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processing, but will the moves to reinstate offshore

Opposition back the plan? The

report frankly calls on all political parties to compromise.? This Program is Captioned Live. At least two

dead in Texas after the third

US shooting spree in a month. Australia's biggest

class action challenges the ANZ Bank's fees in the High

Court. And the athlete stripped

of her shot-put gold for failing a drug test. Good morning. It's Tuesday, 14th

August. I'm Michael Rowland And I'm Karina Carvalho. The top

story on ABC News Breakfast,

the Federal Government will

introduce legislation today to

end the political deadlock over

asylum seekers and reinstate

offshore processing. The

Opposition has yet to say if it

will back the measures to

re-open processing centres on

Nauru and Papua New Guinea. The Greens have rejected the

changes recommended by the

Government's expert panel as

cruel. But the Immigration

Minister Chris Bowen says the

compromise is necessary to stop

people risking death by coming

to Australia on boats. Michael

L'Estrange is a member of that

expert panel and he says Nauru

and Manus Island are just one

not suggesting that the part of the over-Aum plan We're

re-opening of Nauru or the

re-opening of Manus Island in

their own right is sufficient

to address this problem in a

very effective way. We do

believe, however, that when

measures we're proposing here, combined with the other

they will act as a circuit

breaker. Over time, we hope

they lay the foundations for a regional processing arrangement

which will make their continued

use over the long term unnecessary. Michael

L'Estrange, one of the members

of that expert panel. Our political correspondent Melissa

Clarke joins us from Parliament

House. Melissa, what happens

now? What we have is the

Government will today rush in

legislation and what it will do

is allow for a government who

is in power to send asylum

seekers to be processed

offshore and that doesn't

specify any particular country,

but what it will allow is for

countries to be come Nated - to be nominated by regulation,

instead of legislation, and

that means that the Parliament,

the Upper House or the Lower

House, a majority could

disallow asylum seekers being

sent to a particular place.

This for the Government says it

gives the government of the day

to pick and choose the

location, but what they've done

is make it clear that they will

pick Nauru and Manus Island at

Papua New Guinea as per the recommendations of the Houston

panel. Now, the Opposition

whether or not they will haven't made it clear yet

support that legislation, but it's likely they will, because

it gives effect to their policy

of having asylum seekers sent

to Nauru as a first-order

issue. So we will see that come

up today in Parliament when it

starts sitting for the first

time in six weeks after

lunchtime today. The Greens are

remaining steadfast against it,

so they will certainly not be

moving in any way to support

this motion, but it shows how

far we have come in six weeks

which is the Government giving

yet further ground to get yet further ground to get to

this point. So is this a return

to the Pacific Solution? Well,

that's interesting because it

depends of course entirely on

who you ask. The authors of the

report say, no, it's not a

return to the Pacific Solution

and Paris Aristotle who of

course has worked closely with

refugees and torture survivors

has made it clear he feels this

is a different process. He says as difficult as it is to

recommend sending people to

Nauru or Manus Island, he say

it is would be different. He

doesn't want people locked up

behind razor wire. It shouldn't

be a detention-type arrangement. He says the idea

is to give no disadvantage so

it would be no different than

if people were waiting in

Indonesia or Malaysia, but

nonetheless he has conceded

that by doing that, there isn't

a time-frame by which people

have to be processed and taken

off these islands and given how

long people are currently

waiting in Indonesia and

Malaysia for a chance to be a

refugee in Australia, that that

could well mean years spent

could well mean years spent by

people on Manus Island or Nauru

or other facilities, so that

certainly raises the spectre of

something pretty similar to the

Pacific Solution, but Chris

Bowen is saying that there are

some key differences and he

wanted to try to spell it out

not only to the public but also

to come some in his Labor

Caucus when he was speaking

last night, that this would be

different to what we've seen in

the past.

Anybody who arrives by boat

from this moment runs the risk

of being processed somewhere

else. What the report

recommends is that there would

be no advantage in coming to

Australia by boat. Therefore,

that means if you are

classified as a refugee, the

mechanisms, will determine how Government, through various

long it would have taken you to be transferred to Australia.

difference to models that have That is, as I say, a key

been tried in the past. It is a

different model and it will be

controversial and we will have

a deal of work to do to make

sure it's managed humanely.

Paris Aristotle who I would

suggest has done more in the

real world to help refugees

than many other Australians,

recommending that this is

necessary to save lives, then

we adopt that recommendation The Immigration

Minister Chris Bowen. This has

been billed as a regional

solution, Melissa, so how are

other countries in the region

taking this? Well, they're only

hearing of the news pretty much

as the Government was when it was announced by the expert panel yesterday. Julia Gillard,

the Prime Minister, says talks

are already under way with

diplomats with countries like

Papua New Guinea, Indonesia and

Malaysia to try to get this

sorted. We know that Nauru was

waiting for formal approaches

from the Government but in the

past has made it clear that it

could quite easily set up a

facility on Nauru again. Papua

New Guinea has said that they

will offer to host a processing

centre on Manus Island, so

again nominating that location

that has been used in the past.

Indonesia has welcomed the

increase in the refugee intake

recommendations from the that was part of the

Houston panel that the

Government has adopted, so

that's seeing the number of

refugees Australia would take

from Indonesia and from the

region go up to 20,000 and over

the next couple of years up to

27,000, so they've welcomed

that, but they've also raised

concerns about the idea of

turning boats around as being a possible feature of future

arrangements, so a mixed

reaction from the region and of

course this is still being

developed and negotiated so we

will still have to wait and see

how it comes in the wash-out.

But Angus Houston, who led this

panel, made it very clear that

there needs to be more regional

investment and greater regional

cooperation if this plan is to work

work as a whole. What we're

recommending is not only providing more places for

refugees in our humanitarian

program, but also we think

there needs to be more investment in capacity-building. What's

important is that we address

not only the areas around

Australia, we need to have a

strategic approach and also

invest in the source countries

where these people start their

journey. That's Angus Houston

who led that expert panel on

asylum seekers. Melissa Clarke

in Canberra, we'll leave it

there for now. Now with the

rest of the day's news, here is

Michael Rowland Let's go

straight to the United States

and that country has suffered

its third multiple shooting in

a month. At least two people

were killed when a gunman went

on a shooting spree in Texas

over the last few hours. A

police officer is among the

dead and several others have

gunshot injuries. It happened a

block away from the Texas A & M

University in the town of

College Station. The gunman has

been arrested. More on that

story as the morning goes on. Syrian rebels have claimed to

shot down a warplane and

captured the pilot. They've

released a video which appears

to show the plane being hit by

an anti-aircraft missile.

Syrian media says the plane

crashed because of technical problems during a training

mission. In Norway, a scathing

report has concluded that

police failed to act fast

enough to prevent last year's

terrorist attack by Anders

Behring Breivik. 77 people died

when he set off a bomb in Oslo

before going on a shooting

rampage in a nearby island. The

report says it was unacceptable

that police took 35 minutes to

reach the island once alerted.

A verdict in Breivik's trial is

due next week. The Pope's

former butler is to stand trial for stealing private Cornes

from the papal apartments.

Paolo Gabriele has admitted he

was the source of leaked letters published in a book

alleging corruption at the VAT

can. The scandal dubbed Vatileaks has deeply

embarrassed the Catholic

Church. Gabriele has wrip a

letter after polly to the Pope

and faces six years in jail if convicted. A new storm

threatens the Philippines. 3

million people have already

been left homeless and more

than 90 have died. Authorities

in Manila are now evacuating

families prone to landslides as

they prepare for more heavy

rain. Apbz. ANZ Bank's fee also

be the subject of Australia's

largest class action in the

High Court today. Lawyers for

38,000 customers will argue

against payments for overdrawn

accounts, late credit card

payments and fees. The case has

wider implications for the more

than 170,000 customers of eight

major banks. Taking a look at

the markets overnight:

An official report has found Norwegian police could have

done more to stop mass killer

Anders Behring Breivik. He has

admitted killing 77 people. The

inquiry found the attacks could

have been prevented had

previously adopted security

measures been properly implemented by police. Al

Jazeera's Charlie Angela reports. Anders Behring Breivik

was gunning down people on many

Utoya Island for more than a

hour before the police stopped

him. He shot 69 men and women,

most of them teenagers, but now

a report confirms the police

could have stopped him earlier.

In the report concluded that

the police could have also

prevented Breivik's bombing in

Oslo on July 22nd.

TRANSLATION: The commission has

come up with six main findings

and 31 recommendations to

strengthen the readiness and

improve the ability to avert, fight

fight and deal with

fight and deal with attacks. Those recommendations

include improving helicopter

capability. The police were

criticised for their slow

response to the tragedy. More than three hours passed between

the Oslo bombing and Breivik's

arrest on Utoya even though

security services knew

Breivik's name. The crew of

Norway's only police helicopter

were on holiday, and police

were unable to find a boat to

take them to the island. The

report blames communication

problems and failure to follow

procedures. It also reveals how

police security services were unpractised in crisis

management. For the families of

the victims, the fact that

authorities failed to protect

their children on Utoya will

not ease their grief. At least

the man who carried out the killings is in custody. Anders

Behring Breivik's 10-week trial

concluded in late June. He

admitted to the attacks but

rejected criminal guilt. Judges

will have to rule on his sanity

when they deliver their verdict

on August 24th. The President of Egypt Mohamed Morsi has

called on his Egyptians to

rally behind him after he

removed two of the country's

most senior military

figures Since he was elected

earlier this year, Mr Morsi has

been locked in a

been locked in a power struggle

with the those would took

control in the wake of the

uprising. Go away field

marshal," chant the crowds in Tahrir Square. Egyptians celebrating their elected

President's decision to sack

the country's two top generals

and take back the political

power the military wanted to hold

hold onto. President Mohamed

Morsi and field marshal Tantawi were

were locked in a power

struggle. President Morsi

announcing the general's removal was very careful to

keep the rest of the military

on side and the people behind him.

TRANSLATION: To the honourable

Egyptian people, the decisions

I took today were not meant

ever to target certain ever to target certain persons,

nor did I intend to embarrass

institutions , nor can my aim

ever be to narrow freedoms for

those whom God created free. (APPLAUSE)

This is a huge moment for

Egypt and the wider world as

the country's elected President

Mohamed Morsi moves to end the

army's dominant role and to

push forward Egypt's unfinished

revolution. The man chosen only

seven weeks ago to lead the

country has taken two risks,

first by sacking this man, the

head of the armed forces who

hoped to protect military power

and privilege, and at the same

time the President has

cancelled the service chief's

decree which tried to prevent

the new President from

controlling the military and

appointing its leadership. That

decree also dissolved Egypt's Parliament. We have seen an

historic shift in the relation

civilian relations in Egypt,

more tipped to the civilian

more tipped to the civilian

side. President Morsi chose his

moment, days after funerals for

those killed in the Sinai

desert. Egypt's armed fortions

had failed to prevent t the

leadership was vulnerable and

the President struck. Let's

take a look at the front pages of the major newspapers which

are dominated by the pending

immigration overhaul. The 'Canberra Times' calls

yesterday's decision to re-open

processing centres in Nauru and

PNG a return to the Howard Government's Pacific Solution The 'West Australian' says the Prime Minister has

shut the door on asylum seekers

after anunsing all new arrivals

will face indefinite

detention. The 'Advertiser'

reports family reunion rights

will also be scrapped aft the

Government accepted all 22 lem

dations of its own expert

panel. 'The Australian' has

thrown its support behind the

Government's move, but says

hundreds have died while Cabinet wavered. The 'Financial

Review' says the Prime Minister

has used the cover of the

panel's report to climb down

from her previous position 'The

Age' is calling it a laudable,

utterly sincere, but high-risk strategy. The 'Daily Telegraph'

see it is as an embarrassing

reversal of policy While the

'Herald Sun' says the

Opposition Leader is now under

pressure to declare his

hand. Only one paper has a

front page report farewelling

the Olympics. The 'Sydney

Morning Herald' says London ers

are waking up to the inevitable

hangover after hosting one hell

of a party. The 'Mercury'

reports that ratepayers in Hobart have paid for thousands

of dollars worth of private

work done by council workers,

with council machinery, on

council time. And weeks out

from the Territory election,

the 'Northern Territory News'

says Darwin voters have been

kept in the dark about one

Labor candidate's violent

past. It's just emerged the US

gunman has also died. He was

apparently taken into custody

by police. Initial reports were

that he was injured in what

looked like a firefight with

police. We are now hearing,

Karina, that he has died. That

takes the death toll to three.

We also have a number of people

injured perhaps seriously as a

result of what is sadly the

third shooting spree in America

in the space of less than a

month. Well, the Government of

course puts its legislation to

the Parliament today on asylum

seekers after the expert panel

made those 22 recommendations

which the Government say it is

will adopt all of them in

principle. So, we want to know

whether you agree with the

panel's recommendations, and do

you think it will work? Will it

stop the boats coming to

Australia? And therefore stop

lives possibly being

lost? You've seen the details,

the various aspects of the

plan. Over to you. If you would

like to join the conversation,

please do:

Taking a quick look at the

weather around the country:

The top stories on ABC News Breakfast - the Federal Government will introduce legislation today to end the political dead look over asylum

seekers and reinstate offshore

processing. The Opposition has

yet to say if it will back the

measures to re-open processing

centres on Nauru and Papua New

Guinea. Three people have now

been killed, including a police

officer and a gunman n that

shooting spree in Texas. It is

the third multiple shooting in

the US in a month. The

the US in a month. The ANZ's

banks fee also be the subject

of Australia's high est class

action, arguing for late credit

card payments, overdrawn

accounts and dishonour fees.

To a story that really stung

the local share market

yesterday, Australia's largest

steel maker has signed a joint

venture with Nippon Steele.

BlueScope Steel is still

flagging a billion-dollar loss

when the results come out next

week. The deal will target growth. Emily Stewart

reports. BlueScope Steel hopes

an Asian joint venture will

spark a bright future It is a

very smart thing to do, it is

an absolute game-Changer for

our business. BlueScope will

sell half its business to Nippon Steel Corporation for

more than half a billion

dollars. The deal will wipe off

almost all its debt. There have

been significant concerns

around BlueScope's debt

position. The announcement

today effectively removes those

concerns. I think that the

joint venture between Nippon

and BlueScope should also

deliver some synergies. The

combined business will be

headquartered in Singapore and

supply growing Asian markets It

will also facilitate entry into

market segments not currently

accessible to BlueScope such as

steel being bought for

whitegoods bought by Asia's

growing middle class. Overconstruction market. Low

demand from local builder s and

the high Australian dollar is

making imports cheap her and

exports uncompetitive. The company expects to announce a

$1 billion loss when its

full-year results come out next

week, and the growth will week, and the growth will Asia

will not result in more jobs in

Australia as there are no plans

to restart exports. The

offshore businesses are more

profitable and that is generating the cash flow that

BlueScope needs to support its domestic businesses at this

stage. But BlueScope has restructured and cut costs in

the last year, sacking around a

thousand workers and shutting

down a blast furnace and mill.

Last year, around 40% of

shareholders voted against the

remuneration report, so this

year Paul O'Malley has agreed to forego any bonus or pay

incentives. It is a small victory for the company's long-suffering shareholder

whose have seen the share price

fall from $2 in 2010 to a low

of 25 cents in July. To the

markets now:

To sport and Paul Kennedy

joins us. Good morning to

you. Good morning The Games are

over but the ructions

continue. Yes, a big story

breaking overnight. The Belarussian, Nadzeya Ostapchuk

who won the shot-put event at

the London Olympics has tested

positive to steroids. Keen

watchers of the sport will not

be too surprised by this. She

did, at one journalist put it

at the time, throw some

astonishing throws in the

shot-put. Anyway, she beat

Valerie Adams. Belarus has been

ordered to return Ostapchuk's

gold medal. The great Valerie

Adams from New Zealand will now

claim her second Olympic medal.

Adams was in Switzerland

preparing for her next

competition when she was told

the news and earlier I spoke to

Garth Bray, TVNZ corporate, one of the few people who has

already spoken to Adams and

here is that ent view now.

Garth, thank you for your time.

You've spoken to Valerie Adams.

What's her reaction? Quite

simply, she is just astonished,

overwhelmed. She was contacted

by the Olympic Committee at her

training base in Switzerland.

She had to pull over, as she

puts it and have a big blubber.

She was almost hysterical

because she couldn't believe

the news, although she and her

coach had suspected this for

some time really, but they had

to spend the last six or seven days believing she had been

beaten on the field. Let's give

our viewers some background to

this because Valerie Adams is

not only just the Sally Pearceson of Australia, won everything for the past couple

of years, but Valerie Adams has

been doing it even longer and

more dominant. What sort of figure is she in New

Zealand The golden girl, the

figurehead of athletics and the

wider sporting movement. I

guess just because of her composure, her ability to

perform. She is now sitting on

unbroken 25 international meets

stretch. It was only broken, I think, by Ostapchuk, the woman

that has been found out as a

drug cheat today, and before

that, I think she had thrown

about 28 contests before, so a real champion in the sport, obviously the Olympic champion

in Beijing. She was back to

defend that title. She

essentially has locked herself

away in a small Swiss village

for the last two years, away

from family, away from friends and just devoted herself to her

sport and all for that moment,

and I think it was particularly

galling for her to be robbed of

that moment on the podium to

see the New Zealand flag go up

and have the anthem played out.

That is the bit that really

stuck with her. As for now, she

is getting on and focusing on

competing and that will drive her in her performances now. So the Belorussia, Nadzeya

Ostapchuk threw a really big

throw earlier this year which

we can say is suspect now. Just

before the Games, she threw 2m

less. What was the reaction

from New Zealanders who didn't

necessarily want to come out

and scream it from the rooftops

but had suspicions that this

was cheating? There were some

very muddy waters around this,

I've got to say, because there

were some suggestions, I

suppose, or some implications

there that these throws seemed

quite unnatural. As one NZOC

put it, this woman had vanished

into the backblocks for about

six monthses where there was no

drug testing and had come back

looking like a champion, so the

suspicions were there. It is a

bit of a hollow accusation to

throw unless you have evidence

and people were reluctant to

make it look like things were

turning sour on the fact that

the champion had been beaten.

Vam Riyadh dams had gone into

the contest perhaps nine hours

before. She wasn't actually

entered her in the contest. The

New Zealand officials had failed to enter her into her

own championship event, and

that had to be remedied fairly

quickly. And that contributed

to some psychological battering

and some people wondered whether that was part of it. We

know valley Adams will handle

this like a champion, but do

you get the sense that New

Zealand was robbed and mugged

of its great moment, not to see

Adams on the podium with the

national anthem? That's

certainly been the overwhelming

sentiment from most of the

people I've been speaking to

back home and from what we're

hearing on shows like yours,

the run there. There is a sense

that they will try to stage something for her. How long

that will take, though, is

anyone's guess. A previous

Olympic champion, Nick Willis, who was upgraded, promoted to a

silver medal after Beijing, it

took them about two or three

years to get that medal

correctly award ed. The gold

medal is in the firm grasp of the Belarussians at the moment,

and when that can be Prized

free. We hope it won't get to

that moment. Thanks very much,

Garth. The Newcastle Knights

beat Cronulla 26-4 and

five-eighth Jarrod Mullen, and

that moves the Knights into 9th

spot on the ladder, just two

points behind the 8th-placed

West Tigers with three matches

to play. The loss hurts the

to play. The loss hurts the

top-four hopes of Cronulla

which are 27 points #3,

pointing behind 4th-placed

Manly. There you go, Michael

and Karina. One of the black

marks on the Olympics has been scrubbed away, about you there

is a stain there and Valerie

Adams missed out on her moment.

I must say that when I watched

that competition, having

watched Adams for the previous

several years, she has been to

Australia a couple of times,

one of the great champions of

track and field, very much like

Sally Pearson, you're just

waiting for her to win the

gold. When she lost, I thought

it was very, very suspicious

and ux I couldn't help thinking

that in other events that I

watched, so with this positive

test, for me as a sport viewer

and a sport lovering, I feel

like it's OK to disbelieve what

you're watching sometimes. I'm

just glad the authorities

picked up on it, because as Adams has said herself, it

vindicates clean athletes. It

does, and there are so many red flags about this Belarussian

athlete as well, so plain that something wasn't quite

right. Yes. It has been

corrected and hopefully the

Olympic movement, as well as

everything else is better off

for it And she gets the gold,

too, sadly without the national

anthem and the ceremony which

is a bit of a bummer. That's

right. The Belarussians better

give it back quick We should

dust off our Lego for her. Yes,

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this morning, Vanessa Yes, so

far 6mm at Cape Jaffa.

Currently a cold front crossing

through the Bight into

south-west Victoria. Two more

fronts will follow this week

from Western Australia's

south-west and the third front

that's due to hit the south-east on Thursday and

Friday will be much more

powerful with gale force winds, widespread rain, hail and

thunder, and bit the end of the

week, it will spawn another

low. A trough will follow

causing snow along the

Victorian and New South Wales

ranges and we're looking around 25cm for

25cm for the end of the week.

Later today snow levels will

drop in New South Wales and

Victoria to around 1400m and in

Tasmania around 1,000m, but we

can see where that rain band

will move through today. In Queensland:

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Breakfast. Thank you very much

for joining us this morning.

Still to come, there has been

another multiple shooting in

the United States, this time in

Texas. We'll find out more from our North America correspondent

Craig McMurtrie shortly. Phil

Kafcaloudes from Radio

Australia will be hooer to look

at the day's newspapers. And can the Federal Government finally break that political

deadlock over asylum seekers?

We'll be speaking to the Home

Affairs Minister Jason Clare

about that. First here is the

latest news with Karina. Leeing

the new this morning, the

Federal Government will introduce legislation today to

try to end the political

deadlock over asylum seekers.

It will re-in-Tate offshore

processing and on Nauru and on

Manus aye land. The Greens have

rejected the changes and the

Opposition is yet to say if it

will back the plan. In the

United States, there has been a

third multiple shooting in a

month. The r the gunman has

been shot dead after he opened

fire near a university in

Texas. Two others were killed,

including a police officer.

Syrian rebels claim to have

shot down a warplane and

captured the pilot. They've

released a video which appears

to show the plane being hit by

an anti-aircraft missile. In

Norway, a scathing report has

conclude that police failed to

act fast enough to prevent last

year's terrorist attack by

Anders Behring Breivik. 77

people died when he set off a

bomb in Oslo before going on a

shooting rampage in a nearby

island. The report says it was

unacceptable that police took

35 minutes to reach the island

once alerted. The ANZ bank.'S

banks fees will be the subject

of a High Court class action

today. The key question is

whether the charges are

penalties or fees for a

service. Now, we are following

events at the A & M University

in Texas where the death toll

from the third mass shooting in

the States in about a month has

now Rhys tone three. What we do

know at the moment and we'll be speaking to our correspondent

Craig McMurtrie in Washington

very shortly is that a gunman

simply started opening fire on

students and others on that

campus. In fact, we're joined

by Craig from Washington now.

Good morning to you, what is in

fact the latest from the shooting in Michael, details

are still pretty sketching on

this disturbing episode, but

what we're learning from police

at this College Station,

north-west of Texas, a man apparently barricaded himself

in a house. There are local

reports from various media

outlets and one police official

that he had been served with an

eviction notice. He shot eviction notice. He shot and

killed, it's alleged, a police

officer who went to the scene,

a sheriff's deputy called Bryan

back man. Other police came to

the seen, there was an exchange

of gunfire. Two other officers

were injured in shah sootout

along with a woman who was in a

car nearby. The gunman has been

shot and killed. Three deaths,

others wounded but police there

in College Station are saying

that the gunman - they're

saying officially that the

gunman is in custody but there

are separate reports to say he

has been killed. Of course,

this follows a number of other

shootings in the United States

in the last few weeks. That's

true, and Americans must be

finding this pretty hard to

take. I know there is the right

to bear arms and all of that,

but to have these three events

in such a short amount of time

really should, I suppose, be

refocussing debate on gun laws

in the States? Well, you might

think so, but of course in

these sorts of situations and

it is a politically charged

season, heading into the

presidential election campaign.

The conventions are coming up shortly and certainly political

leaders are expressing their condolences and sadness at

these events but there is no

real substantive debate in this

country as yet to re-ish -

revisit the debate of gun

control. Last week the death of

people at a Sikh temple in

Wisconsin, before that at the

movie theatre of course, a

dozen people killed, 58 injured

at that movie house shooting

during the Batman movie, so

there had been a number of

these serious episodes now.

Details on this latest one at

Texas A & M University still coming in, more to learn about

this yet. There is a lot of

shock in the United States

about these shootings coming so

close after each other, but

there is no sign of a

substantive debate on vee

visiting the issue of gun

control. Craig McMurtrie in

Washington, we'll leave it there, thank you. Back home now

and the Federal Government is planning to introduce

legislation today to allow

asylum seekers to be processed

offshore. It comes after that

expert panel found asylum

seeker whose arrived by boat

should be sent to Nauru and

Manus Island for

processing. The Coalition

supports the return to Nauru

but hasn't yet spopd to the

panel's report. Scott Morrison

joins us now from Canberra.

Good morning, thanks for your time. Will the Opposition

support, as the Government has

done, the panel's 22 recommendations? As I said

earlier this morning, the Coalition of course supports

the introduction of offshore

processing on Nauru. It's our

policy t has been for over a

decade. We're pleased that the

Government has finally decided

to agree with the Coalition's

policy and act accordingly. I

mean, only heaven knows what

would have happened ofrt the

last four year fs they had

agreed to this earlier or even six weeks ago when since 2,700 people turned up when the

Government rejected this very

proposal just six weeks ago.

I'm pleased that the Government has decided to back has decided to back down on

this, about you there is still

a long way to go on this issue.

To top the boats, we still

believe you need the full suite

of measures the Coalition has

already stood by. The temporary

protection visas, to deny

permanent residence to those

who come by boat and also turning boats back where it's

safe to do so. But one out of

three in terms of them going to

Nauru, we're pleased with that

and. So the expert's 22

recommendation, you don't agree

to those completely as the

Government has done in

principle? Well, many of those

recommendations already exist

in Coalition policy and the

Coalition largely endorses the

approach. They've green lited

Nauru, red-lighted Malaysia,

they say it Captain Be

proceeded with in its current

form because the protections

are not satisfactory. That's

exactly what the Coalition said

six weeks ago, nine months ago,

ever since it was announced ever since it was announced in

May of last year, so the Coalition's position, I think,

has been endorsed on that, and

as a result, we can get going

with Nauru, but we do think

they need to act on the

Coalition's other policies which were in place last time because at the end of the day

what matters is whether the

boats stop, not necessarily

what's agreed here in Canberra,

and we believe the full suite

of measures we've always

advocated will do that

job. Scott Morrison, it is the

same question I'm going to ask

it again, do you support the

panel's 22 recommendations in

principle? Well, the

recommendations don't go to matters that require legislation, So that's a

no That's a matter for the

Government, and where they are seeking support in the

Parliament, the legislation to

re-open Nauru, then they re-open Nauru, then they will

get that support for Nauru, but

we're not about to agree to a

back-door re-introduction of

the Malaysian people swap. That

should be a matter for the

Parliament if the Government

can actually ever get those agreements that have been

suggested out of Malaysia. I

think that's a big test and the

minister had said to me earlier

last December that the

Malaysian Government wouldn't

agree to those changes. That's

a test for the Government and

we will see what happens there,

but today, this week in but today, this week in Parliament, the Coalition

welcomes the fact that we can

at least re-open Nauru but to

stop the boats we think other

things are necessary, in

particular the policies we had

when we were last in government. Let's talk about

Malaysia for a moment because

the panel has effectively

backed what the Opposition was

saying in terms of the human

rights concerns about

unaccompanied minors being sent

to Malaysia. If the Government

does do the work to address

that and Malaysia agrees to

that, why won't the Coalition

agree that Malaysia should be

part of this regional

solution? Well, I don't think

you should get ahead of

yourself that. Is a massive big

"if". What we have to

understand here is we have a

Government who has had failure

after failure on all these

alternative methods. East Timor

flop, the Malaysia flop, the

asylum-free farce, all of that.

I will let the Government work

through their last failed

policy. All we know is we can support proven policy which is

offshore processing on Nauru.

That's what we've always asked

them to do, it's what they've

consist tently rejected,

demonised, criticised over 10

years and now the Prime

Minister has had to climb down

and admit that it was the wrong thing

thing to have ever abolished it

because she is now saying it

should be introduced. But if

those concerns are addressed

why won't the Coalition support

as part of this regional

solution which is what this

expert panel was getting at

which is it needs a regional

solution, rather than just

offshore processing on PNG or Nauru? Because the Malaysian

people swap still doesn't have

the green light, still doesn't

have any of the protections

that are necessary and the

Government has to achieve those

things at the very least, and

so we're not going to spopd to

a hypothetical which I think has very little chance of

actually being achieved. The

Government has failed in this

area, I think they've got a

record of failure and I think

the Australian people know who

they can trust to implement

these measures. The Government

has been dragged kicking and

screaming to re-open Nauru, and

I'm sure the Australian people

have a little question, maybe a

big one in the back of their

mind, about their commitment to

actually doing this right, given they've been so reluctant

to do what has been obvious to

everyone else. Well, can you be

really clear about which of these

these 22 recommendations the

Coalition will support? Well, I

don't think there is any necessity for that because

that's an action for the Government. The Coalition's

policy is clear. The Australian

people know what that is. I

don't think anyone is in any

doubt about that. The report

released yesterday made it very

clear that it's operationally

possible to turn back boats

where it's safe to do so.

That's something the Government

has consistently denied. The

path they've gone down on

family reunion is consist tent

with temporary protection

visas. The other things will

not come into the Parliament.

They are not things that

requires a Coalition response.

What requires a Coalition

response is what's going to

happen in the Parliament. That

is what the Prime Minister has

asked for and of course we will

agree to our own policy and

subject to those details being

worked through in the

Parliament and the Government doesn't try to slip Malaysia in

through the back door when

clearly it has been red-lighted

by the committee. But the panel

didn't give the green light to

turning back the boats. In

fact, what it said is that

that's something that could be

considered further down the

track should the country that

the boat is being turned back

to agree to the boats being

turned back there and at the

moment Indonesia doesn't agree

to that ? Well, you must have

missed what I said. What I said was that the report said it was

operationally possible to turn

boats back where it is safe to

do so. That is something the

Government has consistently

denied... But not right

now They've said it can't be

done because the Navy say it is

can't be done. The committee

said yesterday it can be done

and the Coalition is confident

that under a Coalition

Government that we'll be able

to implement that policy in

exactly the same way as we did

last time. That's our policy,

that's what we will do. What we

don't... How will you go about

implementing that policy? As I

said I don't know how many

times on the ABC and everywhere

else, we will implement this policy the same way we did last

time. It's not a theory, it's a

fact. It was actually done. The

panel yesterday confirmed that

when it is done, when it is

safe to do so, then it does provide a very significant

deterrent. We stand by those

policy. There are others who

may not agree with that, the

Government certainly doesn't

agree with it, but we think it's necessary to stop the

boats and if you want that

outcome, then we think it's

necessary. Scott Morrison in Canberra, thanks for your

time Thank you very much. Some

people in Indonesia are still

contemplating that risky

journey by boat Indonesia has

become a temporary home to a

growing number of people who

see Australia as a safe heaven

and are determined to get here.

Helen Brown reports. They're

keen to start a new life, but

say that a trip on a leaky

fishing boat could turn out to

be the best chance at

be the best chance at it.

Sentiments such as these

come from a growing understanding that the process

is long. For the moment, they

will work with the system, but

the waiting is difficult.

TRANSLATION: There will no

facilities for us here. We are

just waiting for nothing. I

registered with the UNHCR. They

said to come back for an

interview after nine months.

There are no facilities for the

children here and there is no

school for them. We have

nothing to do. We are just

waiting. This 33-year-old Iranian has a different view.

He says he has already survived

one boat sinking that left

scores dead, but that won't stop him from trying again.

TRANSLATION: I have no hope for

life because everybody is lying

to us. The smugglers, the

Government and the people -

everybody. This town, about two

hours out of Jakarta, is just

one of many across Indonesia

that has become home to the

thousands of people seeking

asylum or refugee status. It's

meant to be temporary, but for

many the wait is too long. An estimated 6,000 people are

waiting to go to a new country.

While many have received

official status as refugees,

others are waiting months for

the first interview. You can't

stop the boat because it is not government boat, because it's

public boat. Anyone can buy the

boat or sell the boat and all

the people are taken to Australia. The solution,

according to some, is to increase facilities and processing in Indonesia. You're

watching ABC News Breakfast.

These are our top story this

morning - the Federal

Government will introduce

legislation today to end the political deadlock over asylum

seekers and reinstate offshore

processing. The Opposition has

yet to say if it will back the

measures to re-open processing

centres on Nauru and Papua New

Guinea. Three people have been

killed, including a police

officer and a gunman in a

shooting spree in Texas. It's

the third multiple shooting in the United States in a

month. And the ANZ's fee also

be the subject of Australia's

largest class action in the

High Court today. Lawyers for

38,000 customers will argue

against excessive dharjs for

late credit card payments,

overdrawn account s and

dishonour fees. For a look at

the national newspaper this

morning we're joined by Radio Australia's Phil Kafcaloudes.

Good morning. Thanks for being here.

Good morning to you. It's the

story we won't be able to

escape for the whole day? No,

I don't think so. I don't think

we will be able to escape this

for the next few weeks because

it brings in countries like

Papua New Guinea and Nauru and

asylum seekers policy that you've been covering this

morning. It's interesting to

see how the media has covered

this. In 'The Australian' only

a couple of months ago it was

saying Labor could not do a

thing right and here, now there

is so much abprobation, and if

you were looking at the 'Australian' newspaper and these were the people voting in

the next election, 'The Australian' newspaper, Gillard

would get in on a landslide

here because the headline: "At

last, people put before

politics." An interview with a woman who you can see in woman who you can see in the

middle there, she is an Afghan

refugee says that conditions

that refugees are escaping is

far worse than the risk of

drowning at sea, which is

something we've always known.

It's not the push factors, it's

the fact that where they come

from, if it's so bad, that this

is a better thing. To pull up

that front page again, I also found very interesting Paul Kelly's opinion piece below the

main story, Paul Kelly, one of

the most well regarded political columnists in

Australia, basically said,

paraphrasing his column says intrance jns should be punished. Come out strongly

against the Coalition Which is

really strong. He says that

this is a short-term fix that

can stem the boats and it could

be a device for regional

processing, so that finally

could happen, but the last

thing he says is, "This allows

us to take more genuine

refugees." He says what we

need to do here in Australia

now is to have legislation in

this week which would address

the High Court decision that

happened about a year ago, and

needs to do it this week, which

would be extremely fast if that

could be. Michael , you've

worked in Canberra. Could you

imagine it would be that quick,

or a draft? Well, the

legislation apparently was

circulated last night to the

Coalition and amazingly this

morning, as we've seen the Coalition spokesman Scott

Morrison still won't say

whether the Coalition will

agree to the 22 recommendations Well, he has

today, tomorrow, Thursday to

sort it all out. Very

interesting, isn't it? That was

fascinating. They do make the

point that it is a bit of a

slap in the head as well to all

parties involved, except the

Greens, that 338 people died

between the time of that High

Court decision and now. So

they're saying why did these

people have to die? Why didn't

we make this decision before?

Interesting, isn't it? That's

what happens there. The

question I've got is what about

PNG, and Nauru, what do they

say about this? Peter O'Neill

looks like he has a stable government, although we don't

want to speak too soon, but he

has said he wants to have talks, negotiations on

re-opening Manus aye land, but,

hey, we went through all of

this a year ago and the people

on Manus Island who weren't in

favour of it. Some MPs said,

"This is a terrible idea." I

don't think a few words from

the PM will answer it here (

How has 'The Age' covered it? A

picture of Julia Gillard which

I suspect could have been well

taken after the Bulldogs game

on the weekend after another

goal was scored. Not the most flattering photograph Typical

newspaper use. Very clever.

Take a shot of where she is

going, "Oh, no!". But Michael

Gordon has actually done some -

he has had a look at this one

and he has said that the refugee sector has been

gobsmacked by claims that the

processing should take the same

time as regional processing.

Now, regional processing is

like taking forever, so that's

a really big get-out. And

that's one of the big disin-Seb

Sen tiffs that the panel was

talking about and - one of the

big disincentives that the

panel was talking about, Yes,

that should be high lited, too,

and the other disincentive is

the disincentive about

families, you won't necessarily

have your families come out for

you. Which is one angle the

'Herald Sun' points out Yes,

the right to join family has

gone. The union rights have

- Reunion rights have been

scrap ed. So not all touchy-feely stuff. Hard-headed

stuff, as said by Angus Houston Paris Aristotle who was

on the panel and Michael

L'Estrange this morning has say

has made a few comments that it

seems Paris really had to compromise. To other stories

and light-fingered

shoppers Yes, there is an

increase happening at JB Hi-Fi.

It has gone up by 60%, $12

million a year. Gone up by

what? 60%? Wow! Thefts from

their stores have gone up by

60%. $12 million. You wonder is

it the economic times? Economic times in Australia aren't so

bad, but when you look at the

things being stolen, have a

look at the paper again, if we

can get that up, it's not

luxury items, we're talking

about head phones, CDs are

going, DVDs, games, gaming

consoles, we've got phone

covers, covers for your phone.

Now, these are things that are

really going to keep you from starving, so, no, people are

just taking stuff because they

can get away from it because

there aren't so many security

guards on the store. They will

have to stop using the slogan,

"Our prices are a steal." If

you look at the two videos

they've got. " Gone in 60

seconds." And "grand theft

auto." Ka-chink. Thanks,

Phil. To sport and Paul joins

us Good morning. Let's start with something

non-Olympicses-related, the

rugby league? Yes, to the NRL

and apologies if we've

neglected the footy for the

last couple of weeks, but the

Newcastle Knights beat Cronulla

last night 26-4 at Newcastle

Stadium and five-eighth Jarrod

Mullen was the star of the

show. He opened the scoring in

the 16th minute before he

helped create some other tries

and the Knights are now in 9th

spot on the ladder, just two

points behind the 8 hdge hdge

placed West Tigers with three

matches to place. The loss hurts Cronulla's hopes of

finishing in the top 4. Sharks

are 3 points behind 4th-placed

Manly. Let's get to some

Olympics and Belarussian,

Nadzeya Ostapchuk who won the

shot-put at the London Olympics

tested positive to steroids.

That's Valerie Adams, she now

takes over the gold. We talked

about this earlier. She has

been THE standout in the

shot-put fof the last couple of

years. She won is in Beijing,

too. Ostapchuk threw over 41m

four times in that event and

that's proven to be explained

by steroids. Valerie Adams was

told when she was going back to

her training base in

Switzerland, over the phone,

and she had to get out of the

car and started crying. A

little bit more Olympic news

before I go, the Cameroon team,

as you do see sometimes in Commonwealth Commonwealth and Olympic Games,

some athletes are seeking

refuge in Britain now, so the

Cameroon team has some athletes

there that threatened by their

own team. They want to stay in

Britain. The Kenyan authorities

will review their Games because

they've won too few gold medals

for their liking and a couple

of the athletes, including the

winner of the marathon and Mo

Farah have their training base

in Kenya, not unlike Australian

swimmer whose have Australian

coaches training Chinese swimmers,

swimmers, sport is global and

no barriers there. Thanks,

Paul. Varnl is here with the

weather. Hi, Vanessa Cloud

coming from Western Australia

down into the south-east is

associated with a trough and

front. Rain is spreading from

South Australia into Victoria

and another front is approaching the south-west.

Otherwise a cold morning, but mostly fine under this high

pressure system that is shifting from New South Wales

into Queensland. A further two fronts will cross the

south-east this week and we can

expect a powerful one on Thursday and Friday. Starting in Queensland:


way there - the Opposition to

back a plan to reinstate offshore processing. What we

know is today we can support proven policy which is offshore

processing on Nauru. This Program is Captioned

Live. Three dead in Texas after

the third US shooting spree in

a month. Australia's biggest

class action challenges the

ANZ's bank fees in the High

Court. And a belated triumph

for New Zealand's Valerie Adams

after her drug-cheating rival

is stripped of Olympic

gold Quite simply, she was

astonished at the news,

overwhelmed. Good morning,

you're watching ABC News

Breakfast on Tuesday, 14th

August. I'm Karina Carvalho.

Coming up shortly, we'll be

speaking to the Home Affairs

Minister Jason Clare about the

Government's backflip on

processing asylum seekers on

Manus Island and Nauru, and

poking fun at our politicians. Renowned cartoonist Bill Leak

has made it his life's work. He

has just released a new

compilation of his cartoons and

writings and we'll be speaking

to him a little later in the

program. It should be very

entertaining indeed. First here

is the news with Michael Rowland The Federal Government will introduce lenl slation

today to end the political

deadlock over asylum seekers T

will reinstate offshore

processing on both Nauru and <