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(generated from captions) This Program is Captioned Live. Today the party leaders hit the streets as week two of the campaign gets into full swing.Both sides claim a win in the not so great debate.Japan's Government steps in to help plug radioactive leaks from the Fukushima nuclear plant. And the ultimate in voter research, the Norweigan PM's unique connection with the voters.Hello, you're watchling News 24, I'm Joe O'Brien. Taking a quick look at the weather first in the capital cities around the nation for tomorrow -

The PM has visited Macquarie University today where he announced a new $36 million package to support the manufacturing industry. The announcement was made with Kim Carr. Mr Rudd said the Labor Party was focussed on creating building blocks for Australia's future, now the country could no longer rely on the China mining boom. The extra money will go towards creating new jobs in high-tech industries.We believe what we need for the future of our manufacturing is to continue to move up the value-added chain, into high-tech, high skill sector foos all of our workers to be able to lift their skills on the way through. So today I announce that if our Government is returned to office, we'll invest $35.6 million working with business and institutions like this to begin to retrain our manufacturing workforce for the future. Our manufacturing skills plus program will help nearly 7,000 manufacturing workers to
develop nearly 7,000 new and existing develop the skills they need develop the skills they for the new industries of the for the future. We want to for the new industries of future. We want to help our future. We want companies, move from low skilled low technology manufacturing to high skilled, high-tech sectors where we will find the jobs of the future. This initiative builds on the $35 million steps to skilled initiative I announced yesterday. The bottom line is this - you cannot create the jobs of the future unless you're investing in the skills of the future and that's what this Government is about, building our country's future.And the Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has been campaigning in Melbourne today, highlights infrastructure. He's announced a Coalition Government would publish an annual statement on the state of the infrastructure around the nation.Tony Abbott came here to the victim roads headquarters in east Melbourne is
today and the theme of the day is infrastructure for the Coalition. The Coalition has already committed $1.5 billion to the East-West link here in Melbourne and today was a good chance to talk up that promise which is hoped will ease Melbourne's traffic congestion problems around the city. It also provided a handy backdrop for Tony Abbott's big announcement of the day which is that if elected he would introduce an annual infrastructure statement. He claims this deliver as a higher unprecedented level of transparentsy when it comes to meeting targetses for projects, he says it makes sure that words.It will be an implementation statement, it will be designed to ensure that we don't just talk about infrastructure, we actually get it built. I would like to think that should we win the election, I will be known as an infrastructure PM.Tony Abbott wouldn't really be drawn on whether he thought he'd won or lost last night's debate although he was pretty happy I think with the way it went given that he didn't think that Kevin Rudd landed any killer blows. Indeed Coalition headquarters put out a statement within 10 minutes of the debate ending declaring Tony Abbott the winner. On costings he did indicate that still the Coalition intends to release its costings in good time before the election and he also flagged that the Coalition will give more details on its paid parental leave policy within days.The Treasurer Brisbane today campaigning in the marginal seat of Moreton alongside the sitting member for the seat greyment Perrett. They held a media conference a short time ago.Well, today and of course this week the PM will be talking about jobs, investment for the future, our positive plan for the future of the Australian economy. Today as we saw last night in the debate, Mr Abbott will continue to refuse to outline how he will pay for his promises. Last night, again in the debate we saw Mr Abbott dismiss ively say that people will know in good time how he'll pay for his promises. Well, he's been Leader of the Opposition for a long time, he's had plenty of time to prepare his costings, and there's only one reason why he's not be being upfront with the Australian people about how he'll pay for his promises. Mr Abbott has a plan to pay for his promises, he just doesn't want to share it with you because if you know what it is, you are less likely to vote for him. And today, here in Queensland, I've been reminded as I've been campaigning with Graham, with Fiona in Brisbane, just how strongly people feel about cuts to hospitals, to schools, to jobs, to services, by LNP Governments. Here in Queensland, people are living the experience of what a Liberal Government that cuts and slashes means in every day terms. And I noticed this morning we saw Mr Newman call on Mr Abbott to copy him. To adopt the same approach, to not tell the truth to the Australian people before the election about cuts can, but to only do so through a commission of audit after the election which is of course exactly what Mr Abbott plans to do. We've Mr Abbott plans seen here in Queensland the seen here sorts of cuts that LNP Governments engage on, 1 #,000 people people cut from the Queensland public service, cuts to TAFE, 4,000 health care workers axed across Queensland. This is what LNP Governments do. Don't be upfront with people before an election, but only engage on them savagely after the election. Mr Abbott can't have it both ways. He can't say he's going to return the Budget to surplus, he's going to reduce taxes and there won't be any cuts to things like hospitals and schools. This morning of course also we see Mr Abbott in Victoria, with Jeff Kennett praising Jeff Ken eat Administration, well Jeff Kennett made Campbell Newman look restrained. Jeff Kennett of course is still remembered in Victoria many many years later for his savage cuts to school, closing school, closing hospital, sacking public servants. That's not what the Australia needs at the moment. Australia's transitioning out of the mining boom, Australia doesn't need more cut , Australia needs investment, investment in the National Broadband Network, investment in our school, in our infrastructure, like the Kessels Road and the Main Road. That's what Australia needs, that's what Kevin Rudd's positive plan for the future is, Tony Abbott doesn't have a positive plan for the future, he has a hidden plan for cuts, to services, to hospital, and to schools. Happy to questions. (INAUDIBLE) You be up front with people about where you're going to cut. Mr New man said the public servant of Queensland you have nothing to fear under me and I don't think that's been the experience of public sector workers in Queensland over the last couple of years. If Mr Newman so strongly believes in cuts, to services, and to public servants he could have been honest with people about it before the Queensland election, Mr Abbott strongly believes that, he can be honest with people right now. (INAUDIBLE) We have. We've released a financial and economic outlook last Friday. That outlined our Budget bottom line, it outlined the impact on the Budget bottom line of our decisions, that's been the case, that's been out for all to see since last Friday and as we announce our policies we've been announcing the costings that go with them and they've been allocated for in the economic statement. NaudWe said Government revenues have fallen - sorry the projected Government revenues have fallen, the growth in Government revenues have fallen and we let that flow through to the economy. We let that flow through to the economic to stimulate, to ensure that we're not taking more money out. We could have returned the Budget to surplus early by cutting stronger, by increasing taxes by making stronger cuts to the Budget, we chose not to do that because that would be the wrong thing to do for the Australian economy right now. (INAUDIBLE) The measures we've put in place are investing in National Broadband Network, in infrastructure, these are measures that are important. Of course we've been rolling out policies through our term in office, not just all policies came out in the economic statement. It was about outlining the Budget bottom line, our being upfront with the Australian people about the challenges we face and our plans to return the Budget to surplus (INAUDIBLE) Nobody would doubt how on top of his brief the PM is. I think we can get caught up in details here, I think everybody would think it's perfectly appropriate for all leaders to to have have some notes to debate, press
guide them there, be it a debate, press conference or a speech. I think people are getting tied up in frankly political speak, this election is about the big picture, it's about positive plans for the future. (INAUDIBLE) If you are prepared to call this election one week into a five week election campaign, I would respectfully submit to you that's a mistake. We're in this election to win it. It's tight, it's neck and neck, it's close, sure, we come into this election as the underdogs, I believe we can win this election, I believe we can win Elections aren't it across the country. Elections aren't won by
pulling Elections aren't pulling rabbits out of a ha. They're won by hard policy work by They're won by hard policy by positive plans for the by positive plans for future. (INAUDIBLE) I'm from western Sydney and I can tell you that we have been very clear that we believe the
there should be a study into the possibility of an airport at wilton. That's work that Minister Anthony Albanese has been progressing and I think Minister Anthony that's what the PM is referring to when he referred to the work by Anthony Albanese last night. (INAUDIBLE) I don't accept that. The structural deficit I'm happy to deal with. We've said that we'll return to surplus in 2016-17 with declining terms of trade and Government revenue, that means a structural improvement to the deficit so when you're taking the Budget back to surplus against that circumstance, in terms of the impact on our Government revenue, that is a step towards structural surplus, that is the fact of the matter when you're dealing with a Budget surplus with declining terms of trade, it is a structural improvement to the wutel bottom line. (INAUDIBLE) The steps we've announced the increase in tobacco tax, the efficient sif dividend, they're all measures which apply structural to the Budget. That I go on. They continue and therefore assist in the return to to the Budget surplus in a structure as well as a way. Let's just call the facts as we see it. The Labor Party does not think an increase in the GST is a good idea for Australia. The Labor Party does not support an increase in the GST now or in the future. Mr Abbott could be that clear, Mr Hockey could be that clear. They could say as we do, an increase in the GST or putting the GST on food adversely affects low and middle income earners more than it affects other people. Therefore, we believe it's a bad idea for Australia. Now I think that's pretty clear. Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey could be so clear, I think you'll find they declined to be that clear. They say it's part of the equation. Yaem McBride is a very good candidate for Yaem McBride candidate for the seat of Dobell, she's a local health professional. She's a long-term coasty, she's lived, grown up in that area, lived there and is serving the people of Dobell currently. I believe she has a very good chance, she'll be fighting hard for the seat of Dobell. Cricketers and others are entitled to put their name forward. Absolutely but Emma McBride has a strong record of delivering for the people of the Central Coast and I would hope that the people of the Central Coast would take that into account. (INAUDIBLE) Again we've outlined our plans in our economic statement. It did include an efficiency dividend but we've been up front about the impacts of that. We have laid out our plans, that's what I'm saying about Mr Abbott and Mr Newman, Mr Newman says "copy me.' Copy is not to be up front to say you have nothing to fear before an election but to take a very different approach elected. (INAUDIBLE) I think this PM put in a very solid performance last night. I think the PM clearly outlined his plans for Australia's future, a positive plan for dealing with the end of the mining boom. That's what I wanted the PM to do last night, that's what he did do last night and that that's what he should do in the next debates as wellTreasurer Chris Bowen speaking there in Queensland earlier today. The council of social service says fighting child poverty must be the top priority of an incoming Government. Cassandra Goldie CEO of the council said today there'd been alarming 15% rise in child poverty in the last 12 months. The Australian Council of Social Service is calling for an election commitment from the new Government to address poverty and social issues in the first 100 days of power.Launch of our election platform, called Bold Action for a Fairer Future. Where we set out what we expect to see from a new Australian Government in its - particularly in its first 100 days. There are some very specific asks that we've got. Tax reform is always a fraught exercise. I think if you look to both the major parties, you will see that there have been deep struggles when it comes to landing seriously good tax reform. In our view, the Henry tax panel recommendations are absolutely the blueprint for ongoing tax reform in Australia. Without a strong economy, we will not see the kind of action we need in order to reduce the level of poverty in Australia. We've had strong economic growth for Australia and yet extraordinarily we have seen a growth in the rate of poverty across the community, one in eight adults and one in six children are now living below the poverty line.Cassandra Social Service line.Cassandra Goldie there
are the Social Service speaking earlier
today. South Social Service today. South Africa's
Government Social Service speaking earlier
today. South Government says Nelson
Mandela's health is slowly improving. Mandela's improving. The former President remains in a critical condition in hospital, he's been in hospital, he's receiving treatment for more than two months now for that recurring lung infection. Mr Nelson Mandela's youngest daughter has told the media her father's skin improving and he's now able to sit up for a few minutes at a time. Well with Mr Nelson Mandela in hospital in a critically ill condition, international focus has shifted to the nation he fought to create. Violence remains common place, unemployment is out of control and the ruling ANC Government is accused of rampant corruption. Tonight 'Four Corners' reporter Matthew Carney goes to South Africa to try and understand the forces that threaten to to pull the rainbow nation apart N a moment I'll speak to Matt about what he found there but first a clip from his story.The world's largest platinum mines orpts here. It's wealth that's meant to benefit all South Africans. What happened here has betrayed Mandela's famous words before he was jailed for life in 1964 for opposing the apartheid Government.That's a small clip from Matthew Carney's story tonight on 'Four Corners'. Matt joins me now. Welcome. Just go into detail for us about that clip that we played there?That was a site of a massacre which the first anniversary is coming up this week at Marikana. It's kind of seen as the turning point in contemporary South Africa. You had black police for the first time open fire on their own, killing 34, return turned the ANC, people against it, it's quite a pifle the event.How has that played out since then, has the ANC lost a lot of power?They have. Traditionally the ANC had about two thirds of the vote and what's happening now you have
particularly in the youth where you have one in two out of work, is you have this large disenfranchised youth who don't know where to put their political loyalties. They believe the ANC hasn't delivered for them. They're corrupt but there's no viable alternatives coming up so you'll see next year, which is next election is quite a scaling back next scaling back of the ANC vote from traditionally two thirds perhaps to even, once they get below perhaps to below 60% they're in real perhaps to even, once they get problems.The below 60% they're in problems.The ANC was the body that Nelson Mandela rose to the problems.The ANC was the presidency through, so what has that Nelson Mandela rose gone wrong with that presidency?I
organisation since his presidency?I think it's a classic case of as a liberation movement and they fought for decades movement decades for freedom, they had a single purpose and a clear purpose and what happened now in Government largely they've been a one party state in Government, and I think -Power corrupts?Ultimately. What you see now, corruption is endemic. It's all over the police place, starting right at the stop. Jacob Zuma has been dodging corruption scandal after corruptional scandal. The latest one with his nourt shows a bridge too far. There's been $30 million of State funds to revamp his house.What do you think Nelson Mandela would think of the South Africa that has evolved since his presidency?It's a question I put to a lot of people and obviously and what they say is you might be happy with something, sure there's political freedom, but corruption, definitely not happy with and secondly the sense that the liberation movement was about liberating the poor black majority. Now they haven't been liberated. You have 18 million people under $2 a day. One in two out of quork work in terms of youth. That's what people tell me he'd be bitterly denied with.Is there a real sense there among the general population of the extent of corruption in South Africa or is that just seen as part and parcel of the society?It's both. Literally every day when we were there and looking back through the archive, there's corruption scandal that breaks in the news which is a good thing, they say that's a good thing, we know about it, it's there but the follow-through is the critical thing and that's not really happening at the moment. The population are getting fed up but we're at this critical phase where viable alternatives haven't really emerged. You do have the democratic alliance but that's largely seen as a left white party and there's other little groups King but so far to challenge that incumbentsy of the ANC it hasn't really surfaced.Is there interparty violence in South Africa between the ANC or domination by the ANC of other groups that are planning to challenge them?No, not so much anymore. There was previously, what you get now is internally in the ANC because they're all jostling for the top job, the presidency of the ANC and thus the country. So you have all the factions now lining up for next year and you just had a blood letting a month before - a month ago now a week we arrived one of the senior we arrived contenders which we've
interviewed for we arrived one of the senior interviewed for tonight's program.Do you get the sense program.Do that outside help is program.Do you get the that outside help you need that outside help is needed,
you need some body like the to you need some body like the UN
to send people in there independently to send people in there to things and tell the people of independently take a look at South Africa just how things and tell the people South Africa just how bad the South Africa just situation is, or will they realise through the process of an election next year about just how bad the situation is?I think the greatest tragedy for South Africa - and this is what people told me - is that that's a very, very wealthy country. It does have the mineral wealth for all and that hasn't happened. Their economic model and I'm talk about the ANC's hasn't provided for it. It's they
enriched a very, very few, what they call black diamonds in South Africa. So the idea was that we will keep labour cheap and stable, in that you will give us the in term of what was the white sort of economy, we'll give you some ownership in that but essentially that just hasn't happened. You've got a tiny elite and the vast majority which is the danger for the country that are angry, disenfranchised, are calling for a second revolution. They don't know what and that's the real problem with disability.It's like the ultimate betrayal of the revolution that preceded them, they're the very people who should have been spreading the wealth among the millions?Absolutely. Some men were courageous liberation that put everything on the line and then what you see now and what people are seeing is why they're so kind of dispart about them is that they've enriched themselves to tune of billions.What did you get, a sense of the security level around South Africa when you were there, we often hear stories about how dangerous it is just living in Joeberg, presume ply you were there for a couple of weeks or a month so, what was your sense about the security situation in South Africa?It's a reality. Crime is ever present. To be on nest Johannesburg there's not much what
between the shanty towns and what people like to call the gold cages which is where the elite live in these kind of palaces which have 20 foot high fences and razor wire and there's a few malls and stuff but there's really not much. Every time you leave the gold cage and this is what people tell me you got to lock your car, when you come to an intersection, you might get car jacked. The stats are appall, there's a one in three chance that a female will be reined in that country. It's not situations where you thought 'gees this is a a bit dodgy, better get out of here?"Not seriously. We did up at Marikana and this is where the miners haven't really benefitted at all. There's a lot of anger there so us coming up in as white folk they don't really understand yes there was resentment and at one stage potential violence but we had to obviously extract ourselves before it escalated.Look forward to the story tonight on 'Four Corners', cheers.Thank you.

two sit-ins by supporters of ousted president President Morsi within 24 hours. The protests have frightened residents and sparked violence. People are still out in force and rights groups fear more bloodshed is inevitable if police storm the camps. In a middle class district of Cairo this is the largest of two pro-Morsi camps that the interim government wants cleared. In a built-up area against determined protesters it's a high-risk operation. One retired general told Al-Jazeera that the security services have never been trained to deal with this type of urban confrontation. TRANSLATION: You can use water cannon and tear gas, but if that doesn't work you have to esculate things using bird shots or live ammunition. That would be a disaster because on the one hand they're not thinking strategically and on the other they're there to die for a cause. That's a recipe for disaster. Egypt's security forces have already shown their willingness to use deadly force. More than 250 people have been killed since Morsi's ousting. TRANSLATION: Every time they've engaged with protesters and we've documented all of this, it's resulted in violence and the loss of life. In fact, what ended up happening was the systematic killing of protesters such as what happened in front of the Republican Guard and in NASA -- Nasser city. When making its calculations, Egypt's interim government knows the world is watching. It also knows that more bloodshed risks creating more determined opposition. The people that live around here want normal life to resume. The problem for them and the security forces is that with every passing day the fortifications inside the camp are strengthened as is the resolve of the protesters living in there, making it almost impossible to clear the site peacefully. Workers at the Fukushima nuclear plant have told the ABC that contaminated water has most likely been seeping into the sea ever since that disaster two and a half years ago. Japan's nuclear watchdog has described the situation as a state of emergency and the Government has finally stepped in. Workers say another accident is inevitable if the company remains in Mark Willacy reports Fukushima. Mark Willacy reports from
Fukushima. We have to meet in Fukushima. We have to secret, because if this Fukushima secret, because Fukushima nuclear worker was caught speaking to me he'd pay a high price. caught speaking to me a high price. TRANSLATION: If Tepco knew I was speaking with you I'd be fired for sure. Speaking out is an act of suicide. Mr Fujimoto works in the decontamination program at the Fukushima plant. He works 12-hour shifts for which he's paid just $10 an hour and he's watched as Tepco has failed repeatedly to stop the leak of radioactive ground water with 300 tonnes of it leaching into the Pacific every day. TRANSLATION: We work at the most dangerous place in Japan and the other day steam came building,
out of the reactor three building, but Tepco didn't tell us. I heard about it on the news after my shift. It's not just radioactive water leaks and mystery steam pouring from the plant. Earlier this year, a single rat managed to short out power to pools cooling thousands of used fuel rods. Even those supervising the Fukushima clean-up can no longer hide frustrations with Tepco. These actions indicate that you do not know what you're doing and that you do not have a plan and that you're not doing all you can to protect the environment and the people. The Fukushima plant is just a few kilometres up the coast through the seam ist. That's where radioactive elements sea every day. It has many Japanese calling for Tepco to Japanese be sidelined and for outside help to be brought in to tackle this crisis once and for all. Suzuki-san is a 12-year Tepco veteran and former Fukushima site foreman who says leaks of contaminated water into the ocean are nothing new. TRANSLATION: I believe it's been leaking into the ocean from the start of the crisis. Tepco probably knew this, but did nothing because they didn't want to cause an outcry. As contaminated water leaks out, Japan's Government is pumping more money in to stop it. But Tepco, despite its failings and its cover-ups, is still in charge of what Japan's nuclear watchdog describes as a serious emergency. Let's check tomorrow's weather now with Vanessa O'Hanlon. Cloud around the south-east is associated with a rapid-moving cold front heading towards the Tasman Sea and also an associated trough is causing gusty northerly winds about parts of Queensland and into NSW. Damaging wind warnings as high up as the Mid North Coast in NSW and also flood watches for parts of Victoria's north-east and northern Tasmania. Another cold front will move over the south-west and we'll see rain heading towards Tasmania and into the south-western parts of Victoria by tomorrow night.

Top stories today - the Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is continuing to stress Australia must be prepared for the end of the China-led resources boom. He's made a multimillion dollar pledge to begin retraining manufacturing workers, while the Opposition Leader has been promoting the Coalition's $1.5 billion funding pledge for Melbourne's east-west road link. The Australian Council of Social Service says fighting child poverty must be the top priority of an incoming government. ACOSS has released its list of proposals for the next 100 days of Federal Government. Sandra Gouldy says 13% of Australians are living below the poverty line, including one in six children. Funerals have been held for the victims of a volcanic eruption in Indonesia. Six people died when the volcano erupted on the weekend. Rescue workers have been battling to evacuate thousands of people from the small island. Road blockages effort. South are hampering the Government says Nelson Mandela's health is slowly improving. Government says improving. The former
president has been Mandela's health is slowly improving. treatment for more than president has months for that recurring president has been receiving
treatment for more than infection. months for that infection. Mr Mandela's
youngest daughter infection. youngest daughter has told media her father's condition is getting better slowly and he's able to sit up for a couple getting better slowly and able to minutes at a time able to sit up for a minutes at a time now. During a Federal campaign, even a less than great than great debate can generate controversy. The Liberal Party is accusing Kevin Rudd of cheating because he took notes into the contest. The accusation has overshadowed the only real news from the head-to-head - a pledge on gay marriage. Greg Jennett reports. So, who was the winner? It's for the Australian people to decide. They'll sort that out. It was a great opportunity to present some positive plans to the Australian people. I was happy to have that chance and I look forward to further debate. An amicable end to a somewhat unremarkable hour. Surely four weeks before an election he can stop being evasive about where the $70 billion worth of cuts to jobs, health and education would fall. The people at home who are watching this deserve better than a cheap scare campaign from the Prime Minister of this country. The debate was unscripted. The rules said no notes, yet Kevin Rudd arrived with them. It's important for our democracy we have debates. He read from them. Under my prime ministership I offer a new way to secure Australia's future. And he left with them. Tony Abbott was note-free all night, and just in case you missed it. Not for Tony Abbott was the need to have cheat sheets like this so he could get through the Prime
debate. The problem with the Prime Minister last night was not that he was reading from notes, it was more that the notes weren't worth reading. That was the problem last night. The debate threw up only one new policy idea. Within the first 100 days of a re-elected government a bill would come forth to legalise marriage equality. A future Coalition partyroom could allow a conscience vote, but whatever position Mr Abbott might hold a conscience vote, but after a re-elected Rudd Government, his conscience after a Government, his conscience is clear. Government, his clear. I support the existing position. I pride myself on being consistent and I intend to be consistent. As week two whirs into action, Tony Abbott will not be unhappy with his position. Newspoll has the Coalition four points ahead after preferences. Labor's primary vote appears to have softened, not an encouraging sign for Kevin Rudd when campaigns are all about building momentum. Let's cross to our Political Editor Lyndal Curtis who's joined by today's political commentators Dr Richard Dennis, executive director of the Australia Institute and former ACT Chief Minister and CEO of beyondblue Kate Carnell. Welcome to ABC News 24. If we can start with postgame analysis of the debate. Is the fact we're talking about what's being dubbed notegate mean neither leader landed a killer blow on the other? You're absolutely right. It was might be
fairly boring. The big winners might be all of the television suggesting
networks that at one stage were suggesting that they all wanted to have debates themselves and we wanted to have debates every week. I think they'll all be now saying, " Isn't it good we're not going to have lots of debates". I don't think it was great for viewers. Richard, do you share the same view? Why Yes,
do you think that happened? Yes, the stations would be pretty happy they've got their secondary channel they can don't
broadcast these things on. I don't think people that set out to watch the debate - I think a lot more people would have started watching it than finished watching it. It's part of the risk adverse approach to politics these days. No-one wants to lose a debate or make a gaffe, so the safest thing to say is stuff people have already heard before. Kate, do debates change minds? I think they can if somebody really blows it. We've seen a couple of situations like that in the US particularly where a gaffe has caused a very real problem. But I think Richard's right, that everyone is so safe. The rules are so I suppose constrained on whether you can have notes or not ends up being the debate is really interesting. What happened really was that people who like Rudd better than Abbott thought he won by a little bit. People who like Abbott thought he won by a little bit and I think most people thought that they probably wouldn't watch another one. Is it a chance Richard for both leaders to get messages out, and do you think either leader has a cut-through message yet? That's the problem. They've got an opportunity every day to get their message out. We're hearing it. The problem is it On the one
doesn't resonate very clearly. On the one hand things are going pretty well in Australia, so trying to emphasise economic differences when they share broadly similar policies is very hard and clearly they want to stay away from the more controversial issues. So yes it's an opportunity to get their message out, but a debate is supposed to be a contest. A debate is supposed to be a fight and this is kind duelling messages, fight and this is kind of duelling messages, random thoughts that don't bump into each thoughts that each other. Is there a better
format, a each other. Is there a debate?
format, a perfect format for a debate? It's certainly not the one we've got at the moment, debate? It's certainly moment, because Richard's
right. What we saw right. What we saw was prefab I suppose comments where one spoke after the other. It wasn't a debate in a normal sense of what a debate would look like. Maybe we should be looking at some of the formats that US presidential debates have. People standing, walking around those sorts of things. At the end of the day, these sorts of debates are so structured, are so safe, I don't think we're going to see anything more than we saw last night in the future. What we might see on better outcomes is the more Town Hall approach is where the community could ask questions ask and that could produce a better outcome. There was a tiny bit of news. Kevin Rudd made an appeal on gay marriage. We might listen to the responses from both leaders from today. Frankly, in the year 2013, the time has come to put this acrimonious debate behind us. When I meet same-sex couples across Australia as I had in recent years they had a profound effect on my thinking as I discussed the matter with them. It is an important issue, but it's not the only important issue. The priority of an incoming Coalition Government will be to address bread and butter issues, to get cost of living pressures down, to get job security up, to build the infrastructure of a 21st century. They will be our priorities. Richard, the positions of both parties are well positions well known on this issue. Is this one well known this one that will change votes, or will it simply firm up people's ideas on it if this is the thing they were going to vote on? There's clearly some votes in it and a cynic would suggest that's why Labor are emphasising it at this point. But the reality is most people do understand the positions of the major parties. The issue about priorities is a bit of a furphy. The Prime Minister has a whole team of ministers. There's a Parliament that has plenty of opportunity to tackle things. Bread is cheap and butter is cheap according to the CPI, so I think that's an excuse for avoiding it. But at the same time, it's not going to - the election is not going to hinge on same-sex marriage. Kate, what do you think of the Prime Minister raising the issue? He obviously thinks it's a positive, but on Tony Abbott's side for a moment - and I don't support him on gay marriage personally - but you know where he comes from on this, you know what he believes in. That's sort of a positive for Tony. You know what you get. We've seen him for a long time now, we know what his belief structures are. Now Rudd's changed his mind on this and I really think that's fine, but there is a bit of a juxtapositioning there. We know what we get with Tony, we're not so sure what we get from Kevin. I might ask you both, because you're involved in this space in your professional lives about social policy. It's been a lot of focus on the economy, not so much on things like health and housing and homelessness. I did attempt to get a debate up about aged care. Richard, what is missing from the campaign so far in that space? Most of the big issues are missing. The problem is, of course, the economy matters. No-one is going to say the economy doesn't matter and, of course, if the economy was going terribly we couldn't afford to have good health or good education. The problem is that both of them have done the same polling. Both of them have done the same focus groups and just talking about the economy in saying it's a priority is actually different from mapping out a plan and it's entirely different from saying well, what would we do with a strong economy? How would we reform health and education? There's the wholem aslow's hierarchy of needs. Yes we need a strong economy, but actually we've got one, but we've got a whole election debate where we haven't talked about how to distribute those benefits, whether it's or other means. Kate, what do you think is missing so far? Look, I'm surprised that the Labor Party wants to fight an election campaign on the economy. economy has been Liberal Party economy. Traditionally the or Coalition territory. economy has or Coalition territory. If
you're talking or Coalition territory. you're talking who do people
trust or Coalition territory. If you're trust to run the economy, it's never been Labor. All things equal, never been Labor. equal, the Coalition will come out on equal, the Coalition will out on top in the economy and out the Labor Party will on health out on top in the economy and education. So the Labor Party will and education. So it's
fascinating that Kevin and education. So wants to fight fascinating wants fascinating that Kevin Rudd
wants to fight a campaign based upon the economy and not on upon health and upon the economy and not health and education and social issues. health issues. I think it's a huge mistake for issues. I think it's mistake that's what he's doing. The sad bit here is the thing that matter to people certainly are the economy, but underpinning that comes a decent health system and a decent education system and so on. Those things are really well, they're not even on the radar at all. It's fascinating that it seems that the whole issue of refugees is coming second after the economy rather than health, jelt or those things that affect people's day-to-day lives. It's a very weird election from that perspective. Now we will see tomorrow the preelection election outlook, it's the Budget update that comes from Treasury and finance. There's been a debate about costings and when costings are going to be released as there seems to be every election campaign. Richard, for the public's view, do they respond to the debate about costings, or is it only if we see costings from either side and they don't add up that it's a problem? Like the debate, it's easier to lose an election on bad costings than to win an election on good costings. Just before the government
election was announced the government kind of gave us the latest set of accounts. Usually the PEFO that would give us an update, but the budget wasn't that long ago. Compared to the past, there won't be as much news out of tomorrow's announcement as there'd be if we haven't had an update from Treasury, say, for six months. Kate, do you think there's a reality that the pressure will come on the Coalition to put out its numbers after PEFO and should they do so? Oppositions, both previously put our costings close to an election day? That's true, but this time it's important for the Coalition to come out with important for the come out with their costings. Now they'll leave that latish as any party will, but for the Coalition to be able to say categorically that they are the best party to manage the economy, they've got to make their figures balance and not let this $70 billion figure and other things being thrown by the Labor Party get any traction. This is the point where they can show they are the best party to manage the economy. They can come up with figures that work, that don't have holes. Obviously the Labor Party will try to find holes, but credible economic commentators won't be able to find holes. If that's the case, the Libs are a good chance of winning the election. On that note, that's where we'll leave it. Thank you very much for your time. Back to you Joe.Thank you
Lyndal Curtis in Canberra. Chairing that discussion on the day's politics. Time to take a bit of a break from politics now and go to sport with Sacha Mirzabegian. What's been happening on the golf front?It's a good day for Americans, Jason Dufner as on the 95th PGA tournament but Adam Scott was the best placed Australian ending the tournament in a tie for fifth and it was the final major of the 2 the year. With all the details.Dufner had one eye on the prize coming down the last holding a 2-shot lead and it wasn't long before the 36-year-old tapped in for the win.Stoic and spectacular.A triumphant embrace with wife Amanda, the ultimate end to a tournament which slipped through his fingers in 2011.Come back from a couple of years ago and this championship when it lost to Keegan in a play-off to win, feels really really good.Perfect conditions greetsed the field for the final round of the year's final major it was an Australian who led the early charge.Here's Jason Day, made a long birdie putting and nine and got another at 10.The fashion police may have thought twice about this outfit but he got out of jail with they approach on 12, one of the shots of the day. There was hope for Adam Scott, chasing his second major, but the reigning Masters champ was hold and cold around the Green, that bogey on 13 followed by this from the trap on 15 but scots needed the leaders to falter and they did not. Dufner eefs confidence was boosted on the 16th when his sand wedge set up birdie.It's perfect.His only rival became the seasoned Jim Maxwell but critically the 43-year-old put his approach on 18 wild. Two years after a spectacular collapse, Jason Dufner broke through for his maiden major win.A third kraent owner it put
was series from Ian Bell has put England in a strong series. Bell is unbeaten on 105 and the home team has a lead of 202 with two days to play.While the Australians have limbed the impact of Cook and Trott, Bell's taking a heavy toll.A 20th Test match hundred for Ian Bell. He is in life.He knows his game very well, he's very patient and he's tough to bowl to, you've got to try and create something.In his first Ashes only
series in 2005 Bell averaged only 17.It's been only 17.It's been enjoyable this time to score some hundreds and maybe put to bed some of the stuff I've done in the past.Early in the day Rogers departeded for 110. Lusty hitting from Harris gave Australia a lead of 32 before the innings endseded on a farcical note with Harris walking in the middle of an English review and Tony Hill left to correct another of miz mistakes. Harris routed Root with one of the balls of the series, pitching straightening hitting the top of off sthump. The pace man on a role collecting koo and tempting Trott.He's given.The contrasting stiels of Bell and Kevin Pietersen produced a 106-run stand. Bell's insides edge or 37 was painful for the tourist was was the sight of Watson limped off. But Lyon lifted spirits. Harris hurried up Bell.Well bowled. He hut Bell down.Bear stow became Lyon's seconds victim but with Bell unbeaten and England 20 the run runs ahead Australia will need early scalps on day four.In the NRL tonight the Bulldogs take on the Titans at Meantime
Sydney's Olympic stadium. Meantime the Broncos Justin Hodges went down early against the Dragons yesterday, an Achilles injury ending his season and much of next year two. Brisbane went on to win. In the other game yesterday, two tries from Brett Stewart made the difference as Manly beat the Warriors 27-12 to move back above Melbourne into third on the ladder. And of course, the North Queensland Cowboys, they beat Penrith 36-4.In the AFL, the Bombers Dustin Fletcher looks certain to spend some time on the sidelines for a clash in yesterday's match against the Eagles. Fletcher was cited during the fourth quarter of yesterday's loss to West Coast. James Hird is Essendon coach says the investigation into drug use at the club is continuing investigation into drug the club is continuing to
affect the players, the Australian sportses Anne doping agency hand down its report last week and the AFL agency hand last week and the AFL is preparing last week and preparing to announce sanctions. Jamaican superstar Usain Bolt has reclaimed his 100m world title at the world championship in the Moscow. The result moves Bolt one title closer to American legend Carl Lewis's record world championship haul of 8, the 26-year-old 100m and 200m world record holder who also has six Olympic titles can equal that mark if he retains his 200m title and helps Jamaica win the 4 by 100m relay and Manchester as claimed its first trophy of the season defeated Wigan 2-nil in the community shield. Manchester United did a lot of damage and the man who did that for them was Robin van Persie, he scored twice as United beat Wigan 2-nil at Wembley and the Red Devils had another winner think
congratulating them.Well I think if they dedicate their win to me, I dedicate my win to them. For me, it's just great to hear the first match of the season that they won and I know that van Persie scored two goals so happy that he started out on a positive note. So I'm just looking forward to the rest of the season to watch them hopefully I get to see a game before I go home. My favourite player of all time is Zi in, da in ee and right now it's Cristiano Ronaldo disglmplts has goods taste.Isn't he the guy who head budgeted someone.In a final against Italy. Can't remember why player it was. But it's a shame he gets remembered for that buzz he was a fantastic player for Juventus there.We'll forget the het but the. An adventure company has been fined $18 o,000 over the its role in the death of a Melbourne school teacher swept out to sea on a sufficient camp at Bells Beach in Victoria in 2011. 40-year-old Paul Simpson was snorkeling with a group of year 10 students from Shellford girls grammar school when he became caught in rough seas. He suffered a heart attack and couldn't be revived. West Coast adventure pleaded guilty to failing to assess the conditions, and failing to have proper safety equipment. The county court sitting in Geelong found the company had no prior convictions and its directors were genuinely remorseful. Several major publishers have failed a complaint against restrictions imposed on Apple by a US court. Apple's been found guilty of conspireing with publishers to fix the price of E books bought from iTunes. A US court ordered the technology giant to terminate its deals with five major publishers and allow other E book retailers to sell to iPad and iPhone users for the next two years. Let's take a look at business nows now and Michelle Newcrest has posted an interesting profit result?It has. The mining firm says the sharp deterioration in its global gold price is to blame for its loss. It's a for its $5.78 billion full loss. It's a huge turn around loss. It's a huge turn from its $1.1 billion profit in from its the previous year. The company from its $1.1 billion profit has reported asset the previous year. The has reported asset writedowns has reported after $6.23 billion. after $6.23 billion. Newcrest says lit cut expect says lit and no final dividend will be paid. But the news hasn't affected Newcrest affected Newcrest shares which are up more than 5%. Meanwhile, the new chairman of the Minerals Council of Australia says the business community is fairly cynical about the election promises being made by both major parties. Andrew Mitchellmore is also chief executive of the Australian managed and Chinese state controlled mining group. He's told radio National breakfast the politic rhetoric now dominating the campaign is likely to change substantially once a clear winner emerges. And the share market is pushing higher in lunch time trade -

The building minerals firm James Hardie as posted a strong rise in its quarterly profit owing to the gradual housing market recovery in the US. To interest three months to the end of June, James Hardiey has made 142.2 million US dollars after tax. That's up from its $68.5 million US profit from the same period a year ago. It's underlieling first quarter profits which excludes compensation payments for asbestos victims and tax adjustments rose 19% to $52 million US. And David Jones will transfer the management of its electronics division to Dick Smith electronics from October. The company's having signed an agreement to change the branding of DJs electronics departments to David Jones electronics, powered by Dick Smith. Television, computer, tablets homefies, audio visual and other digital products will be clused. David Jones staff will also be transferred to Dick Smith. And Joe, that's the latest from the finance desk.Thank you Michelle. Let's check tomorrow's weather now with Vanessa O'Hanlon?Cloud that we're seeing around the south-east is associated with a rapid moving cold front that's heading towards the Tasman Sea. And also an associated trough is causing very gusty northerly winds about parts of Queensland and into NSW. Damaging wind warnings as high as the mid-north coast in NSW and also flood watchers for part of Victoria's north-east and also throughout the northern parts of Tasmania. Another cold front will prove over the south-west and we'll Sydney rain heading over towards Tasmania and into the south-western parts Victoria by tomorrow night. Around the country for tomorrow - And that's pretty windy in Sydney right now, return up to 70km/h. Stick with us, we have Bill Shortenen coming up soon from Darwin. This program is not captioned. This program is not captioned. This program is not captioned.

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