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Live 8 aims to end poverty

AM - Friday, 1 July , 2005 08:26:00

Reporter: Steve Marshall

TONY EASTLEY: The Live 8 concerts are part of a worldwide campaign called "Make Poverty History".

Australian organisers say the message from it is simple.

One child dies every three seconds because of poverty, and rich nations can do a lot more to help.

Steve Marshall spoke with the "Make Poverty History " Australian Chairman Jack De Groot.

JACK DE GROOT: When the international community has delivered on debt relief in the past we've seen
countries such as in Uganda a greater increase in the number of children who get access to school.

We saw in Tanzania post debt relief in 2000 - 31,000 new classrooms and 18,000 new teachers.

So it's not accurate at all to tar everyone with the same brush, and so economic policy - you have
many African countries who are seeing extraordinary growth and outcomes for those who have been
living in poverty.

But where there are governments, where there has been corruption or still is, where there are
actually unlawful practices and the abuse of fundamental human rights of the people in Africa, then
that also is replicated in unfair economic policies, and obviously the international community, and
the African communities, need to bring their rights to the attention of those governments, and to
confront them with the truth of that behaviour and call for greater and fairer economic policies.

STEVE MARSHALL: So will you be holding aid back from those governments that are corrupt and

JACK DE GROOT: When a place like Zimbabwe, where so many of the population today are facing the
terrors and dictates of the policies that the Mugabe regime, you actually see the churches and many
other civil society organisations or aid agencies support absolutely calling for an end to those
poor policies, those ends to human rights abuses.

So when it comes to the governments actually giving bilateral aid to those governments, well, it's
clear that that aid can only be done if good governance regimes are put in place, that there is the
rule of law, that there is a pursuit of justice.

And in debt relief it's crucial and it has been proven that those countries who have been in debt
and who've got relief have actually improved their governance structures.

TONY EASTLEY: Make Poverty History Chairman Jack De Groot speaking there with Steve Marshall.