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ASHLEY HALL: The Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, has just arrived at the Presidential Palace in the
Indonesian capital Jakarta, after laying a wreath at the National Heroes Cemetery in the south of
the city.

Mr Rudd's talks with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono are expected to focus on co-operation in
the areas of security, forestry and climate change initiatives and disaster relief.

Our Indonesia correspondent Geoff Thompson is at the Palace and joins me now.

Geoff, how is Kevin Rudd being received in Indonesia?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Well, look he is being received very warmly. He just walked before a brass band and
I think it was a 21-gun salute. They are all looking very shiny in their red coats and under the
early morning sun here in Jakarta.

Now I think more broadly, there have been some concern about the fact that Kevin Rudd has visited
China and much of the world before coming here, but I don't think that has upset anyone seriously
given that Indonesia during his trip to Bali was Kevin Rudd's first overseas trip as Prime
Minister.

So I think generally, very warmly.

ASHLEY HALL: What sort of big announcements are expected from his talks with the President today?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Look, it is difficult to say exactly but I think we are expecting some sort of
climate change co-operation focus. Perhaps something more formal which will coalesce some of the
anti-deforestation initiatives begun by the Howard government and I know that President Yudhoyono
is wanting to discuss the G8 meeting in Toyako next month, particularly focusing on food security
so there may be some sort of formal climate change partnership and of course, there will also be
talks on security co-operation and building on the Lombok Treaty signed in 2006 and also
co-operation in natural disasters.

ASHLEY HALL: What is that we hear in the background, Geoff?

GEOFF THOMPSON: That is the shiny brass band I was telling you about. The dignitaries have
disappeared inside, but now the band is continuing to play in front of a fountain on the front lawn
of the palace.

ASHLEY HALL: Now the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd has been outlining a plan for a new Asia-Pacific
regional grouping. Has that been raised in these meetings?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Look, the meetings are just beginning so we can't say for certain. It is probably
going to be mentioned but I don't think it's going to be a heavy focus and certainly that has been
the indication from the Indonesian side and their feeling is that some of the structures already in
place in the region such as ASEAN and APEC should form the basis of anything more.

So it will be mentioned, but I don't expect it to be a major focus.

ASHLEY HALL: Mr Rudd has visited Indonesia's National Heroes Cemetery. Can you tell us a bit about
that cemetery and why it is important?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Yeah, it was founded by President Sukarno in 1954 and a lot of prominent heroes
from the independence movement are buried there. It was visited in the past by John Howard in 1996
and Paul Keating in 1992 and there are many, many prominent figures from the Indonesian military
there including Benny Moerdani who was one of the commanders during the invasion of East Timor.

ASHLEY HALL: Now the visit has upset one of the relatives of the Balibo Five newsmen who were
murdered in East Timor in 1975. She says he should be visiting the Jakarta cemetery where the men
are buried. Has the issue been raised with Mr Rudd that you are aware of?

GEOFF THOMPSON: Look, I don't think it has been raised by Mr Rudd and may well not be but I expect
it to be raised by at least the reporters here today because of course, Kevin Rudd, when in
opposition, did make a commitment to seeking a repatriation of the remains of the Balibo Five and
we haven't heard a lot of that since that guarantee was made before the election.

ASHLEY HALL: Indonesian correspondent, Geoff Thompson, thanks for joining us.