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Clarke and Dawe on Qantas woes

Broadcast: 25/11/2010

Reporter: John Clarke and Bryan Dawe

John Clarke and Bryan Dawe's take on trying times for the flying kangaroo.

Transcript

TRACY BOWDEN, PRESENTER: Here is John Clarke and Bryan Dawe on trying times for the Flying
Kangaroo.

BRYAN DAWE: Thanks for your time.

JOHN CLARKE: My pleasure to be here. Good evening.

BRYAN DAWE: Now, you're with Qantas?

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, I'm with Qantas, yes.

BRYAN DAWE: You're having a difficult time at the moment, aren't you?

JOHN CLARKE: We are having some difficulties right at the minute, yes.

BRYAN DAWE: Engine troubles.

JOHN CLARKE: Engine trouble, which is not good. Planes not in the air ...

BRYAN DAWE: Smoke in the cockpit.

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, although that pilot very sensibly and very professionally took the precaution of
turning back.

BRYAN DAWE: Pigeons running into your engines.

JOHN CLARKE: Pigeons were not our fault. We're bringing a legal action against those pigeons, and
the pilots, I might say, have taken very sensible precautions in both those instances.

BRYAN DAWE: Sure, but you've also been fined a huge amount of money for being a cartel.

JOHN CLARKE: In Europe, Bryan, we have ...

BRYAN DAWE: A billion dollar fine for being a cartel.

JOHN CLARKE: A billion dollars was the total fine. We had a small part of that to pay.

BRYAN DAWE: $12 million.

JOHN CLARKE: 12 million quite small dollars as a part of a bigger ...

BRYAN DAWE: But it's a serious problem, isn't it, being part of a cartel?

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, it is, Bryan.

BRYAN DAWE: It's anti-competitive behaviour. It's anti-competitive behaviour.

JOHN CLARKE: It is anti-competitive ...

BRYAN DAWE: And people are not fools. I mean, if they know something is rigged, they're gonna get
very, very angry.

JOHN CLARKE: You don't think people would tolerate a small number of players in a market?

BRYAN DAWE: No chance. And there's been criticism of the banks here.

JOHN CLARKE: How do you think people feel about the media in Australia?

BRYAN DAWE: I beg your pardon.

JOHN CLARKE: How do you think they regard ...

BRYAN DAWE: I beg your pardon.

JOHN CLARKE: How do you think they regard the Australian television market?

BRYAN DAWE: In the case of television, there may be some private enterprise players, but there's
also state-owned players.

JOHN CLARKE: Right, a total, Bryan, of maybe five.

BRYAN DAWE: Plenty of diversity there.

JOHN CLARKE: Two of them are owned by the same outfit, the Government. A total ownership of four.

BRYAN DAWE: Are you talking about this ...

JOHN CLARKE: What do you mean choice, incidentally? I'm not sure they are getting choice.

BRYAN DAWE: Are you talking about this on the other ...

JOHN CLARKE: What do ya mean choice, incidentally? I'm not sure they are getting choice. And of
course I'm talking about ...

BRYAN DAWE: Are you talking about this on the other four channels?

JOHN CLARKE: I've just done three interviews at the other TV stations.

BRYAN DAWE: And were you wearing that tie?

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, of course I was wearing that tie.

BRYAN DAWE: Well, can you change that tie, please?

JOHN CLARKE: Why do you want me to change my tie?

BRYAN DAWE: Because we want some diversity.

JOHN CLARKE: If you want diversity, Bryan, why don't you change your tie?

BRYAN DAWE: That's just a completely different interview. I am from the ABC. Clearly, my interview
is gonna be quite different from the commercial stations.

JOHN CLARKE: Exactly the same so far, Bryan, if it's any comfort to you.

BRYAN DAWE: Maybe we should both change ties.

JOHN CLARKE: We'll both change ties and you should up about cartels and I'll stop telling the truth
about broadcasting.

BRYAN DAWE: I will.

JOHN CLARKE: Right.