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PETER CAVE: Ali is a medical student, and he has been fighting with resistance forces in Tripoli
for months now.

They have been launching sporadic attacks on Gaddafi forces since April.

He hasn't slept for three days since the uprising in the capital began in earnest.

I spoke to him a short while ago.

ALI: All of the people, you know, everybody, we went to the streets. We close our streets by using
block and stick and anything you can imagine we used it, okay, so nobody can get to our area.

PETER CAVE: There are reports in the last little while that the presidential guard has surrendered.
Is there still resistance?

ALI: Yeah, there is some people lost, you know? They don't know what they do. They don't know
what's happening. Is Gaddafi in jail now? Has he left Libya? Has he died? Nobody know so they are
driving their cars and firing on the people in the street.

Now you heard the fire - there is a car, we get this car, so we killed them right now.

(Sounds of gunfire)

You can hear, you can hear.

PETER CAVE: That's going on in the background now, yeah?

ALI: Yeah, yeah.

PETER CAVE: Where exactly are you?

ALI: I am in the Bin Ashur if you know this area - Bin Ashur, its near Fashloom. He sends his
people, if you heard his speech about five hours ago. He said that you have to take action against
these criminals, as he describe us. He describe us criminals, he describe us as rats and some bad
words I can't say for respecting the people who will hear us.

Now everything is under control except some areas they are firing on people and we will take action
immediately against them.

PETER CAVE: When do you think it will be all over?

ALI: Nobody can say when it will be over because we don't know how many there are in the street,
but we have communication with other areas. Our neighbours you know, in the Fashloom and Djerba,
this is big areas in Tripoli.

Okay, so we contact each five minutes we contact each other, we tell them what is going on with us,
and we knew if any cars passed or they are doing anything. So we hope that over soon, very soon.

PETER CAVE: Gaddafi has said he is prepared to negotiate directly with the head of the National
Transitional Council. Do you think that will happen?

ALI: Gaddafi will not negotiate. You know, he is mad, you know? He thinks that he is a god. He is
not a person, not a human being. He is a god. He thinks that, so he will not negotiate.

How will he negotiate with rats, as he describe us? Where is Gaddafi now? Who is the rat? Where is

We didn't kill anybody who surrendered. We have four right now in custody. They surrendered and we
took just their guns, and we protected them and we promised them that they will face a good

As I told you, there is some people now try to... They didn't know that Gaddafi is over, you know,
as I told you.

PETER CAVE: And you're convinced it is all over?

ALI: They are lost. Yeah, Gaddafi is over - 100 per cent. We took over his sons, three of his sons
in custody right now. You know, we faith Islam and Sadi and Mohammed.

PETER CAVE: Do you know where Gaddafi is?

ALI: We think Gaddafi will kill himself right now. As rebels right now, we don't know where, but I
believe Libyan intelligence, they know where his place, maybe he's in the south. He wants- We hear
that he want to enter Algeria. Some people said that he is still in Tripoli.

We will catch him soon if he didn't kill himself.

PETER CAVE: Ali, a medical student who's been fighting with the resistance on the frontlines in
Tripoli over the last three days.