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A coalition of teachers, principals and parents say Julia Gillard's plan to post school's literacy
and numeracy results online is a serious risk to school communities. The group wants the education
minister to back away her plan to post the results from next year, saying that would allow the
naming and shaming of schools in league tables.

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KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: Julia Gillard calls it transparency, a coalition of teachers, principals
and some parents says it's a serious risk to school communities. The group wants the Education
Minister to back down on her plan to post school academic results online from next year, saying
that would create a sense of naming and shaming schools in league tables. Ms Gillard says she's
determined to press on, confident she'll win the political argument.

The Government's persistence on another front might be about to pay off, although they're not so
confident of the politics there. Indonesian authorities say the 56 asylum seekers remaining on the
Oceanic Viking will disembark tomorrow, more than a month after the embarrassing saga began. The
Government is refusing to confirm the report, but maintains no special deals have been struck to
get the asylum seekers to leave. Political editor Chris Uhlmann.

CHRIS UHLMANN, REPORTER: The Deputy Prime Minister carries a large lode lightly. But no-one doubts
her steel. She'll roll over resistance she can't talk around, as she did when construction unions
tried to force her to tear down the building industry watchdog.

Julia Gillard's now in the middle of a conversation about education, and there's a long list of
subjects.

JULIA GILLARD, EDUCATION MINISTER (Last week): School transparency, national curriculum, new
resources for schools, a particular focus on those schools that are falling behind and need special
help, new investments in teacher quality and school leadership.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The barbecue stopper is school transparency.

JULIA GILLARD: Our My Schools website, which will give parents, teachers and community members more
information than they've ever had before about the performance of Australian schools. This agenda
is controversial and it's making some people uncomfortable. But shining a spotlight on performance
is something that we have to do as a nation.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The website will allow parents to check a school's performance against the national
literacy and numeracy standards and then compare it with other schools. Among those feeling
uncomfortable is a broad coalition of education groups.

ANGELO GAVRIELATOS, AUSTRALIAN EDUCATION UNION: Well the Government itself may not be creating the
league tables, but it's Government policy which will allow for the creation and publication of
league tables.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The public and private sector education unions, the Parents' Council and principals'
associations have penned a joint level to the minister saying her transparency plan poses a serious
risk to school communities.

So you don't thing providing information on how students are going on writing and arithmetic is
giving parents the kind of information that they would really like to have?

ANGELO GAVRIELATOS: Well let's be clear about this: every parent has got a right to know about the
progress of their child. And we believe, clearly, that literacy and numeracy is fundamental to the
education and well-being of ...

CHRIS UHLMANN: But not about the progress of the school.

ANGELO GAVRIELATOS: Well, unfortunately the measures to do what you're suggesting are not
available, or rather the valid measures, the accurate measures to do what you're suggesting's not
available.

CHRIS UHLMANN: This shapes as a fascinating battle because the Education Union in particular is
used to getting its way. But while the Deputy Prime Minister might lack the support of many
education organisations, she's confident parents will back her.

JULIA GILLARD: We're determined to deliver this new era of transparency, and then we're determined
to build on it for the future.

CHRIS UHLMANN: It was the performance of the Opposition Leader that focused the Government's mind
today, with the Prime Minister determined to revive the ghosts of Question Times past.

KEVIN RUDD, PRIME MINISTER: I have this uncanny sense of déjà vu. When was the last time we had
this Leader of the Opposition stand up and say that I'd misled the House on such a matter? What
we'd had last time was of course the forged email affair around Utegate.

CHRIS UHLMANN: At issue Malcolm Turnbull's pursuit of Kevin Rudd over the deal that persuaded 22
Sri Lankans to get off the Oceanic Viking.

MALCOLM TURNBULL, OPPOSITION LEADER: The Prime Minister has not been straight with the Australian
people. Clearly this is a preferential deal. There are no other refugees in Australia that are
being guaranteed resettlement within four to six weeks. And secondly, he knew all about this deal,
or at least his office did, because they were part of the committee that approved it.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The Prime Minister says he had no advance knowledge of the deal and it was nothing
exceptional.

KEVIN RUDD: The normal application of processes applied.

JOURNALIST: Are you confident you didn't overreach again?

MALCOLM TURNBULL: The only charge of misleading that I have made against the Prime Minister relates
to his claim that a preferential deal was not preferential.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The Government's defence also involved some language gymnastics.

RADIO NATIONAL COMPERE: No-one gets resettled within four to six weeks. I'm not saying it's a bad
thing, but it's unusual.

STEPHEN SMITH, FOREIGN MINISTER: Well, these are special circumstances of a search and rescue
operation.

MALCOLM TURNBULL: This is not just special treatment; this was a gold-plated inducement to persuade
the 78 asylum seekers to leave the vessel.

CHRIS UHLMANN: There is finally some good news on the Oceanic Viking for the Government. Exactly a
month after it picked up 78 asylum seekers in Indonesia's search and rescue zone, it looks likely
that the last 56 will disembark tomorrow. Typically that news comes from the Indonesian Government,
not the Australian, and the Indonesians say that the President's decision to cancel a trip to
Australia at short notice has nothing to do with the recent asylum seeker tribulations.

DINO PATTI DJALAL, INDONESIAN PRESIDENTAL SPOKESMAN: Let me be absolutely clear: we have never
finalised a date. We have thought about having a visit this year. We discussed the possibilities.
But after considering a number of circumstances relating to the domestic issues, the President
decided that he would visit the - he would make the visit in February, and that has been confirmed
directly by President Yudhoyono to Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

CHRIS UHLMANN: And like tinnitus, the Opposition's internal emissions trading static buzzes on. In
the joint party room meeting, 10 Coalition members told Malcolm Turnbull that they would not vote
for the Government's bill, come what may. It's a gift for the Government.

WAYNE SWAN, TREASURER: Those dinosaurs are absolutely intent on smashing our national economic
interests in the Senate of this Parliament.

CHRIS UHLMANN: The Opposition's blocked a motion to extend the Senate sitting hours and defeated
another to bring on the emissions trading debate today. But behind closed doors the two negotiators
are inching towards a compromise. That could be presented to the party room next week. The question
is will Malcolm Turnbull crash through the resistance in his party, or crash?

KERRY O'BRIEN: Political editor Chris Uhlmann.