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(generated from captions) yen economies. Not enough

people see the mere against of Indonesia as a global

influence. India is the

world's largest democracy. It

is entitled to be accorded that

status. It is not sign the treaty. But the undertakings treaty.

to the international atomic that it has given with respect

suppliers energicy agent and the nuclear

the same protection so far suppliers group which was you

the same protection so far as the use of civil nuclear energy the use

is concerned. It is

substantially substantially the same

that a country entering into the undertaking of that would be required of. At the same time, if we export uranium to India, India would

to India, India would be

required to enter into a

bilateral safeguards agreement

with us. There's no evidence

that India has been involved in

the proliferation of uranium or

other nuclear technologies. is the world's other nuclear technologies. It

is the world's largest

democracy. We should accord it that status. APPLAUSE. Thanks, delegate Smith. Delegates I call delegate

Garrett. APPLAUSE.

Can effectively move to ensure that there's nuclear disarmament worldwide and disarmament a ed greed by peaceful processes of

framework of treaties. That's countries within a multilateral

a view that has been held by a view that has

this government up until this government up until very recently. It is a view that

underpins the assessment that

we have always made as a country that the most effective

way in which we can assure that we do move we do move ourselves disarmament is agreeing through the disarmament treaty non-proliferation treaty is a

nuclear energy produced in We will not have

believe it is necessary for us country because we do not

to meet our energy needs, nor

that it does not impose a risk on populations here and consistency that we have shown

in terms of arguing that we

should have a disarmament framework operating

internationally to which the

nuclear non-proliferation

treaty is a part we should be consistent to as well. APPLAUSE. I acknowledge that

India is indeed a country of growing importance and the

world's largest democracy.

That is acknowledged and I acknowledge that they acknowledge that they have consistently said that they would not sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty nor

the comprehensive test ban

treaty. Those treaties which

are in place to ensure are in place to ensure that

nations agree on the path nations agree on the path to

disarmament. What we are now

saying is that we will make a

Australian Governments of both that one off exception to a policy

political persuasions one

nearly four decades. In saying

that, we are sending a very

not only to countries in our clear and very strong

region, but also to the disarmament community that our region, but also to the global

commitment to the disarmament

regime that we've always held

and we've always argued for has

been weakened. I make this

at the wording of the point to point to you. Would you look

at the wording of the minimum, the wording of the

encouraging all nuclear states itself called for and

to join the non-proliferation

treaty F that's the Skase, if

that's the intent of this amendment, then why are amendment, then why are we

reversing our long held

position that all countries

that we sell uranium too should

be parties to that treaty. be parties to that treaty. I

amendment itself. APPLAUSE. amendment can see it specifically in this

I ask you to make your concluding remarks. I concluding

conclude by saying this. I

know that there

of opinion here, differences

both within factions and within

the party, but Labor has a

great disarmament tradition.

That's why I'm here. A great disarmament

disarmament tradition. Of

course I would like to see it

strengthened. Where is our

vision here? Where is our commitment to a nuclear free

future. Where is our

commitment to things like a nuclear weapons flee nuclear weapons flee convention and where is our insist sense

that those values that we've

stood for in the past and those

measures that we've considered were absolutely crucial to disarmament should be

delegate, we should oppose this motion. APPLAUSE. I Delegates, we hear much

talk about the light on the

hill. I don't want Labor's

light on the hill to be light on the hill to be a Green, pulsating nuclear light. Prime Minister, you are wrong. Ministers, you are Ministers, you are wrong.

Premier, you are wrong.

This is the wrong thing to This is the wrong thing to do.

Forget all the documents about

jobs, it's a side show. Forget jobs, it's a side show.

all the other arguments you

have heard here. The real

argument here is are we going

to export uranium to a who has had three wars with its neighbour.A country who is nuclear weapons into its neighbours. That is the

question for us today and this

is not a proper thing for us to

do. The Prime Minister has said

we are going to get stringent safe guards. My question to you

Prime Minister is this; if the

out of India, how are you going

(APPLAUSE) to do it?

If Canada can't If Canada can't get proper safe yards out of India, how

are you going to do it? You will

will fail to do it. Prime

Minister, you can nod your head

but you are going to do something George Bush couldn't

do, that's good, let's see how

you do it because that is your

test. This is a bad move for

the Labor Party, it is a bad

move for international

relation to nuclear and it is a bad move in


proliferation and disarmament.

Labor should be better than

this. Labor should be than this. Labor is the party who

who have stood up for years who have stood up for years and said nuclear disarmament is

important and yet now we

abandon any pretence, any credibility on nuclear

disarmament because we're selling uranium to India who

have not said they will put any

of their nuclear of their nuclear power stations that are dedicated use under any use under any scrutiny. Remember, delegates, there is no overall scrutiny of India's

nuclear power plants in nuclear

They are saying, "We will show

you some but we will you you some but we will not show you the military plants."

That's the reality. The

for the Labor Party here for the Labor Party here is, is

jobs more important than

nuclear proliferation, I say

no.I say

Let me say

Let me say to Premier

Weatherill. Premier Weatherill

if you are depending on exporting

exporting uranium to India for

the future success of South the future success of South

Australia you'd better get a

better plan. You'd better get a

better look at how you can develop

develop broad braced jobs in South South Australia. This is a nonsense Prime Minister. You

cannot deliver on what you've

said here today. It is an absolute tragedy for the Labor

Party if this goes

I call delegate Howes. cannot lot of work today to make sure he's on TV tonight.There might

be a lot of blanket le in

saying that. As an admirer the saying that. As an admirer of

the art I respect your work and I took some notes .But Senator

Cameron, the issue here is your

credibility. I worry about credibility. I worry about your credibility on a regular basis

because if you were bringing a proposition to this conference

to stop mining and exporting

uranium then you would have

credibility in opposing this

amendment because if we sell uranium to the world's largest dictatorship

dictatorship in the form China and the world's growing

nuclear power in the form of

China, if we sell uranium to Russia, why can't we sell

uranium to the world's largest

democracy in the form of India. (APPLAUSE)

Because, in Senator Cameron's

mind, they haven't signed a

dead letter treaty written by Henry Kissinger. treaty that has on treaty that has on its signatories page North signatories page North Korea

and Iran. A treaty which has

not stopped the proliferation of nuclear weaponry. I believe

that the 400 million people who

live in India without power

deserve the right, like we do,

to have powered homes and

schools and hospitals. Rather

than condemning India to increase its carbon increase its carbon emissions through the development of to extra coal fired power stations

to provide them with power, I

would like to see India advance

the rights of its most poor and

people in poverty electricity and at the same

time do the right thing for our

globe and our planet by

reducing their carbon emissions

through the only form of power that does


India has a commitment that -

India has signed a deal with the United States which will

provide a role for the IAEA.

India is our friend. our friend that we should be

proud of and is, as minister

Smith said, an emerging power

in the region. That is

something we should embrace. We

shouldn't be held up in old shouldn't be held up in old ideology that is exposed in this this room as scoring a few

points and getting us on TV

when we all know the reality is,

is, Doug, we all know the

reality is that when you leave

this room you know what the uranium

uranium industry is going to do for this for this country. That is why the South Australian branch of

the AMWU is working the AMWU is working so hard the AMWU is working so hard to

cover uranium workers at Olympic Dam. That is why United Stated voice

the workers in the Northern

Territory. I'm very proud, as a secretary of the Workers Union, to represent

these workers because if we see

the downturn in manufacturing in South Australia, after we in South Australia, after we see the closures of miss see the closures of miss Britishy and like - Mitsubishi and electrolucks. I want to see

those workers back at work in good, high paying jobs. That is

what we will get what we will get at Olympic

Dam. I know it brother. (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) . I call delegate

Always a challenge to follow

the book ends in this debate.

Prime Minister, you said earlier

earlier that there are many

people who come to this room

and this debate engaged on a position that position that they oppose the

mining of uranium full stop. I am one of them. (APPLAUSE) Like thousands of Like thousands of Australians

I was politicised in the and two great nuclear powers

faced off against each other faced off against each other in

the shape of Reagan and

Gorbachev. I was one of

thousands of Australians who thought nuclear war was

possible in their lifetime. If

my conviction on the issue of Australia's engagement in the

nuclear industry has waivered

at any time since those early

years, it was given added

strength when earlier this strength when earlier this year

I was in Japan at the time that

that horrible earthquake tidal wave hit the north coast

of Honshu. Three days before that

that disaster I sat down in a grey office with a group of Tokyo Electric Power Company executives, they are the people

who own the Fukushima nuclear

plant. Three days before that tidal

tidal wave hit they were telling tidal wave hit they were

telling me about how safe their

facility was and about their

plans for expansion. The rest,

comrades, is history. In 1970 the countries of the entered into a grand bargain.

That was the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. That said said that the price for receiving uranium and

technology was not to engage in

the nuclear arms race that grand

grand bargain has been reflected in our national platform

platform since we first debated

this issue in the 1970s and I

see in reason for us to compromise or detract from compromise or detract from that

great principle. I believe that it

us to have a strong alliance

with the United States at the

same time as we may disagree

with them on issues and defence and trade. And in the same terms it is the same terms it is possible

to have a strong economic defence defence and security, political

and cultural relationship with

the emerging power of India

without having that compromised

by our failure to disagree by our failure to disagree with them on our exporting uranium to them.

to reject the I call delegate Mundine.

Thank you madam President. I

wish to welcome our friends in

the gallery today, the gallery today, the subcontinent friends of Labor.

I salute you and thank you coming along. Some people here today today are a bit hypocritical.

They above holidaying in Paris

and love backpacking cycling around the beautiful

crisp air of the French

countryside. They enjoy the

French culture, the French

cuisine, the French wine - we all

all love the French. I say the

French are clever as they

produce 78% of their electricity via 59 nuclear

power plants. There is no -

they are so good at it they are so good at it they

export some of the electricity to Belgium, to Belgium, Britain, Italy and

Germany. They just love that

nuclear electricity. They are

getting rid of it! We are very

happy for the French to do

that. They contribute to a clean, low-emission future for us.

us. We are happy for them it in Europe and yet we it in Europe and yet we treat

India as a pariah, the India as a pariah, the largest

democracy in the world, a country that has history, similar similar structures, similar, very strong democracies. One of the largest growing economies of the world at 8%. The of the world at 8%. The largest population in history and

growing with 40% of its people struggling to access

electricity on a daily large population also that's

living in poverty and to lift their

their people out of grow their people out of poverty, to

grow their economy they will

need power, they will need

electrical power and they will

need a range of sources need a range of sources for

that to happen. Yes, it is

going to be renewable, yes, it is going

is going to be solar energy,

yes, it is going to be coal and

yes, it is going to be nuclear

power. For us to build a strong

relationship and to properly

engage with India as a friend -

and they are our friend - and

as a strategic partner, we need

to work with them, we need to Strop to work with them, we need to Strop treating them as a and we need to start working

with them to build a safe and

prosperous India, to build safe and safe and prosperous Indian

Ocean, to build a safe and prosperous Pacific as well as

central Asia and south-east

Asia. The time is now for us Asia. The time is now for us to

have a mature, engagement in India and not be trapped by the policies and the

backwardness of the past. I'd

like to congratulate the Prime Minister

Minister on her stance and premier Weatherill because

youse come here with a vision

and common sense approach for

the future in how we engage

with Asia and how we engage

with India in a strong and important strategic and economic future. economic future.Let us... Start winding up now delegate. Let us

build the future with India. We

have a great opportunity to

build the south-east Asian area

and to build if Indian and

Pacific Oceans for a safe and

prosperous future. Let's forget

the past and move forward. I

commend the amendment.Thank (APPLAUSE) I call delegate Ford

Delegates, WA Labor has

rejected the nuclear fuel cycle

and particularly uranium mining

for over 30 years and rejected

continues to do so. Recently at

our last state conference our

leader,er aric Ripper and our branch rejected uranium again.

Why did we do it? We did it

because we don't believe Australia has Australia has the expertise to properly challenge properly challenge industry

assertions that the environment

will not be damaged in 1,000,

5,000 or 10,000 years or more. We rejected an industry whose

occupational health and safety regulations are based on regulations are based on a

1950s notion of socially acceptable levels of fatality. We don't accept that future

generations of Western Australians should be subjected

to and fair the financial cost

of managing an unsure and

unsafe legacy for thousands of industry that says Fukushima

wasn't that bad, it was just a

media beat up. Delegates, you don't fight proliferation by exporting uranium. You don't

facilitating the building of

new clear reactors by giving them fuel. You can't expect

uranium and pretend you have no

responsibility for the disasters that are like

export uranium to a sovereign

state is that refuses to

embrace international norms for transparency and anti-proliferation and pretend

or oep everything will be okay.

Delegates, WA Labor continues

to reject participation in this

dirty, unsafe and ant industry. (APPLAUSE)

Don't assume that all our

want a nuclear future. This is

an industry born of war and we

must never forget that. This is

an industry that bases its

credential s is on unsubstantiated optimism whilst ignoring its unsafe unsubstantiated Prime Minister, you Prime Minister, you rightly said that Australia now faces the

the fact that it exports the

deals in the business of

uranium. But we can change uranium. But we can change our mind. Prime Minister, Germany has changed its mind. Italy has changed its mind. (APPLAUSE) Interestingly enough in

France, while it has a France, while it has a huge nuclear industry, bans the

mining of uranium. Members, I

look forward to an Australia

that changes its mind on

I call delegate Laura Smyth to

speak on the motion.

We have been extraordinary

history of, as a party complying with and indeal forming international obligations, multilateral

agreements, collective action

of nations. It is what we of nations. It is what we have

always supported. It is what our platform has our platform has always

reflected on this issue as it

has on so many issues. There is

a reason for that. There is a reason why as a country

reason why as a country which

has a small population, as a country which graphically and as a country that

that has to try repeatedly to punch

punch above its weight

internationally, we rely on the

ability to form collective

agreements with other states and try to seek meaning them. Evet knew it when he

participated in the formation

of the UN. So many other Labor

luminaries have participated in over the years. It over the years. It is critically important in this debate. What is extremely dangerous in the remarks dangerous in the remarks that

have been made today by have been made today by some speakers is a sense of rid dualing agreements whenever there are certain participants in them that we have objections to. There

There is a sense of rid dual There is a sense of rid dual of international agreements on the whole and so what

here is not really for a debate

about this specific issue on the question of non-proliferation. What those delegates who are delegates who are putting forward this resolution and

supporting this resolution are

in fact inviting, is some sort

of position that takes us away

from support of multilateral

action. It is some sort that international are really worthy of entering into

into at all. That really into at all. That really is what we are being asked to support

support here today. If we think we can resile from we can resile from our obligations when they become tough

tough or - resile from our

obligations when they become

tough or inconvenient then this

is a much broader debate than

the one we are having today. This

This is not a hard decision. It has

has been put earlier in this

debate that this is a hard decision

decision we are making today and we are up decisions. We are up for making

hard decisions but this is not

a hard decision in this resolution. It is an resolution. It is an easy decision. It is always easier to provide support for the exception. It is always harder

to stand by cause that you

actually believe in and be

consistent to that cause and be

firm in your beliefs. We have

also been told this is a position that is good for

Australia. This resolution is at at least clumsy, it is Klum

sillly drafted and at worse sillly drafted and at worse it

is extremely dangerous. If we are is extremely dangerous. If we are to record in are to record in our platform

that we will grant state specific exceptions to

commitments we have made on international obligations we leave ourselves open to

pressure from every other country

country in the world on every

other issue they wish to invite

debate on. Today's debate has a

number of audiences. It has the audience in this room, the people charged with making people charged with making a

responsible and

issue and the broader issues.

It has an audience of the

international community international community who

will be looking at our

compliance with international obligations closely and a audience, the Australian public and

and all of the commentators who will look at this as an indicator indicator of us and our values

and they will only support us

and only become members of our party if they see we party if they see we stand #2r50u to those values.Kreetion

correction - true to those I call delegate May.

Until I got Until I got involved

representing 20,000 Australians

who are participants in British nuclear tests in who South Australia, Western

Australia, I was in two about nuclear power. To this

day - to this day there are

areas of South Australia which are off limit for human

habitation. Shame! To this day

Montebello is a no-go Montebello is a no-go zone.

This is 50 plus years after

what happened. For those of happened you are all familiar

with the pictures of with the pictures of bombs going off and people turning around

around and that was it. That is not

not all that happened. There

were experiments conducted by

the British, they were called Vixen and kittens. They consisted of spreading

radioactive material to radioactive material to see

what happens, these were not

explosions. To this day explosions. areas where South Australia are contaminated

contaminated and any attempt

and all attempts to try to bury

and control the emissions have

failed. If Yugo to Maralinga as I did representing Australians

who participated and are dying

of cancers to this day - many

of died already - you will see an

an on risk. an on risk. What it says is

this - obelisk and what it

says is this area is not fit

for human habitation. The argument is for some extraordinary reason that

atomic energy is clean energy.

Have we forgotten three miles in US, Chernobyl, which is

killing people to this day,

accidents in England and, of course, Fukushima. What about

accidents that we are

of, that have been covered over

by the nuclear lobby. Let's

make no mistake about it, there is a

world and its business is to

promote atomic energy. Not

because it is clean but because

it is good for business. I urge

you to reject it because it is

not the answer.Sglrngs (APPLAUSE) I call I call delegate

Thank you, madam Chair. I

rise to support our Prime

Far from being wrong, I support our Prime Minister and I support

you are right.You are right you are right.You are right on

this issue because, Prime

Minister, as your Government

has so ably demonstrated for the first day of its existence,

jobs and Australian jobs jobs and Australian jobs are never a side show.The pursuit

of jobs in this economy is fundamentally important. India

- fact - has particulary - fact - has an exempt

particulary record when it comes to handling its nuclear