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a burning question - is the

State Government apro-ing meaningless back-burns to meet

a target? There is no bush

management in and around the town of Marysville to be

seen. And the growing seen. And the growing problem

of dementia. Did I get married? Because I don't Because I don't remember getting married This Program is Captioned Live. Brsh

Hello I'm Josie Taylor. The State Government has followed the bushfires royal Commission

recommendation to conduct

prescribed burning across 5% of public land each year. But

there's growing concern that

remote, easy to burn remote, easy to burn areas are

being targeted and higher being targeted and higher risk difficult areas ignored. difficult areas ignored. As James Bennett reports, James Bennett reports, around the town of Marysville the town of Marysville where 34 people died on Black Saturday,

there's been no burning at all. On Black Saturday, nine of

Steve Guilfoyle's neighbours

died. I said right from the start that I refused to be a

victim and it was my intention to recover with the bush. Well,

looking at the bush now the bush is recovering a lot

quicker than I am, to the point

where it's getting out where it's getting out of hand. Since 2009, the recovery has been

remarkable. I'm standing on the

bush floor now. And but in

there it's 9, 10-feet

high. Steve Guilfoyle has now

rebuilt the family home he rebuilt the family home he lost on Black Saturday. He knows

it's in a high risk area but

can't understand why the

regrowth grounding Marysville is being left unchecked. I am not interested in what not interested in what they're

doing up on the ranges or doing out in the bush. I am

interested in property and lives. I've lost so many of my

neighbours, so many of my

friends. There is - there is

no bush management in an around

the town of Marysville to be seen.

seen. 60 supported in full, five supported in part, one

supported in principle. Recommendation 56

from the bushfire royal commission also Bailleu

Government policy was to burn

5% of public land each

year. When the next really big

fire occurs, people won't ask

did you meet the target, they

will be asking did you burn in

places that reduced the risk to life and life and property? Professor

Mike Clarke was a member of the

royal Commission's expert panel

on fuel reduction. Even though

the 5% target was based on

their work, it wasn't what their work, it wasn't what he and fellow experts including renowned bushfire scientist Kevin Tolhurst actually recommended. Professor Mike

Clarke says the commission over

simplified it. To have a

blanket 5% across the State, in

all habitats, was potentially

ecologically damage and so that is in

is in the body of the report but not in the final recommendation. Sources within the Department of

Sustainability and Environment

have told '7:30 Victoria' they

feel under im ness pressure to

find burns to meet the

In the words of one employee,

because area burnt is the only

measure reported, area is driving everything. Other staff

fear the 5%, almost 400,000

hectares a year by 2014, is impossible for an impossible for an organisation facing jobless s under kits to

the public service. It was a

large single hectare target across Victoria. You can get

that target most easily, safely

and cheaply, and it discourages the important tbourns the important tbourns public

safety which are the small

local burns which are local burns which are very

expensive, very - take a lot of

time and money, take a lot of resources. Despite the increased work load, the DSC's

land management Budget increased just $25 billion to

$325 million last financial

year. You can't simply burn twice as much as you have before the same number of

people. A lot of it is how we

approach the task as in for

example in the north-east last year there was 26,000 hectare burn north of the Dartmouth dam

which was only burnt 20% of the

year, it was all my helicopter, all lights up bridges and very

little onground support needed.

That is the indication of how

the burn willing be in the

future: Light burns, large

area, low intensity. Ewan Waller's

Waller's ad vision that large

area burns are an indication of

the future are exactly what

many fear. Because they are

under so much pressure from the

Government to meet this 5% target. As a consequence we're

getting increases in levels of

burning and places that can do

ecological damage and we're not getting the risk reduction close to settlements. close to settlements. That was

the emphasis of the royal

commission. Ewan Waller insists

risk production is his focus.

He says the 165,000 hectares

burnt so far this season are evenly split between burns

close townsand large er, more

remotes ones but he admits

summer's floods mean there is little chance they will little chance they will meet

their 225,000 target. In the

meantime, we are reducing the risk across Victoria for the Victorian community. Is the 5% target artificial? What 2

entthe intent is for reduction.

The measure whether it's 5% or

houses protected or whatever it

may be, will work to that over time. While

be brought forward there's none

planned for Mary'sville's asset production zone. That is the

area immediately protecting the

sign. Resident s warn just one

dry summer summer will

transform the lush surrounds into a serious risk. The Government department is responsible. They have a duty

of care to the rez ebt resident

and their properties within the town precinct. There's bulk-bill enough people die in Marysville, 2000. We don't want

any more. Today a second

regional council joined a

growing list of Victorians who

want to stop coal seam gas

exploration. The call comes as a little known company Leichhardt apply Leichhardt apply - Leichhardt Resources applies for licences

to drill for coal seam gas.

That company is also battling a

farming community in northern

NSW as Kathy McLeish reports. Penny and Rob Blatchford's families have in

vest ed in agriculture for

generations My parent s have generations My parent s have always been farmers. My grand

parents as well. It's a good

life. Life on the land is not without challenges. There is no

point think ing you're farming

only for tomorrow. It's long

term and it's our future and

it's the future we want for our

children if they choose

that. Penny Blatchford majored

in law. Now she's applying that knowledge to a challenge the family never saw coming. Now

the petroleum onshore Act I

know quite well and it's unexpected. And not welcome. In

2010, a Brisbane company called

Leichhardt Resources took out a petroleum exploration licence.

Now known as PEL 470 over

properties in this farming area

near Moree in north-west NSW. It meant the properties

were ear marked for coal seam gas exploration. If Leichhardt Resources can make a case for

CSG mining here it would develop the licence to the point that it could be sold to

a larger mining company at a

profit. With the help of

freedom of information, the

community got hold of the company's report. There was probably two

paragraphs and a small table that was algated to the soils

of this region, it says the

soils were through the pro file

and they conluded the soils

were of low agricultural value

- high agricultural vul value. Anyone who has heard of the bladder knows that the soil is

some of the best in NSW and Australia. All 84 land holders under the exploration licence agreed and the battle got

serious. They organised and

contributed 30,000 dollars to contributed 30,000 dollars to

respond to Leichhardt's environmental report. Soil scientist Rob Banks did the tests and he refutes the Leichhardt findings. Can Leichhardt findings. Can only

guess that the people who wrote

it hant been to this

area. They're the most productive dry land soils in

Australia. The land olders say

it only added to it only added to their concerns when they discovered Leichhardt

Resources was actually a shelf

company. Set up for investment of just

investment of just $100. No land holder should have to

enter into an access agreement with a $100 shelf company. Not

when we're running a

multimillion-dollar business. Leichhardt's

exploration expires at the end

of this month and can not be

reviewed without a review by the governments. The Minister has sent their response has sent their response and

soil port gonce the exploration. Along with the

report is an unprecedented petition, signs by every land

holder who would have been

affected by the petroleum

exploration licence. Under NSW law, land olderies can make law, land olderies can make it very difficult for exploration companies to enter their properties. Everyone has their properties. Everyone has locked their gate. Lock the

game! Queensland environment campaigner Drew Hutton is campaigner Drew Hutton is the architect of Lock the

Gate. North to keep their

licence, they have to actually

work the land. So they've got

to show a record of doing

things that indicate they're exploring for gas. If exploring for gas. If they can't prove up the resource, they potentially lose their licence. The NSW Government has licence. The NSW Government has

a hold on exploration licences,

while it develops a while it develops a CSG policy. It was really the mining industry and the extraction industry that extraction industry that was

setting the pollsy and the

pace. What does it sigh to us.

You only need to have You only need to have that robust frame work up-front. The glimpselands, Leichhardt

Resources has applied for new

exploration licences and the community is looking north too. One of the concerning our

farming community has is what

the others have experienced

right across Australia right across Australia and Tasmania in particular have provided some xal examples of what farmers are concerned

about in terms of the impact of exploration on their land, the impact of production with

regard to subsidence, with regards to contamination of

ground water and the like. They're very concerned that

those sorts of things don't

need to be repeated here in

Victoria. Allan Bawden Allan

Bawden is the first to make Bawden is the first to make a submission against the State Government against all Government against all CSG exploration. There's a whole series of investors in this city who are involved in city who are involved in not

necessarily the whole is cess

but one part of it. I don't

particularly know this company but, Leichhardt Resources has

many exploration licences right

across Australia, including many in Victoria. And I guess

the community at the moment is

looking at their activities if other States to see what other States to see what sort

of a mining company they are. And '7:30' sought a response from Leichhardt Resources but it declined to comment. New figurings

released this week show

Victoria's population will grow

by more than 3 million people in the next 40 years. And the majority will live in Melbourne. But the Bailleu Government is yet to release a

long-term plan to deal with that growth. Planning Minister Matthew Guy joined me in Matthew Guy joined me in the studio. Minister, thank you for being being here. Pleasure. Melbourne will be a city of 6.5 million

in 40 years. Does that alarm you? Look, population is

certainly increasing in

Melbourne and I think there's been some periods over the last

10 years wr where it's been at

record levels. I won't be at those record levels over the

coming decades but population

is still growing quite strongly compared to historical level compared to historical level s. Generation Xs are choosing to

have a third child more than their parents. Nair parents are living loner than their grand parents parents so we have to accommodate a planning team

Scheme with a population that

is ageing and also one where

natural in-Reece is larger. You

have have had 18 months to

think about this. When will you release your long-term plan

Melbourne? The Government has

made a number of very clear

statements around population accommodation. We've talked about expanding the central business district. We have mooted some large urban renewable projects for the

central part of Melbourne. Our

focus is on those areas and defined activities so Melbournians know where the change will occur in change will occur in those

define ed suburbs an we have a logical inclusion s committee that is look at growth boundary that is look at growth boundary anomalies and changes. The

Government is working very hard to provide employment

incentives an population incentives an population growth incentives in regional

Victoria. We don't want to grow

a city State we want all of the

state to grow. When will you release release your plan The Metropolitan plan will be

released in the next year. We

are continually reforming the

system. Our changes to zones

will lap in the next few weeks.

Code assess ment which is Code assess ment which is a dreamlined Melbourne of funding

will be announced to and will be announced to and we're

continuing with work around

urban renewal that will see

some significant sights in

former industrial areas in Melbourne come forward Melbourne come forward for residential growth. One of the difference between your

difference between your plan for Melbourne and Labor's plan was that you have dumped was that you have dumped the

idea of building apartment blocks along public transport

route routes in favour of going out. Do you stand by that policy? That is not necessarily

correct. We don't believe in

the free for all the Labor

Party had an the res. We Party had an the res. We think the high growth should be the high growth should be in activity areas. Defined area

where Victorians know that

growth and that change will

occur. You have to have a mix

in growth. It can't be just in

one area, it can't just be in the growth areas or in exist

ing suburbs or urban rule. I needs to be an accommodated plan. I immigration is expected

to be one of the biggest drivers: Do you support the

current intake of immigrations remaining? I think Australia has been

has been built off the wealth

of immigration, the intellectual capital, the physical growth of immigration

I think has been very

beneficial to Australia. So I

think that people need to be realistic about overseas

migration and the level of growth that it has and it certainly will be in time to come. Natural increases is

increasing. People are having

more children, we are living

longer. So the number of

Australians here is only

increasing in its capacity. Overseas migration will be an

element of Australian - in fact

your report says it's the major

driver. It will certainly be the major driver in terms of

num er ically. Will do that because governments because governments support, particularly in Victoria, support the rationale support the rationale behind increasing our population with a mix of natural growth and

overseas migration. I

overseas migration. I certainly

do support it. Is Is that sustainable? Yes, it is. In even in '07s our population growth was higher in percentage

terms than the last decade and

a half. We have learnt today

that half a billion dollar s

has been set aside for a new prison. Given the pressures prison. Given the pressures in

your profit should that be a clear priority. If we're going

to grow our city it needs to to grow our city it needs to be

a safe city. If there is a sentencing regime sentencing regime that increases the number of people that may be behind bars or in

the system the Government might need to accommodate that.

Whether that feet flur s the Budget Budget or not you will see Tuesday. That is Tuesday. That is Kim Wells

Budget and that is up to him to

announce. From the planning

side we want to see Melbourne

grow and we believe the law and

order and the component of

change within it needs to be accommodated. For the record

this is the third week in a row

we've asked the we've asked the Premier Ted Bailleu to be our Bailleu to be our guest and

it's the third week that he's

declined. But we will keep

asking. And staying on the

issue of population, the number of Victorians suffering of Victorians suffering dementia is expected to

increase by half over the next

decade. Last week the Federal Government revealed a multibillion-dollar plan for

aged care. But as Cheryl aged care. But as Cheryl Hall report s it's State Governments that are largely responsible for delivering services. Rob and Carmel

and Carmel McGrath has been

married for 51 years but

sometimes it's hard for Carmel to remember. Did I get married? I don't remember getting married. Have you been living in sin all this time? Gee whiz,

I don't think I'm that good or I don't think I'm that good or

that bad. What do we do about

it? I will have to make you a it? I will have to make you a legal woman, then!

legal woman, then! Yeah. Carmel McGrath has had Alzheimer's disease for 11

years. But two year s she was

still doing what she had still doing what she had done during her long career as during her long career as a teacher - helping children

learn to read. He saw the worms

and - can you do a gasp? So,

Rob, can I ask you what's

changed since last changed since last time we spoke two years ago? The

short-term memory always had

gone downhill at that stage. But the long-term memory

has gone a as has gone a as well. I love what do you call it reading when I

was a child. And I always felt if I could give kids as much

fun I had with reading I'd have - it would be beaut for Carmel McGrath now has trouble recalling the names of

the most important people in

her life - her children and

grandchildren. That's Rachel. That's -

Rachel. That's - that's the

little one. Gosh she will little one. Gosh she will kill

me. I can't remember. Just say

the four names. Tim, Jane, -

Tim, Jane, Rachel, Adrian. Is

that it? I didn't think I'd

know that. The first

girl. First girl. That's Jane. No Jane's daughter. - now Jane's daughter. You won't get

any Christmas presents now.

You're in trouble! . I I will

have to say it - I don't

remember. But they're all beautiful. The other big

change in the McGrath's life is Carmel's recent move to a

nursing home. It was becoming

very difficult for me to - I

had to start admitting Carmel said at the start of the disease after the diagnosis

that when it got to the stage where she didn't know me where she didn't know me or

where she couldn't care for her

own personal needs, no matter what she said at the time, that

is the time she has to go into

care. So we strung that out as long as we could. New research by Alzheimer's Australia

predicts that as the population ages the number of people in Victoria stuff suffer ing from

dementia will grow

rapidly. Dementia is the

condition that will have the greatest greatest social impact of our

time. We need to be having a

funding plan that is going to

address that. In the next 10

years, the number of Victorians

with dementia will increase by

50%. By 2050, Victoria's aged

care system will be strained

with nearly a quarter of a million Victorians needing million Victorians needing care

for dementia. The simple things

you couldn't cook. Without the

danger of a terrible accident -

the hot plates or gas just left on, locking yourself out on, locking yourself out of the house, walking out and not

being able to find your way

back home again. Some of these things have happened even with

me being there. Last week, the Federal Government announced a generous aged care package

which included a major injection of injection of funds for dementia

education and reds denshall

care. - residential care. But

it's the suggest that provides

much of the health and

counseling services which are

scarce in regional areas. They will

will take their tree change or

their sea change to areas like the Barwon region and Narre

Warren South out in the country side. So important that we're

actually able to deliver actually able to deliver the services they need at the time

that they need them. Alzheimer's Australia is

asking Victoria to increase asking Victoria to increase its

funding by a third in next

week's Budget. And has sent

every Victorian parliamentarian

the projected figures for their

the projected figures for their own electorates. The next time

State governments meet the

Prime Minister in Canberra for COAG, they will be asked to

elevate dementia elevate dementia to a national health priority, behind only

cancer and heart disease.

You should be remembering a dance. At the dance, yes, dance. At the dance, yes, we went to a dance at the rugby

ball, at the hall, and he came

over and said, 'Excuse over and said, 'Excuse me, but

are you Ms Lea,' And I said,

'Yes.' And I said to you, 'Are

you - what was your name again,

I've forgotten that one. It's. It's just a horrible

thing to see someone's mind

being sort of stolen from being sort of stolen from them.

So to see someone lose the

skills or what made them skills or what made them the

person they are and have that

sort of be tripped back to -

strip back to almost a 2-year-old it is not nice. It's devastating really. Cheryl Hall with that report. Final ly tonight tonight for footy fans buying the 'Football Record' is as

much a part of the AFL

experience as meat pies and the MCG. The publication has

survived competition from new technology, and this week

celebrates its centenary. As Danny Morgan Danny Morgan reports. As football fans make the weekly pilgrimage to watch their team, they're greeted by a they're greeted by a familiar cry. Records, get your footy

records. Got to have a record.

If you don't have one it's not worth going to the footy. I

don't even know my own team

players let alone the opposition. Buy ing the footy

record to keep track of footy

numbers is a much loved numbers is a much loved vit

ritual that dates back 100

years. The first was printed on April 27, 1912. In 1912, the

league decided to put numbers

on the players jumpers so the natural consequence was natural consequence was there

would be a program for fans at

the footy to take along and find out who the hell that

player was with number 25 on

their back. The publication had

a quaint motto but the open ing editorial showed the game had

big m ambitions

It was really a trumpet of the game. A trumpet of the game, a celebration of

nationalism, almost Christianity in athleticism

that we're better than any other form of football in the country. Sports memorabilia other form of football in the country. Sports

expert Rick Milne says the

growth of the game's popularity

and the rarity of earlier editions editions makes the 'Football

Record' much sought off F Avenue: In the early days almost all of football

followers stood on the outer.

When it rained the programs got

wet and so there was we would

call a high failure rate in the

earlier times compared to

now. He's yet to see any surviving single editions from

the 1912 but the league did

pronounce bounds body os of all

the records at the end of that

year. I would value it at

20,000 because it is the first

one. Of the late es er editions

the most valuable records tend fob from Grand Finals won by teams that have enjoyed little

success since. For instance St

Kilda '66, Footscray 54, they

only have the one. 66 is one of the most important ones. Everybody knows about the Barry

Breen wobbly kick that went through for a point.

through for a point. The saints have a 1-point

lead. Worth about 300 and 350 in really top condition. AFL

historian Col Hutchinson says

another important edition. In the 1958 Grand Final record is

that particular match, the

League in a controversial

decision decided to switch the

vast majority of players

guernsey numbers because a

newspaper at the time had published the numbers without

authority. And so you had 39 of

the 40 selected players around in unfamiliar the 40 selected players running

difficult for everyone: The numbers. Which made it a little

record's circulation hit its

peak in the 1970s and peak in the 1970s and '80s. It was a time before smartphones and the

Internet. Since those times the

circulation has dropped not

alarmingly but regularly. The

has been quite astonishing. Ice attack of media on the record

been able to survive and in many ways flourish. While it's value to collectors seems value to collectors seems to appreciate, the football football's importance has football's importance has been recognised by the State

Library. Ice completed the massive task of digitising every single record so football

Erefaan s can down load them

from the website. You can

probably put it on an equal

footing with trams, St Kilda

Road, the zoo, and the MCG, the

footy record sit fits in there as an icon of little thing they start off

like this and they say we will

hope for the best, to think

that 100 year s on it's still

being printsdsed. I reckon it's great. Dannying forrian

like to get in touch with us reports there. If you would

about a story, please go to our

website. You can follow me on

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will be back on Tuesday, May 1

for a special Budget edition of

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Live. On this edition of One

Plus One, do you believe Plus One, do you believe in

miracles? Kathleen Evans say

she's alive because of one. Lawrence Krauss explains where the universe comes from and improving mental health. Hello, I'm Jane Hutcheon,

welcome to the program. John

Mendoza made a splash when he resigned as the inaugural

of the Government's national resigned as the inaugural chair

advisory council on mental

health in 2010. He accused the

policy. Government of neglecting

the budget policy. A year after that in

the budget the Government

than announced it was investing more

than $2 billion in mental

health initiative s over 5

years. John Mendoza is now part

of Connetica, a government

health consul tancy but he

remain as critic of how mental

health is administered in

Australia. He's particularly

critical of suicide prevention

policy and says the official statistics underestimate the depth of a crisis. John mendoze ashlings welcome to One Plus

One. Thanks, Jane. You've had a One. Thanks, Jane. You've had a

diverse career, even though

it's been in public health. At

chair of the Federal the time you resigned as the


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