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Tonight on the 7:30 Report, the Australian tourist who survived tragedy only to be trapped by a
legal loophole.

I've lost the life that I had. I am angry. It's just not right.

People buy tours all the time. They believe they're protected. They sometimes can suffer horrific
injuries yet there is no adequate avenue for compensation.

'Painful and futile' future ahead in Afghanistan

'Painful and futile' future ahead in Afghanistan

Broadcast: 22/06/2010

Reporter: Heather Ewart

While bipartisan support for Australia's commitment in Afghanistan is still strong, the Greens and
some military observers say remaining in Afghanistan will be painful and ultimately futile.

Transcript

KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: As another three Australian families come to terms with the loss of their
loved ones in Afghanistan, the first family member has spoken publicly of his pride in his brother
Benjamin Chuck's service for his country.

Three commandoes died in a helicopter crash early yesterday as they flew to a battle in Northern
Kandahar; another seven were wounded.

While bipartisan support for Australia's commitment is still strong, the Greens and some military
observers say remaining in Afghanistan will be painful and ultimately futile.

Here's political editor Heather Ewart.

JOHN FAULKNER, DEFENCE MINISTER: Tragically, three Australian commandoes from the Special
Operations Task Group were killed yesterday. Seven were wounded in the incident involving the crash
of an ISAF helicopter in southern Afghanistan.

KEVIN RUDD, PRIME MINISTER: All seven injured soldiers are in the Kandahar military facility. The
Australian Defence Force continues to ensure that they receive the best possible medical attention.

JOHN FAULKNER: Of the seven wounded Australian soldiers, the most recent assessment is that two are
in a very serious condition. One of those soldiers has sustained a serious head injury.

HEATHER EWART, REPORTER: Another three Australian soldiers dead in Afghanistan, more solemn
speeches to the Federal Parliament, more funerals to come.

KEVIN RUDD: The thoughts and the prayers of all Australians are with the family, friends and
colleagues of those involved in this incident.

JOHN FAULKNER: The specific cause of the incident is yet to be determined and it's inappropriate to
speculate until the investigation into the matter has been completed.

HUGH WHITE, DEFENCE ANALYST, ANU: It does just though put more pressure on the Government to
explain effectively why we're in Afghanistan, why it's so important to Australia that we should be
prepared to lead - lose 16 lives and I'm sure tragically more to come.

HEATHER EWART: As the death toll rises, the Government is now as good as warning it's going to get
higher, with Defence Minister John Faulkner today predicting a difficult period ahead and an
increasing level of violence in Afghanistan. But there's no going back.

KEVIN RUDD: These are hard days; very hard days. But I wish to reaffirm to the House the
Government's commitment that we will complete this mission in Afghanistan. Fundamental national
interests are at stake. National interests which go to the security of us all and the security of
our friends and allies. We therefore will stay the course and complete the mission which we have
embarked upon in Afghanistan.

HUGH WHITE: He keeps on saying that we're in Afghanistan to prevent a resurgence of terrorism, but
I think it's very hard to argue either that what happens in Afghanistan makes much difference to
Australia's threat from terrorism. Terrorists can train and organise from many places in the world
apart from Afghanistan. It's also very hard to argue that what we're doing in Afghanistan has got
much chance of success.

TONY ABBOTT, OPPOSITION LEADER: I again commend the work that Australian Defence Force personnel
are doing in Afghanistan in very dangerous conditions. I hope that knowledge of their vital
contribution to our security will be of some consolation to their family and friends, and I wish to
assure the Prime Minister that the mission of Australian forces in Afghanistan has the support of
the whole House.

HEATHER EWART: The Government and the Opposition may be at one on Australia's military presence in
Afghanistan, but the public is not, with a recent opinion poll showing a sharp drop in support for
Australian involvement in the war. The Government is acutely aware that sentiment is likely to
intensify with the deaths of more soldiers and it could face increased pressure to pull the troops
out.

HUGH WHITE: Well, I think there will be inevitably and quite properly in some ways, but I also
think there's a countervailing pressure builds on the Government as well; that is, the more troops
have died, the more it seems a betrayal of their death for the Government to pull out.

HEATHER EWART: The lone voice in the Parliament seeking an immediate pullout comes from the Greens.

BOB BROWN, GREENS LEADER: That war, which was begun by President Bush and badly handled at the
outset, is not one that's Australia's responsibility. And we'd be doing the right thing, I believe,
by bringing our troops home. The Karzai administration is weak, ineffective, unpopular and not
making the advances one would expect.

JEFFREY BLEICH, US AMBASSADOR: This isn't a war we sought. This isn't a war that we wanna fight,
but it's one that we have to fight. There are terrorist networks that are based in Afghanistan that
have launched attacks around the world and would launch 'em again, and the only way to secure the
US, Australia and other countries is to go take the fight back to them in Kandahar.

HUGH WHITE: I think in the end, the argument boils down to being there to support the United
States. That's not an illegitimate thing to do, but we do have to ask ourselves whether the
particular kind of support we're providing to the United States, the way that contributes to our
alliance more broadly, is worth what it's costing us.

HEATHER EWART: And that's a question that's being mulled over increasingly in military circles,
with divided views on the best approach. What is accepted is that for now the Government is staying
the course. It certainly won't be boosting our military presence, but nor will it set a timetable
for withdrawal.

HUGH WHITE: I think we'll start pulling out when the Americans start to pull out. I think that'll
happen in about a year's time. And I think we're just kind of holding on and going through the
motions until then, and tragically, going through the motions means that Australian soldiers have
died and I expect will keep on doing so. It's not a happy outcome.

JEFFREY BLEICH: There will be a greater risk for casualties and losses. That's - so we are, we're
at a tough phase and it's a period that's necessary and it's important and we are positive about
the approach, but it's still extremely painful.

HEATHER EWART: And set to become more painful for the Government, for the Australian military and
for its families.

In the introduction I referred to one of the three dead soldiers in Afghanistan this week as Jason
Chuck; in fact it was Private Benjamin Chuck. Jason Chuck is his brother.

Political editor Heather Ewart.

Trapped by legal loophole

Trapped by legal loophole

Broadcast: 22/06/2010

Reporter: Natasha Johnson

A woman who lost her husband and was left paralysed by a horrific Egypt bus crash calls for
compulsory insurance for outward tour operators.

Transcript

KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: Four years ago, six Australians were killed and 24 others injured when a
dream holiday in Egypt ended in a horrific bus crash. The Victorian coroner has blamed the accident
on driver fatigue and criticised the organisation of the tour without identifying which company was
responsible. But victims of the accident would like to pursue legal action against the
Melbourne-based tour organiser, though are unable to because the company had no public liability
insurance, nor was required to. Now, Lynne Panayiotis, who lost her husband and was left paralysed
by the accident, is calling for compulsory insurance for outward tour operators to protect
Australian travellers. Natasha Johnson reports.

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: I'm angry. It's just not right. And I've always tried to base what I do in life
on what's right and wrong. And this is wrong.

NATASHA JOHNSON, REPORTER: Anger mingled with grief after a coroner's finding left unanswered
questions about who was to blame for the Egypt bus crash four years ago, in which six Australians
were killed and 24 injured.

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: I woulda liked to have been able to said that's the person who's responsible for
my husband's death, and I can't do that.

NATASHA JOHNSON: Lynne Panayiotis and her husband George, a Victorian police officer, were on a
dream holiday to Egypt in January, 2006 as part of a cultural exchange trip, including police
members from around the country.

It ended in disaster when the coach they were travelling in ran off the road between Alexandria and
Cairo after a marathon day of sightseeing.

CARMEN BUTCHER: I saw the bus in front veer off the road. It hit a sand dune on the side of the
road and spun 180 and then started to flip through the air; I think it flipped about four times. We
could see luggage and people being thrown out through the windows.

NATASHA JOHNSON: Carmen Butcher, a police officer from Alice Springs, was travelling in the bus
behind. She climbed into the wreckage and suffered a broken hip, pelvis and ribs when the roof
collapsed on her as she rescued Lynne Panayiotis.

CARMEN BUTCHER: I saw a hand sticking out of the sand, just scratching at the sand. So I got down
on my hands and knees and just dug and found Lynne buried - like, her head was buried under the
sand. And Lynne said, "Don't leave me," and asked me to stay. So I continued to kneel over the top
of Lynne and attempt to dig her out.

NATASHA JOHNSON: Lynne Panayiotis remembers little of the crash in which she suffered horrific
injuries. She was left a paraplegic and had one part of one leg amputated. Her husband, George,
died in the crash.

What have you lost?

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: Where do you start? Everything. I've lost the life that I had, I feel I'm not the
same person that I was and I wanna be that person and I wonder if I'll ever get back there.

NATASHA JOHNSON: She's had extensive rehabilitation at Royal Talbot Hospital, but has had to give
up her career as a high school teacher, can no longer live independently and still struggles to
cope with the loss of her partner of 23 years.

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: It's just so overwhelming. And then when he's not there to comfort, it just
exacerbates it. And then I go down to shut down.

NATASHA JOHNSON: And what's compounded the trauma for Lynne Panayiotis and other victims is that
they have no avenue for compensation.

BERNARD MURPHY, LAWYER: There is no justice for Lynne Panayiotis at the moment.

NATASHA JOHNSON: Coroner Paresa Spanos found that the crash was caused by driver fatigue after the
Egyptian bus driver clocked up 625 kilometres during a 14-hour shift. She also found that the tour
was poorly organised, without sufficient personnel or rest breaks.

During the inquest, lawyers for the survivors argued that the Melbourne-based tour organiser, Egypt
Tours, whose owner Stephen Seif accompanied them on the trip, was in control of the tour and
therefore responsible. However, Mr Seif claimed he was merely a travel agent and facilitator and
that the Egyptian-based Grand Tours was the principal organiser.

The coroner couldn't determine which company was in charge. It' extremely difficult to pursue legal
action in Egypt and the victims plans to sue the Australian tour operator have collapsed because
their lawyers say the company had no substantial assets and no public liability insurance.

Australian-based tour operators, however, are under no legal requirement to have public liability
insurance.

BERNARD MURPHY, LAWYER: Well it's a disgrace that you could sign up for a tour in Victoria, have it
operated by the Victorian overseas and yet have no entitlement to any compensation if the tour is
run negligently. Personal travel insurance covers your medical expenses and your travel home. It
doesn't generally cover the injuries you suffered, the pain and suffering, the loss of enjoyment of
life or the future economic loss that you incur.

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: It came as a real shock to find that someone organising tours like this doesn't
have public liability insurance. For goodness sake, the local playgroup needs to have insurance, as
does the Scouts and a whole pile of other charities, and yet someone who's been organising these
tours for years isn't required to have insurance.

CARMEN BUTCHER: You'd never think to check if someone has got this public liability insurance
before you book a holiday through them.

NATASHA JOHNSON: They're calling for compulsory public liability insurance for outbound tour
operators.

BERNARD MURPHY: It's a problem in every Australian jurisdiction that people buy tours all the time,
that they believe they're protected. They sometimes can suffer horrific injuries and yet there's no
adequate avenue for compensation.

NATASHA JOHNSON: But there's unlike to be reform anytime soon. Travel agents are licensed by state
governments, but the Victorian Government says the issue would be better addressed at a national
level and has no plans for a stand-alone scheme. But the Federal Government has indicated it's
reluctant to mandate insurance, as it would be unlikely insurers would be willing to provide cover
for accidents occurring overseas.

Egypt Tours Stephen Seif continues to organise tours, but declined to comment on whether he now has
insurance. Crash survivors continue to struggle with the lifelong consequences of a trip that
turned to tragedy.

What do you say to Mr Seif today?

LYNNE PANAYIOTIS: Remember us. Remember us every time he takes another group.

KERRY O'BRIEN: That report that Natasha Johnson.

Roxon defends mental health record

Roxon defends mental health record

Broadcast: 22/06/2010

Reporter: Kerry O'Brien

Health Minister Nicola Roxon defends the Government's mental health record following the
resignation of the chair of the Federal Government's National Advisory Council on Mental Health,
John Mendoza.

Transcript

KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: On the program last night we featured an interview with the Rudd
Government's most senior independent mental health adviser, John Mendoza, who has resigned in
frustration over what he says is the Government's lack of vision and commitment to the mentally
ill. Professor Mendoza says the advice to the Government from his advisory council and the Health
and Hospitals Reform Commission on mental health has been ignored. In his resignation letter to the
Health Minister Nicola Roxon he said the most vulnerable of all Australians had suffered shameful
neglect and been ignored by the Government in its health funding.

To respond, the minister joins me now from Canberra.

Nicola Roxon, Professor Mendoza commands respect from within the mental health field. You obviously
respected him because you appointed him to your advisory council. His criticism of your commitment
to mental health is trenchant and I'm told that those sentiments are reflected also by the vast
bulk of other members of your advisory council. It's clear this is no fit of pique and I don't
think you'd question either his sincerity or his credentials, would you?

NICOLA ROXON, HEALTH MINISTER: No, look, of course we regard him as an important figure in mental
health. Quite rightly you say we appointed him. We set up this advisory body. The previous
government didn't have one. Of course I don't agree with all of the comments that Professor Mendoza
has made, but I do agree with a large number of them, which is there is a lot more to still be done
in mental health. I don't think we should speculate on what every other member of the advisory
council's views are. John is a very independent character, as he's absolutely entitled to be, and
that doesn't necessarily reflect everybody's views.

But I think the important issue here is I take seriously the criticisms. I don't think anyone can
pretend that we have a system in mental health in Australia that is working at 100 per cent. It
hasn't for many decades. But we believe some of the steps we're taking are good ones. They may not
be quick enough for Professor Mendoza or for others. But it isn't possible when you're undertaking
significant reform to do everything at once. And I certainly don't blame people for saying, "We
would like this area to have more." But I - I guess from a government's point of view, think that
it's fair to be able to describe the range of changes we are undertaking, what opportunities that
provides for the future, what early investments we've made, and to have an agenda for the future.
Now, ultimately, obviously Mr Mendoza doesn't share that view and that's a matter for him. But I
think, you know, that's a robust argument we can have in a country like Australia and we shouldn't
be frightened of it.

KERRY O'BRIEN: If it was just John Mendoza you might shrug it off, but here's what Australian of
the Year and eminent psychiatrist Patrick McGorry has to say about the Rudd Government's commitment
to mental health: "The system is absolutely on its knees. We have a famine-like situation and the
mental health system is getting the scraps from the table." Do you disagree with him too?

NICOLA ROXON: Well, I don't think that it is fair to say and set up that we're disagreeing with all
of these people. We share the view that both Professor McGorry and Professor Mendoza have put that
more needs to be done. We are making more investments.

KERRY O'BRIEN: No, no; they're not just saying more needs to be done, minister. They're not just
saying more needs to be done.

NICOLA ROXON: No, ...

KERRY O'BRIEN: One says that you are ignoring, effectively, mental health as a serious health
priority. The other says that mental health is getting the scraps from the table. That's not just
saying more needs to be done.

NICOLA ROXON: Well, I think if you want to unpack those issues, we think that we are doing a lot to
improve the system. I accept that not everyone thinks it's enough. I think if you ask Patrick
McGorry whether he's pleased about the extra investments in his creation, Headspace, he would say
yes. You know, another 20,000 young people will get services because of investments we're making.

KERRY O'BRIEN: When?

NICOLA ROXON: Now that might not be enough - well, the money starts flowing for that from 1st July
- 30 new sites ...

KERRY O'BRIEN: Hang on, the money for the new site starts flowing from 1st July; not the money for
the existing sites?

NICOLA ROXON: No, the money for the existing sites was a previous Budget decision; the previous
government didn't provide ongoing funding for the 30 Headspace services. That's already been
committed, that extra money, that's already flowing, but there are another 30 sites to be
established.

Now, it's just a small example, and I think that Professor McGorry and John Mendoza are expressing
a view which is a legitimate one, that we have a serious problem in mental health. It's one we've
had for many, many decades. We're trying to restructure the health system to improve a whole lot of
the things that they have identified as problems. It's lack of connection, mental health patients
falling between GP services and psychologists service and hospital services. We have to fix the
foundations to be able to do some of that properly, and unfortunately that means we're not doing it
quickly enough for some people.

KERRY O'BRIEN: OK. Well, he says on - this isn't just some people; these are key people in mental
health. He says that the Headspace funding that you have allocated is barely enough to keep the
original 30 youth-friendly mental health centres established under John Howard going, let alone
fund another 30. He says that the new funding for mental health represents about two per cent of
your total health spend of - new health spend of $7.3 billion. Dr Leslie Russell, the policy
advisor to Julia Gillard when she was Shadow Health Minister, has estimated - and she's got 20
years experience in health policy. She calculates that the Rudd Government has cut $354 million
from mental health programs in its first three budgets so far. Is she wrong too?

NICOLA ROXON: Well I haven't seen her calculations of those figures. We have across all of our
areas in the health portfolio made changes where there were underspends in certain areas because I
think that the mental health sector agrees that some of these programs were not having a good take
up, mostly because of a workforce shortage, again another legacy from the previous government which
we're trynna turn around. But we can't create doctors and nurses and psychologists and
psychiatrists overnight. Those sorts of investments, unfortunately, take a long time to come
online. And we are going right back to the source to make sure that we've got enough of the
workforce to do this work, to make sure the structures are right so people don't fall between the
gaps of the system. And I do not pretend for a minute and take very seriously these criticisms that
there - that everything is fixed. I've never tried to pretend that. But, when you are undertaking
...

KERRY O'BRIEN: But, sorry, again, minister, with - again, with respect ...

NICOLA ROXON: Well, Kerry, just let me finish, though. What I'm saying is: when you are undertaking
very significant reform, you have to do it step at a time, carefully and sensibly, so you can build
on the foundational changes, and that's what we're doing.

KERRY O'BRIEN: But with respect, minister, you are understating the strengths of the concerns being
expressed by people like John Mendoza, David Crosby, Ian Hickie and many others. Did your office
ask Professor Mendoza and two other advisory council members - Professor Ian Hickie and David
Crosby - in November last year asked them to work up a proposal for you on spending for mental
health, that after months of work they gave you a detailed set of policy proposals for $250 million
a year over four years, a total of $1 billion, which they regarded as a modest start on what was
critically needed and which you reduced to $115 million over four years.

NICOLA ROXON: We've had lots of proposals, both from those people that you've mentioned and from
others. We get a lot of advice from the advisory council and individually from members on it
because most of them represent particular stakeholder groups. We have taken a lot of that advice.
We haven't acted on all of that advice yet, and I think that that is what is causing some
frustration.

But I think your listeners would be surprised to learn from the coverage over the last few days
that one of the reforms that was urged upon us early in our term in government was to get one level
of government responsible for mental health, a proposal was put forward that that should be the
states which our advisory council vehemently opposed. We asked them to conduct some urgent
consultations on it. They advised us against it. We took that advice. They then asked us, quite
rightly, to see whether the Federal Government could take more control. We got that agreement in
part at the COAG agreement this year in April, with the Commonwealth taking on more control for
community mental health. We cannot afford, in a system which is already significantly under stress
in mental health, to completely throw all the pieces up in the air. We have to keep providing the
services that are there and try to reform things at the same time.

So, I just don't think it's fair to pick out some of the examples when we've taken their advice on
many issues. It is an advisory council; it's not a decision-making body and it is the Government's
chance to take that advice or not. Many of the ideas are still being worked on and considered by
the Government. We think there's a lot of work to be done and their work is valuable. But,
ultimately, Mr Mendoza needs to make a choice whether he wanted to be in the tent to work for that
change or whether he wanted to advocate outside the advisory council role and he's made that
choice.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Well he obviously decided there was no point staying inside the tent because he
felt, as I'm told others in that council also feel, that you simply either have not listened to
their advice or you have not been capable of acting on it within the budget process.

NICOLA ROXON: Well, I think that listening to their advice and being able to act on it are
different things. We have listened very carefully and taken very seriously their advice, and I take
very seriously this criticism. I mean, no Health minister could pretend that mental health services
are operating perfectly across this country.

KERRY O'BRIEN: In crisis, minister; they're in crisis.

NICOLA ROXON: Well, we have a lot of our health system that is under severe pressure. I don't think
...

KERRY O'BRIEN: But isn't it also true that these people are the least able to represent themselves?
These are people whose voice has so often in the past been the least heard, that their votes don't
necessarily count with government?

NICOLA ROXON: Well, I can absolutely assure you and your listeners that no decisions have been made
based on whether people vote or not for these issues. We've got a serious reform agenda underway.
We are doing a lot of things that all of the political advisors would tell ya not to do because
it's too hard. If we were just in it for the votes, then we wouldn't have undertaken the
comprehensive, detailed and very difficult health reform that we're in the middle of. So, I don't
think that is a fair accusation to make.

KERRY O'BRIEN: OK.

NICOLA ROXON: And we look forward to being able to work further on these issues as we rollout the
rest of our health reforms.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Nicola Roxon, thanks very much for coming on.

NICOLA ROXON: Pleasure.

KERRY O'BRIEN: Thankyou.

Collection of a life time up for grabs

Collection of a life time up for grabs

Broadcast: 22/06/2010

Reporter: Rebecca Baillie

Businessman and property tycoon Warren Anderson and his estranged wife Cheryl are selling their
immense collection of antiques, fine art and the just plain strange in what is being billed as the
auction of the decade.

Transcript

KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: Businessman and property tycoon Warren Anderson is no stranger to
controversy. He's attracted headlines for his private zoo in the Northern Territory for
unsuccessfully suing the Western Australian Government after the collapse of Rothwell's bank and
for his association with the failed fuel technology company Firepower.

Now, Warren and Cheryl Anderson's marriage has broken down and their immense collection of
antiques, fine art and the just plain strange is to be sold in what's being billed as the auction
event of the decade. Rebecca Baillie reports.

REBECCA BAILLIE, REPORTER: It looks like a bizarre garage sale, but the 4,000-odd items in this
inner Sydney warehouse are a multimillion dollar reflection of an extraordinary passion for
collecting.

CHERYL ANDERSON, COLLECTOR: The Owston Collection was gathered over our marriage of 42 years. We
started out collecting as a great love of antiques and it grew into much more than that. It's the
most beautiful table you'll ever see.

REBECCA BAILLIE: Cheryl Anderson's marriage to property developer and entrepreneur Warren Anderson
is over. Now the Anderson's collection of antiques and curios, amassed by the family company Owston
Nominees, is being sold off.

JAMES HENDY, BONHAMS AUSTRALIA: That is as big as any collection that you will see being offered in
the world, you know, this year, last year or within the last 10 years. We would not want to miss
out on this one, that's for sure.

REBECCA BAILLIE: Bonhams's auction house has flown in experts from all over the world to catalogue
and value the collection which it expects will sell for up to $8 million, perhaps more.

TIM SQUIRE-SANDERS, BONHAMS FURNITURE SPECIALIST: A fantastic collection of clocks and Japanese
armour. Not every time do you see Japanese armour. I've seen probably two or three pieces in 30
years. I've got 12 to choose from here.

CHERYL ANDERSON: My husband never just has one piece of anything. If he loved it, he would start
collecting more of that certain thing like the animal heads and the stuffed birds. He really did
get into all of that.

REBECCA BAILLIE: The collection not only boasts fine furniture, art and clocks, but the taxidermy
is already turning a few heads.

Would you have them in your living room in?

JAMES MCELHINNEY, REMOVALIST: Ahh, no. No, I've got a live animal and that'll do me. I'd bid for
the polar bear, but I don't know where I'd put him in my house.

CHERYL ANDERSON: My husband was a bit of a hunter and he went for miles and miles with the Eskimos
to find a polar bear. And once the polar bear gets a sniff of you, it - he then starts to come for
you. But anyhow, my husband's a very good shot.

REBECCA BAILLIE: The polar bear has been withdrawn from sale, but buyers can still indulge in
stuffed animals from big game to rare and extinct birds to Victorian kitsch.

TIM SQUIRE-SANDERS: That's actually one of things that when I showed my children the catalogue,
they really said to me, "Daddy what is it?" There are certain styles of decorating where you do
need this type of thing. Everyone has their own taste. It may be not be yours, it may not be mine,
but there are people out there who would want something like this. Sadly now, though, because rhino
horn is a desirable commodity, there are less and less and they do get broken up.

CHERYL ANDERSON: It got to the point where I really did feel like it was a bit of a museum and I
tried to talk some common sense, say, "Look, you know, perhaps we should sort of buy - instead of
just buying, perhaps we should sell as well."

REBECCA BAILLIE: For the head of Bonhams Australia, James Hendy, this is a once-in-a-career
opportunity to sell such a vast collection.

JAMES HENDY: It's very unusual these days to find people who collect in this manner. There's very
little porcelain. Bar some dinner services and a couple of vases, there are no fancy porcelain
figures or anything too delicate and feminine. Absolutely right: it is a gentleman's collection.

CHERYL ANDERSON: There was a great feminine touch all the way through it. There was a lot of
cutlery and crockery. And my main thing I collected was the satin wood pieces and the French
pieces. And I felt that I could give live with them very happily.

REBECCA BAILLIE: It's hoped some of the more historically significant items, like the specimen
cabinets once owned by colonial naturalist Sir Joseph Banks, will be bought by Australia's cultural
institutions.

This painting by Australian war artist Will Longstaff of the ANZAC landings at Gallipoli was
believed to be lost until it resurfaced in this collection.

JAMES HENDY: It was purchased in 1928, directly from the artist, by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, whose
son had served at Gallipoli, so it was highly significant to him. Its condition is pretty much
original to the day it was painted.

REBECCA BAILLIE: While Cheryl Anderson says she won't miss some of the more unusual items, she is
sad to see the collection go under the hammer.

CHERYL ANDERSON: I don't think I'll be wanting to live with a polar bear. Some of the pieces I
would have loved to have kept. It just hasn't been practical, and so you just can't think like
that. You just gotta think, "Well, look, we had them for those many years and enjoyed them and it's
time to move on."

KERRY O'BRIEN: I imagine the polar bear would have wanted to choose his own company too. Rebecca
Baillie with that report.

this's the program for tonight. We will be back at if same time tomorrow but for now goodnight.