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(generated from captions) 'Gordon, get it off the balcony!' and I said, without a Japanese quartz clock. It wouldn't be the '60s in relation to the clock. The clock - it's been a bit frosty It's just so gross and horrible. Our cocktail mixer of dubious taste. in the Auction Room. All this and more Did you ever see Val Doonican live? (Laughs) I have, actually. I took my mother! She loved it. (Will sings to organ-grinder music) (Makes monkey sounds) I'm the monkey AND the grinder. Closed Captions by CSI over 40,000 patients in hospital. Every day in Australia, there are can you stick out your tongue? If you can hear me, chaplains tend the souls. While medicine tends the bodies, I think he's gonna die. It is a tough environment. a minute that this is an easy job. I don't want anyone to think for It's a tough job. we follow the chaplains' journeys In this series, at three major hospitals. alongside the patients and families or Jewish teaching. This isn't about Catholic teaching Do you have some pain? themselves This is about what's in the person express itself and letting their own spirituality in however that needs to be. the Son and of the Holy Spirit. In the name of the Father and of Buddhist. Protestant, Muslim, Jewish and Our chaplains are Catholic and they all meet the same challenges. Regardless of their faith challenges my faith. Working in the hospital but we're not God. We want to be God sometimes, We don't have answers. We don't have solutions. But we try to help. The pain of suffering... meaning of life questions. introspective. We start to ask those Suffering makes us all The power of love. respecting people for who they are. It's about respect - And the joy of new life. supports a mother in mourning. This week, trainee chaplain Dianne And you feel everyone else's pain. I feel all the other mothers' pain. Chaplain Graham helps a devoted son. Yeah. You only get one mother so... just seeing her like that. But it's hard for you meets an inspiring young man. And trainee chaplain Paul Because of the treatment I've had, gonna come back again. it's almost certainly Royal North Shore Hospital, At Sydney's chaplaincy training course. eight students are doing a part-time Good morning. There's classroom theory, hands-on in the wards. but they'll spend most of their time his training Paul Hurst has almost completed responsibility. and is ready to take on more chaplain Di. shift, he's being briefed by veteran In preparation for his solo night in the morning. So I'll read your report Thanks for staying back. Have a good night, Di. No, that's good. and former counsellor. Paul's a yoga teacher hospital chaplain. He wants to become a full-time because I just couldn't see myself I chose chaplaincy over counselling clients on the hour, every hour. sitting in a little room taking can vary minute to minute. Now, what I find here, the patients what you're gonna find You never know into a ward. when you stick your head about chaplaincy. I guess I love that at Royal North Shore, Tonight, Paul's the duty chaplain arena of accident and emergency. on call for intensive care We're in what's called the main Sometimes nights can be very busy. and visit on this floor, My role is to come round to say hello to everybody. Graham's a police officer. ladder and broke his shoulder blade. He was off duty when he fell off a with it I'm actually in a fair bit of pain moment whether to operate or not. and they're just deciding at the falling off a ladder? Any thoughts about lots of thoughts on it. (Son laughs) Yep, I've got for a construction company Mum's a safety officer on ladder safety at work and she was giving a lecture when she got the message. and everyone laughed - She showed everyone the message thought it was a joke. it's someone new Each time I go to a bed, encounter or what they're here for. and I don't know what I'm going to Nice to meet you. Good luck with it. Thanks for talking. whatever is there. It keeps me very open to discovering preconceived ideas So I don't really have any when I approach someone. of what I'm going to encounter I'm a renal patient. and high blood pressure today. I've had some racing heart in the right side I was born with no organs was only one kidney and what I had in the left side and one adrenal gland, only one tube and ovary of having two children, and I've had the miracle which is a miracle in itself. It really is a miracle. out of hospital chaplaincy I suppose what I get on a much deeper level is being with people open and a lot more truthful that allows people to be a lot more about themselves. and a lot more giving connecting deeper on that level I guess the sense of to be here. is the thing that really inspires me in Sydney's south-west, At Liverpool Hospital Friday morning rounds. Anglican chaplain Graham is on his the intensive care unit. We're going into that I've seen before. We have a lady here period of time some months ago She was in hospital for quite a long and is now in the ICU. and has come back in liver disease for five years. 67-year-old Jacquie has been fighting She doesn't have a good prognosis. and I get chronic liver disease. I've never drank in my life I just find it very funny. (Laughs) and you get it anyhow. You know, you don't do these things So... death has dogged Jacquie. Over the last ten years, also had terminal illnesses. Her husband and two daughters and younger daughter I think the hardest was my husband dying six days apart. following on later on. And then the older one to cope with. And that was the hardest thing a dreadful time for you. That must have been I had to go back to... It was horrible because They were all in different hospitals too and I had to go back from one hospital to another to tell them that their sister had passed away and to me that was horrifying. Do you sometimes wonder why God allows all those things to happen? At times you question your faith. You question why Jesus has done it, you know. Why do these things happen? Often there is no answer. I don't think there are any words that automatically help someone who's facing the prospect of a terminal illness or death in the not too distant future. I think we're able to cope with more. I wish there were just words that I had to say and to know, 'OK, when this is the situation, this is what I say.' It's not like that. Father, we thank you... As the liver disease bites deeper into her body, Jacquie's drawing more and more on chaplain Graham's help. Thanks, Jacquie. Thank you. OK, I'll let you rest. I don't want to outlive my welcome. (Both laugh) Pick me up off the floor. I'll catch up with you another day anyway. Yes, OK. All the best. God bless. Thank you. Bye now. Bye-bye. At Royal North Shore, trainee chaplain Paul is getting experience with patients in emergency. Jilly has kidney problems and quite a story. I came to Australia when I was a young woman with two young children of my husband. And he was killed shortly after arriving here. So it was very much a... God has got me through and my faith has got me through that. It sounds like you have a real direct experience of... I think believing is basically what it's all about. Funnily enough, my father was an atheist. But from a young child I used to visit the church and used to pray. I don't know, it just seemed from very early on I believed in something and, you know, believed in God. So it's... That sense of God being with you through all of these... Oh and I'm sure it will get me through. If you just stay positive and keep moving on and people like you coming and speaking is lovely because it gives you... Not everybody you can talk to, is there? Not everybody wants to listen. (Laughs) In hospital, in chaplaincy, we just allow them to tell their story. I'm always positive and always know that you never know what... To be able to accept people where they are. To be able to show compassion and to be able to show kindness. To be able to show all those good qualities that we all hold within ourselves. I think that invokes the presence of God. At Liverpool Hospital, Jacquie's chronic liver disease has worsened over the last few days. Chaplain Graham knows his time with Jacquie is running out. Jacquie's not doing real well at all at the moment. I think she feels that she doesn't have very much time and she may well be right about that. As her time draws near, Jacquie's son Lance is making the most of these precious moments with his mum. I've lived with my mum all my life - 44 years. Yeah, um... In that time I've seen her - the strongest woman I've ever met. She's been through when my sister was ill with cystic fibrosis. My father with emphysema. Been there through thick and thin for all of us, then when my sister went, she had lupus before she passed away. And to see her the way she is now is pretty hard. I guess at the moment I'm just trying to support Lance as much as I can. Yeah... It's just to comfort him and reassure him that there's someone there for him as well. Jacquie's liver problems have spread. Doctor Landale's on the palliative care team. DR: Looking at the computer at the blood results shows the kidneys are very compromised and that's happened secondarily to the liver problem, we believe. That can be very difficult to treat - very resistant to treatment. The reason why they've asked the palliative care team, which I'm the representative for, to be involved is to try to keep her comfortable. If she is getting some pain, we'll try to address that and any other issues that she has. Yes, that's right. Yep. Yeah, but it's hard for you just seeing her like that. Yep. Struggling. I'm sure each day is a struggle. Very hard. He's been my strength, I know that, at times... ..when things have looked pretty bleak with Mum. I know I've had a shoulder there if I needed it or just someone to talk to. If I hadn't had the talks I've had with Graham, I don't know if I would have been able to get through things. She appreciates, I think, you just sitting there with her. That obviously means a lot to her. It's been pretty tough at times. It's what you do, though. You only get one mother. Yeah. So... She's always been there for us, so it's time for us to be there for her. That's right. Yeah. But having you there for support has been good. It's a pretty tough time for him. I think he's churning with those emotions of - is it time? Is it the time? And in the end it's God's time that decides that, not his or not his mum's. At Royal North Shore, another trainee chaplain, Dianne Bourke, is cold calling the wards. Dianne's been a nurse and relationship counsellor. Recently retired and with four grown-up children, she's now chosen a spiritual path. Hi, Amber. How are you? Good thanks. Dianne's first call is to mum Amber and baby Hannah, born three months premature. She was in intensive care for about eight weeks. So we've been in this room for about two. She's doing well. So what's this been like for you, having a very tiny baby come along a lot earlier than expected? Yeah, it's scary. It's definitely not something you can prepare for. I actually had twins and we lost one. Oh, really? Yeah, it's been a rough journey. Let me check with you. Are you saying that Hannah was a twin? Yes and we lost the other girl. They were identical twins and it's called twin-to-twin transfusion syndrome. Only 10% of identical twins get it. We found out five days prior to the birth. It basically means one baby donates all their blood to the other one and the heart can't take that much blood flow, so it effectively blows the heart out. So she died five days before birth. It's Sunday evening at Liverpool Hospital. Chaplain Graham's received an urgent request from Jacquie's son Lance. I had a call from Lance about 6:30. He said to me that they'd said to him his mum really didn't have very long to go and would I mind coming in. When I got here I bumped into Lance just in the corridor, just near where we are at the moment on the phone and it was pretty obvious from the phone call that his mum had passed away. Holy loving Father, you gave us life when you created us. We do thank you for Jacquie's life. Thank you for her trust in you. Thank you for all that she's meant to so many people. We pray, Father, for Lance and for all her family at this time. In Jesus' name. That's an extraordinary privilege to be able to meet with someone in that situation, and just to try and help them and guide them. I said a couple of prayers with him. And I think that was just a formality that was important to him. It meant a lot. Are you gonna stay with her for a little bit longer? Yeah. Would you like us just to leave you alone? Yeah, thanks, Graham. It was just a very special moment to be able to be with him. He indicated that he was in the room when his mum had passed away, and there were a couple of nurses that were there at the same time, but he was the only family member. And I think that's indicative of the closeness between him and his mum. It's obviously been a very special relationship, and I think it meant a lot to him that he could be there when the time came. It's typical, but I'm not the only one. Trainee chaplain Dianne has just discovered that one of Amber's twins died in utero. But we got one good one. You've got a beautiful one. Yeah. She's just beautiful. So you have to think of the positive. You've been through a lot, haven't you? Yeah. When I started the conversation and allowed her to speak, I didn't expect that it would go where it did go, because of course I didn't know that she'd lost one of her twins. But it did go there and I was pleased for her that it did. There's a sadness for me, listening to all of that. But I'm also aware that it's giving her the opportunity to say things in a comfortable setting and I'm in a privileged position of hearing that story of hers. It happened so quickly though. I went in for a regular check-up at 25 weeks and they did a scan and could see one baby was in a whole lot of amniotic fluid and one was basically getting suffocated by its sack. So it all happened within hours really. So it was very quick. So where to from here? Very shortly we'll get transferred back to Hornsby Hospital and she'll be there for a week or two weeks and then we'll go home. So it's not long to go now. A couple of weeks. Getting towards the end of this journey that's been up and down. It certainly has. But I've made some friends that I'll keep for life in here. It's been quite nice. Lots of supportive people have been here with you through it. Yeah... Sorry. That's fine. I can see this is quite sad for you. It is, and you feel everyone else's pain. I feel all the other mothers' pain. I know what they're going through. Very emotional. It is. I think the help is in sharing the story. It's in being able to talk about something that has been very important to you, to be able to share that with someone who's able to sit with you in that and it provides what I would call a sacred space. It's very therapeutic talking about it actually, because you don't talk about it through the day. You just get along with it. And I'm not afraid to cry - it's good. It's the only way you heal. So... I'm happy. I'm happy to talk. We're doing good. It's in their story, in their humanness, in their brokenness, if you like, that to me is the sacred space, a space where God is. I can't wait to go home. Upstairs at Royal North Shore, fellow trainee chaplain Paul is visiting a day ward. On this ward people come in for day treatment, for chemotherapy, for blood transfusions, for platelet transfusions. Anything to do with that. Here it's very obvious they've been well and then all of a sudden they're faced with an illness they may die from. That was 23-year-old Darren's experience. I finished all my treatment a few weeks ago. Oh, OK. Now I'm back at work. Darren's a carpenter. 18 months ago, he was diagnosed with cancer. After chemotherapy, he thought he was cured. I felt so good and I was working out and I felt great, then it came back 100 times worse and spread to my lungs and that was a shock. Because of the treatment I've had, it's almost certainly gonna come back again sometime down the track. How is it to know that it could come back or there's a chance? I don't think about it. We're all gonna die somehow. I don't get emotional, not really, or a spiritual sort of person or anything like that. I just make the most of what I have. I think after the first time being sick, I think someone up there was saying I might not have learnt my lesson enough, you know? So I was still a bit cheeky and immature after the first time so... I think that's a big insight into yourself and understanding. You said to me before that you weren't spiritual at all. I'm not... I just said that, I guess. I don't know anyone my age who really is very religious. I sort of think it's old fashioned. Looking back on that time, what sort of sense do you make of all that? I think I've realised my mortality. I'm not bullet-proof like every young bloke thinks they are. I think I've got a better outlook on life now. For things that I've always wanted to do I'm not gonna put off anymore. So do them now. You're not always gonna have much time anymore. In a way I've sort of got a bit clucky. I want to maybe hurry up and try to have a family, which is something I never thought I'd think about. I got a job promotion out of it. I'm a foreman now because they probably think I'm ready for that now. So... Everything's starting to go really well now, actually. I'm in a very privileged position. The stories that I hear are often, although they can be quite tragic, or quite intense, in some way the people have shared their story, I always feel inspired by that. I always feel that I've trodden on sacred ground. Well, thanks for sharing. OK, no worries. Next week, six months in ICU, Father Laurie meets true love. I've been every single day in here. That's right - every day. Chaplain Han helps heal an old wound. My leg went into the dashboard. A mother's miracle relived. The placenta ruptured and he was on life support for two months. And Rabbi Kastel hears an unusual complaint. Oh! Whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge! Closed Captions by CSI - Kent Rosenthal This Program is Captioned

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