo?Thank you very much. The If you're going to have a PNG plan, you have to have a tors island plan too. I love netball. I used to play on Saturdays. It's a fantastic sport. Go netball, that's right.Fellows, bring the media off the court so the girls can do their thing. I spent quite a few years on the sidelines of the netball court watching my daughters play. It's a great sport, isn't it. Looks like she hasn't lost the skill. She's not quite dressed for the part. But nevertheless, she's a got player.To discuss why the major parties are ruling out doing deal s with the Greens and others, I'm joined by Canberra.
political reporter Nick Dole in Canberra. Nick, is this much of a surprise, particularly from the Coalition?No, not really, no. Tony Abbott, throughout this last term of Government, has made it clear that he doesn't support the idea of minority Government, particularly between Labor and the Greens. He says it's been a dismal failure, so it would be a pretty dramatic turnaround if he said he wanted to achieve that himself. He has made it clear he wants to achieve Government in his own right, essentially the other thing announcement is that he'd be putting the Greens last on how to vote cards. So that's not binding for voters, but certainly in the house of represents, if they followed the preferences recommended by the Coalition - House of Representatives - voters would be putting Greens last in those seats. That would essentially give Labor some advantages in some seats where they are under threat from the Greens, in seats like Melbourne, where Adam Bandt, the Greens member is the current sitting member and also like inner Western Sydney, currently held by Labor, Anthony Albanese, but also faces a pretty strong challenge from the Greens. Now, that was Tony Abbott's part. Kevin Rudd about Tony Abbott's deal and he
said when part. Kevin Rudd was asked
about Tony Abbott's said when it comes to
preferences that's about Tony Abbott's deal and he said when matter for preferences that's not really a
matter for him. the organisational structure of matter for him. He said that's the party that would deal the organisational structure that. But he also said he wouldn't be that.
the party that would deal with that. But out doing
with the Greens - so he's ruled out doing any deals, as such. He has left the door open for minority Government, though, essentially what we saw in the essentially what last Government, of course, Kim, was that the Labor Party actually did sign written agreements with the Greens agreements with the Greens and Kevin
with some independents. So Kevin Rudd's ruled that out. But not entirely ruled out minority Government. Let's have a little listen to all of Kevin
the stakeholders - Tony Abbott, Kevin Rudd and then the Greens leader, Christine Milne. This is my Captain's call and I say to Mr Rudd, be man enough to do the same. The last thing that you, the people, want is another hung Parliament and another minority Government. All preference matters are handled by the national secretary of our party, and I'm not aware of what agreements have been reached. Frankly, I intend to leave it all to them. Let me also be very plain about this - we will into any Coalition agreements,
we won't be having any negotiated agreements, we won't have any deals. They have moved so far together and so far to the right I'm not in the least bit surprised that you've got this kind of collusion going on between the Liberal and Labor Parties to do in the Greens.Now, while Tony Abbott today,
is campaigning in Queensland today, Nick, he's still trying to hose down his comments over a candidate's sex appeal?Yes, they are continuing to dog him somewhat. As you say, he's up in Queensland today, he spent the morning in Brisbane and this afternoon he's been in the seat of longman, the marginal seat. He met the local member, Wyatt Roy. A number of questions have been concerning the commentses he made about a Sydney candidate, Fiona Scott, he said she had sex appeal. He dealt with this Lasker night. He said they are great mates exuberant.
and perhaps he was a bit exuberant. He was asked again about it today. Let's hear his response and then the response from the PM.

As the kids suggested to knee, I had a dad moment. - suggested to me, I had a tacky dad moment, maybe, yeah. If any male employer stood up in a workplace anywhere in Australia and pointing to a female staff member said this person is a good staff member because they have sex appeal, I think people would scratch their heads, at least, and I think the employer would be finding themselves in serious strife.Now, Nick Dole, daggy dad moments aside for Tony Abbott, the Government has leapt on some other comments from the Opposition Leader - this time on gay marriage?Yes, he was doing an interview with John Laws on 2SM and talking about the moves towards gay marriage in the community and within the Parliament. Of course, this has been more of aan issue during this campaign than perhaps some expected, because Kevin Rudd really put it on the table more recently. Tony Abbott has, of course, left the door open for a conscience vote potentially in the next term of Parliament. We will hear a little - some of his comments later on. First let's go to Tony Burke, the Immigration Minister, he's speaking in Sydney. We'll have another inspection include
of progress on Manus Island, include a meeting with the Governor of Manus Island. First of all, another plane load landed this morning at Manus Island, of 40 people. Yesterday, while I was there, 39 people landed for processing and ultimately if they have successful claims for settlement in Papua New Guinea. The 39 who arrived yesterday landed shortly after me. We did pass each other on the road at one point. But that operation took place yesterday - another 40 this morning. The prime purpose, I wanted to check how progress was going on capacity. The vast majority of staff have now moved on and are living on board the naval vessel there. A smaller number of remaining living on site. The progress continues from the contractor Red Sea in removing - they have now removed what was the old single adult male compound, which was tents, and they are in the progress of turning that into a permanent site. They are still working on the basis that in the month of October the permanent accommodation there will be ready to go. Most of my time in terms of inspecting progress was at what used to be the soccer field, and has been worked on by To will, l for - Toll for creating a new site which will worked on by To will, l for -
Toll which will be able to take in the order Toll for creating a new site the order of 300 which will be able to take the order of 300 people. The large marquees for accommodation have now large accommodation have completed accommodation have now been
completed there - sorry, 300 completed there - sorry, 300 to 400 people. The 400 themselves, very large marquees 400 people. The marquees themselves, very large with a which, in total, take with a division down the middle, so it's 40 on each side for each of the accommodation for each of the marquees. The accommodation marquees for that compound are already up, the walls have been put in place there. There is still more work being done in completing what will be the area for eating and a recreational area as well. Toll had in the first instance intended to have all of that work complete by today. The site manager advised me that he believed it would take them through to Friday of this week before that was ready for people to move in. That's certainly, with the current pace of plane arrivals on to Manus Island, means, as I had predicted, there is absolutely no problem with capacity continuing to increase and capacity being able to well and truly out-strip whatever arrivals people smugglers might decide to try to test our resolve with. Some people, me included, are have raised questions about nt waing to make sure there was still a recreational option for people while their processing takes place. The Navy had previously offered for their sporting oval to be occasionally used by processing.
people who are there for processing. On Friday of last week for the first time, it was used for that purpose. So, while the main soccer field has now been taken over for accommodation, it's now the case that there is an additional place where recreation has been made possible. I also went and had a look at the east site. There has been publicity
in Australia about whether that site is in Australia about whether site is immediately adjacent to a school. I inspected site is immediately a school. I inspected it
personally. It is not immediately adjacent to a school. There is a school a distance school. There is distance away, quite a number of houses in between, and the site itself requires a large amount of clearing before the site will be ready to go. But it's a large area, quite some hectares - I don't have the precise number, I have heard a range - but the claims that have been made that it is immediately adjacent to up when I inspected it myself. There's also been a bit of publicity about the issue of waste disposal on Manus Island. There's work that I'd asked to be carried out, which has now been completed, which has involved the covering of the waste which had previously been exposed. It's in a better state than it was. I had a meeting, as I said, with Governor Benjamin, the Governor of Manus Island, and one of the two members of Parliament Manus Island. He - Manus Island. He indicated to me that he wanted us to consider other sites for waste dispose al and I have asked the department to investigate that as well. I had the opportunity for the first time to have very detailed conversations face-to-face with people who are there for processing. I did not allow the department or anyone to select in advance who it would be. I simply turned up in the cafeteria area and sat down during breakfast and had conversations with two separate groups of people who are transferees being processed there on Manus Island. In each case, the two groups I sat with by chance were Iranians. The first group were people who had not decided whether or not they wanted - were going to go home. At least one of them was actually already at sea at the time that the announcement had been made. So he had no line of sight whatsoever prior to arriving on Christmas Island about the new policy. He indicated to me directly that had he known about the policy he would not have boarded the vessel. Now that he is here, he's still trying to work out a bit more about Papua New Guinea before he makes a decision as to whether he would rather go home. The second group of people I spoke to, it was explained to me that they were already in conversations with the international organisation of migration and had decided to go home. Across all the people I spoke to, across the two groups, in every instance when I asked, the response was this they were in touch with family and friends in Australia. Some had direct relatives, be it brothers or sisters who were already living in Australia, some had more distant relatives but in every instance, people were in contact with Australians. I'll be up front - the conversations were not easy, as you would expect they weren't easy. But I thought it was important that, given the role I have in the policy, I sit directly in front of the them
individuals concerned, look them in the eye and explain what the new policy means. I explained to them that if they were found to have a valid claim, then the settlement options for them would be in Papua New Guinea, but not within Australia. When some people put to me that they believed that was unfair, I explained the issues with the drownings that we've had in the Indian ocean, I explained the rationale for the policy, but also made absolutely clear that, under no circumstances, was the policy going to change. And whether they had a valid claim or not would be claim, then their settlement options would not be within Australia. Over the last few day, while I have been away, there has been some debate here in Australia, which I have missed a fair bit of, but I have had some reports, of claims that somehow sthrs a difference - - there is a different situation in the Torres Strait as a result of this policy. That's true. The situation used to be if you came across the Torres Strait, and were processed, then if you and had a valid claim you and were processed, then if ultimately be had a valid claim Australia. As a result of the new ultimately be settled in
Australia. As a result of the new policy, that is no longer true. The change from this policy true. policy means that if someone true. The change from comes across comes then their comes across the Torres then their settlement options do not involve Australia. then their settlement policies that we do not involve policies that we have
announced, regardless do not involve Australia. The
policies that we announced, regardless of what the Leader of the Opposition and the Premier of Queensland have tried to and the Premier of have tried to claim, the policy have tried that we have announced equally to the Torres Straiters
as it that we have announced applies
equally to as it does to the Indian ocean. It applies as it does to the Indian It applies to anyone who comes by boat without a visa, are no matter what pathway they choose. That is very simply, they will not be settled in Australia. The four people who have come across the cores straight are now, each of them, await ing deportation. The deportation options will vary for each of them, depending on the validity of the different claims they have put forward. But for none of those people will settlement within Australia be an option. I noticed Leader of the Opposition in one of the online reports has swapped his three-word slogan with respect to the Torres Strait for a four-word one, where he says he now has a plan for a plan. Can I just say, I'm not sure what more, with respect to the Torres Strait, can be done than say if you come across the Torres Strait you won't be staying in Australia. That is a tougher line than what this Government's had previously. It is a tougher line than ever applied during the Howard years - than ever applied during the Howard years. To see the excitement and glee and anticipation that the Opposition have tried to drum up for purely political reasons, ignores the absolute cornerstone of the Government 's policy, which is if people arrive by boat without a visa, they will not be settled within Australia. How that involves anything but a strengthening of the rules across the Torres Strait is completely beyond me. I'm happy to take any questions. REPORTER: (Inaudible) what's the information about... (inaudible). I don't have as a matter of course we will
release that. I'm getting very close to being able to send close to being able family groups off Christmas
Island. close to being able to send Island. They will probably go to Nauru first, the Island. They will probably to Nauru first, the first
family groups. I expect facilities in Nauru will be ready before facilities on Manus Island. But I know that some people have tried to anticipate that maybe we won't send unaccompanied minors. We will. We will. And it is not long before family groups will begin to be sent to Nauru. The PNG Government of specifically raised with me that they would like family groups and unaccompanied minors to start being sent to Papua New Guinea as well, and it won't be long - it will be a little bit longer than Nauru, but it won't be long before we have family accommodation available at each. REPORTER: How long? When will you transfer the first family to Nauru?

We are talking - the outside edge of the next couple of weeks, with respect to Nauru. We have actually - with Nauru, as you would expect, the configuration of the site has become more difficult, because of the riots that took place. So where we were nearly ready to send families, has actually become a main area for housing of people. There is a new site that is an open area that has been agreed to with the Government of Nauru. That will be where families go to. I'll be able to give more reports on that when I have had a fresh conversation with the Government of Nauru. So the information I'm giving you days
there on Nauru is a couple of days old since I was last briefed on where that was up to. REPORTER: You described it as an open site - do you mean they are free to roam...Yes. REPORTER: As I understand it, the detainees on Nauru rnd allowed to do that, is that the case, or am I wrong? The Nauruan Government have indicated that they will have an open centre, and that they are okay for it to be an open centre for family groups. Their view of the visa arrangements, as I understand it, applies to what happens to people post-settlement, if they are found to have a valid claim. You need to remember that before we had the new agreement with Nauru, which is what gave rise to the discussion of an additional visa category, they had already commenced discussion with their own community about shifting to an open centre. My first Minister for
meeting with the Nauruan Minister for Justice, he raised with me that they were wanting to switch to an open centre. Obviously the support among the people of Nauru and the Government of Nauru for that had to be readjusted following the riots, because certainly you could not expect single adult males to be in an open centre if they'd been involved in the disturbances that occurred. So there was some readjustment of that in everyone's thinking, including mine, but certainly with respect to family groups. We have been working on the
timeframe that have been working on timeframe that I described and
the suggestions have been working on the
timeframe the suggestions for that were the initiated by the Nauruan Government. So I would be surprised if there is a visa problem while people are being processed. (Inaudible) who is the operational manager for the Nauruan centre? You have a different structure there - with each of the centres, you have someone who is in charge of the operations for my department. They play a significant leadership role in the management of the centres. Ultimately, you are talking about centres that are within another country and centres where the Government Minister s, I respect as having principle authority there. REPORTER: There is a title "operational manager", in the governing area? You are wanting to know Government Act specific title - I'll get the information for you, Paul, but as you know, for all of is something as specific as that, I'm always making absolutely sure that at no stage am I giving you information that isn't in the absolutely strictest sense the correct term. You've asked what the correct term is and we will get that to you today.

REPORTER: The individuals (inaudible) - the individual's Torres
name?REPORTER: In regards to Torres Strait, there is Opposition in regards to resourcing there - is there adequate resourcing there or is there a need for more resourcing there? There have been two vessels and each has been intercepted. You had periods during Government years when there periods during the Howard were vessel movements well beyond that, some of which were not intercepted. I'm yet to see an argument other than a hysterical reaction from the Opposition. I'm yet to see an argument that actually says we have anything other than a streb threatening with the new policy. REPORTER: Do you know about the two Soma will, is, they will have been briefed by now - where did they come from, what are their circumstances, have they lodged asylum claims? How did they end up where they are? The information which I have has been given to me in a guarded fashion because they weren't happy with the status of the interpreter, for some of that information. It can be liable to shifts. Certainly, the commencement of the voyage has been described as occurring from Indonesia. Exactly where the stop-offs were along the way, there was some doubt about the information that was provided on first briefing, and for that reason I'm happy for the department to pass on the latest, but I don't want to be out affirming anything I've specifically been told
that the quality of the interpretation they had at first cut they didn't think was great. The situation for each of them, though, is that the intention will be for any asylum claim that they may make, for that to be assessed in Papua New Guinea or Nauru - probably Papua New Guinea. The other vessel, which had a PNG national and someone whose nationality was Indonesian, to
from the West Papuan province, to the extent that the PNG national seeks asylum, on the first part of information I had there, there was a prospect that this was someone who had been to Australia previously and had been returned previously. That doesn't change the fact that there might be a valid claim, so you still have the conversation. But it simply means that either there is not a valid claim, in which case our protection obligations are not activated, and he would simply be returned to Papua New Guinea. If it was found that there was a claim to be heard, then he would be sent to Nauru. REPORTER: Did they indicate why they chose Torres Strait, assuming they did choose that, and they didn't just (inaudible). The information that I have was not of that quality. REPORTER: There has been some reporting the Labor Party is happy with the asylum seeker the Labor Party the asylum seeker policy and that it could change if Labor was re-elected that it could change if was re-elected in September. Is there pressure that there could be some change? Is there pressure that could be some change? I feel could be some change? I no pressure it will at all. no pressure it will at all. I respect members no pressure it will at respect members of Parliament will put respect will put different views. I respect members of Parliament will think the Coalition are well used will put different views. used to some of their own back bench putting different views on this used to some of their on this policy area. There bench putting different on would have been on this policy area. would have been no petro Georgeo, were that not the case. But certainly pressure on
case. But certainly I feel no pressure on this at all. I think it needs to be remembered that this was one of the issues which the PM squarely put on the agenda for the Caucus meeting for us to have a discussion about. During that discussion, there were different points of view that were put at the Caucus meeting, but I have no doubt at all that the vast majority of Caucus members have the same view I have, which is, difficult as decisions like this are, the alternative is much, much worse. Therefore, if we are going to do something serious about stopping the risk of life in the high seas, about having our humanitarian quota eventually increased, and also about having a humanitarian quota selected in consultation with the UN, not self-selected by people smug lers, then this is the correct way forward. REPORTER: So an isolated concern, do you think, this comment? Not a majority concern. I think that is a better way to put it. There are a number of members of Parliament, and I wouldn't limit this to the Labor Party. A number of members of Parliament across every party would be uncomfortable with the pathway we have chosen. I am completely convinced every other alternative carries implications which no-one would convinced about
want. I'm also completely convinced about the support across the Government.That is the Immigration Minister Tony Burke speaking. He was providing one of his regular updates about the Labor's asylum seeker policy, particularly detention centre on Manus Island. particularly the status of the Island. Just before he stepped up I was speaking to political reporter Nick Dole, in Canberra, and he remains with us. We were talking about some of Tony Abbott's apparent gaffes, and the Government certainly has leapt on some comments that the Opposition Leader made today, this time on gay marriage. Yes, that's right. He was speaking to John Laws in Sydney on 2SM and he was asked about the recent moves within the Parliament and potential moves in the next term of Parliament towards legalising same-sex marriage. Tony Abbott described that movement as the fashion of the moment. Let's hear some of his I'm not saying that our culture, our traditions are perfect, but we have to respect them and my idea is to build on the strength of our society, and I support by and large evolutionary change. I'm not someone who wants to see radical change based on the fashion of the moment. As you said, Kim, the Government leapt on those comments. The depcy PM, Anthony Albanese, said they will be taken as offensive by many people and he says it proves that the Coalition and indeed the Opposition Leader isn't taking the issue seriously. To define sexual orientation as fashion of the moment will be deeply offensive to many Australians. - particularly families, as well as individuals who happen to be gay or lesbian. Anthony Albanese there. Tony Abbott was asked about his comments a little later on in Brisbane. He repeated gay marriage is an important issue, but not the only issue, and he said that the Coalition does have a number of members who feel very strongly within it. Of course Tony Abbott does have a gay sister, but Tony Abbott stressed that in the lead-up to the election the Coalition will be focusing on what he calls bread and butter issues, and so much gay marriage.

To some other news now and Essendon says it will vigorously defend charges levelled against coach James Hird and three senior club officials over the supplements saga. The four have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute as Kelly underwood reports.It's officially game on between the AFL
Essendon football club and the AFL after charges were laid last night. The club, senior coach and one of the most celebrated players of all time Mark
James Hird, his assistant coach Mark Thompson, the head of football, Danny the long time doctor Dr Bruce
Reid have all the long time Reid have all been charged with bringing the Reid have bringing the game into disrepute as a result of that disrepute as a result of controversial last year. As of this morning,
the the lawyers for both sides have the lawyers for begun to plot their next move. In the meantime, begun to plot their next have been cleared by ASADA. The AFL says no anti-doping charges would be laid, based on the evidence to date. But it's important to remember that this investigation is still continuing. Essendon has 12 days to mount its Defence, and the club has already said that it will fight these charges rigorously. D Day is August 26, when the club is expect ed to front the AFL Commission. The club could be stripped of its Premiership points in the lead-up to the finals series and this would e limb Nat it from this year's finals serris while the individuals face lengthy suspensions. Both side will try to settle this through negotiation. But you really can't see them finding any common ground within the next 14 days. So that means that there is every chance this will head to court. The club could appeal the penalties handed down by seeking an injunction in the Supreme Court, which would allow the club to pay plai in the final - play in the finals, and this is the AFL's worse nightmare. So there is still a long way to go in this never-ending saga between the AFL and the Essendon football clubment as of today the club is plotting - it has 12 days - to plot its Defence before it officially fronts the AFL Commission on D Day, August 26. Well, let's head further North now. A brand new community is nearing completion on the outskirts of Darwin. It will house thousands of workers building a multi billion dollar gas processing plant. Penny
Timms has the story.This project is the result of one of the largest gas deals in Australia's history. Gas will be extracted from the base inin the be extracted from the the Timor sea, parked nearly 900kms to a processing plant at Darwin harbour. 900kms to a processing plant Darwin harbour. Once construction is complete, more than 8 million tonnes of produced each year for 40 years. It's being operated by Japanese resource giant and its partners, and the gas is destined for the overseas market. But to get to that stage, workers are needed - lots of them. This is where many of them will be housed, with the first already starting to arrive. At its peak, in 2015, almost 3,500 fly in, fly out workers will be housed here. This is the general manager. He says the project as a whole is on schedule. Well, last week we started introducing our first-handfuls of 200 or more workers into the village and we'll be bringing them on progressively from now. . This will be supporting the construction workforce here in Darwin, well into late 2016, early 2017.He's also moved quashed concerns that the project won't be the economic pot of gold many local businesses had thought it would be. A project that has an offshore and onshore annual operating expenditure of over half a billion dollars for a 40-year life span, after construction, that is going to cap capture the interests and provide benefit to a large amount of the Australian economy.When production starts in late 2016, the project will provide about 19% of the gross domestic product out of the Northern Territory. Don't forget you can ABC News 24 at any time, even when you're away from your television. is at abc.net.au/news. Still to come on 'Afternoon Live', the major parties both pledge to avoid another hung Parliament by ruling out any deals with minor parties after polling day. ABC News.
These are the top stories on ABC News. The major parties are raising the stakes to prevent another hung Parliament. Tony Abbott's declared the Liberal Party will encourage voters to put the Greens last when they number their ballot papers. Kevin Rudd promised not to do deals with the minor parties or independents, but declined to comment on preferences. Essendon coach James Hird says he's shattered by the AFL's decision to charge the club over the bombers' supplements program. Hird and three other officials have also been charged with bringing the game into disrepute as part of an ongoing anti-doping investigation by ASADA. The Bombers' chairman says the club will fight the charges. Police have charged a driver with one of the highest blood alcohol readings ever recorded. The 24-year-old man was arrested on the NSW North coast with a reading of 0.331, almost seven times the legal limit. The man was already disqualified from driving until 2016 because of previous offences. And a man and a woman have faced court today accused of robbing a World War II veteran in Sydney's west. The pair's accused of ransacking 94-year-old Clive Harris Park home on Monday. Police found the 28-year-old man at a Bankstown home last night and then arrested a 22-year-old woman shortly afterwards.

The major parties are raising the The major parties the stakes to ensure Australia does not end the stakes to ensure does not end up with does not end up with another hung does not end up hung Parliament or minority Government. Tony Abbott has declared the Liberal Party will encourage voters to put the Greens last when they number their ballot papers. He's challenging Kevin Rudd to challenging Kevin Rudd to do the same. Of our reporter, Narda Gilmore, is travelling with the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, and she sent us this report. Tony Abbott came here this afternoon, but refrained from showing off his ball skills leaving the netball to his daughter, . It is in the electorate of longman, held by Wyatt Roy, by just 1.9%. Earlier, Tony Abbott had a more serious visit to Queensland Police headquarters to talk border security with the Queensland Premier, Campbell Newman. His focus is on the Torres Strait, North of Australia. He says if Australia's going to have a Papua New Guinea plan to resettle asylum seekers there, it also needs a Torres Strait plan. He's described that area as being a poor border with - porous border. He says if the PNG plan goes ahead, there would also need to be more Torres Strait
resources given to areas in the Torres Strait to protect our borders. Obviously there is now the potential for a trade, essentially, a people smuggling trade, across the Torres Strait.Mr Abbott started the day with his big announcement that the Liberals would preference Labor ahead of the Greens in all 150 Lower House seats. He'll leave Queensland this afternoon for another State. The PM, Kevin Rudd, is now in Brisbane where he's about to head to the Ekka. He - Ekka. He spent the morning in Far North Queensland announcing more trades training in a row Kevin Rudd has focused in a row Kevin Rudd on jobs and skills. Andrew Greene is travelling with Mr Rudd.The PM has come to yet another marginal Queensland electorate, this time in Cairns, Warren
Leichhardt, which is held by Warren edge. He's been touring the Saint Mary's college here in Cairns and has been with Billy Gordon, hoping to become the first Nigeria nought MP - indigenous MP to represent the ALP in the House of Representatives. While he has toured this trade training centre, Kevin Rudd has announced an extra 200 million dollars to build further trade training centres. This is a theme that Kevin Rudd has been campaigning on for several days now, talking about needing to skill the workforce past the for
China-led resources boom. So, for the third day in a row, Kevin Rudd is targeting Coalition-held electorates in his home State of Queensland. Of course, they are all crucial if he's to win the election in a couple of weeks' time.Both sides of politics boosted their use of social media in this campaign, with photos the main medium of choice to spruik their respective brands. From Kevin Rudd's shaving selfy to snaps from Tony Abbott's morning runs, to glimpses - do glimpses into every day lives make us to support and ultimately vote for a particular candidate? Should politicians show more personally on social media or does it distract from their work. You can get in touch with the NX Votes team, just use the hashtag or on Facebook. Don't forget to watch Matt Cargill tonight at 5:30 eastern. The Greens leader Christine Milne believes the decision by the Liberal Party to preference her party last in Lower House seats will help draw a clearer distinction between the Greens and the major parties. Senator Milns able to
is confident the Greens will be able to hang on to the electorate of Melbourne, which is the only House of Representatives seat that the party holds. She spoke a short time ago to our political editor, Lyndal Curtis.

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Christine Milne, welcome to ABC News 24. Thank you.What impact do you think the Liberal's decision to put the Greens last in preferences will have on your party?Well, we were expecting that to be the case, Lyndal. Adam Bandt's campaign has been designed with that in mind. So it just means we have to work that bit harder to increase the primary vote in Melbourne. I'm confident we can do that, because Adam is a much-loved local Melbourne can see the tremendous outcomes that we have been able to deliver with the clean energy package, the $13 billion into renewable we
energy, the denticare. I think we are going to see the people of Melbourne rally behind Adam.Do you know what sort of primary vote he will need in order to be able to honouring hang on to the seat?A recent poll gave him 48. The last time it was 36. So I think he needs to lift his primary vote
by by twobl 3 or 4%. I think by twobl 3 or 4%. that's eminently by twobl 3 or 4%. I that's eminently achievable, that's especially now that there's such a clear choice to be especially now that such a clear choice to with the Liberal Party saying they'd prefer with
such a clear choice to be made, they'd prefer to have Labor
there, that they with the Liberal Party saying they'd prefer there, that they are closer together. There is now that, if you like, cartel on one side of politics and the Greens out there as the strong alternative.Does it mean you alternative.Does it are less likely to pick up other seats you were looking at, like Batman in Melbourne?They were always going to be a hard ask, and they are harder now. That's certainly true. But, again, I think people are going to say, well, hang on a moment, Australian democracy doesn't belong to Tony Abbott or Kevin Rudd - it's the people. Trying to push everyone else out and just keep it for the two old parties, are I think will encourage people to get behind the Green's campaign, I think we'll end up with more volunteers, more activity on the streets and hopefully that will translate into good outcomes.Mr Abbott's decision doesn't mean that people will preference the Greens last, does it? The how to vote cards are a suggestion, rather than an instruction. People can vote how they like, can't they?Exactly. And that's what I've been saying to voters - vote Green and then for whoever you like, because you are in charge of your own vote. You go into the polling booth and you decide. I'm hoping that Liberal voters, when they look at it, will think, gosh, that's interesting, Tony Abbott's out there telling us how shocking return
Kevin Rudd is, but he's saying return a Labor member in the seat of Melbourne. I think there will be a lot of Liberal Party voters who think, no, are I don't actually want to do that.What about the Senate. ? Do you know if it just applies to the house of representative s or to the Senate, too, and, if so, what could that mean for your Senate vote?We don't know at this stage, Lyndal, what it means in terms of what the Coalition is determine today do in the Senate. But what is frightening is Tony Abbott's arrogance saying that he wants to get control of the Parliament so he can drive through his agenda, or he'll send the people to a double dissolution, unless he gets what he wants.But why is arrogance? Isn't that what party leaders say - they put out a platform, they say they want to do it, it would be surprise if a party leader said I'd like to do this, but if the Parliament doesn't go that way, I'll put my feet up and have a cuppa instead?Certainly that's the case in the Lower House. When it becomes to the Senate, Australians have become accustomed to a genuine house of review. What Tony Abbott is suggesting is that he wants what John Howard had and did, and that is absolute power and then brought in work choices, which he hadn't even canvassed before the election.Isn't the longer run history of Australians voting in longer run Australians voting in the snet that they do vote different ways between the House of Representatives and the Senate, and it's only that period from 2004 to and it's only that period 2004 to 2007 where the Government had majority in both houses? That's right. I'm hoping that the Australian people continue the of voting differently in the Senate and recognising the important role the Greens have played in the Senate, making sure that we curb the excesses of a Government and, in the case of Tony Abbott, it would be an Abbott Government or to stop the back-flipping of Kevin Rudd in the event that he happened to be the PM.Mr Abbott said this morning he would not lead a minority Government. Mr Rudd said he would not do a formal - formal agreements with minor parties and independents if there was a my forty Government - minor - minority Government. Whatever happened in the minority government, do you believe na whatever the perception is, the minority Parliament that has just ended, didn't work as well as it could have? That's what Tony Abbott would like the community to believe, but you only have to look at the record. We have got the clean Disability Insurance
energy package, National Disability Insurance Scheme, more money into schools, we have got Denticare for example, so a lot of good outcomes, and far more reform than has been achieved under a Liberal Government for a long time. The other fascinating point is that Tony Abbott said he won't lead a minority Government. That's exactly what he's doing, because the Liberals cannot govern as a majority. They depend on the nationals. Is he saying he's now kicking the nationals out and it's the Liberals or nothing? Of course not. The Coalition, by definition, is minority, the Liberals are a minority and he's lining up Warren trust to be Deputy PM. Most Australians haven't even heard of Warren trust, let alone under what deals have been done between Tony Abbott and Warren Truss.On that note, thank you very much for your time. Thank you, Lyndal. live to Egypt where there are reports that Egyptian security forces have begun to clear two of the protests camps being manned by supporters of the deposed President Mohammed Morsi. Let's take some live pictures now from Al Jazeera in Cairo. We are getting some reports that security forces started moving in a short time ago. The BBC, for example, is reporting that an armed bulldozer has been heading towards the sit-in outside mosque. There have been bursts of gun fire. Some reporter rs are also saying helicopters can be seen circling overhead and announcements are being made on loud speakers. There is also a second protest camp, and that is in the Nada square to the west of the city. Pro-Morsi supporters have been camped out in these two spots in Cairo for the past six weeks, and they have the past six weeks, have been protesting ever since have been protesting ever the military removed Egyptian
President Mohammed Morsi. the military removed President Mohammed Morsi. That happened on 3 July. He was removed by the happened on 3 July. He removed by the military because
of

However, he still does of mass Opposition protests. sort of a strong core of supporters, many of them who are aligned to the Muslim Brotherhood. We are getting quite varying reports about possible casualties, even deaths that have occurred in deaths that have occurred this latest security operation. One report of one person killed, eyewitnesses are saying up to 15 people are killed. Let's have a listen in now to Al

Layla, from the Egypt anti-coup alliance, joining us from Cairo and bringing us up to speed on what's going on there. Let's go back to our guest, Ibrahim Sharkiya onset with us. So now we are hearing that - this person from the anti-cou alliance says maybe up to 30 people have been killed - anti-coup, and it is calling it a crime against humanity, crimes against humanity, for the military to clear out protests this way. Is it? I think we should expect to see if they continue with the move, to see higher number, unfortunately. Injuries, and probably people killed in the process. Dealing with this large number of protestors, I think Leyla from Egypt said a very important point, which is the protestors have a right to protest peacefully. So this is very important. With this, I have to alert you to a very important issue here, which is they are
the alternatives available if they are not protesting peacefully. We have the allow gearian experience in mind, in 1992, when the elect ed leadership of Algeria was also overthrown, and the outcome was that - protestors disappeared from the public streets, but resorted to violence. public streets, but they resorted to violence. We started - we saw a bloody civil war to take place for years to come in Algeria.And many thousands died in that civil war. We'll believe the death toll now in Egypt is in the hundreds. How much worse is it going to get? Does it have to get, before these two sides actually talk?Well, that is very important, because that's why we - the commitment to peaceful protesting, I think this is very important. The Muslim Brotherhood should be encouraged to continue to protest using their way of peacefully instead of using or resorting to alternative methods. Because, again, trying to remove them by force is not going to solve the problem. The problem will transform itself. If it's not people protesting, they will use other methods and they will resort to other alternatives available to them, including violence, because some small groups...That is where we are going to interrupt Al Jazeera's live coverage there of the situation in Egypt. Egyptian security forces have moved in to clear two camps full of pro Mohammed Morsi supporters there in Cairo. We are having reports that tear gas has been fired, police helicopters are circling overhead. You can see some heavy, thick smoke. AFP is reporting that up to 15 people may have been killed in this operation. We'll continue to keep an eye on that throughout the afternoon here on ABC News 24. We'll bring you any further developments.

Now let's return home. The CSIRO has released an independent report into claims of workplace bullying. The report has found no major widespread problems at the research organisation. That's despite more than 100 current and former staff making allegations of harassment and bullying. To discuss this, I'm Executive
joined now by the Chief Executive of the CSIRO, Dr Megan Clarke. While the report found no major problems with bullying, it found pockets of concerns, shortcomings in the proceedings, but do you feel the organisation has been vindicated by these findings?We have received that report today from the independent investigator, Professor Pearce. I think it's a wise report. It provides clear actions from CSIRO, and it does point to areas of concern that need to be addressed. Also, it gives us clear actions for improvements that the organisation needs to make.Half of these complaints came from current employees. Does that illustrate that the CSIRO does have a problem with its workplace culture?Look, I have spoken to all staff and encouraged them to come forward. We have also left no stone unturned to make sure that we were listening to people who have been part of the past. The important thing here the organisation over years past. is to make past. The important thing is to make sure that we understand and listen to is to make sure that understand and listen to those understand and listen experiences. I have been struck, as I experiences. I have struck, as I read some of the struck, as I read some of submissions, the sense of isolation, this sense that it's an individual's problem and we need to make the shift this is not an individual's problem, but this is an organisational issue.Who's responsible for take responsibility for this happening?I am responsible for what happens and how we work in CSIRO. That's why we take this issue so seriously. There is nothing more important than the health and well-being of our people.I understand the investigation of individual complaints is still underway. What will you do, if it's found that any individual has been bullied or harassed?If, when we complete the investigation - and we now move to that second stage where we will investigate the allegations - if there is a finding of misconduct for any CSIRO people, that will be addressed. If we found that, at the end of these investigations, anyone has been bullied in Executive of CSIRO, will unreservedly apologise.Okay. Dr Megan Clarke, thank you for joining us this afternoon. Thank you.The UN special envoy on human rights has toured the Myanmar State of ra kin, played by ongoing texts between but tensions. Taking the opportunity to meet with communities affected by sectarian violence. The visit comes day after police Muslims for the third time in two months, in Rahkine. I two months, in Rahkine. really hope that the situation will improve. I know it is very will improve. I very difficult. I know will improve. I know it very difficult. I know how difficult it is to live now, but you have my commitment to
find solutions.Clashes between Rahkine Buddhists and Muslims last year killed more than 190 people and left 140,000 homeless. Mr Quintana was again greeted by protestors who accused him of bias towards the Rohinga. A severe thunder storm has been issued in Queensland?Yes, there is the potential for damaging wind and large hailstones in association with these thunder storms - it covers people in parts of the Darling Downs...

Thanks very much, Graham. You are watching 'Afternoon Live' on ABC News 24. When we come back, we'll take a closer look at the AFL's charges against Essendon as the league warns further charges could be laid. For now, live pictures from Cairo in Egypt, where Egyptian security forces have moved in beginning an operation to clear two protest camps in the capital. There are unconfirmed reports that up to 15 people have been killed. These are protest camps manned by supporters of the deposed President Mohammed Morsi. They have been in - in situation
there, have been there, in location, for about six weeks since he was ousted there, in location, for by the Egyptian six weeks since he was by the Egyptian military in early July. We'll continue to bring you live coverage of this throughout the afternoon here on ABC News 24. Closed Captions by CSI.

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This is 'Afternoon Live' on ABC News 24. Hello, I'm Kim Landers. Our top story today, laughing it off - Tony Abbott sees the funny side of his campaign trail gaffes.

As the kids suggested to me, I had a dad moment. A tacky dad moment maybe, yeah. It is no wonder that Tony his minders keep him away from serious scrutiny and serious interviews.Gaffes aside, the major parties ruled out a minority Government deal to minimise the chances of a hung Parliament, which could spell bad news for the Greens. We'll speak to Nick Dole in Canberra on today's developments in the campaign trail.

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Reports that more than 15 people have been killed in Cairo as police Michael Voss in to clear protestors supporting the ousted President Mohammed Morsi. Also this afternoon, shattered Morsi. Also this shattered and determined, Essendon coach James Hird says he'll fight to clear his name after being he'll fight after being charged by the after being charged by the AFL. And warm after being charged by And warm winter weather pulls And the crowds And warm winter weather the crowds at Ekka's big day out in Brisbane. And warm winter weather pulls
the crowds at Ekka's big day The PM and the Opposition Leader have now both promised Leader that they won't try to Leader have now both that they won't try to strike a
deal with independents that they won't try deal with independents or minor deal parties to deal with independents or parties to form Government. Tony Abbott parties Tony Abbott has gone a step further, saying he's ordered the Liberal Party to put the Greens below Labor on how to vote cards in every seat. Mr vote cards in every seat. Abbott has been campaigning in Brisbane, but he spent a lot of time trying to explain some gaffes, like his reference to a female candidate's sex appeal, and why he's called gay marriage the fashion of the moment. Kevin Rudd has been in Cairns, pledging to rollout the next stage of Labor's multi million dollar trades training program and is now at Brisbane's Ekka. Let's take a look at the leaders' day so far. I have to say, I'm absolutely hopeless at this stuff. Both year 12s?Yes. Of theJust been looking will you the training instrument, centre, it looks great.

What's your name, mate? Glood good to see you.

If we can let the PM through now, thank you very much. Can I have a photo quickly. ? If you're going to have a PNG plan, you've got to have a Torres Strait plan as well. Lovely to be here. Nice to meet you.She's very excited to meet you. I love netball. I used to play on Saturdays. It's a fantastic sport. Go netball, that's right. Fellows, bring the media off the court so the girls can do their thing. Spent quite a Spent quite a few years on the sidelines of the netball court watching my daughters play. It's a great sport.Looks like she hasn't lost the skill. She is not quite dressed for the part. Nevertheless, she's a good player.For the latest on the campaign, I'm joined by political reporter nick doll in Canberra. With Tony Abbott deciding to put the Greens last on how to vote cards, could this theoretically help Labor?Well, it could certainly in some seats, but I suppose Tony Abbott, from his perspective, would be trying to think he's playing more of a long game, Kim, but certainly if you look at some electorates that are under threat, some Labor held seats under threat from the Greens, seats like Granla held by Anthony Albanese, this would almost certainly eliminate that threat, and you look at seats like Melbourne, formerly held by Labor currently held by the Greens, it certainly disadvantage s Adam Bandt, although he still hopes he might be able to win the seat in his own right. Certainly Tony Abbott says he's continued a line which has - he's been putting forward for the last few weeks that really he does not want to lead a minority Government at all. In fact, he's described the last term of Parliament as a failure when it comes to minority Governments and he'll be also preferencing the Greens last. Kevin Rudd was asked to respond to some of Mr Abbott's announcements. said when it comes to preference es, he's going to leave that up to the ALP organisation. But he says when it comes to deals with parties like the Greens or the independents, to cling on to power, he won't be making it. He hasn't been quite as clear as Tony Abbott when it comes to leading a minority Government. He certainly left the door open there, but there won't be any formal agreements like there were in the last term of Parliament, he said. Let's hear from Tony Abbott, Kevin Rudd and then Christine Milne. This is my Captain's call. I say to Mr Rudd, be man enough to do the same. The last thing that you, the people, want is another hung Parliament and another minority Government. All preference matters are handled by the national secretary of our party. And I'm not aware of what agreements have been reached and, frankly, I intend to leaf it all to - leave it all to them. Let me also be plain about this - we will not be entering into any Coalition agreements, we won't have any negotiated agreements, any deals. They have moved so far together and so far to the right I'm not in the least bit surprised that you have got this kind of could collusion going on to do in the Greens. TheNick, both tap and Kevin Rudd have wound up in Brisbane to the. There has been a strong focus on Queensland. Of course, it's vital for both, but certainly Kevin Rudd needs to win back a number of seats in Queensland if he's to have any hope of achieving Government. He has been steadily working his way North. Today he was up in Cairns announcing new detail s of the Government's trade training centres. As you say, he's now flown back to the capital and we are expecting to see him at the Ekka in a very short time. Tony Abbott made that trip himself just a few days back. So that's Kevin Rudd. Tony Abbott has been mainly around the Brisbane area. This morning he met with Campbell Newman, the premier and they discussed border protection matters, actually, particularly in regards to the Torres Strait. And he's also made his way to the marginal seat of longman, where he announced some details local sporting some details and some money for local sporting facilities. He
also met with local sporting also met with the also met with the local LNP sitting member, Wyatt Roy. while Tony Abbott was really sitting member, Wyatt trying to focus on some sitting member, Wyatt Roy. But
while Tony Abbott was really trying to focus on some of trying to focus on those local issues, questions were asked of those local issues, a number of questions were asked of his
comments that questions were asked comments that he made yesterday
- questions were asked of his - yesterday, of course, he was in Sydney - yesterday, of course, he in Sydney and he described candidate, Fiona Scott, as having sex appeal. He did last night say they are great mates, in his words, and he said he was a bit exuberant. He's been asked about it again today. Let's hear some of his comments and then some from the PM, who is taking quite a strong line on it. Look, as the kids suggested to me, I had a dad moment. A tacky dad moment. If any male employer stood up in a workplace anywhere in Australia and, pointing to a female staff member, said this person is a good staff member because they've got sex appeal, I think people would scratch their heads, at least, and I think the employer would be finding themself in serious strife.The Government has also leapt on some other comments, Nick Dole, that the Opposition Leader has been making today, this time on gay marriage. Opposition Leader
Yes, that's right. The Opposition Leader was speaking to John Laws on 2SM and he wa asked about the move towards gay marriage. Tony Abbott was again really reinforcing his view he believes in the more traditional definition of marriage and he described the moves towards gay marriage as being the fashion of the moment. Let's hear from some of those comments now. I'm not saying that our culture, our traditions are perfect, but we have to respect them, and my idea is to build on the strength of our society and I support, by and large, evolutionary change. I'm not someone who wants to see radical change, based on the fashion of the moment. Anthony Albanese, the Deputy Prime Minister, he says that these comments show that the Opposition Leader doesn't take the issue seriously enough. To define sexual orientation as fashion of the moment will be deeply offensive to many Australians. , particularly families, as well individuals who happen to be gay or lesbian. Tony Abbott was asked, Kim, about those comments later on at the event in Queensland. He reiterated a point that he's made before - he does think gay marriage, he says, is an important issue, but he says it's not the issue. He says there are many within the party who do take it very seriously and are trying to push it, are but he says particularly in the lead-up to the election the Coalition will be focusing more strongly on what he deems to be bread and butter issue, of course Tony Abbott does have a gay sister. Who is a strong advocate of gay marriage, of course, and she has taken to dwiter this - Twitter this afternoon once again saying he speaks for himself and not for her. Now let's return to a developing story in Egypt. Reports say at least 15 people have been killed as security forces start to clear supporters of the former President Mohammed Morsi from two sprawling protest camps. Our Brad cast partner Al Jazeera is covering developments on the ground tear
there. We've had reports that tear gas has been fired. There have been bursts of gun fire as well. Helicopters are circling overhead. There has been a warning for the past couple of days that security forces were getting ready to implement a phased plan to disburse the protestors. This is almost certain to deepen the political turmoil in Egypt. These supporters of Mohammed Morsi have been camping out since early July, when the President was removed by the military Government. They are very unhappy at that development. There is no official confirmation of the number of deaths as a result of this security operation, but several reports, including one from a reporter from AFP, says that up to 15 people have been killed. We'll continue to monitor this development in Cairo throughout the afternoon. And now let's take a look at some of the other stories that we are following today with Richard Davies. Good afternoon, a court battle is under way between a tiny town in NSW and Rio Tinto. The resources giant is appealing against a decision not to allow it to expand its open cut mine in Bulga, in the hupter valley - Hunter Valley. Jayne Margetts reports. In April last year the residents of Bulga had a significant win in this case, when the Land and Environment Court ruled to stop the expansion of the mine. It found that there would have been unacceptable impacts on the environment, on public health and on the whole fabric of the village of Bulga. fabric of the Rio Tinto is fabric of the village of Rio Tinto is today beginning Rio Tinto its appeal against that Rio Tinto is today decision, and as you can its appeal behind
decision, and as you can see behind me, decision, and as you behind me, the residents of Bulga have turned out behind me, the residents Bulga have turned out in
protest. Bulga have turned out decision in their favour protest. They say a vital to the survival of their decision in

The dust in the Hunter Valley is enormous. 130,000 is enormous. 130,000 tonnes of dust a year falls into our Local Government area. We have one of the highest rates in Australia of asthma in our kids. As far as commention is concerned - compensation is concerned, Rio Tinto is compelled to buy 26 propertiness the area. If the people who own those homes choose to sell up and move out. But the residents say that leaves at least another 100 homes that would be affected by dust and noise, if the mine is allowed to go ahead. Rio Tinto says a win in court here today is the only way of ensuring the survival of the mine and it says if the company loses, then 1300 jobs will be at risk. A lot of mining companies watching what happens today and reading into it implications for investment in NSW due to the failings of the planning system. The people of Bulga so far have raised $40,000 to pay for their they are confident they can raise at least another 20,000. That goes some way to showing the depth of feeling towards this hunter valley community.Police have charged a driver with one of the highest blood alcohol readings ever recorded. The 24-year-old man was arrested on the NSW North coast with a reading of legal limit. Bystanders
detained the man after he hit a tree, drove on detained the tree, drove on the wrong side of the road, and
of the road, and then crashed into a car. He got very violent with me, so we just sort of detained him until the because
time he tried to pee on me, because he wanted to urinate.Police say the man was already disqualified from driving until 2016. He was charged with a range of offences, including reckless and drunk driving. Two people have appeared in court charged with robbing a 94-year-old World War II veteran. Nicole Chettle reports.This case involves the alleged robbery of a 94-year-old man at his home in Sydney's west on Monday. Now, the gentleman was returning home from his shopping using a motorised scooter because he had two broken hips. He waved down the accused pair - 22-year-old and 28-year-old Mustafa. Once inside, police say the home was ransacked - $100 in 2 dollar coins was stolen and a gold cruise effects around the man's next was ripped from him as one said,
of the accused is said to have said, "That looks expensive." Police were able to