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(generated from captions) proud of this book in 10 years time. You're not prepared to

time. You're not prepared to concede John Howard will make a better PM?

The Australian people get it right.

Mark's doing everything to suggest

they did get it right. Is what

surprised you most about his

diaries? The attack on Kim Beazley,

I think that's very very wrong,

I think that's very very wrong, very unfortunate and it just doesn't

square with the Kim Beazley that I

know. For example, I was very

know. For example, I was very close to Kim Beazley over the period when

the contest between him and Mark

occurred, the election contest for

the leadership. I spoke to him

the leadership. I spoke to him many times over that period. I was one

of his key supporters and at no

stage then or at any time did he

give me any inkling of any dirt

give me any inkling of any dirt file or any issue about Mark with

or any issue about Mark with respect to sexual harassment. I find - I

think this is nonsense. Mark is

making a mistake on this and other

occasions of believing corridor

gossip. Parliament House is a hot

house, it's full of gossip. Mark

house, it's full of gossip. Mark is treating it seriously. It seems

treating it seriously. It seems that Labor's greatest vulnerability on

this has been identified by Peter

Costello, that it says a lot about

your judgment? Look ultimately,

political leaders are not saints,

they're not robots. We make

judgments about who we put in

leadership positions. The Liberal

Party had people like Alexander

Downer and John Hewson and Billy

McMahon lead them. Sometimes these

decisions don't turn out as we hope

and expect they might. We'll move

on from that. The real pity is

on from that. The real pity is that it's occurring just at the time

it's occurring just at the time when we've finally got back on the front

foot. The Government's in a

shambles about Telstra, it's under

great pressure with its extreme

industrial relations agenda. So

there is a real sadness that Mark's

attack is occurring at this time.

But keep in mind this Barrie that

But keep in mind this Barrie that in six months time, Australia will

six months time, Australia will have a soaring foreign debt a growing

skills deficit, major problems with

infrastructure. We'll still be

having a privatisation process with

Telstra and John Howard will still

be pursuing his extreme industrial

relations agenda, but Mark's

comments will be a distant memory,

comments will be a distant memory, I can guarantee you. At what point

can guarantee you. At what point did you begin to suspect that all was

not quite right with your leader?

Look, with any leader there are

always issues and concerns because

nobody is perfect. There are no

perfect politicians, there are no

perfect human beings. But when was

it, though, was it his failure to

respond to the snarmy, his

self-imposed exile when it refused

to take phone calls from the acting

leader. When did the alarm bells

start to go off in your head?

When I had a discussion with Mark

after the election that led me

after the election that led me going to the backbench, then I was

concerned about his view for the

future direction of the Labor Party

and I took the decision to go to

and I took the decision to go to the backbench as a result of stha. I

think to be fair to him, the real

concerns occurred in his behaviour

after the election, not before. I

think there was much to be praised

about his performance as leader

during 2004 and I think we should

during 2004 and I think we should be careful not to throw everything out

just because of the fact that he's

just because of the fact that he's I think engaging in a pretty

unfortunate attack on many people

unfortunate attack on many people in the Labor Party and the Labor Party

as an institution. There were good

things about what Mark brought to

politics. I think it's very sad

that he's trashing them and I think

he'll regret this down the track.

We read this morning that Bob

We read this morning that Bob Hawke said of Kim Beazley that, "Though said of Kim Beazley that, "Though he would make an absolutely

would make an absolutely outstanding PM, he says he's not good as Leader

of the Opposition because he

of the Opposition because he doesn't have the tough, nasty streak.

have the tough, nasty streak. " That comment's been made before and

I think ultimately Kim is a caring

decent person, notwithstanding

Mark's comments and I think the

crucial thing about Kim Beazley

that's remarkable in Australian

politics is that most Australians

think that he cares about ordinary

working people, that he cares about

what happens to people. That is a

huge asset and it's central to what

Kim Beazley is as a man. Are they

vastly different roles, though,

Leader of the Opposition and

potentially PM? There are

significant differences between

significant differences between them and time will tell as to whether or

not that is a major issue. Kim has

shown I think the toughness with

shown I think the toughness with the reshuffle, with some of the

decisions that have been taken with

the creation of the strategy group

and a much more focussed and

disciplined approach than perhaps

might have been the case five, six

years ago. I think he's performing

very well as Opposition Leader.

We're competitive in the polls,

we're competitive in the Parliament.

When the broader circumstances are

pretty adverse to us, and I think

this stuff with Mark will pass.

Well I read this morning you're

going to be at the forefront of

de-Lathamising the Labor Party in

de-Lathamising the Labor Party in a policy sense. What does that mean?

Medicare Gold has to go? Look,

there's a number of issues that

we've got to think through very

carefully. I notice in that

article, the question of schools

funding is raced and so-called hit

lists and the like. It's not a

so-called hit list, there was a hit

list on rich schools? You may call

it a hit list. It remains at the

centre of Labor's funding policy

with respect to schools. As Shadow

Finance Minister I'm committed to

ensuring we get value for money,

that that means taxpayers' money is

being placed where it delivers the

greatest good for the education of

our nation. If that means some

schools get less funding than

aotherwise under the Liberals, so

aotherwise under the Liberals, so be it. Ultimately, these are

it. Ultimately, these are decisions that will be driven by Jenny

that will be driven by Jenny Macklin as the shadow minister in the area

and these decisions about detail

and these decisions about detail are yet to be made. But I do say one

thing, though, I think we need a

change of tone, a change of

approach. Because I think with

approach. Because I think with Mark and these and many other issues

there was always a sense that he

wanted to punish or attack people.

I want to have an education policy

that is uplifting, that is positive

and it is about tackling the big

question. Which is not about the

distribution of public and private

distribution of public and private - which is a legitimate issue - it's

about increasing our total national

effort on skills and on education.

But you're still holding out the

prospect that you will take some

money from some schools? These

issues are going to have to be

determined in detail as we get

closer to the time. We'll have a

new funding round which we'll have

to consider. But ultimately, none

of these schools have got some kind

of guaranteed right to taxpayers'

money. It is legitimate for

political parties to debate about

how much money should be given to

schools and what the formula should

be and how that should be applied.

Ultimately the key questions we've

got to ask are policy questions

about maximising the value for our

nation. We've got a huge skills

deficit. We are well behind

comparable countries like the

comparable countries like the United States and Canada in terms of the

number of people in the workforce

who've got Year 12 equivalent

qualifications. We've got a big

task in front of us. My focus is

task in front of us. My focus is on ensuring that we across the board

lift our performance. The real

choice in education Barrie is not

public or private Barrie. There

public or private Barrie. There are issue there is. The real choice is

we are going to be a nation that

invests in schools or backyard

swimming pools? Finally, what Mark

Latham described as the rotten

rotten cess pit that is life in

Canberra. Does it have to be like

that, or is it like that to all

politicians or only those who go

politicians or only those who go out after dark? There's always an

element of. That it's a highly

intense competitive game. To some

extent it's unavoidable. Some are

worse than others. The mistake

worse than others. The mistake Mark is making is treating corridor

gossip seriously. The sort of

claims he's made against Kim Beazley, you've either got to

substantiate them or ignore them.

substantiate them or ignore them. I don't believe they're correct and I

think numerous other allegations

he's made in his book are corridor

gossip that should not be treated

seriously. It reflects sadly on

seriously. It reflects sadly on him that he regards themselves as truth

whereas 95% of the rumours and

stories that fly around Parliament

House are gossips and rumours and

not true. Thank you very much for

your time this morning. Thanks,

barry. My name is Janet Tomich and I own and run a pet grooming salon with my husband John Tomich in Brisbane. I do not intend to read the Latham diaries because I do not believe in politicians blabbing about politicians' private lives or their private business. When Mark Latham was leader of the Labor Party, I felt that Mark Latham was slightly off the wall and a little bit left-field with some of his policies and attitudes towards the way the country should be run. I definitely think Mark Latham has acted out of revenge