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Welcome to the program. There was a ceasefire in the Parliament today after yesterday's agenda battle, a vitriolic debate over sexism and the fallout of the Peter Slipper scandal. Today, back to more subdued and predictable political turf with the carbon tax and economy dominating questioning. It was Anna Burke's first Question Time as Speaker and she exercised her authority a couple of times, including the -- including throwing out Christopher Pyne. We will have full analysis of Question Time and the reverberations of the gender wars. My guests today, the Chief Government Whip, Joel Fitzgibbon, and Senator Brandis, Rob Oakeshott and my panel, Laura Tingle from the 'Financial Review' and Dennis Atkins from the career mail. -- from the 'Courier Mail'. Tony Abbott says he will accept Peter Slipper's vote if the former Speaker chooses to side with the Coalition. He has refused to soften criticism of the Prime Minister and accused the Labor Government of overplaying the gender card. The Government is defending its handling of the Slipper situation. There is a fundamental difference between Peter Slipper and Craig Thomson. Craig Thomson has been found by a quasi- judicial body to have misappropriated $500,000 in the low paid union members' money. So there is a fundamental difference between Mr Slipper and Mr Thomson. Look, how he vote is up to him, but if he chooses to vote with the Coalition we certainly will be happy to have that vote. Security is being wrapped up in Bali following a threat through intelligence. A group of suspected terrorist are said to be planning VIPs who will be attending the event. They are preparing for the threat -- the event and following the people involved. Authorities remain confident they can make the event secured. The threat comes ahead of the arrival of Julia Gillard, John Howard and Tony Abbott. They are working with the Indonesian Government to make sure security measures are taken. More than 1500 security personnel will be deployed. A psychiatrist has told the inquest into the death of a Brazilian student in Sydney he believes the youth was in a psychotic state and terrified when he was tasered by police. These graphic images show Roberto Laudisio Curti being tasered 14 times in March. He had taken the drug LSD the night before.

Dr Jonathan Phillips says someone in that state needs to be settled down rather than stirred up, but he stopped short of criticising police, saying they could not have done a mental health assessment. Two Qantas jets have had in the MS in the Northern Territory after a air- traffic controller accidentally put the aeroplanes on a collision course. What happens?Good afternoon. Last Tuesday October 2 in the afternoon the two Qantas flights had been the MS over the skies of Darwin not far from here at Darwin International airport. The first was a Qantas Link flight flying from Alice Springs to Darwin with 115 passengers. The second flight was a flight from Darwin to Melbourne, 155 passengers. It is believed an air traffic controller from the Royal Australian Air Force put the two flights on a collision course. It seemed it may have happened when one of the automated systems indicated one of the flights was a Hercules, which sorts -- causes some issue in the logging of planes, meaning it couldn't be seen on some radar screens. The on- board detection systems on those flights discovered they are to -- they were 250 m apart. Indications were that they were just 247 metres apart. One flight landed and the other continued to Melbourne. There is an investigation under way and an investigation by defence. The air traffic controller involved has been stood down. About 150 pensioners have rallied at the State library in Melbourne saying the pensions aren't enough to cover the rising cost of living. Sky News reporter Matt Galant was there. Pensioners who gathered here in Melbourne are calling for a fair go. They say the current pension payments aren't enough to survive with rising costs including food, transport and utilities.It is very hard to live if you don't have a very good nest egg. You always have to chip in to beat. If you haven't got one, you are stuck.Pensions -- pensioners are calling on the Government to improve public transport and guarantee access to health and aged care services.We are a very rich country and we can afford to insure that workers, pensioners, after they have given so much to this country, they deserve dignity in their old age. They need a fair income, they need to ensure they can move with dignity after contributing so much. The State opposition voiced their concern, calling on the Ted Baillieu Government to meet after the valley, with organisers to discuss the concerns.The Government should meet today with the delegation and hear from you what your concerns are.Following the rally pensioners boarded a tram down Swanston Street to join the remaining days of the pensioners Festival.

A 14-year-old girl has been shot in the head by Taliban gunmen in Pakistan. She was seriously injured in the attack. Malala was on her way home from school.TRANSLATION: She was going home from school on the school bus, but on the way to men stopped the bus and one of them had a pistol. He stepped into the vehicle and asked where it Malala was, and he shot her.The US has denounced the attack as barbaric and cowardly. David Cameron has pulled out of the race to coach the New Zealand Warriors, heightening speculation Craig Bellamy may be heading there. Craig, everyone obviously goes through these situations, contract negotiations, whether you are a player or a coach. Craig has been instrumental not just for us as a club but for me personally. I haven't had any other first aid -- first grade coach and to be honest I wouldn't like to.Meanwhile Johnathan Thurston says there is still an ace -- there is still a spot in Mad Monday despite the controversy with the Bulldogs.It is all about having fun but doing it in the right manner. One incident can't tarnish the whole competition, because we have a whole lot of great players that are doing the right thing in the community. I think the boys can certainly have a drink in the right frame of mind.He and the other Kangaroos are in Townsville ahead of Saturday's test match against New Zealand. A look at the weather forecast:

Kieran Gilbert in Canberra. As I mentioned at the start of the program, the gender battle - there was a ceasefire today as the fallout continues to reverberate from yesterday's vitriolic exchanges in the Parliament. This was a light-hearted moment today in Question Time.He is a good bloke, yes.The leader of the house described him as a bloke. I put it to you that if I were to describe someone on the other side of the house as a Sheila, I would be described as sexist.If you dig continued through Question Time, but it reverted to more subdued, predictable politics - carbon tax and the economy. Anna Burke, the new Speaker, did exercise her authority a couple of times.And the organisation...He will resume his seat. The manager of opposition business will resume his seat! The manager of opposition business will leave the chamber under 90 4A! The manager of opposition business continues to ignore my calls. I had asked him to resume his seat. The attorney general on a point of order.Anna Burke giving us a sense of what we can expect with her speakership. Coming up on the program, the Deputy Opposition Leader, Senator Brandis, and Independent MP Rod Dasher Rob Oakeshott. Mr Fitzgibbon, thanks for your time. Today things went back to the traditional turf of carbon tax and the economy. Do you think it was a ceasefire in the gender battle?The first thing I would say is that all things are relative. For the first time today, anyone looking at the Galleries would find it unbelievable that it is peaceful. From the Government's perspective we are pleased to get back onto the big issues that are important to the broader community. What is your sense about the way that this week so far has played out? There is obviously not a good view of this place in the electorate. Those leaders are very unpopular. Has this week been good for anyone, or does it just further diminish the Parliament in the eyes of the voter?I won't kid anyone by trying to claim good out of this. I have been saying for some time that the hung parliament is creating chaos. Whenever the Parliament is chaotic, it reflects on us. No one could say that we can take anything good out of this week so far, but we are continuing to pursue the legislative agenda and that is a good thing.Before I move on - you and Anthony Albanese do a lot of corralling the troops and getting the numbers across the line. The effects of yesterday make that effort more precarious, don't they? It makes life harder for us, but Mr Slipper wasn't voting before and that has been the case for some months. Mr Slipper will vote and we will have to wait and see, but it could be that Mr Slipper might choose to vote more often for the Government and the Opposition. If that's the case the Government will benefit from the change.Are you concerned this might pose an existential threat for the Government?I don't. I think Peter Slipper will establish himself as a true independent, he will vote on merit. That will be a good thing for him and the Government. When you take a serious, objective look at our agenda, I would be confident in him coming with us.The Prime Minister's speech has attracted criticism for Epoque was the, attacking Tony Abbott in the past few weeks, frontbenchers and the Prime Minister attacking Tony Abbott for being sexist and guilty of misogynist behaviour and yet yesterday voting in support of keeping Peter Slipper where he was. It has been a different view online. The online reaction has been quite different. How do you think this will play out in the long-term? Will it be perceived as a strength or hypocrisy?People in the broader community who are going online don't necessarily agree with the analysis of the Canberra press gallery. Peter Slipper has been charged with nothing, just some outstanding civil matters. We have some investigation into Cabcharges. I don't think that was a hanging offence. The Prime Minister made it clear she did not approve of the text messages, which were originally determined to be private. I think she has been enormously consistent and I think she has performed very well.What about the suggestion of hypocrisy because of the claims of misogyny is on the one hand, of Tony Abbott, and get the Speaker, who has been guilty of the graphic text messages, is supported?The alleged misogyny of the former Speaker relates to private text messages. Tony Abbott and others use misogyny to attack the Prime Minister for political gain. They are very, very different things.Some of the things the Prime Minister referred to yesterday, standing in front of signs and so on, they were largely... Were they in Mr Abbott's control at the time? There is debate about that.The signs, the protests, including that outside Mr Abbott's offers, they are part of the political discourse. Peter Slipper's text messages were private and unfortunately became public.You mentioned before a bout those watching and observing this online might disagree with the Canberra press gallery, but is that the Government's hope? The Prime Minister has been able to communicate with the electorate directly - we are able to see an online reaction to the Alan Jones case. This might provide momentum for her.she has the added benefit that the moment of a strong use of social media, including Twitter. She is using that to great effect and I think that is what you are seeing in the online comments. She is getting the message out there very well.Joel Fitzgibbon, thanks for your time. A quick break and we will be back on PM Agenda.

This is PM Agenda, thank you for your company. To the Coalition, I spoke to the Deputy Opposition Leader, Senator Brandis, which covered a number of topics including the criticism of the Coalition against the government when it comes to the Craig Thomson matter of accepting his tainted vote. The Coalition says it would be willing to except Mr Slipper's vote. This is my interview with Senator Brandis. Thank you for your time. Can I start by asking you about the apparent rejection that you will accept Peter Slipper is vote that you have been critical of Craig Thomson's vote being accepted. I think there are two differences. As Abbott hundred -- pointed out today, he continues to be a person of interest and a complete investigation and has ready been found by Fair Work Australia to have misappropriated nearly $500,000 of union members money. Mr Slipper, regardless of the loathsome nature of his conduct in a text in with James Ashby, it is not stand accused by the commission of a crime.Thompson hasn't been charged with anything.As recently as last week, he continues to be a person of interest.The same can be said of Mr Slipper in the sense that the AFP has related the alleged misuse of the Cabcharges... They have. But they have been finding against Mr Thompson by Fair Work Australia. But important difference. A second difference as well. The context in which we called upon the Prime Minister not to accept Mr Thompson's vote was to expose the sincerity or the insincerity of her claim that she trucks amount of the ALP. You will recall that earlier in the year in her famous line has been crossed press conference she said she was stamped onis spending his membership of the ALP. She continued to except the vote. If she was genuine about throwing Mr Thompson out of the ALP, she would have demonstrated that genuineness by Gnostics that think -- why not accepting his vote.Where is the genuineness on the Coalition side when you demand the withdrawal of Peter Slipper...Well, that may explain. We actually didn't throw Mr Slipper after the Liberal Party, he ratted on us when he cut a deal to become the speaker over the bleeding political carcass at Harry Jenkins. The people in Fisher voted for a conservative. They want their representative to be voting on Tony Abbott in the Coalition's side of these questions and House of Representatives.And constituents in Dobell?That is true. The difference is that in this case Julia Gillard went through the solemn farce at pretending to throw Craig Thomson out of the Labor Party, but she still takes the benefit of his vote.After the outrage yesterday, and the Coalition moving that nation, you are still willing to quite happily accept Mr Slipper's vote?Our view is that Mr Slipper is not a person who should have been Speaker because his conduct showed he did not command the respect of the House of Representatives. We are absolutely at that you that he was the wrong person to start with. When the text messages were revealed last week, it was as plain as can be that he was not the right person to occupy the most solemn and dignified office and House of Representatives. He remained a member there.You are an experienced lawyer and you talk about a cause a traditional body. There are criticisms...A thorough police...There were a lot of criticisms, that none of those criticisms suggested that the finding that the key finding that Thompson had misappropriated nearly $500,000 was not a reliable find. There has been no legal pursuit of that at this time. I'm just trying to get to the difference between that and the Slipper matter. The seemed to me still live cases.I have made the two points quickly in summary. There hasn't been a finding of conduct against Slipper. He continues to be, Thompson continues to be a person of interest in a live from the investigation. Gillard, the Prime Minister, went through the pantomime of throwing Mr Thompson out of the ALP so she couldn't be said to be relying upon his vote and get she still does. This Slipper, he walked out of the Liberal Party.If the Coalition had really wanted Peter Slipper removed yesterday, that was the outcome last night, but why did you spring it on the Parliament? Instead of seeing to talk to the crossbench and let's build a consensus on this issue. It was spring at the start of Question Time. It seems that was endorsed the view that it was a stunt as opposed to a valid attempt to have the Speaker removed.I can assure you, and I'm not a member of the House of Representatives, but I can assure you, having discussed it with the senior leadership there that we thought that this was the right thing to do. This was the first Parliamentary opportunity to raise this matter...To spring it on the Parliament and announced?To raise the matter. It was raised at the appropriate time of the day. The debate was had and the vote was taken. Ultimately, and I am sure to a large extent it was because of the debate that took place earlier in the day, Mr Slipper realised that he had no choice but to resign because there was no way he was ever going to command is specked at the chamber again.Let's look at the other suggestions you make around the Attorney General. The text messages, notorious messages, send between Mr Slipper and Mr Ashby at the same time that she was critical of Tony Abbott for not repudiating Alan Jones's comments. Surely these are two very separate matters? One is evidence before a court and proceedings are ongoing, the other a public comments reported by Mr Jones...They are not different in the sense. The fact that these were, this text messages came to the public attention is not mean that there is any question mark hanging over them. The authenticity was never an issue. The reason Mr Slipper ultimately resigned was because he was so ashamed of them. He confessed to being the author of this text messages. It was absolutely not an issue about the authenticity of the text messages. The fact is that the Prime Minister and senior ministers like Nicola Roxon and Tanya Plibersek and Anthony Albanese and others have shown it to be rank hypocrites because they condemn Tony Abbott for somehow not been strong enough in his language against Alan Jones at the very time they knew that the person who they were politically protecting, Peter Slipper, was guilty and responsible for comment much more vile and offensive than the offensive words that Alan Jones at it.Why can't you be critical of both? Which they have been...They haven't been. They voted to keep Peter Slipper in the chair. That is the difference, Kieran. In one breath that is It was an argument about process. It wasn't an argument about process. Are you going to set the precedent of bringing down a speaker when is alive court proceeding in the way - - underway...Text messages were undisputed. Mr Slipper's conduct is undisputed. The Labor Party, led by Julia Gillard, after these pious homilies a bout misogyny and sexism and so on by their very conduct decided to politically protect a person whose conduct was much worse than anything Alan Jones said. Would you expect the Attorney General to divulge evidence that she is privy to was a court case and process is ongoing?I wouldn't expect the Attorney General to make public something that she knows only because of the court process and which the court had not yet made public, but what I would expect the Attorney General is integrity and consistency. When Nicola Roxon went out on Monday morning after Alan Jones's apology on the moaning -- morning of 1 October, and tried to link Tony Abbott Alan Jones, she knew, even though it wasn't a matter of public knowledge at the time, she knew that Peter Slipper or is responsible for much more vile, sexist and misogynistic behaviour than Alan Jones.They have all conceded... Who has endorsed the text messages? There one.They conceded that by their vote. Their conduct in the House of Representatives yesterday. They tried to protect Mr Peter Slipper and by doing so, they condoned his conduct.Respect the legal process and the Parliament. ICal it is not about the Parliamentary process. The question is could you have...

We said no, the government said yes. The Parliament and the public couldn't and shouldn't have confidence in him because of the vile nature of his misogynistic behaviour and by voting to protect Peter Slipper, they condoned what he did, even while protesting that they won't.Thank you for your time. A quick break on PM Agenda. When we return, Rob Oakeshott and our panel today the 'Financial Review'. Laura Tingle and Dennis Atkins from the Courier-Mail.

This is PM Agenda. Coming up, independent Rob Oakeshott and our panel Laura Tingle and Dennis Atkins. First, the headlines in the Sky News Centre. The row over Peter Slipper is resignation has dominated debate in Canberra. Tony Abbott has confirmed he will accept a Slipper's vote if he chooses to side with the Coalition on a particular issue, but the Opposition accused the Prime Minister of playing the gender card too often. Leader of the house Anthony Albanese denied the ALP had a hand in Mr Slipper's resignation. Security is being stepped up ahead of the 10th anniversary of the Bali bombing after authorities received intelligence about it terrorist threat to Australian politicians. The have received reports a group of suspected terrorists are planning to target VIPs who will attend the event. The threat comes ahead of Julia Gillard, John Howard and Tony Abbott's arrival in Bali. More than 1500 personnel will be deployed around Bali ahead of the commemoration on Friday. The inquest into the death of a Brazilian student in Sydney has been told Roberto Laudisio Curti was in a psychotic state and was terrified. Doctor Jonathan Phillips says someone in that state needs to be settled down. But the psychiatrist stopped short of criticising police. The footage, shown at the inquest, shows him being tasered up to 14 times. Two Qantas jets have had a near miss after an air traffic controller accidentally put the plane is on a collision course. The incident happened last Tuesday when a flight carrying 115 passengers and a flight carrying 155 passengers reportedly came within 250 m of each other. The air traffic Transport Safety Bureau and the Defence Force are investigating the incident. A teenage activist in Pakistan who gained worldwide respect for championing education rights for girls has become the latest victim of the Taliban. The 14-year-old was shot and suffered a bullet wound to her head and neck after a militant opened fire while she was on a school bus. The Taliban was quick to claim responsibility for the attack. The activist was last year nominated for the international children's peace prize. The Kangaroos have been put through a tough contact session today in Townsville as they ramp up preparations for this weekend's test against New Zealand. Johnathan Thurston says he is looking forward to playing against a home crowd. A look at the weather forecast:

Welcome back to PM Agenda. The context of last night's resignation by the Speaker, the former Speaker, Peter Slipper, has gradually emerged. And the decision came amid pressure from the crossbench, Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, who went to Peter Slipper and said the support would only last so long and they would back the Government in defending him yesterday that he would have to stand down, that they would withdraw their support unless he quit. I spoke to the Independent, Mr Oakeshott, earlier today. Thanks for your time. Did you advise Peter Slipper you would vote having him removed as he did it himself?I expressed my view and there were long conversations yesterday. In the end he drew his own conclusion and took a difficult decision with an ounce of dignity and I think that is much better than a slaughterhouse on the floor of the Parliament with a motion that nobody knew about in the Coalition. I don't think that is a precedent that should be set.What is the main reason you did not support the Abbott motion? Was it not to give Tony Abbott a scalp? Not at all. I think the question of whether the Speaker has become untenable wasn't in question. With some of those text messages that came out in the court process, the position was very unlikely - it was unlikely the Speaker was going back in the chair. That was added to when just under half the Parliament moved a motion of no confidence against the chair. That adds to the untenable nature of the position, do I as a member of Parliament then do the grandstanding, political head kicking and try to bashing out of office and set a precedent for future Parliament, or do I talk to the man directly and talk through the options like adults? And try to get some dignity out of the process? That is the path I took. You did that with Tony Windsor?Yes, the two of us talked about the range of options, whether the position was untenable. Once we drew the conclusion that it was untenable, we approached Peter Slipper and talk through the issues with him and allowed him to draw his own conclusion.What was his conclusion?He is a human being and he was under pressure, the full range of emotions were on display and that only added to the importance of action being taken by him and I'm really glad he did. Anyone who watched him standing in the Parliament and making his speech at the end of the day, hats off to the bloke in a really difficult circumstance, without knowing the history of what's going on or what is before the court, to stand up in Parliament and do that is difficult and he did it with dignity.Did you and Tony Windsor to that of your own volition?Yeah, well, I can't speak for Tony Windsor, but I always do things that I think are right for the community and country. The situation was no different.How would you expect the new backbencher to vote? Do you think the Government's instability remains?The numbers on the floor of the house remained... I will be watching to see how Peter Slipper votes, but he has rights to vote on behalf of his Sunshine Coast or Flinders electorate, and I would expect that now, without being bound by the office of the Speaker or by any particular political party, he will vote in the best interests of the Sunshine Coast. You were expecting to have a vote of confidence in the Government? That is difficult to know, but if anyone is trying to read where people land, it will be in the interest of his community and that is how it should be.You spoke about the hopes of the part -- for the Parliament, a better discourse. You must be disappointed with the outcome?Look, there are lessons learned, but we have achieved a lot in this parliament as far as Parliamentary reform within the nature of an adversarial system. Private members are more than ever before, private members bills are getting through more than before... What about the tenor of the debate yesterday, it was brutal.We have had a flat patch for the last few weeks, this bizarre gender war that is going on. Hopefully today can be a circuit breaker and we can get onto the issues of importance for the nation that will be around for 40 or 50 years. We can be engage with the Australian community in the Parliament and the people's chamber -- we can re-engage. That is up to individual MPs, I can't control that.When you say it is a bizarre gender war, do you think the Government is overdoing this? Do you think the Prime Minister has been a victim of sexism in her role? Eleanor I do and I think the evidence trail is there.-- I do and I think the evidence is there. I don't think they should position Tony Abbott as the one who will eat the firstborn child of every family if they are female. I hope we can get through that soon, because Frank we not a lot of it matters as far as the standard of living for Australians in the next 40 or 50 years. That's what brings me to this building.If we look at the contradictions on both sides, there was a contradiction on the Government side yesterday when four weeks have been sent Tony Abbott is a misogynist and they yet they argued in defence of Peter Slipper. That won't pass the pub test, will it?I don't think anyone's hands are clean. There have been disgraced the comments made by people within Parliament, associated with Parliament and people who comment on the Parliament, and it is one of the flat spots we have it. Whether it is because not much else is going on, I don't know. Whether people are looking at the polls and trying to appeal to women, I don't know. I hope we can get back to real issues that matter.Tony Abbott said he was oblivious to comment made by others when he said the Government should die of shame yesterday. Do you accept Tony Abbott's explanation or should he have been more sensitive to recent events?To be honest I don't really care. That is part of the flat patch we are in, we're overcooking certain things. It is uncomfortably close to what was said by media commentators outside the chamber and comments that were disgraceful, but in the end, is it going to be an issue that is here this week and gone the next? Identities. Will it contribute to the standard of living for Australia's, I don't think it is. That is where my head is.Did you consider yesterday putting your head -- putting your hand up for Speaker?Now, the fix was in. Anna Burke has done a great job and I think she will do a fantastic job. It is of value to have someone from Labor and the National Party. My interest is lifting the standards of Parliament, not lifting myself into a higher offer.Think you for your time. Time for a quick break, then I will be joined by Laura Tingle from the Financial Review and Dennis Atkins from the Courier Mail. Stay with us.

Welcome back to PM Agenda. Joining me now is the political editor Laura Tingle of the 'Financial Review' and Dennis Atkinson the Courier-Mail. The gender battle is still simmering away.It was really clear in question time today. On the lighter notes, there was Christopher Pyne saying that the word bloke was sexist. There was a sharp edge to it when the Leader of the Opposition said the Prime Minister across the table at she was a piece of work. She asked the Speaker to get him to withdraw, which he did. There was still an edge there. People are still just trying to make out that actually happened yesterday and how it has played out in the electorate. Almost retreat into the trenches, Dennis?Setting back a bit. I don't think either the government or Opposition really knows what impact yesterday has had in the community. We have seen some of the more immediate impact from online stuff and angry voices going from one side to the other side, but I do not think that either side have a real handle on that and how the general community has reacted to all of this. They are stepping up its gingerly, which is what usually happens after genetic and camera. The next day is all a bit, what happens there? We saw hypocrisy on both sides after yesterday.

Julia Gillard defending Slipper... How do you see this playing out in terms of the electorate?A think both sides were caught flat-footed yesterday. The government didn't anticipate what happened in the Parliament. That is why you saw Anthony Albanese and others scramble to see if they would let the motion go. Also, I don't think Tony Abbott thought through how the Prime Minister was going to react either. I watched him pretty closely during a speech and he looks like someone who wasn't sure. When you think back to what Tony Abbott did with his wife and his family at the end of last week when he invested an enormous amount of time and effort into softening his image, and to then give the Prime Minister a platform to go Helford ladder at him to 20 minutes and call him every bit of sexism and misogyny and everything he was trying to get away from, I think a lot of the good work that he did for himself over the weekend was under. Now, how that plays out will depend on his behaviour. I think he got himself into a fight where he didn't really know what is opponents was going to pull out of her weapon armoury.An interesting point. Laura, we discussed before air at the comments by Tony Abbott where he said you need to move on from this the gender war.I suppose this is were one of those things where people think it has gone too far. Certainly, it doesn't really help Tony Abbott. This ultimately is about moving votes. I suppose I sense is that all that has happened yesterday is that the lines have been dug and even more firmly than they were. If you believe Julia Gillard is adjourned -- dreadful woman and Tony Abbott should be premised, you believe that three times more after yesterday. In the same on the other side. It might have been better for the Prime Minister in the sense that she lost a lot of women voters who became disappointed with some of her positions on issues when she became Prime Minister. They have been coming back. This might really bring a lot more back. Those who think good on her for standing up to this. But I think moving on from it, I suspect it suggests that Tony Abbott thinks that this is probably at a point where we cannot keep going. It is damaging him and you have to argue that what she did worked. And he wants to be discussing something else now. Dennis alluded to the online reaction. It has also been an international reaction. We will put up on the screen some of the reports and Jezebel.com. The big website in the United States. The link to the Gillard story has had 200,000 lakes on Facebook alone. A huge reaction. There is a new article in the New Yorker and the UK Telegraph, largely confirmatory, to say whether this... This largely supportive reaction, different from the mainstream media, how that plays out in shifting the votes that borrow a virtue. Whether it will not.I am not sure it will have a great the -- deal of factual stop it does reinforce entrenched position. It is interesting that the Americans and especially that piece you referred to in the New Yorker where they are saying that why can't Barack Obama be feisty and go into the kill like Julia Gillard it. it seems like Julia Gillard we get a better boat in America, and Obama would get a better boat here.They also said that they really liked it because they think their own Congress is especially boring. It is colour and movement that they are going for more than actual substance of the argument.And interested to know whether a not this permission -- diminishes it in this Parliament. You said it has entrenched both sides, and ministers are to meet recently that people are yearning for a debate above this fray. Apparently covenant last night was walking around like a Cheshire cat. He might be seeing this as an opportunity to him. Kevin Rudd. They said it might damage the Prime Minister more in the sense that the office shouldn't be going into the fray. I think a lot of people would forgive her doing so once Tony Abbott used that shame line yesterday. I think that gave her a licence to go there. You are left with a lot of politicians screaming at each other in a very unattractive fashion. I think people really are sick of it. Just going back to the social media things, there is a real nasty toned the discussion on social media a Twitter and all of those things. How the media are have missed the story about how important her speech was and everything. It is reducing it to a soap opera of it. There are still question of the numbers in the Parliament and how the government uses them and gets them. And Peter Slipper's role in that. To the people who only had an issue about women being attacked they missed that point. It is about who is running the country and to have the numbers and how to get them.Or there was a procedural arguments yesterday, it underlined all of it.This place is all about the politics. The Opposition were trying to shame the Prime Minister and trying to associate Peter Slipper's appalling text messages with the Labor Party and with the government. One of the first things I was taught when I first came to Canberra to report on politics was that if there was uproar in the house, the government loses. Over the years, that has been more true than not. I think in that sense, there was a downside to the government yesterday. I think there was also a downside to the Parliament generally, that is probably why Tony Abbott today talked about moving on. I think the public say that this is not what we put you there to do. We put you there to look after the important business of running the country, not to have the screaming matches a part all of this stuff that we are not interested in.Dinner seconds, from the Courier-Mail Laura Tingle from the 'Financial Review', a project to inside. That is all the PM Agenda. The news is next. Live Captioning by Ai-Media www.ai- media.tv