Note: Where available, the PDF/Word icon below is provided to view the complete and fully formatted document
Disclaimer: The Parliamentary Library does not warrant or accept liability for the accuracy or usefulness of the transcripts.These are copied directly from the broadcaster's website.
RN World Today -

View in ParlViewView other Segments

Accusations intensify over fake email scandal

The Government has quashed an Opposition bid to set up a judicial inquiry into the fake email
scandal. The Opposition Leader, Malcolm Turnbull, is facing growing pressure over his knowledge of
the email, and his relationship with the Treasury official at the centre of the affair.

PETER CAVE: Both the Government and the Opposition have ramped up their arguments over the fake
email scandal gripping Parliament.

The Government wants to know if the public servant at the centre of the affair was leant on by the
Opposition to hand over confidential information.

The Opposition has hit back with an accusation that the Government is wielding state agencies as a
tool of political coercion and intimidation.

Emma Griffiths reports from Canberra.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: There's been no let up from either side. This morning Parliament had not been
sitting for even one minute when the Opposition Leader rose to his feet.

MALCOLM TURNBULL: That this House calls on the Government to immediately establish a full judicial
inquiry into the OzCar matter including but not limited to one - the full extent of the
relationship between the Prime Minister, the Treasurer, the Member for Oxley, and the car dealer,
Mr John Grant,

EMMA GRIFFITHS: The motion was quashed and Malcolm Turnbull silenced by the Government's number,
the Opposition Leader's battling to swing the spotlight back on the Treasurer and any assistance
Wayne Swan may have given to the car dealer.

The Government's had more success in keeping the focus on Malcolm Turnbull.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: Mr Turnbull, is your position tenable at the moment?

MALCOLM TURBALL: (laughs) Look the only position that is under challenge, is that of Wayne Swan. If
the Government believes Wayne Swan has done the right thing, then why not have the judicial
inquiry? We could have already established it already today.

The Government is so frightened of there being a full and open inquiry into this OzCar scandal, so
frightened, they're not prepared to have a judicial inquiry. We're not frightened of that, bring it
on. We want to let some sunlight into this.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: An auditor general's inquiry has been set up to report by the end of July; and the
Federal Police is investigating. It's concluded that an email - cited in a Senate hearing last
Friday is a hoax and an investigation has been launched into the public servant who spoke of it.

The Treasury official, Godwin Grech, is also being questioned about other information that has been
leaked from Treasury. The ABC has been told Mr Grech routinely provided the former Howard
Government with what has been described as "off-line" or unofficial information about the
Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. The Government wants the Opposition to open up its
computer systems.

Minister Anthony Albanese:

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Was there any pressure placed on Mr Grech by either Malcolm Turnbull or anyone
else in the Liberal Party to give information? These are questions that really do need to be

EMMA GRIFFITHS: The furore over the fake email is all just a giant smokescreen according to Malcolm

MALCOLM TURNBULL: When the Labor Party were in Opposition they used to issue press releases
boasting about their leaks from the public service; here's one from Wayne Swan: 'Major budget leak'
he says, 'more cuts and no new ideas', Labor has obtained Cabinet and confidence documents.

There are hundreds of these, and you see this is the hypocrisy of the Labor Party. When a public
servant leaks information to the Labor Party he or she is a heroic whistleblower - if a public
servant leaks information to the Liberal Party they are a treacherous mole that deserves to be

EMMA GRIFFITHS: The Government's pushing on with its argument that the episode has shown up Malcolm
Turnbull as a grubby opportunist and it's called on him to resign. But the Liberal frontbencher
Tony Abbott says there's absolutely no reason why he should.

TONY ABBOTT: Everything that Malcolm Turnbull has done from the very beginning of this has been
perfectly reasonable. If an Opposition leader had not gone on the attack on Friday night, after the
sworn testimony that we got suggesting that both the Prime minister and the Treasurer had misled
Parliament, people would have said he was on Mogadon.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: The Opposition hasn't revealed exactly when and how it knew about the email and
whether any Coalition MPs or staff were involved in disseminating it. Tony Abbott does know for
certain that the Opposition Leader didn't concoct it.

TONY ABBOTT: I mean please, I mean really and truly, what kind of fantasists inhabit this building
to think that Malcolm Turnbull could somehow put a dodgy email on the Treasury computer system.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: What about disseminating it once he's received it - what about disseminating it and
using it?

TONY ABBOTT: Well, there were lots of rumours going around Canberra - Canberra is full of rumours.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: Mr Abbott says the scandal has been hijacked by a ferocious display of Government

TONY ABBOTT: Why is it that we still don't know after several months what happened on that refugee
boat in Western Australia, but we are getting moment by moment updates of an AFP investigation that
happens to suit the convenience of the Government?

Now I'm not suggesting for second that the AFP have done anything wrong but I tell you what this is
a government which is using all the agencies of the state as a form of political coercion and

EMMA GRIFFITHS: For its part the Government has continued to dismiss the accusation that Kevin Rudd
has done any favours for his car dealer neighbour Anthony Albanese.

ANTHONY ALBANESE: Well it's pretty ordinary special treatment when John Grant got zip, not a dollar
from the scheme - indeed of course important to remember that this a scheme that has not yet come
into force, that hasn't gone through the Parliament.

EMMA GRIFFITHS: The legislation to get the OzCar scheme up and running is due to be debated in the
Senate today and it will apparently pass with Opposition support.

PETER CAVE: Emma Griffiths reporting.

More swine flu deaths tipped

Two Australians with pre-existing health issues have now died with swine flu. Authorities say more
deaths are likely as the virus hits people with chronic health problems, and clinicians in remote
communities are now being urged not to restrict anti-virals to high risk groups.

PETER CAVE: Australian health authorities are warning that more swine flu deaths are likely as the
virus hits people with chronic health problems.

In the past week, two Australian men have died of swine flu. Both had pre-existing health problems.

Hospitals are looking for ways to speed up the return of test results, and clinicians in Indigenous
communities are being urged to be less frugal with antiviral medications.

Rachael Brown reports.

RACHAEL BROWN: Thirty-five-year-old Anthony Splatt, from Colac, in Victoria's south west died in
hospital on Saturday. Three days later, his test results for the H1N1 virus returned, confirming he
had swine flu. He'd waited a day to be tested, unable to get an intensive care bed in Colac.

His family isn't angry with his care, but rather, with the Department of Human Services' press
conference yesterday. His mother, a nurse, Judith Splatt, says although her son wasn't named by the
acting chief medical officer, Rosemary Lester, other personal details were released.

JUDITH SPLATT: She gave his age and the town he came from, it doesn't take Einstein for anyone to
work out who it was by just downloading the Colac Herald death notices, and what really upset us is
that they gave us no warning.

RACHAEL BROWN: Previously, the Department has been criticised for the opposite, for being too
tight-lipped about the details of swine flu outbreaks. Dr Lester has apologised for any distress
caused to Mr Splatt's family, saying she believed the family had been warned.

ROSEMARY LESTER: I had been assured by the hospital that the family had been told about this of
course we would never have gone public and caused the family further distress. I certainly asked
the hospital to inform the family that we would be speaking about this publicly

RACHAEL BROWN: Contributing to Mr Splatt's death were his problems with obesity and diabetes.
Pre-existing health issues have also been attributed to the death of a 26-year-old Aboriginal man
from Western Australia last Friday. Special measures are being put in place to protect Indigenous
Australians from swine flu.

In the Northern Territory, cases jumped by 17 to 78 overnight, with many of the new cases in the
Warlpiri area of Central Australia The Australian Medical Association is calling on the Northern
Territory Government to send as many of its health professionals as it can out to remote
communities to prepare for the spread of swine flu.

Tamiflu won't be restricted to high risk groups; it will be up to the clinician to decide. Northern
Territory AMA president Paul Bauert says the Government's current stance of treating only critical
cases, won't work in remote communities.

PAUL BAUERT: I think they really do need to be proactive. This isn't some sort of, sit in the
armchair and watch what happens. We need to be out there. We all know and we all fear that if this
particular flu gets into remote communities and takes a very strong hold, then there will be many

RACHAEL BROWN: A Victorian woman from Mildura, who's in a critical condition in hospital in
Adelaide, is also believed to have underlying health issues. Health authorities warn more deaths
are likely, as the virus hits those most vulnerable.

Australia is now in what's known as the 'protect phase' of tackling the H1N1 virus, which focuses
on treating those most at risk. Antiviral drugs are no longer given to mild cases, and home
quarantine is recommended but voluntary.

The director of respiratory medicine at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, Dr. Lou Irving, believes
despite the two recent deaths, the protect phase is appropriate.

LOU IRVING: I think there are subgroups in the community who need to be particularly vigilant about
reducing the likelihood that they actually become exposed to influenza if they do become unwell
with a flu-like illness they should seek medical attention as soon as possible.

And they should also activate their underlying management plan on their chronic condition; so, for
example, diabetics will have plans whereby if they're diabetes becomes unstable they know how to
adjust their medication. Asthmatics have plans that empower them to adjust their medication even
before they see their doctor; same with heart failure emphysema etc.

RACHAEL BROWN: What about hospitals, where some of the most vulnerable people are, what's being
done to minimise the risk of transmission there?

LOU IRVING: We're isolating patients who have a flu-like illness or who may have a virile
respiratory illness and in particular we're doing that at the point of contact in the emergency
department in outpatients etc.

RACHAEL BROWN: And we've heard Anthony Splatt's test results took four days to process. Is it true
public hospitals are starting to test patients for influenza A now, an indicator that H1N1 may be
present - rather than sending tests through the reference laboratory, because they're frustrated by

LOU IRVING: I don't think we're frustrated, we're actually doing both in that as soon as we see the
patient we take samples that are tested in the hospital for influenza, if that subsequently shows
positive those samples are also sent to a reference laboratory to subtype the influenza as to
whether it's seasonal flu or swine flu or other virus.

PETER CAVE: The director of respiratory medicine at the Royal Melbourne Hospital, Dr Lou Irving
ending that report from Rachael Brown.

Hardies moves to Ireland to save tax

James Hardie Industries is planning to move from its base in the Netherlands to Ireland. While the
move is designed to save tax, it's also raised questions over the company's commitment to maintain
contributions to a compensation fund for victims of asbestos-related diseases.

PETER CAVE: The building supplies manufacturer James Hardie Industries has unveiled plans to move
its head office to Ireland.

For most companies the move would barely raise an eyebrow in the corporate world.

But the Hardies isn't just any company. It has a large and growing liability over asbestos-related
health care.

Simon Santow has been listening to a briefing for analysts this morning; he joined me in the

Simon, many Australians consider Hardie as an Australian company. How can they just pick up and
move to Ireland?

SIMON SANTOW: Well Peter, there's a couple of points to note here. First of all, James Hardie
Industries has for the last eight years been based in the Netherlands. And originally it moved to
Holland to save tax, and that's because it makes most of its money these days in the United States,
and the US and Holland have had a tax treaty which was favourable for Hardies.

Those rules are changing, so Hardies has spent some time looking around for another home and
Ireland was attractive both on a tax basis and on rules which, unlike those in Holland, don't tie
Hardie's senior executives to spending too much time in Ireland.

So if shareholders approve the relocation, those executives can spend more time living and working
closer to their customer base in the US, and in Australia.

PETER CAVE: What will this move mean for those victims of asbestos that Hardie owes money to? Will
it in any way lessen their ability to pay, or their liability to pay?

SIMON SANTOW: Well, Hardies has long made the link that the more profitable it is, the more it will
be able to comfortably meet its liabilities to the asbestos injuries compensation fund, or what's
known as the AICF.

Despite the fact that it's spending in the vicinity of about 100 million Australian dollars to move
to Ireland, the company thinks it will be much better off down the track. And of course Hardie,
just like every listed company, has had a tough year on the stock market.

In its announcement today, the chief executive officer Louis Gries was at pains to say the move to
Ireland won't change the company's overall commitment to make contributions to the compensation

LOUIS GRIES: It doesn't change anything about the AICF, our commitment to the AICF. It's expected
to have benefits medium- to long- term, so that we believe favours all stakeholders - shareholders,
um, shareholders, lenders; AICF - right across the board.

PETER CAVE: And that was Louis Gries, the chief executive of James Hardie, speaking to analysts
this morning.

Simon, apart from getting the nod from their shareholders, do Hardies have to talk to the
Government or anyone else about its move?

SIMON SANTOW: Well, the company has already been in discussions with the New South Wales
Government, and you'd be aware that they had those crisis talks a couple of years ago, when it
looked like the compensation fund had run out of money, and asbestos sufferers and their families
were going to be really doing it tough.

They'll now need to speak to the Australian Tax Office about any new tax rulings on the money it's
contributing to this, to these sufferers and their families. And apart from that of course, there
are those shareholders meetings, and there'll be one in Sydney and some still in Europe, to be held
in the middle of August.

PETER CAVE: But what hold will the Government have over them once they move?

SIMON SANTOW: Well, I think they do have some contractual legal obligations still, but it is that
moral power, that power that we saw with Bernie Banton - the late Bernie Banton - when he was able
to make the case so compellingly that Hardies needed to do their corporate duty.

PETER CAVE: Simon Santow reporting live in the studio today.

Queensland traffic planning hits a hump

Queensland's auditor-general has found the current multi-billion dollar infrastructure spending
plan for Brisbane's transport system lack integration. The revelation hasn't gone down well with
either locals or visitors who find traffic in and around Brisbane is often frustrating.

PETER CAVE: Traffic in and around Brisbane is a mess and a constant frustration for locals and
visitors alike and now Queensland's auditor-general has found the current multi-billion dollar
infrastructure spending plans lack integration.

It comes just a fortnight after the auditor found that health planning is also poor.

Callers to talkback radio say simple solutions are being overlooked, but a demographer says the
problems won't deter the high rate of migration to the Sunshine State.

Annie Guest reports from Brisbane.

(sound of traffic horns)

ANNIE GUEST: This could be the noise Brisbane drivers would like to make, as many sit in traffic
for several hours a day.

There has been hope that the Queensland Government's multi-billion dollar infrastructure program
would fix the problems. But now there's a dampener on that optimism. The auditor-general has
criticised planning and co-ordination at the state level. His report tabled in Parliament says
there's been a lack of leadership, poor co-ordination between departments, and decisions have been
made based on old data.

The Public Works Minister Robert Schwarten has been out opening a bicycle facility today and he's
distanced himself from the criticism, but has not defended his colleagues.

ROBERT SCHWARTEN: I can answer for my portfolio and I can say without fear of contradiction that we
do coordinate across government very well and as I said you will have to ask the other ministers
what they have to say about that, that's a matter for the Premier.

ANNIE GUEST: There's been heavy migration to the Sunshine State, so problems with road congestion
have now been going on for years. It hasn't been enough to have the 11-year-old Government tipped
out, but callers to ABC Local Radio this morning said simple solutions are often overlooked.

CALLER: The express buses can't stop in bus ways because there's only two bays or so for the buses
that aren't express to pull in; so all the other buses wait and there would have been 20 or 30
buses and they all queue because some buses have to stop. And it's a basic design fault.

CALLER 2: I often get caught at a red arrow and there's actually no traffic coming towards me in
the opposite direction and often there's, you know, a line of traffic behind me.

CALLER 3: If you've got a good employee why can't you trust them to do the work from home? You've
got a massive relief on the traffic congestion in Brisbane.

ANNIE GUEST: The Government says it welcomes the report and it says co-operation between its
departments should now improve because it's amalgamated the transport and main roads agencies.
However the RACQ Spokesman Gary Fites is yet to be convinced.

GARY FITES: We think it is a step in the right direction but it's a very belated step and I think
it's too early to judge how well that would work. As for the billions spent I think the key
question there is how has it been spent what evaluations have been done on the various solutions
they've come up with?

ANNIE GUEST; Meanwhile Queensland continues to attract the most migrants of any state or territory.
It has slowed a bit, but last year there was a net gain of 30,000 people to Queensland's the
four-million plus population.

And the University of Queensland demographer, Professor Martin Bell says he can't see the source of
the traffic problems hitting a red light any time soon.

MARTIN BELL: I would expect to see those numbers continue to grow, south east Queensland is
attractive to young families, it's rarely been the retiree destination that people have it as a
stereotype. I think we're going to see continuing growth of lifestyle migration in to here, of
services and personal services and tourism related migration into this part of the world.

ANNIE GUEST: So sitting in traffic, sometimes for up to three hours a day is not enough to deter
people from wanting to come and live in south east Queensland?

MARTIN BELL: Personally I find it very deterring but the experience worldwide is that the net
effect is pretty small.

PETER CAVE: The University of Queensland's Professor Martin Bell, ending that report from Annie
Guest in Brisbane.

Merauke Five fly to freedom

Sightseers William Scott Bloxam, his co-pilot wife Vera, Keith Mortimer, Karen Burke and Hubert
Hofer have just been released by Indonesian authorities in the province of Papua. They became known
as the Merauke Five, after being detained for the past nine months.

PETER CAVE: Five Australians have returned home after a sightseeing visit to Indonesia's Papua
Province went terribly wrong nine months ago.

They've been in and out of jail in the Papuan town of Merauke ever since.

So long and unexpected was their ordeal that the pilot William Scott Bloxam, his co-pilot wife
Vera, their passengers, Keith Mortimer, Karen Burke and Hubert Hofer had become known as the
'Merauke Five'.

But this morning they're home again, after returning to the Torres Strait in the plane the left in
on September the 12th last year.

Indonesia correspondent Geoff Thompson has been following the story. He joins me now.

PETER CAVE: Geoff, how did this weekend go so badly wrong?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Well, the first problem Peter is that they did attempt to fly into a very sensitive
area of Indonesia, without visas or security clearances. They were given what appears to be
temporary permission to land, in the hope that they could get away after their weekend bungle, but
that turned into a nine-month nightmare for them, and at one point they were actually sentenced...
the pilot was sentenced to three years' jail, and the passengers were sentenced to two years jail

That was eventually overturned, but that wasn't the end of their ordeal - it went on and on.

PETER CAVE: It did go on and on, but indeed their convictions were quashed months ago. Why weren't
they released then?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Well, the thing is the prosecutors dug their heels in. And they were ready at the
airport, they were ready to go - this was around the beginning of the year. They were almost on
that plane to leave, but then the prosecutors filed an appeal trying to overturn the decision which
freed them, and the Attorney-General's department in Jakarta dug its heels in as well, and it's
just been months and months of paperwork and shuffling as the Supreme Court in Indonesia worked its
way towards making its decision.

And since that decision, they've been trapped there for another week and a half.

PETER CAVE: There have been suggestions in the media that their treatment was partly motivated by
Indonesian anger over the treatment of Indonesian fishermen by Australian authorities burning their
boats and so on. How true do you think that is?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Look, there's some truth in it. The documents filed in the Court by the prosecutors
said look, we should apply the letter of the law to these Australians, unlike the way they treat
our Indonesian fishermen at home, who burn their boats without, you know, before trial.

So there was certainly an awareness of this issue. But I think what's far more true is that this
was as much about complete bureaucratic intransigence and just you know, what happens even when I
try to get things done in Indonesia - it takes forever.

And it can simply be the guy leaving the paperwork at the bottom of the in-tray because he wants to
go play another game of golf.

PETER CAVE: Well, we know they're safely back on Horn Island in the Torres Strait now. Do you know
what they plan to do now that they're home?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Well, I know that some representatives of William Scott-Bloxam's company - he's got
a charter flight company - they met them at the airport. I also know that Keith Mortimer has
basically headed back to his boat, the boat that he lives on, just to gather his thoughts. I also
know that a public relations company has been engaged to manage their affairs.

So we may hear something about deals being negotiated with commercial networks to tell their story,
to try and recoup some of the losses they've obviously made over the past nine months.

PETER CAVE: Geoff Thompson on the line there from Jakarta.

Diplomatic divisions dominate, as people power peters out

As anti-government protests in Tehran die down, the diplomatic stoush heats up. President Barack
Obama has condemned Iran's clampdown; Iran has accused the west of meddling and expelled two
British diplomats; while Britain has expelled two Iranian diplomats.

PETER CAVE: President Barack Obama has strongly condemned the unjust actions of Iran in clamping
down on election protests but he says it patently false of Iran to accuse the west of stirring up
trouble in Iran.

The stringent crackdown by security forces appears to have ended the street protests for the moment
and the country's Supreme Ruler Ayatollah Khamenei has promised to extend by five days the deadline
for accepting complaints about the election on the 12th of June.

As well as attacking the US, Iran has accused UN chief Ban Ki-moon of meddling and has expelled two
British diplomats after accusing them of spying.

The British Government responded in kind ordering two Iranian diplomats out of the UK.

Stephanie Kennedy reports from London

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: Iran has singled out the UK in its widespread condemnation of what it calls
meddling by foreign powers in its affairs. Both Iran's Supreme Leader and President Ahmadinejad
have accused Britain of fomenting the public unrest.

Last Friday the Ayatollah, ratcheted up the rhetoric labelling the UK as evil and accusing Britain
of using the presidential election to destabilise the Islamic republic. Then on Sunday the regime
expelled the BBC's Iran correspondent and claimed that agents of the British secret services had
been infiltrating Iran in droves.

Now it's emerged that a day later two British diplomats were expelled for engaging in what Tehran
describes as activities incompatible with their status, that's code for spying. In London Britain
called in Iran's ambassador and the Prime Minister Gordon Brown announced tit-for-tat expulsions.

GORDON BROWN: It is therefore with regret that I should inform the House that Iran yesterday took
the unjustified step of expelling two British diplomats over allegations which are absolutely
without foundation.

In response to that action we informed the Iranian ambassador earlier today that we would expel two
Iranian diplomats from their embassy in London. I'm disappointed that Iran has placed us in this

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: Twenty-four hours earlier, Britain pulled out the families of its entire
diplomatic staff in Tehran fearing the embassy would be the focus of an anti-Western rally. There
were concerns that this could trigger a repeat of 1979, when students stormed the US embassy and
held 52 diplomats hostage for 444 days.

Conservative MP Ben Wallace is the chair of the all party group on Iran and explains why Britain
has been singled out by Tehran.

BEN WALLACE: Well Iran has three big powers of evil or bogeymen that it uses all the time and it's
America, Israel and Britain. Mainly Britain because of its historical links to Iran and of course
Britain is the only one of the three that has an embassy and has diplomatic relations. And
therefore it is the obvious whipping boy when Iran wants to make a point.

What the Iranian Government and the current regime want is a bogeyman to blame everything on, they
want to say that this is not about an internal issue, this is not about the other presidential
candidates, this is something that is whipped up by the outside world.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: And he believes London will have to tread a very cautious line in its future
relations with Tehran's leaders.

BEN WALLACE: What we go from here - is let's try and make sure that we are not made the bogeyman
but also that Iran knows that we're no pushover either when it comes to being treated in a bad way.

STEPHANIE KENNEDY: And that may not be so easy given Tehran now refers to Britain as 'Little
Satan'. In London this is Stephanie Kennedy reporting for The World Today.

Maori caught up in alleged immigration scam

A Maori activist in New Zealand is facing charges of selling residency papers to Pacific Islanders
who've outstayed their visas. Gerrard Otimi allegedly told his victims if they signed up for his
services they'd be protected by his tribe, but his papers had no official status.

PETER CAVE: Across to New Zealand now, where relations between Maori and Pacific Islanders have
been damaged by an immigration scandal.

A Maori activist has appeared in an Auckland court today facing charges of selling residency papers
to Pacific Islanders who've outstayed their visas.

The papers have no official status - they're indeed worthless. The man allegedly told his victims
if they signed up for his services, they would be protected by his tribe.

New Zealand correspondent Kerri Ritchie reports.

KERRY RITCHIE: Gerrard Otimi doesn't think he's done anything wrong. He admits accepting money from
scared Pacific Islanders whose visas to be in New Zealand had expired. But the Maori activist says
he helped, by putting immigration stamps and certificates in their passports.

GERRARD OTIMI: I didn't go out and publicise this anywhere, I advertised in the radio (inaudible)
here that we are having meeting regarding Maori economic development. I met the people of the
Samoan family, they said can you help us, well this is what we do, we're establishing our own
economic framework.

KERRY RITCHIE: That economic framework allegedly involved Pacific Islanders parting with $500 - and
in exchange they got some worthless paperwork in their passport. Police say when they raided
Otimi's home they found $40,000 in cash. South Auckland Police crime manager John Timms says a lot
of vulnerable people have been taken advantage of.

JOHN TIMMS: They've been payed on, they've been part of the scam but they also have immigration
issues that they need to resolve. These immigration issues can only be resolved by Immigration New

KERRY RITCHIE: At the police press conference, one reporter asked if Otimi was delusional.

JOHN TIMMS: He's a passionate man who believes in his cause, he's has welcomed the police
investigation and he's looking forward to having certain issues being played out ion the criminal

KERRY RITCHIE: The New Zealand Government believes there are about 16,000 over-stayers in the
country. New Zealand's immigration department has admitted it doesn't have the resources to go
after them.

Police want victims of immigration scams to contact them. But not surprisingly, most over-stayers
taken advantage of keen to stay well away from authorities. One Maori woman let Otimi know what she
thought of him, at a community meeting organised to discuss people's concerns.

MAORI WOMEN: ...want a stamp on their passport that says Mr Top Not (phonetic) ... told me I could stay
in Waitara... no, are a very bad person

MAN: When we have people here, we have people here right, that are being sent home that are
destitute and they want to stay here. What can you do?

WOMAN: They got to go through the right channel.

KERRY RITCHIE: But Otimi says he's just doing what the immigration department has failed to do,
helping Pacific Islanders make a new and better life in New Zealand.

GERRARD OTIMI: There are a lot of scared people, and the hurt. My texts on my phone that when you
read them it's please, please, please can you help me please. Old people can you help me please, 70
year olds can you help us please.

The plea our there is for help.

KERRY RITCHIE: Otimi represented himself in a South Auckland court this morning. He faced three
charges of deception. The police say it's more than likely further charges will be laid.

If he's convicted, Otimi could spend up to a year in jail.

This is Kerri Ritchie in Auckland reporting for The World Today.

MP warns British voters could determine local elections

A Federal MP has raised concerns that more than 160,000 British residents who vote in Australian
elections could determine their outcome. Daryl Melham says it's a hangover from the British Empire,
and they should instead seek citizenship before 2014 or lose their right to vote.

PETER CAVE: The right to vote is one of the benefits Australian citizenship.

Yet is seems that more than 100,000 British subjects are exercising that right without bothering to
become Australians.

Federal Labor MP Daryl Melham says these foreign voters could make a difference in an early

He says that they should lose their voting rights unless they take out citizenship in the next five

Meredith Griffiths reports.

MEREDITH GRIFFITHS: Lily Murray votes in Australia's elections, but she isn't Australian.

LILY MURRAY: I never really actually realised that British people had to be naturalised, I thought
we were all the same because we all have British passports when I came, I just, I never thought
about it

Federal MP Daryl Melham says she's just one of nearly 163,000 people on the electoral roll who
aren't citizens.

He says they come from about 25 countries in the former British Empire.

The Federal Member for Banks has been looking into this as part of his job chairing the Joint
Standing Committee on Electoral Matters.

He says when the Electoral Act was amended in 1984 the benefit of the doubt was given to those
British subjects already on the roll, allowing them to stay on.

DARLYL MELHAM: At the time there was a live argument, in relation to British subjects and
Australian citizenship. That ceased when we passed the Australia Act which severed most of the
remaining constitutional links between the Commonwealth and the state governments.

And that's what the High Court said as of the 3rd of March 1986, it is beyond doubt that British
subjects who are not Australian citizens are subject to a foreign power and so are aliens.

MEREDITH GRIFFITHS: Daryl Melham says that was reinforced in 1999 when the High Court ruled that
Heather Hill couldn't become a Senator because she didn't have Australian citizenship. But Daryl
Melham says Parliament has ignored the issue.

DARLYL MELHAM: I think it is now inexcusable; because if Australian citizens go overseas and don't
come back within six years, they lose the right to vote. Now because we are closing the roles on
the same day as an election is called Australian citizens would lose the right to vote if they
don't get on the role or change their enrolment.

Yet we're allowing British subjects to still get a say in Australian elections.

MERIDETH GRIFFITHS: Britain lets residents from all the Commonwealth countries and the European
Union vote without becoming citizens, but Daryl Melham says it's not right that British people who
were here before 1984 can vote, when no other non-citizens are allowed to. He says those British
citizens can make a difference in elections.

DARLYL MELHAM: There are eight divisions with more than 2500 and 62 divisions with more than 1000
of these electors on the roles, and at the last election we had six divisions with final margins of
less than 1000 votes.

So this could have made the difference in an early election. It's untenable.

MERIDETH GRIFFITHS; Daryl Melham says British subjects should become Australian citizens by 2014 or
lose their right to vote. He says it shouldn't be a problem because since 2002 people have been
allowed to hold both Australian and British citizenship. But Lily Murray who's been here since 1950
says she'd rather give up her voting rights than become an Australian citizen.

LILY MURRAY: I think maybe I was being called a pommy once too often, maybe I was just beaten up at
school once too often. So maybe it's just stuck with me and I mean look, you know, unless some
people think that I'm getting some advantage of being here, my husband and I, we're both self
funded retirees so we don't get anything from Australia, we don't get any pension or anything.

All I have is a seniors card which enables me to go into town on the bus for $2.50 and spend lots
of money at David Jones, nothing. And Australia's a mighty country and a mighty people being
British is something I've always been so proud of. Sometimes it seems to me that it's all I've had
in my life.

MERIDETH GRIFFITHS: You wouldn't have to lose that, you could become a dual citizen; would you?

LILY MURRAY: No I don't like that. I just don't like that idea. I mean I went through customs once
at Heathrow and one guy had an Irish passport, a British passport and he had an Australia passport
and he said to the guy, 'take your pick'. I don't like that, you're either one thing or the other.

MERIDETH GRIFFITHS: Daryl Melham has made his recommendation in a report tabled to Parliament and
he hopes it's going to kick start a debate.

PETER CAVE: Meredith Griffiths reporting.

NSW unions push for all states to get special powers

NSW unions push for all states to get special powers

George Roberts reported this story on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:45:00

Unions in NSW fear their right to prosecute employers for safety breaches will be lost under
proposed new national laws. They're lobbying the Federal Government to get the provisions adopted
nationwide, but business groups think the powers could be abused.

PETER CAVE: Unions say that workers in New South Wales will lose a last ditch avenue for protection
against unsafe workplaces if new federal laws go ahead.

They want the union special power to prosecute employers over safety breaches to stay put and even
to be extended across Australia under proposed occupational health and safety laws. But business
groups say WorkCover already has that power and their best placed to exercise it.

George Roberts reports.

GEORGE ROBERTS: In the 33 years that Dawn Chamberlain worked in Sydney bank branches, she was
robbed five times. In one of those hold up's she had a gun held to her head.

DAWN CHAMBERLAIN: He'd been there at the same branch two weeks ago and held the branch up without
evidence of a gun and he came back two weeks later with the actual gun and pointed it to my head
and said give me your money.

It threatened my security. I felt vulnerable and this goes through your whole life, your life's
threatened and your sense of comfort has been taken away.

GEORGE ROBERTS: In 2002 the Finance Sector Union began prosecuting banks for not providing a safe
enough workplace. Unions say that led to more than $100-million being spent on safety measures like
bullet proof barriers and they say the benefit to banks was a drop in the number of hold ups from
about 100 a year to less than 20.

Dawn Chamberlain now works for the Finance Sector Union and she doesn't want to see the unions lose
their ability to prosecute employers.

DAWN CHAMBERLAIN: We've got to really protect these laws and make sure that it's not abolished
because at the end of the day people need protection.

GEORGE ROBERTS: Unions in New South Wales have been alone with this OHS provision that's now under
threat under the proposed national standard. They want the power to prosecute extended to other
states, otherwise they fear workers in new emerging industries, such as renewable energy and
nanotechnology, may be left unprotected.

The head of Unions New South Wales, Mark Lennon.

MARK LENNON: The primary purpose of these court actions is to improve worker's safety and that's
been proven to be effective as we've seen in the case with the banks.

GEORGE ROBERTS: But business groups are keen on the new uniform laws, saying the Government body
WorkCover already has the power to prosecute.

The New South Wales Business Chambers' Paul Ritchie says that's the way it should be.

PAUL RITCHIE: They also have the legal backup to ensure that there's proper prosecutions. So
WorkCover do have the right to get evidence, they do have the right to get statements and they do
have the right to enter premises. These are rights that unions don't have nor should have.

GEORGE ROBERTS: He says the union's right to prosecute is open to abuse.

PAUL RITCHIE: In removing the union right to prosecute, it also removes the union right to receive
half the fines.

GEORGE ROBERTS: The unions say that they don't profit from these court proceedings and they say
that that's not the purpose; their primary purpose is to protect workers.

PAUL RITCHIE: Well if that's the case, why isn't there confidence in government itself to actually
undertake the prosecution as it does in every other part of law in Australia?

GEORGE ROBERTS: Unions New South Wales say bank staff safety is an example of where the Government
fell down and that's why unions need the powers.

Union officials and employees from the affected sectors are making their case to the Federal
Government in Canberra today.

PETER CAVE: George Roberts with that report.

And a statement from the Federal Government says that a national review found no meaningful
evidence that private prosecutions led to better safety outcomes.

Internet body considers joining the dots

By next year, popular domain names including .com and .org could be competing with .food, .eco and
even .Sydney. The Internet's peak governance body is considering an address system overhaul which
is backed by the NSW Premier and the Federal Communications Minister.

PETER CAVE: Within 12 months Australians could see an expansion of web domain names, beyond the
present 21 domains, which include dot com, the dot org and dot net.

That's if a proposal by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, known as ICANN, is
embraced and rolled out on time.

The issue of domain names was at the centre of attention at a week-long conference, hosted by the
Internet's peak governance body this week.

But some IT experts are concerned about the implications of such an expansion.

Esther Han reports.

ESTHER HAN: Web addresses as we know them are in for a big overhaul.

PAUL LEVINS: We're all familiar with the dot coms, the dot orgs, the dot infos - that's what they
call a 'top level domain' in a domain name. We're going to expand that space so that can have an
almost limitless supply or suggestion of expressions.

ESTHER HAN: Paul Levins is the vice-president of corporate affairs at the Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers.

He says if ICANN's proposal goes ahead, the Internet address system could be revolutionised by
April 2010.

PAUL LEVINS: The Premier of New South Wales talking about the potential for a dot Sydney address.
So there's you know, the Mayor of Paris has talked about a dot Paris. But then there's generic,
other generic names for example, that are non-geographic: dot eco, supported by Al Gore; dot food,
supported by the famous American chef Wolfgang Puck.

So there's a lot of interest in the expansion of that name space.

ESTHER HAN: This is the main talking point of a week-long international conference hosted by ICANN
in Sydney.

The proposal's got the backing from Communications Minister Stephen Conroy. He told the conference
the plans are essential for the globalisation of the Internet.

But not everyone's feeling so assured. Associate Professor Bjorn Landfeldt is an information
technology expert from the University of Sydney.

BJORN LANDFELDT: Traditionally there has been a very well-defined structure. The structure has led
to some kind of order. So we have some rules that guide us how we get to information and structure

But it's also been restrictive and there's been a marketplace for very good names. Classic examples
is a case in the US with Nissan v Nissan, when Nissan Motor Corp basically stole the
address from a small company in the US - was well publicised as quite a nasty affair.

ESTHER HAN: Peter Coroneos is the chief executive of the Internet Industry Association.

He's not sure whether the expansion of domain names would reduce trademark and intellectual
property disputes.

PETER CORONEOS: One of the issues that is going to need to be confronted here in the implementation
of a dramatic expansion of domain names is how in fact you would handle the intellectual property

In other words, who will have the stronger claim to a pre-existing name: is it the person that gets
in there first and registers it, or is it the person who has a registered trademark in a number of

ESTHER HAN: But Paul Levins says ICANN will set a fair assessment procedure if two parties contend
for the same name.

PAUL LEVINS: So there's an application process that takes into account the various checks and
balances for those names. So that there'll be a comparative evaluation of the merits of the
different applicants that'll take place.

And in the spirit of the ICANN model, it'll be a cooperative arrangement where we analyse both
those applications and try and, through a process, discern who is best equipped to be able to
operate that top level domain.

ESTHER HAN: Despite the risks, ICANN is confident the biggest change to the Internet ever attempted
will be successful.

PETER CAVE: Esther Han with that report.

Dokic dumped, and Damir still in doghouse

Dokic dumped, and Damir still in doghouse

Steve Pearce reported this story on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:52:00

Jelena Dokic has lost her first round match at Wimbledon, signalling a mid-year slump after making
the quarter-finals on her return to grand slams at this year's Australian Open. She also says
there's no hope of reconciliation with her jailed father Damir in Belgrade.

PETER CAVE: What started off as a fairytale year has morphed closer to an annus horribilis for
Australian tennis player Jelena Dokic.

The 26-year-old was a quarter-finalist on her return to the major tennis scene in this year's
Australian Open, but last night at Wimbledon she was dumped.

Afterwards she rejected reports she was considering visiting her jailed father Damir in Belgrade,
and says there's no hope of a reconciliation.

Steve Pearce was courtside to watch both her exit from Wimbledon and the very public dramas of her
private life.

STEVE PEARCE: Jelena Dokic has had one of the more extraordinary careers of anyone in Australian
tennis in recent years.

A much hyped teenager who made the last four at Wimbledon nine years ago, she later disappeared
from the sport, due largely to her destructive relationship with her controversial father Damir.

Dokic senior is now in jail in Belgrade for threatening Australian Embassy staff, after a recent
article alluded to a physically abusive relationship with his daughter.

The 26-year-old has had to deal with questions about her father for the last decade and it was no
different after her first round defeat at the hands of German qualifier Tatiana Malik.

REPORTER: Jelena how hard has it been over the last couple of months to block out another one with
your father with the distractions that he must bring to you with what's gone on?

JELENA DOKIC: You know, at the Australian Open I think I've answered all the questions regarding
that, so it's just something that hasn't been a part of my life for a long time and something that
also took me a long time to figure out and get over.

So I really don't think that for me to answer questions regarding that every time he does
something, I just don't see it necessary because it really has nothing to do with me. I haven't
even been reading the papers or the Internet and I didn't even have any idea what was going on and
then finding out that I'm in some other country when I'm practising is boring.

STEVE PEARCE: Pressed further, Dokic sought a very public end to the relationship that has hurt her
most since she burst onto the tennis scene as a 15-year-old.

JELENA DOKIC: It's okay. Once now and forever there is nothing, no way that I would ever reunite
with him or ever have a relationship with him. So, this is the last sentence ever you guys will
hear from me and that's the way it is.

STEVE PEARCE: Public affection waned for some years in Australia, especially when the Serbian-born
prodigy packed her bags to return to Europe, during one of the more difficult periods in her life.
And whilst she now has the public support once more, she's more than ready to admit hers hasn't
been a normal existence.

JELENA DOKIC: I think I've had a very strange situation with everything going on off the court. I
think maybe sometimes people look at that and that makes a difference. But you know I would like
the people to come and watch me and see me as a tennis player, not because of something else.

STEVE PEARCE: Dokic says there were times in recent years when she thought about a future without
tennis but it's a future without her father and his antics that she seems to truly crave.

This is Steve Pearce at Wimbledon for The World Today.

Positive statements a downer for doubters

New research has found positive mantras can have the reverse effect on people with low self-esteem,
by leading them to focus on what they perceive to be their negative traits. Psychologists say
changing behaviour is a more effective way of boosting confidence and esteem.

PETER CAVE: The theory behind the power of positive thinking has been dealt a blow with new
research showing that positive statements could do more harm than good.

A study of psychology students in Canada has found that affirmations can leave some people feeling
worse instead of boosting their confidence.

It seems that positive statements can magnify negative self-perceptions in people with low

Emily Bourke compiled this report.

(Sound of Barack Obama chanting, "Yes we can, yes we can")

EMILY BOURKE: It might have worked for Barack Obama, but the latest news on the power of
affirmations is a bit of downer. And the word on positive self talk is that maybe you shouldn't.

As Professor Joanne Wood from the University of Waterloo in Ontario explains.

JOANNE WOOD: We used university undergraduates and we identified them as low and high in
self-esteem. And we randomly assigned them to a condition in which they repeated the statement "I
am a loveable person" each time they heard a doorbell, and then they completed some mood measures.

So that's how we learned that people who repeated the statement, if they were high in self-esteem
they felt better than people who didn't repeat the statement. But if they were low in self-esteem,
it actually boomeranged and they felt worse.

EMILY BOURKE: How can that be?

JOANNE WOOD: Well, we think that, because for the low self-esteem person it might elicit the
opposite thought. So if I say to myself I'm a lovable person and I'm low in self-esteem, I may
start to think well "No, I'm not, and here are the ways in which I'm not a lovable person." And
then those kinds of thoughts could grow to overwhelm the positive self-esteem.

GERARDINE ROBINSON: And that would be my experience, my anecdotal experience working with people.
That just getting them to say positive things to themselves does not work.

EMILY BOURKE: Gerardine Robinson is a clinical psychologist based in Sydney.

GERARDINE ROBINSON: So if we can teach people to visualise themselves moving from a helpless mode
into a competent mode. When we're in a competent mode we can grow, we're creative, we can think of
multiple solutions to problems; we can be nurturing and healing of ourselves and others, and be

So what I work with is those two types of visualisations; of being in a helpless mode, and teaching
a client to imagine themselves in a competent mode, acting "as if". It's a little bit like the AA
axiom 'fake it 'til you make it'.

So if you can teach a client to act as if they're in a competent mode, to imagine themselves in a
competent mode, and how they would behave and think. So that's actually changing their behaviour.

EMILY BOURKE: The visualisation - is that so much different from positive statements, affirming

GERARDINE ROBINSON: Yes it is. If you're feeling down or ineffective, and I say 20 things to you
and only one of them is negative, which one are you going to remember? So you see, the way you feel
can influence the way you think, whereas what I'm saying is behave differently, and that will
influence the way that you think about yourself and the way you view the world.

EMILY BOURKE: Still, positive mantras find themselves on T-shirts, bumper stickers, and billboards,
and they've filled the pages of self-help books. There are CDs, healing cards, and daily
affirmations can even be sent to your mobile phone.

So the Canadian research might come as a shock to advocates of the affirmation business. But it's
unlikely to shock those who've been persisting with the self-help phrases.

Professor Joanne Wood again:

JOANNE WOOD: One thing that strikes a chord with some insecure people is that I think they have
felt frustrated that they've been receiving the message that all they have to do is tell themselves
positive things. And when they find that that has not worked for them they feel frustrated.

I think this tells them they're not alone in this frustration. That they can't expect a
simple-minded statement that doesn't feel right to them would have a positive effect.

(Music plays)

PETER CAVE: Professor Joanne Wood from the University of Waterloo in Ontario ending Emily Bourke's