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(generated from captions) Our credit Mac today, a carbon fuel.

Voters in increased pressure on the

Gillard government to scrap the

controversial carbon tax. On PM

Agenda today, we will look at Labor's dreadful performance in the

polls and chat with Julie Bishop. The Queensland flooding choir here

is how a survivor saved a young boy

but was not able to save his

brother or mother. In a sky News

exclusive, the AFL warned the game's television rights will never

again reach $1 billion. Good

afternoon. Also, the government

stands by decision to deport a man

who has lived in Australia for more

than 40 years.

The Gillard government is facing a

backlash over its carbon tax from

both businesses and photos. Dozens

of companies have written to the

Prime Minister to express their

concerns, and at the latest poll

shows Labor's support is at a 15-

year low. The last time Labor did

this badly in the polls it was 1996,

after Paul Keating's election loss.

It is the stage in the cycle when

governments tend to be doing things,

and when they do things they fall

behind. John Howard was behind in

each of his four terms as prime

minister, by more than this in 2001,

in April 2001 when the Coalition

was behind by 60-42 party, and John

Howard had a negative net approval

shoot. Governments get themselves of -23 or a number of that maybe

in this position at this stage of

the cycle but Labor have a lot of

fights on their plate. It is going fights on their plate. It is going to be a

to be a hard road back. All things

being equal, two years to do it.

Julia Gillard's personal popularity

is also down, but her colleagues

say they are not worried. If we

have a Prime Minister in Julia

Gillard who has the support of the

caucus, and she is undertaking this

important reform. I believe she is

getting credit for it and we will

work our way through it. Polls go

up and down and we are in the

business of making sure Australia

difficulty sometimes. The is a better place. We will have

government is determined to ensure

we are able to face the challenges

of this entry with confidence. The

Coalition is is convinced it shows

the committee has rejected the

carbon tax. The government is

damaging their cost of living and

job security. It is not just voters

who are uncomfortable with the

carbon tax. Over the past few days Julia Gillard has received letters from 45 export companies and

grocery Manufacturers, all warning industry groups, including food and

that jobs could be lost. Food and

grocery manufacturers are concerned

a carbon tax could hit their cost

of production but will not hit

imported goods. With the high

Australian dollar already making

imports cheaper, the food and

grocery Council says Australian

producers stand to lose out. We are

worried food and groceries

manufactured here will be less

competitive on supermarket shelves,

which will cost jobs. The

government agrees jobs are the

priority and says it is open to

discussing concerns as aircraft is a compensation package for industry.

This is all about jobs. If we do

not put a price on carbon we will

carbon-intensive economy in the be left behind with the most

world, representing a grim future

for industry. The Opposition Leader Tony Abbott is demanding a guarantee from the government that

the carbon tax will not cost jobs.

We have seen over the last few days

to recent developments. First we

had the unions seek the Prime

Minister, from the Prime Minister

guarantee that not a single job

will be lost through the carbon tax.

Just today we have had a large

range of businesses seeking from

our economic competitiveness will the Prime Minister guarantee that

not be hurt by the carbon tax.

There are two guarantees people are

seeking from the Prime Minister,

first, that not a single job will

be lost through the carbon tax, and

second, that the carbon tax will

not in any way hurt international

trade competitiveness. I don't

think the prime minister can give

either of those guarantees. If the

prime minister cannot give those

guarantees, she should drop this

bad tax. It is a bad tax based on a

lie. It will cost jobs, it will damage Australian industry competitiveness and it should not

go ahead. When you speak to workers

today will you get them to try to

put more pressure on unions to

oppose the tax? Unions are already

getting pressure from their

workforce. They would not have

changed their tune at the way they

have in the last few days but for

the pressure they are getting from

their workforce. What I think

Australian workers are starting to

understand is that their jobs will

be less secure if this tax goes

ahead. The Queensland Flood enquiry

has heard how a survivor saved a

young boy but was not able to save

his brother or mother. The enquiry

was into warmer today, hearing

evidence from survivors. We go live

to Brisbane. What is the latest?

Good afternoon. Christopher Skehan

was into wonder that day and saw a

mother and her two children in

trouble and went to rescue them. He

first of all saved Jordan Rice, but

by then the water was so ferocious

he could not go back, and Donna

Rice and her son Blake Rice

perished. As a result he was very

upset. The commission will be

hearing tomorrow, most likely, the

000 calls help by the mother and

son on the verge of this tragedy.

We understand Jim Davidson has been

adequately warned about flash refuting claims the area was not

flooding. It has emerged that the

weather bureau is not responsible

for flash flooding. There are

certainly questions about whether

the weather bureau have enough

resources for flash flooding

warnings. 22 victims in the Lockyer

Valley lost their lives with those

waters are going through with such

ferocity on January 10. Thank you.

The AFL has been warned it will

never again see TV broadcast rights

reaching $1 billion. The league is

currently deciding who will be

granted rights to broadcast AFL

football for the next five years.

One of the country's top media bias

has told sky News broadcast rights

have reached their peak. We have

this exclusive report. It might be

the AFL's biggest payday, that they

are being warned not to spend it

all at once. Harold Mitchell runs

one of Australia's largest media

buying agency and works closely

with the AFL. He has told sky News

the AFL will never see $1 billion

again. This is the biggest deal

that will probably ever be done. I

suspect after this there will not

be a deal as big. It has to be

spread around a white group. Where

do we go from here? This is

fantastic. They are getting it out do we go from here? This is fantastic. They are getting it out

of the way. I would not like to be

doing this deal again in five years.

TV rights are the biggest source of

revenue for the AFL and helps keep

struggling clubs financially viable.

Hawthorne and Jeff Kennett is president of

Hawthorne and says he agrees with Jeff Kennett is president of

the comments. The comments come on

an important day for the AFL as the

commission meets to decide who

should broadcast football on TV for

the next five years. There is a

consortium led by Channel 7,

Channel 10 and Foxtel, versus

Channel 9 on its own. Harold

Mitchell believes the consortium

between free-to-air and pay-TV is

logical. I would have to say in the

box seat would be the Seven Network.

Foxtel have a real place. It is

very hard for Channel 9, who are

very competitive. They are probable

trying to make it difficult. Harold

Mitchell was originally the man who

said AFL broadcast rights would

reach $1 billion, so his comments

will be taken seriously, albeit with some alarm from the AFL

community. The federal government

is standing by its decision to

deport a man who has lived in

Australia for more than 40 years.

47-year-old Clifford Tucker is

about to be deported to the UK

after having his visa revoked on

character grounds. He has several

criminal convictions and has spent

12 years in jail for attempted

murder. This has obviously been a

matter that has gone on for some

time. The Minister made a decision

that the person in question did not

pass the character test. As I understand it that ministerial

decision was then reviewed by the administrative appeals Tribunal,

and that decision was then

considered by the Federal Court,

which has resolved and the Minister's decision has been upheld. The deportation will proceed. These matters are very difficult and

complex. There needs to be full

consideration of the facts, and I

am advised that was the case. He

has been built -- the Wood

detention centre for a year

fighting. Jarryd Hayne is facing a

two-week ban after being charged

with a head butt. Jarryd Hayne was

given a grade 2 striking charge by

the Match Review Panel to you after he head-butted Corey Payne in

retaliation for a high shot. Jarryd

Hayne was also charged with a grade

3 careless high tackle and will

miss one game unless he can beat the charge.

This is news day. PM Agenda is just

moments away. Coming up on the

program this afternoon, we will be

looking at the latest polls and

what it says about the level of

opposition to the carbon tax. Julie

Bishop will join us, along with

Bruce Hawker and Grahame Morris.

Good afternoon. For several months,

the polls have delivered bad news

for Julia Gillard on a weekly basis.

The Government is today vowing to

press ahead with its controversial

carbon tax, despite the latest one

showing 59% of Australians oppose

the tax. The Nielsen poll also

showed Labor's primary support has

hit a 15 year low down to an

horrific fish -- 31%. Ministers

signed up to date to tell us they

are not worried, trotting out the

same lines. The Government has

chosen to take action, meaning we

need to continue to argue our case.

And I believe that when the detail

is out there, when the policy is in

place and we have a price on carbon,

many people will look back and

wonder what all the fuss was about.

Two polls go up and down. We are in

the business of making sure it is a

better place. We will come into

difficulties. This Government is

determined to ensure we are able to

face the challenges of the 21st

century with confidence. We are

going to have tipped --

difficulties, that's no reason to

shirk from responsibility. In a

couple of days Julia Gillard may

get a brief respite from the carbon

tax debate as she takes -- turned her attention to international

diplomacy. She will visit

earthquake ravaged Japan and make

her first official visit to China

before the royal wedding in London.

Joining me this afternoon to look

at her priorities is Julie Bishop.

Good afternoon. Good afternoon. You

have already said that Julia

Gillard's trip to China - you want

her to focus on getting more

information on what China is doing

to cut emissions. We already know

that China is committing to dollar

in emissions per unit of GDP by 40-

45% by 2020. It is also closing

inefficient power plants and

increasing forest coverage by

40,000,000 hectares. The list of

what they -- they are doing is

going on, so it's not fair to

suggest they are not doing anything. That's not the point, Ashleigh. Julia Gillard has consistently said that China is reducing its

emissions and that's not true. As

China's economy grows, so will its

overall emissions, so it's a very misleading picture for the promised

to paint -- the Primus to paint that China is lowering its

emissions to Australia must get on

board. Will China be putting a

price on carbon and if so, when?

When I visited China not such a

long time ago, China made it clear

they would not jeopardise their

economic growth by putting a price

on carbon. Julia Gillard needs to

get an official position from China

as to whether they are going to

price carbon and if so, when. If

China continues to put out

emissions in a corresponding manner

to the growth of its economy than

whatever we do in Australia will

not make one iota of difference to

the global greenhouse gas

environment. What we need to do is

find out what China is going to do.

The Prime Minister is being

dishonest enough in this debate and

it is time she put facts on the table. Julia Gillard will argue

that putting the carbon tax on the

table is not putting our economy at

risk but preparing it for the

future. The Government says it has

a priority on job creation. If this

carbon tax was such a good idea,

why didn't Julia Gillard take it to

the last election and campaign on

it so that she could have a mandate

from the people about introducing a

carbon tax? The fact is, she knew

it would cost jobs, drive investment offshore, that's why she

said, there will be no carbon tax

under a Government I lead, and

people believed her. Now she says

there will be a tax and we know

from Greg Combet that some people

will be compensated. How many

people will be worse off? In what

industries will people lose jobs?

In the absence of a global

agreement on a carbon tax or Emissions Trading Scheme,

Australian jobs will go offshore,

lose investment, the Australian

economy will be damaged with absolutely no environmental gain.

The polls today seem to suggest

that the message you give from the

Coalition is cutting through. More

Australians oppose the carbon tax

and support it. The interesting

thing on your side of the fence is

to see that Malcolm Turnbull is the

favoured Liberal leader, 41% of

people preferring him compared with

28% for Mr Abbott. Would you rule

out a return of Malcolm Turnbull as

Liberal leader? Tony Abbott has

very strong support among Coalition

voters. He has low support among

non- Coalition voters, and that is understandable because he has done

such a good job exposing the

Government weakness. One would

expect Labor voters not to support

Tony Abbott because he has exposed

the Government for its

mismanagement and the lie of the

carbon tax. I think the polls

reflect what I hear on the ground.

The people I speak to around

Australia want to see this carbon

tax taken to an election, so they

can vote on it. If Julia Gillard

believes in her carbon tax, she

should campaign on it, put the

facts on the table and that the

streaming people have a say. They

were denied that opportunity. She should take it to an election

before she even thinks about introducing any legislation. Would

you rule out Malcolm Turnbull

returning to lead the lab --

Liberal party? Tony Abbott -- Tony

Abbott has strong support in the

Coalition and across the voter base.

None of your colleagues are looking at these polls and getting enthusiastic about Mr Turnbull

getting back in the top job? Not at

all. The point I made earlier comes

through. So many people are now

disenchanted with Labor, and that

the message I get on the ground.

That's not just through polling. If

the field evidence that Liberal

party members are getting. They are

so disenchanted with Labor, tired

of the spin, lies and dishonesty and mismanagement of the economy by

the Labor Party that they want to

see a change. Tony has huge support

across the Coalition that -- base.

Still, more people disapprove of

his leadership than approve of it.

Looking at your State of Western

Australia, we had a feud days ago

that WA is looking for 30,000 more

workers in the next two years to

deal with the resource has been.

Are you getting feedback from

businesses that they would like to

see a shift in workplace relations

policy? Or do you think they are

happy with the way that Julia Gillard's fair work policy is

working out? There will be

certainly a great need for skilled

workers and workers across the

board in Western Australia, in many

industries, not just mining and

resources. I have been meeting with

many businesses in the mining and

resource sector, and there is a

great need for a huge workforce to

help bring some of these new

projects in the north-west and the

Pilbara to fruition. Significant

numbers of workers, thousands of

them. Also in other areas such as

tourism, hospitality - we need

workers who don't have the same

skills that are required on a mine

site, perhaps. So we need more

people in the West. If anyone is

unemployed, there are opportunities

in Western Australia and training

opportunities for people to get the

skills they need to take the many

jobs on offer on the side of the

country. It comes to workplace

relations, is the message you get

in those meetings that they want

the Coalition to look at pushing

forward changes, or do they think

the fair work policy is working out

for them in WA? There are certainly

significant criticisms of Fair Work

Australia. There is concern about

the deregulation of the Labor

market at the time when we need

workers. We were -- waiting to see

how the new legislation works out.

They are talking to us about concerns over award modernisation, the regularisation of the Labor

market, but other issues are at

play as well. We need to ensure

that everyone who can has the

opportunity to get a job, that they

have the training and skills base

to do that. If businesses have a

problem with restrictions imposed

by Labor's new laws, they should

speak about them, tell us about

them. More importantly, tell Julia

Gillard and the Government about

them. Isn't it a bit cowardly for

the Coalition to put this off into

the too hard basket? We have seen

that some of your colleagues would

like to see the Coalition take hold

of this issue, considering perhaps

the momentum we have seen in the

polls for the Coalition. Do you

think it may be time for the party

to raise some of these I are issues

and put forward a plan? The Gillard

Government brought in a whole raft of new regulations and legislation

in the workplace relations, a whole

raft of new issues. Some of them

are just being introduced, bedded

down. We will certainly what

closely and work

closely and work with sectors of

the economy to see what problems

are rising and what the solutions

are. The trouble with the Labor

Government is that it puts its head

in the Senate over these issues,

just as it has with the carbon

price. -- in the Sand. But your

party is putting its head in the

Sand by not tackling the industrial

relations issue, just waiting to

see how it pans out. I disagree. I

think we are doing a very prudent

and sensible approach. We are about

protecting jobs in a Australia,

that's why we are fighting the

carbon tax. The compensation that

Greg Combet talks about, he says,

is for low to middle income earners.

He doesn't define it. We don't know

how many people will be compensated

and how many people will be worse.

We don't know what will happen to

small business, if they will receive any compensation. Small

business is the driver of the

Australian economy. Jobs will be

lost in small business because of

the carbon tax. If they believe

they carbon tax is good for

Australia, they should take it to

an election and argue for its

heaviest trading people can make an

informed decision. -- and argue for

it so that Australian people. Are

still a long way to go one up.

Finally, Schapelle Corby is

reportedly waiting for the

Indonesian President to agree to a

Supreme Court recommendation to cut

10 years from her 20 year sentence,

it could see her brought home soon,

although her lawyers don't hold out

much hope for that. They have

apparently written a letter to you

and the Prime Minister, saying it

is time to act. Do you think it is

time for the Prime Minister to make a direct approach on Schapelle

Corby's behalf? I understand the Government has supported the clemency plea, likewise the

Coalition has supported that. The

matter is still before the

Indonesian courts and we should

enable them to go through the

process of hearing the appeal and

then consider the position.

Indonesia is a democracy, with its

own judicial system. People

travelling to Indonesia are subject

to its laws and we should allow the

legal processes to take their

course. In the meantime, I know the

Government has made representations

and will continue to make

representations in support of the

plea of clemency. thanks for your time.

After the break, the latest Essential poll.

Welcome back. Today's Nielsen poll

is a devastating result for the

government. We have seen its

primary vote down to a 15-year low.

Compared to that the government is

doing a little better in the latest

Essential poll. Peter Lewis joins

us. Labor's primary vote in your

poll has stayed steady from last

week, on 35%. But when it comes to

the two-party preferred vote it is

still pretty tragic for the ALP.

You would not call it good news,

but it is 54-46. That is a slight

increase in the Coalition's primary

vote in the rolling two-week

average. You found support for the

carbon tax has increased? Yes. We

have been charting this since the

beginning of March. We have the narrowest gap between

dissatisfaction and satisfaction,

at -10%. That is good news to a

couple of weeks ago, when it was -

17%. 25% of Labor voters say they

oppose a price on carbon. Once you

throw in compensation, it seems

voters are more likely to throw

support behind the attacks. That is

right. We get a 28% turnaround in

support or otherwise for the tax once you bring compensation into

the question. That is shifting to

51 support, 33 opposition, and big

increases for Labor. It brings an

increase to 33% of Coalition voters

supporting the proposition. There

is an other issue. We have heard a lot about the Israel-Palestinian

conflict thanks to the Greens in

New South Wales, who want to impose

a trade boycott on Israel. To date

Marrickville Council in Sydney, led

by Fiona Byrne, decided not to go

ahead with that band. Your question

on it is interesting, because it

shows voters are unsure about where

they stand. The takeaway from this

question, which is they stand. The takeaway from this question, which is asking for the single biggest cause of the problems between Israel and

Palestine, is that people, the only

thing they can really hold their

hat on is the lack of either side

to compromise. A lot of the more

extreme propositions put both as

the bad guys are rejected. People

are quite moderate and most people

admit they don't know what the

cause is. The take-up of these

findings is the Australian cause is. The take-up of these findings is the Australian

population is not set in its views

on this conflict. They think it is

probably something they don't know

enough about to have a strong view

and they are not attracted to

extreme views on the issue. Thank

you. This afternoon we are joined by political consultant Grahame Morris and strategist Bruce Hawker. Good afternoon. Bruce, Labor

ministers have been telling us

today they don't care about the

polls, we are ages away from an

election. But this is Nielsen poll

is not good for morale and it shows

there is a long way to go until Australians back this carbon tax.

That is true, and the Essential

poll was very interesting in your

discussion with Peter Lewis when they asked a question about

compensation. Immediately you had I

think it was an 18% turnaround to

support the proposition, 251-33.

What that points to phone me is we

have a long way to go with the

carbon tax. The government has been

in a difficult position with the

introduction because they have not

been in a position to say what the

tax will be, how much per tonne it

will be and what the exact details

of compensation will be. It is

still being worked out. Once,

however, you get into a debate

about that and the facts and

figures are on the table, the

government starts campaigning very

aggressively around the question of

compensation. I think we probably

can see some turnaround, as

predicted by the Essential poll. We

have seen it before when we were

doing polling a couple of years ago

and people were being asked about

supporting the ETS. They said they

supported it. I then realised that

until you get into detail of what

an ETS means, people will be

supported because it sounds good,

just like you will be unhappy about

the carbon tax if you think it will

cost you a lot of money. It comes

down to the campaigning around the

issue, and the government needs to

spend a lot of time from when they

determine the issue about the

amount of tax will be set at and

who will pay it, up until election

day. The government spent time last

week talking about the compensation

angle. The Nielsen poll shows

people don't automatically connect

the carbon tax and the compensation

issue yet, where is the Essential

poll actually asked a very specific

question about compensation. Yes,

and that is something the

government will have to focus on,

very clear messages about what it

actually means for people in the

street who do do it off on a day to

day basis, whoever you are. It was

also looking at personal popularity.

Why do you think Tony Abbott's

personal popularity isn't better?

Most people all more people

disapprove of his performance. He

is on that figure because the Labor

party and the Greens would vote to

him. Surprise, surprise. Those leadership polls are absolutely

stupid. Do you want Daffy duck or

Donald Duck? It doesn't matter. Has

your leader got your Donald Duck? It doesn't matter. Has

your leader got your team into a

winning position? Tony Abbott, yes.

Julia Gillard, no. I suspect at

around about Christmas when people

look at leadership, I suspect when

people look back at a couple of

polls after the New South Wales

election, they will say that was

the beginning of the end for the

Prime Minister. The Labor Party

generally -- genuinely thought they

were being dragged down firstly by

Anna Bligh, and the floods came and she lifted her Anna Bligh, and the floods came and she lifted her stocks, and Labor

continued to fall federal if. In

New South Wales they thought it was

about New South Wales. Kristina

Keneally is gone, the government is

gone, and the federal -- federal

ALP continue to fall. All of the

excuses have gone now and they have

to look at themselves and say the

problem is ask. Federal Labor has a

real problem. We did just see on

the screen at the poll comparing

Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard. More

people would rather Kevin Rudd was

in the top job, and the same goes

for Malcolm Turnbull and Tony

Abbott. Is this a case of the grass

always being greener? I think there

is an element of that. I think

Julia Gillard has to start selling the Julia Gillard has to start selling the package, selling it

aggressively, to the electorate.

When she does but I think things

will turn around. We have seen this

in the past. Tales of her demise

are premature. There is a long way until the next election campaign.

This is where you have to stop

focusing on selling a message to

the electorate that there will be

genuine and generous compensation in place. genuine and generous compensation

in place. This is a reform that has

to happen, and is not something

that is an optional extra. It must

happen and we have to embrace this

change now. Rous, you and the Prime

Minister is sounding like fanatics

on this. Climate change fanatics.

That is not fanatics. There are 32

countries in the world which

currently have Emissions Trading

Scheme is. I guess most of Europe

and California are fanatics to.

Even China has introduced one. I

don't think these are the actions

of fanatics. This actually goes to

show how far out of step people

like Grahame are with the reality

of what is coming. For people who

are under 30, these are the people

who will inherit the world after we

are long gone, and they will want

to know what it is they are being

left behind, and they want to know

it is not a poisoned environment.

We did see today the food and

grocery Council is the latest to

join industry groups in their

stance against the carbon tax. They want action on carbon -- climate

change but not this action the

government is putting forward. This

sort of reform happens a lot. We

see different groups on all sides

of the political spectrum have a

say on big reforms like this. There is nothing unusual about that, especially when there is

compensation in the mix. That is

fine, but there is no way this

particular proposal is sustainable. It is not sustainable politically.

It is not just this. At some stage

the government is going to have to

clear the decks. It is picking a fight with the resources sector,

the electricity industry,

coalmining. Then you have things

about fights with cigarettes and

newsagents and service stations.

There are fights with the clubs,

and they have not even started yet,

because then the government will

have to fight Jr sport, sponsored

by clubs, they will have to argue

with pensioners who get free meals

at clubs. They will have to argue

with entertainers who are looked

after by clubs. The pharmacists and

the chemists at the moment. How do

you get rid of all of these wars?

Either you clear the decks and the

Prime Minister says "I tried, this

is too high politically ," or else

someone will have to move on the

leader and get rid of them for her.

The other Mac that is straight from

Liberal party headquarters. It is

the scaremongering exercise we have

been hearing all along. These are

tough issues the government has to

deal with. The 12 years the previous government shuffled those

things aside, although at the end

John Howard did have a very strong

position on climate change when he

realised there was a strong feeling

for that in the electorate. The

government will have to deal with

tough issues, but they will not

result from that. They have to sort

out problems to do with the poker

machine tax, but we saw polling

today showing there is 63% support

for them it's been placed on what

people can bet. They are the sorts

of things you have to work through

on a daily basis. The one thing I

think you can say with some level of confidence about Julia Gillard

is she is a great negotiator. She

negotiated herself into government

from a very difficult position, and

she is working through these issues.

Even people like Paul Howes say

they will not support this is a

single job goes. I think everybody

expects Paul Howes is doing his job

as a union leader. I think we will

find at the end of the day, when

the package comes out and there are

protections built in four people in the steel industry and other industries that Paul Howes and

other people in the unions will be

very happy with. Right now there

was a lot of positioning going on

by a lot of people. There is a lot

of lobbying by people like Grahame

to try to get these issues up and

running. That will happen. We have

two years or so before the next

election and there is a lot to be

talked about between now and then.

Paul Howes has been mugged by

reality, by his own members. Not

all that long ago he was on Julia

Gillard's side. His members told

him not to be stupid. We used to

have a couple of that thing called

the ACTU a couple of decades ago.

We still do. Used to be a case of

the ACTU and the unions would have

jobs first and Labor second. At the

moment it is let's back jobs and

bugger the workers. That is

contrary to what you said about

Paul Howes. He is out there looking

after the interests of working

Australians. That is his job as a

secretary of the 8W. Two weeks ago

he was on the other side. He has

been mugged by reality? What on

earth has happened to the ACTU?

They are doing the same thing as the unions, looking after workers

and their jobs. That is what Julia

Gillard is doing. I feel you will

have more to say on this every

Monday this year. Thank you, Bruce Hawker and Grahame Morris. We

enjoyed your insights. Coming up,

we crossed live to Tokyo for the

latest on the situation at the Fukushima nuclear plant.

Five weeks on from the earthquake

and tsunami that devastated Japan,

more than 30,000 people have been

confirmed dead, with 14,000 missing.

As if that's not enough, workers

are trying to contain problems at

the Fukushima nuclear plant, with

the owners announcing it could take

nine months to stop radiation leaks.

Later this week Julia Gillard will

be in Japan to offer Australia's

condolences. On the weekend we saw

the US Secretary of State, Hillary

Clinton, also visit, urging Japan

to keep its chin up as it grapples

with the recovery effort. Our Prime

Minister will be visiting Japan

later this week. We have seen

America very vocal on this. Do you

think the country is getting enough

international support? It has

certainly seen a lot of

international support. The US

Secretary of State on Sunday it

explains why - they said that

whenever there is a disaster in the

world, Japan is one of the most

generous supporters. That seems to

be coming back to Japan, with many

countries offering support in age,

10 is coming over in the early days

after the disaster, with search and

rescue teams, and also with the

nuclear issue. French nuclear at

experts are on the ground trying to

help. They obviously have a lot of

experience when it comes to nuclear

reactors themselves. As Clinton

said, the fact that Japan has been

so generous, now others are being

generous the other way. With so

many thousands dead and missing, it

is hard to understand from this

distance the scale of the disaster.

What is the there is -- a situation

like on the ground? How many are

homeless? Are their food shortages, or is that starting to improve?

There is around 140,000 still

living in emergency shelters five

weeks on. Hundreds of thousands of

homes were completely flattened and destroyed along the coastline of

north-east Japan. When you stand in

the middle of what was once a

bustling fishing town in many of

these areas on the coast, all you

can see almost as far as the eye

can see is debris. Very few

buildings still standing. Those

left standing made -- may need to

be bulldozed because they have been

gutted by water. A lot of people

still finding it difficult on a

daily basis. In the shelters there

is enough food and water. Some have

generators and they do have

electricity, but it is a difficult

situation. Many are sleeping in a 1

metre x 2 metre area with pieces of

cardboard to separate them to separate them from their next-door

neighbours. The missing number is

still out way in the number of

those bodies that have been found,

so a very grim task of having to

find more than 14,000 people

missing. You mentioned the nuclear

problem. Can you talk us through

the timeline that the operator of the Fukushima nuclear plant

outlined for getting it under

control? This is what we heard

yesterday. It was interesting. It's

the first time we had any kind of

timeline. It's really only because

the Japanese Prime Minister

insisted they give dates. They said

it would probably take three months

into the radiation levels would

drop and until the cooling systems

in the nuclear plant were back

online. It would take 6-9 months

before the situation was completely

stabilised, meaning the reactors,

those damaged, would be able to

shut down completely. They hope

that some evacuees would be able to

move back to the areas around the

plant by that time, but they say

they will try their best to keep to

the timeline. It has to be a vague

timeline because they really don't

know exactly what all the problems

are and if there are more leaks.

Certainly in the past five weeks

they have had nasty surprises, as

everyone has, as radioactive waste

has gone into the atmosphere, into

the Pacific Ocean. This is a very

sketchy timeline, but at least it

is a timeline. Did the aftershocks

last week have any impact on the

nuclear plant, and has a settled

down now? Did they cause much

damage? Over the past couple of

weeks it has been a feud that has

been fairly significant, maybe a

dozen people killed directly

because of the aftershocks in the

north-eastern part of Japan. But

the Fukushima nuclear plant, TEPCO

officials insisted the aftershocks

did no damage. But when they happen,

the workers had to down tools and

they have to get to an earthquake-

proof area, so it does hamper the

efforts. The aftershocks are

expected to continue for months or

even years. We have had some

significant levels, keeping people

on edge even in Tokyo, where the

epicentre is a long way away. It's

really hampering the return to

normality for many people. It

hampers the work at Fukushima, of

course. What about an economic

recovery plan? We all know that

Japan is the third last -- largest

economy in the world. The cost is

being put at $300 billion. Has the

Government started on that, or is

it still about the recovery effort

on the ground first? At this point

the Government says number one

priority is to get the nuclear

plants back online, while trying to

help people who have lost their

homes. Insurance companies are in

the process of giving money to

those who have lost their homes.

They have aerial photos so they can

tell who have lost their homes

completely. The $300 billion is a

provisional number that the

Government has given. It does make

it the most expensive natural

disaster in history, but at this

point they still don't know if it

will get any higher than that,

because the nuclear crisis is

ongoing. It is difficult to see

what kind of money they will have

to put into that as well. They are

expecting TEPCO to pick up the bill

for the nuclear crisis, but if they

can't afford it, they will have to

step in as well. Thank you.

To look at Australia is economy and

how the markets have performed

today - in company news, we saw

bull works record strong figures.

That's right. -- Woolworths. Up

5.1%. It is a great reading on how

people are willing to spend their

money, and it was as expected. The

CEO said, watch this space. They arrive retailers in the electrical

area that may struggle, because the

competitive environment is still

fierce. Woolworths closed up 0.7%

today at $26.72. On the broader

market, the SNP was up about 10

points, with the Australian dollar

by 105.6 US cents.

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