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John Clarke and Bryan Dawe' s take on this week in politics.


KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: Now, it's Thursday. With their take on the week in politics, John Clarke
and Bryan Dawe.

BRIAN DAWE: Joe Hockey, thanks for your time.

JOHN CLARKE: Good evening, Brian. It's nice to be with you.

BRIAN DAWE: You've been on a building site.

JOHN CLARKE: No, no, no just come from the party room, Brian. We have vigorous discussions in the
Coalition at the moment.

BRIAN DAWE: You have been having a rollercoaster ride at the moment, haven't you?

JOHN CLARKE: It's quite exciting at the moment, yes. Never a dull moment.

BRIAN DAWE: Mr Hockey, is Tony Abbott going to be making any more policy announcements without
talking to the party?

JOHN CLARKE: I don't think so, Brian, no.

BRIAN DAWE: But you don't know.

JOHN CLARKE: I don't think so, but no, you are right, I don't know. I mean, how could I possibly
know that? I mean, you know, Tony doesn't know.

I mean, if he does, I'd like to think we'd get a phone call, but no, you can't be certain.

BRIAN DAWE: Did you know he was going to announce this new baby bonus tax arrangement?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, let me be clear, Brian, there was a very, very extensive discussion before Tony
made that announcement.

BRIAN DAWE: So you did know about it.

JOHN CLARKE: Well, what I'm saying to you is that it was preceded by a very extensive discussion.

BRIAN DAWE: That Mr Abbott had discussed it.

JOHN CLARKE: Indeed he had, yeah.

BRIAN DAWE: Right. Who with?

JOHN CLARKE: I've got no idea, Brian, we'd never heard of it. I mean, he must have discussed it
with somebody, and very extensively.

BRIAN DAWE: But how do you know that?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, it was a full policy; a lot of work had gone into it. It was costed, it was
fully expressed.

BRIAN DAWE: And a new tax.

JOHN CLARKE: No, no, no it's not a tax, Brian; we are not calling it a new tax.

BRIAN DAWE: Why not?

JOHN CLARKE: Because it's a tax.

BRIAN DAWE: Well, what are you calling it?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, we've created a new term for it, Brian.

BRIAN DAWE: Well, Mr Abbott is a creationist, isn't he?

JOHN CLARKE: He is. That's not actually what a creationist means...

BRIAN DAWE: Well, what are you calling it?

JOHN CLARKE: We are calling it, Brian, an "investment in human capital".

BRIAN DAWE: What does that mean?

JOHN CLARKE: It means nothing, Brian. That's why we created it.

BRIAN DAWE: And it hasn't got the word tax in it.

JOHN CLARKE: No, but let me say clearly about this policy, Brian, this is a victory for all
Australian working families.

BRIAN DAWE: These are the people you care about.

JOHN CLARKE: These are the people we care about.

BRIAN DAWE: And you are bringing back WorkChoices as well.

JOHN CLARKE: No we're not, Brian, we're not bringing back WorkChoices.

BRIAN DAWE: Well, what are you doing?

JOHN CLARKE: No, we're investing in human capital in the work place. That's what we're going.

BRIAN DAWE: Hypothetically, Mr Hockey, if Mr Abbott were Prime Minister, do you think he'd announce
national policy without reference to his own Government?

JOHN CLARKE: Couldn't happen, Brian, and in answer to the second part of your question, I don't
think he'd do it.

BRIAN DAWE: It's not a good sign, is it?

JOHN CLARKE: Brian, look, Tony Abbott is a colourful character. We make no secret of that. What you
see is what you get.

BRIAN DAWE: Yeah, but that it my point, Mr Hockey. I mean, does the name Latham mean anything to

JOHN CLARKE: Brian, look, don't worry about us, we've got a plan for this election and it's going
okay. Look at the polls - we're gaining.

BRIAN DAWE: Okay, Mr Hockey, you are obviously going after the women's vote, younger women.

JOHN CLARKE: We are going after everybody's vote. We want everybody to vote for us.

BRIAN DAWE: But Tony Abbott shifted to women, hasn't he? He's out of the smugglers into the baby

JOHN CLARKE: Well, pretty important demographic, women!

BRIAN DAWE: So who's going to be appealing to men?

JOHN CLARKE (in a deep, macho voice): I dunno, Brian, I don't know, I've got no idea, mate.

BRIAN DAWE: Beg your pardon?

JOHN CLARKE (still in deep voice): No, I've got no idea. What you doing Saturday, Brian?

BRIAN DAWE: I don't know.

JOHN CLARKE: Do want to come rabbiting?


JOHN CLARKE: Yeah, shagger and ball bag and I'll pick you up around seven.

BRIAN DAWE: No thanks.

JOHN CLARKE: Can you bring your dog? We'll need a dog - big dog.