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(generated from captions) Welcome back to Today. Research released today by the fropgs reveals teachers are being forced to break up -- Federal Opposition reveals teachers are being to break up Facebook fights between children as young as sick while teachers are running two Facebook accounts, including one hidden from mum and dad. Tony Abbott joins us now. Why the sudden interest in Facebook?It's not a sudden interest. In February of this year, I set up an online safety working group. Today we're releasing a discussion paper and we're proposing a new system for stronger takedown orders so that online bullying, the kind of online intimidation that we've seen, can be significantly and substantially reduced.Have you sat down personally with your daughters to get a bit of a lesson on Facebook and how it all works?They haven't given me a Facebook tutorial as such, but certainly they are very conscious of online bullying. It's something that goes on. It's something that really affects a lot of young people these days, because young people spend a lot of their time online.On the subject of abuse, Catholic Archbishop Cardinal George Pell said this week that if a paedophile or a murderer admits their crime in confession, then it should remain secret. Priests effectively shouldn't take that info to police, but they should, shouldn't they?A few points on this, if I may, Ben. Look, child sexual abuse is an absolute evil. It's got to be stamped out. Tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people have been seriously impacted by this and this Royal Commission, I think, is an opportunity for us to get to the bottom of it and to heal. Now, as you know, Ben, I take my faith seriously. I hope I would never abandon my faith but, as a member of Parliament, my duty is to the public, not to the Church.OK. I heard the NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell clearly say this week that if someone admits to something like that in confession, the priest should take it to police. Do you agree with the NSW Premier?Well, I think people have got to obey the law and as far as I am aware, at least in NSW, there are mandatory reporting requirements for these things. Now, I think it would be in the best interests of the churches, as well as in the best interests of victims and the best interests of our society more generally if every institution that's been caught up in this, including the churches, have a full disclosure, no cover- ups rule. I think that's got to be the by word. No cover-ups, full disclosure.Hear, hear. Julia Gillard's past is back in the news. The 'Australian' newspaper has reported claims that a union official deposited $5,000 into her personal account after being given the money by her then-boyfriend Bruce Wilson, in 1995. Here's what she had to say following that claim. Do you remember getting the $5,000 from Bruce Wilson?I've just dealt with the nature of these smears. Does 'unsubstantiated' mean 'untrue'?There's no allegation in today's 'Australian' of wrongdoing by me. This is smear pure and simple.Does the PM need to answer that question?Ben, I think all of us would like to give the Prime Minister the benefit of the doubt here but she's got to give us her side of the story. At the moment, what we're hearing is what union officials at the time who were trying to get to the bottom of this fraud, of this slush fund - we're hearing their side of the story and, look, Ian Cambridge is a union official or a former union official of very high repute. We've heard one side of the story. Let's hear the Prime Minister's side of the story as I said. People would like to give her the benefit of the doubt but she's got to tell us what she thinks really happened.OK. Christmas party invitations have already been sent out. Have you received yours yet from the Labor Party?Look, funnel -- funnily enough I understand I figure strongly on the Labor Party's Christmas invitation, but I don't think they want me to come to their party. And, in any event, it's quite an expensive party, I believe. How do you feel about being the Christmas Grinch?Well, look, um... This is the Labor Party yet again revealing its relentless negativity, isn't it?The Coalition invite, interestingly, says, "People need to be mindful that any damage to furniture, venue, goods on the night will be at the cost to the person responsible." What kind of shindig are you planning?Look, our parties are always exciting, never a dull moment at the Coalition Christmas party.I hope there are no walls being punched. We'll leave it there. Mr Abbott, on to something else - the polls are at record lows for you this week. Only 27% of voters think you're doing a good job. That's got to be a hit to the confidence, surely?Yeah, Ben, look, I always thought that the polls would narrow as the election drew near but, come polling day, I'm very confident that the Government will be judged on its record, not on its spin.OK. The negativity factor keeps on coming up for you. Someone has had some fun with this at your expense on YouTube. I think you'll like this. Take a look.How does it happen. You're nodding your head or annoying a thorough bred, or running till you thought you would burst, you've sure got a thirst. A hard-earned thirst needs a big cold Shandy and the best cold Shandy is Tony. Tony bitter. You know how it happens. You're gutting a fish or ditching a witch, or trying too hard to come first, you've sure got a thirst. A hard-earned thirst needs a big, cold Shandy and the best cold Shandy, Tony, a long, cold Tony. It can come at any time. You're making a vow or carving a you could. As a matter of fact I've got it now. A hard-earned thirst needs a big, cold Shandy and the best cold Shandy is Tony. Tony bitter. At least you can smile, Mr Abbott. Well, Ben, look, I think there's a certain element of humour in all of that and I guess it's one way of reminding people of all the various things I've been doing over the last 12 months or so.Fair enough. Really quickly before I go - really, really quick one - Julia Gillard revealed that her partner, Tim Mathison, draw as bath for her when she's had a tough day at Parliament. What do you do for Margie after a tough day?It's nice to have something fantastic to go home to, isn't it? I'm not going to go into our family secrets, OK, Ben?OK. We'll leave it there. Have a good weekend. Always good to talk to you. Thank you so much, Ben.The Federal