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Clarke and Dawe on the health plan

Broadcast: 22/04/2010

Reporter: John Clarke and Brian Dawe

John Clarke and Bryan Dawe on Rudd's health plan.


KERRY O'BRIEN, PRESENTER: Time now for John Clarke and Bryan Dawe with the week in politics.

BRYAN DAWE: Kevin Rudd, thanks for your time tonight.

JOHN CLARKE: It's very good to be with you, Bryan. Good evening.

BRYAN DAWE: Now you've got a deal on the health plan?

JOHN CLARKE: We have, yes, a big week Bryan, and very pleased...

BRYAN DAWE: But it was a success, you got a result.

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, there will be details to iron out over time but yes, we're pleased, Bryan.

BRYAN DAWE: It was a big meeting, wasn't it, the COAG meeting this week?

JOHN CLARKE: It was a huge meeting, this one, Bryan, and can I say a tribute to everybody involved.

BRYAN DAWE: Everybody involved.

JOHN CLARKE: I mean, these are very, very big issues, Bryan, very important issues and these are
tectonic shifts that we're masterminding here.

BRYAN DAWE: In the health system?

JOHN CLARKE: Well yes, Bryan, by inference, I suppose, yes they will have some effect on health,

BRYAN DAWE: What actually happened?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, can I say, a lot of the work was done in advance of that meeting...

BRYAN DAWE: Yeah, but you had a lot of problems this week didn't you?

JOHN CLARKE: Well we did Bryan, yes. We had quite a lot of problems, you probably saw the eruption.

BRYAN DAWE: Well, yeah, there was footage online.

JOHN CLARKE: That's right.

BRYAN DAWE: Do we know what caused it?

JOHN CLARKE: I have heard various theories, Bryan, but we had to deal with it on the ground.

BRYAN DAWE: Mount Brumby had gone off.

JOHN CLARKE: Mount Brumby had gone off, Bryan and it was just spewing a whole lot of volcanic ash
and smoke into the atmosphere, yes.

BRYAN DAWE: But Mount Brumby had been rumbling for a time, hadn't it?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, it had, Bryan, I mean it's not as if we hadn't had some warning, but we were -
the reality was pretty dreadful.

BRYAN DAWE: Nothing was moving...

JOHN CLARKE: Well, you couldn't move, you couldn't see anything. It was completely...

BRYAN DAWE: Where exactly is Mount Brumby on the map, there? You've got a map.

JOHN CLARKE: Here you go, Mount Brumby's here. See, we're here, this is Mount Brumby here.

BRYAN DAWE: Yeah, I see, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is under all that ash we can see there.

JOHN CLARKE: This is the satellite image; it's under all that sort of murky crap there.

BRYAN DAWE: Yeah, and when do you think it might clear?

JOHN CLARKE: Well, it's - We don't know, Bryan and of course it got a hell of a lot worse on
Tuesday. That was...

BRYAN DAWE: Yes, Mount Barnett went off?

JOHN CLARKE: Mount Barnett! I mean, could I have a worse problem, please? Could you get the hurdles
any higher?

BRYAN DAWE: Still, I thought it was a success.

JOHN CLARKE: Well, it was, Bryan, but I mean, I'm thinking about the clean-up cost. I mean, this is
going to end up costing us a hell of a lot of money in the long run, isn't it?

BRYAN DAWE: Incidentally, whereabouts is Mount Barnett on the map?

JOHN CLARKE: That's out to the West, here. See this is the - out here. See? Further.

BRYAN DAWE: I see. Oo, how bad is it there?

JOHN CLARKE: It's terrible! It's terrible out there. I mean, you couldn't see anything out there.

BRYAN DAWE: Well, how is the visibility?

JOHN CLARKE: Oh, you know, not bad - you know, for me age.

BRYAN DAWE: No, no, I mean at Mount Barnett?

JOHN CLARKE: Oh, no, a person down there could not see anything. I don't think they can see
anything. I repeatedly pointed out to them that they can't see anything.

BRYAN DAWE: Haven't they got a GPS?

JOHN CLARKE: Yes. The problem is they won't give it back. You see, we've given them the GPS, Bryan
and all we want's 30 per cent of it back. They won't part with it - you see, that's the problem.

BRYAN DAWE: So Mr Rudd, are you getting reports?

JOHN CLARKE: Yes, we get reports all the time. I get reports all the time.

BRYAN DAWE: And what are you doing with them?

JOHN CLARKE: Put them with the other reports, Bryan. We've got quite a lot of reports. We've got a
wing full of them.

(Phone rings)

Just excuse me. Hello?

From who?


No, we won't be accepting those charges. Thank you very much.

BRYAN DAWE: Who was that?

JOHN CLARKE: Oh, just a mate of mine called Colin, Bryan.

BRYAN DAWE: Yeah? Wh-what...

JOHN CLARKE: God, you give them $5 billion bucks and they ring you collect?


JOHN CLARKE: It's a bit of a bloody cheek, isn't it?

BRYAN DAWE: Sure is.

JOHN CLARKE: I'm not accepting that. Bugger him. He can wait.

KERRY O'BRIEN: John Clarke and Bryan Dawe with a bit of a visibility problem.