Note: Where available, the PDF/Word icon below is provided to view the complete and fully formatted document
Disclaimer: The Parliamentary Library does not warrant the accuracy of closed captions. These are derived automatically from the broadcaster's signal.
9am with David and Kim -

View in ParlView

(generated from captions) This program is captioned live.

Good morning and welcome to 9am

with David and Kim. Good morning

everyone. Good morning big Dave.

Good morning little Kim and I do

stress the little bit. That's very kind. Stkpwhrfrplts because we're kind. Stkpwhrfrplts because

all going to hell, aren't we. 9.3

million of us are obese. Don't ruin it, I'm going to talk about it in

news. But before you talk about it

in news, I have a theory. What's

that? We're all getting really,

really fat and worried about paying

too much for petrol, so I figure if

we pay double what we're paying now

for petrol. We might get out of the

cars. And we won't be so fat. And

walk. Perhaps. Or run. As long as they get the public transport

system set up properly around the country. Well, we can't wait for

that either. Yeah, that might be a

while. But I maintain that we are

paying - no-one wants to hear this

obviously, but I maintain that we

are paying too little for petrol.

We have to rethink the way we deal

with life now. As a result of

petrol prices. You're not winning

any friends here. Of course not, I

don't want to do it myself, but we

have to rethink. The sooner we are

less reliant on petrol. Let's go

geothermal. We like that idea. Yes,

it sounds wonderful. I keep

thinking that I should invest in

geothermal shares. Absolutely. Now,

I'm going to apologise if I'm a

little bit sleepy today, because I

was at the five chefs dinner

was at the five chefs dinner last

night with Quarters and it is the

big fund raiser for the Starlight foundation and they do such a

marvellous job. And they raise a

fortune too. And these things are

all over the country and they're

just fantastic. And they really get

behind it. And I bet it was a great night because when you get those

guys together, they very funny and

entertaining. Hilarious, and it was

so beautifully put together. You

know, Captain Starlight all over

the room and I think everyone had a

good sense of how important Captain

Starlight is. I want to send a

little hello because we had the

beautiful Murray Brown on the show

a couple of years ago who has

cystic fibrosis and he's one of the

kids who benefits enormously from

Starlight's fantastic work. Murray

is back in hospital - it is kind of

a regular thing for him and he's

not very well at the moment. And

we're just wanting to say hello and

send our best thoughts to him. He's

a beautiful, beautiful kid. Goopd

on him, he's got plenty of fight

and spunk in him. It is the mass of

nerve tissues in the cranium that

controls our nervous system and

thoughts and actions and it is a

remarkably brilliant hunk of stuff.

But we know so little about it.

1500 of the world's finest brain specialists are in Australia for a

brain-mapping conference, and this

morning, one of them Gary Egan will

explain the latest. Some know Jane

Ferguson as the big sister of Sarah

the Dutch else of York, but Jane is

also a PR whizz. She's just walked

the Great Wall of China with Olivia the Great Wall of China with

Newton John and has thrown herself

head long into raising more money

with cancer charities through her

Midnight Cancer Charity. Very

strict dress rules for that event.

As they are at the horse race.

Correct. Little children just love

Justine Clarke - don't we all. They

hang on her every word and spend

their mornings playing and now the

'Playschool' faifite is on a tour.

She'll wow the nation's most demanding audience but this morning

will join us for adult time. And

then Turkish delight, I know that's

one of your favourites, Dave, but

Shane Delia will be creating

something a little bit different.

He's doing a do nut with Turkish

delight. It's Friday the 20th of

June. What's in the news?

As David indicated before,

Australia has been shamed by new

figures showing we're the fattest

nation on earth. 26% of Australians

are now classified as obese - just

edging out Americans at 25%. That's almost four million

Australians who are classified as

overweight. A million more than a

decade ago. Obesity complications

will also force more hospital

admissions, costing the nation an

extra $6 billion in healthcare. It

is extraordinary. We've finally

taken over the Americans. Yes, and

I have to question those figures.

In this morning's paper, they're

saying "Australians who are

overweight number 9.3 million". Yes,

so we're talking about that

percentage that is overweight as

opposed to those who are obese.

The drinking habits of mums and

dads rather than pierce or

advertising have the greatest

impact on a child's future alcohol

consumption. That's the new message

in a health department campaign

that aims to tell the next

generation that getting drunk isn't

cool. Parents are warned to watch

how much they drink and not to

laugh at drunken behaviour. The

Drink-wise television campaign will

run for six months.

Euthanasia advocates have condemned

the conviction of two women over

the mercy killing of a Alzheimer's

sufferer. They claim he wanted to

die, but prosecuters argued he

was incapable of making that decision.

Shirley Justins could face 25 years

behind bars after a jury found her

guilty of manslaughter. So too does

her friend Caren Jennings, found

guilty of being an accessory to the

crime. 71-year-old Graeme Wylie was

suffering from Alzheimer's when his

de facto, Shirley Justins, gave him

a fatal dose of Nembutal, imported

to Australia by Caren Jennings.

Both people say that it was choice,

but the Crown argued it was not a

decision. Just a week ago, he

changed his will leaving Shirley Justins $2 million. Dr Philip

Alzheimer's patients not to go to a Nitchke says he will urge

doctor. We'll be holding work shops especially for people with

Alzheimer's teaching them how to

get around this nasty legislation.

His comments slammed by Alzheimer's

specialists who say sufferers

support. specialists who say sufferers need

A man charged with killing and

torturing her -- a woman charged

with torturing and killing her

twin babies documented her anguish

on a popular parenting website.

She's now been placed on suicide

watch. Both parents are now facing

life sentences after their charges

were upgraded from neglect to

torture and murder.

On to happier news - Hugh Jackman On to happier news - Hugh Jackm

will be honoured with a gold star

on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Jackman joins 2,000 entertainers

who had their names stamped there.

Jackman will receive the star in a

ceremony next year. Gee, they plan

it in advance. They do and very

nice whiskers he's sporting. He's a

handsome dude. More on those story

coming up in the news at 11:00 and

a full wrap in Ten News at 5:00.

Without it, we'd simply a lump of

flesh. Completely useless, but with

it, we're all-conquering. The human

brain contains 100 billion neurons

and is it any wonder that the grey

matter is such a grey area. This

week, top neuro scientists have week, top neuro scientists

been in Melbourne pooling their

expertise and looking at mapping it.

Gary Egan is from the Howard Florey

Institute and he joins us this

morning. Good morning. What does it

say about Australia's role in brain

research to have such a fabulous

conference here in Melbourne. 1500

of the world's brightest. Yes,

exactly. It's been enormously

exciting and the international

organisation was very keen to come

to Australia because we have such

strong brain imaging research here

and so many fantastic medical research institutes, particularly

in Melbourne and that's why they

chose us. What are some of the more

extraordinary things that have come

out of the meeting? Well, the

kpwining was really astounding for

me personally, because we had a

chap called Michael Gazanger who is

cognitive neuro science as opposed

to cellular science is about the

frontal lobe in humans that gives

us the ability to make decisions,

judgments, you know mathematical

abilities and so on. And he gave us

the key note lecture on Sunday evening and he talked about a

completely new area that's opening

up called social neuro science

which includes areas like neuro

ethics, how can we use our understanding from neuro science to

understand, for example peoples'

actions you know when they actions you know when they for

example commit criminal acts, what's their slight differences

compared to people who decide not

to commit those criminal acts. I

don't know, how can you possibly

identify that? How do you find

that? I mean, how do you realise

that's what you're looking at? What

they're doing at the moment is

putting people inside MRI scanner

and monitoring the very small and

tiny variations in blood flow in

the brain that proceed when they

make a decision. And they show that

whereas we've known for quite a few

years that you can detect 20 or

perhaps 100 Milly seconds before a

person makes a decision. Which is a

10th of a second. You can tell

they're going to make the decision

before they have it in the brain

function. And you can tell when a

person will make a decision. So,

literally watching the brain think?

Exactly. It is extraordinary. I was

fascinated reading some of the

information on it, because I have

twins who were nearly seven weeks

premature, and you discovered some

really amazing things about the

premature brain, haven't you? We have. It's been very, very

important. The children's hospital

here in Melbourne has been one of

the leading hospitals worldwide,

together with the Murdoch

Children's Research Institute and

the Howard Florey Institute and we

initiated about six years ago, a

program to stand babies within 24

hours after they were born or in

the case of babies born prematurely

to wait until they were term

equivalent and then scan with an

MRI scanner. And that sounds like a

pretty scary situation for adult,

you can imagine what it is like for

babies and certainly for their

parents. But we're able to do that,

and through scanning the brain at

that point in their life, we can

see what might have happened see what might have happened inside

the brain as a consequence of

prematureity, and then be prepared

to give those little babies and

little children as they grow up,

personalised therapy to help

overcome some of the problems of

premature birth. What have you

discovered specifically? We firstly

saw a number of years ago how some

of the areas, the volumes of the

brain are reduced in volume, and

that's not surprising, that's sort

of been fairly obvious. But most

recently and one of my PhD students

at the Howard Florey Institute ,

Diane Thompson showed that the development of the connections

between particularly the left and

the right hemispheres of the brain

is affected and is one of the

things that prevents the

development of cognitive abilities

in the children - or probably does.

Delayed development? That's right.

And of course, any parent of a prem

knows that they correct their age

up until about four or five when

they're very, very premature. And

are you saying that it takes that

length of time for the brain to

catch up? Or might the brain never

fully catch up? Well, we actually

don't know, and the study that we

started about six or so years ago

is now going to continue on is now going to continue on with

some recent finding from the NHMRC

and my colleagues at the Children's

Hospital are going to reinvestigate

these children now at six and seven

years of age and obviously address

the question you raised.

Extraordinary. You mentioned the

left and the right hemisphere of

the brain. What do we know? I know

you've been doing research you've been doing research into

what determines its development.

What do you know about that? One is

genetic, one is environmental? Well,

there's both factors, that's for

sure. But going back about 40 years

ago, there was a procedure in some

patients to prevent the spread of

epileptic seizures from one

hemisphere to the other where they

would cut the connections between

the two hemispheres through a

section where all the fibres cross

in the middle of the brain. I've

seen that process in medical shows

where they do that? Exactly,

exactly and that's the area where

our keynote speaker was the

individual who did that research

back in the '60s. His supervisor

got the nobel prize for that

research back in the '70s. It's

always the supervisor, isn't it!

Yeah, it is always the supervisor.

But the bottom line was that they established that the left

hemisphere is the speaking hemisphere can discuss and talk

about things, but the right

hemisphere is the analytical

hemisphere and it seems to

understand and decode and come up

with a decision about things, but

the left hemisphere communicates

that. But, am I right in saying,

more recently you determined that

they are driven by different

factors? You're talking about

development here now. Yes, OK. It

is difficult for me to get my...

limited brain capacity around the

understanding of the brain. And it

is Friday as well, isn't it! But

yes, please explain that. There's

been a genetic development and an been a genetic development and an environmental development? There

are, there are certainly genetic

developments that drive the way the brain develops, and for example,

recently it's been worked out that

the pathways, the white matter

connections between the brain areas,

they continue to develop right

through to early adulthood which

has been quite surprising, because

most of us would grow physically in

size to our full height or whatever

by at least our mid-add owe

lessance, but the brain is still

developing, it is remarkable and

that's an aspect of the plasticity

or the opportunity for what we call

plasticity for the experiences that

someone has in their life actually

moulds their brain. Inmean, it is

quite extraordinary hearing these

things, because in the past, we've

been led to leave that we don't

actually know much about the brain,

and certainly the leaps in even the

last few years have been extraordinary, to the point where

we're now looking at brain mapping.

Can you explain what that is and

why it is so significant? I can,

yes. So, brain mapping is the term

that's used for when we're

imaging living people. People like

us in a scanner. As you said, real

time function in the brain. And

that's only been possible for about

15 years through MRI scanners and

originally positronimography

scanners and that's led to the

explosion of research in the brain

so we can now investigate our

brains, non-invasively and so

that's led to the conference that

we had here in Melbourne this year.

Obviously a part of that is just wanting to know how it works, but

there are raem applications, aren't

there? People with Alzheimer's and

epilepsy and so on? Even people in

comas. That's right, you've been

checking out the website for the

conference. We've been swatting up.

Trying to get my head around it.

The coma study was really

fascinating, because of course,

there's been a long-standing debate

if you like about what it means to

be in a coma and the level of

consciousness of a person. Clearly

they couldn't communicate, but we

didn't know if they could actually

sense their environment, perhaps

hear things, and then of course

when people came out of comas,

sometimes they would say that they

could hear things and could

remember hearing things. So a group

in the United Kingdom did a study

where they put people who were

comatose inside a scanner and asked

them to imagine doing things like

playing tennis or compared to

imagine themselves listening to an

audio or watching a movie and we

know that different brain areas are

activated to those different tasks.

So when they asked the person to do

this who was in a coma and

seemingly couldn't understand them,

they were able to differentiate the

area that were involved in

movements, what you would do when

you're playing tennis or visual

areas with watching something, so

it was clear that they could hear.

And the implications of that are

extraordinary. They are, that's another aspect of social neuro

science which is helping us

understand the status of people who

can't, perhaps communicate for

themselves in that case, and how

the laws need to be I guess,

refined based on our understanding

of brain function. So it begs the

question, given what you're question, given what you're

starting to understand now, if you

know that you can detect seven

seconds before something happens,

the brain reacts, can you actually

rewire it? Well, I guess rewiring

is in our context, something with

you call therapies, cognitive behavioural therapies and that's

very important, and that's why the

psychologists and the neuro

psychologists come in and it is

critical and we work with our

colleagues in those areas to look

at what does change in the brain

after those therapies have - after

the patients with those therapies

have used them. One thing I find

incredibly fascinating, especially

given the fact that we o now know

that Australia is the fattest nation

on earth now. What do we know about

the brain's role in the management

of hunger and obesity? That's a

terrific question and we started to

look at that with colleagues from

the centre of Obesity Research at the centre of Obesity Research at

the Alfred Hospital, Professor Paul

O'Brien and his colleagues. We

started looking at low BMI people

to figure out what's going on in

the brain of people who are

normally getting hungry and eating a normal amount. And my colleague

Michael Farrell presented pathways

deep in the brain which deep in the brain which are

activated when people are content

after a meal, and the continued

research now is to take people who

are obese and to compare them and

see which nuclei deep in the brain

may be excessively activated or

continually activated, perhaps in

a reward pathway sense which is the

reason that they continue or a

possible reason that they continue

to eat without associating or

being satisfyed. Could we be

looking at, given the fact that

record levels are at record highs,

could we be looking at something

happening in the brain over the generations, that there is

something, some trigger causing

the brain to react in that way?

That's very much the hypothesis.

What are the hormoneal release that

is we need to develop drugs to intervene with to generate the sensation of satisfaction, and

that's a very exciting and

important area of research. Quickly

before we go, you mentioned earlier

that our brain is still developing

into our 20s. Therefore, we must be

very concerned about binge drinking,

cannabis smoking and its effect on

the brain? Absolutely. It is a life

sometime experience of course,

because at the other end of the

life, to retard some of the neuro

processes, exercising our brain is

extremely important, so maintaining

a healthy brain all your life is

what I'd recommend and that's the

Howard Florey Institute's logo.

Only time will tell whether that

damage that's done early in your

teens will be evident later on.

Exactly. Good to talk to you.

Fascinating to talk to you. After

the break, a change of pace.

'Playschool''s Justine Clarke

'Playschool''s Justine Clarke joins us.

This program is captioned live. Not

only does Justine Clarke light up

the lives of thousands of children

as a presenter on 'Playschool', she

lights up the lives of thousands of

theatre goers as an actor with

extraordinary range. Now you're

going to have to endure her in the

car as the kids demand to listen to

her new CD over and over and over.

She's about to head off on a

national tour to promote her new CD

of children's songs and she's here

to share the secrets of her success.

Let's talk about 'Playschool' first

up. Why do actors up. Why do actors regard

'Playschool' as almost the ultimate

thing to do? It's really

prestigious amongst actors? It is,

there's a practical level which is

that it is great part time work and

you can come and go and still do

other jobs. That's very handy on a

practical level. But it is also

just a great joy. It is just the

simple act of story telling and

playing and having fun and it is

sort of a direct relationship with

children. You call it a simple act

but I don't reckon it would be. How

do you approach it? Do you approach

it like an actor? Absolutely. In

fact, lots of people will write

letters and wring in to

'Playschool' saying, I think - I'm teacher and I think I would be

great. And they always come back to

actors, because well, I mean,

firstly they know how to learn

their lines and it is all very

seriously scripted and they go over

and over and over the scripts to

make sure that they're just right

for the audience. So, how does

'Playschool' then help you with

something like Heda Garbler which

is something completely the other

end of the scale. Which you did on stage with Cate Blanchett in New

York? Yes, we toured to New York, a

couple of years ago now. To the

Brooklyn Academy of Music. What

does doing a kid's show teach you.

I have read that you believe you're

better as an actress as you

improved on 'Playschool'. I think

it is because kids know if you're

lying, and acting is about

revealing the truth of a moment or

of something within you. So, of something within you. So, you

know you always have to be on your

toes and also, you always have toes and also, you always have to

be relaxed and open and that's a really handy tool when you're

acting as well. And are you able to

- OK, opening night in New York

with Cate Blanchett, I mean there's

so much riding on that. There's so much riding on that. There's so

much for the Australian industry really riding on something like

that. Absolutely. So it is opening

night, how relaxed are you? Well,

funnily enough, because it was funnily enough, because it was New

York and because we were all

unknown, apart from Cate who I'm

sure, there was a whole other

pressure for her, but certainly for

the rest of us, it was quite

freing because nobody had seen us

before and it was a new adaptation

and they're so hungry for good

theatre in New York. I didn't

actually feel the pressure that I would feel probably in Sydney

having done, you know a whole body

of work and you feel like you're

always building on your last job,

this was a way of just saying, here

we are and aren't we fabulous we are and aren't we fabulous and

they absolutely loved it. They

really loved it. I have read really loved it. I have read that

you loved working with Cate? Yeah,

I did, I lo working with Cate. I've

done it quite a few times now. Why

is she such an extraordinary actor.

I mean, clearly she is, she just

commands the screen, doesn't she?

But, you as a brilliant actor

yourself, what do you understand of

that? Why are some people so able

to do that? Well, I think with Cate

and with Hugo who is also in that

production. Hugo Weaving. They

have extraordinary endurance and

stamina like an athlete and a great

passion for their work and that's

the base of it really is just a

real passion for it. But she's just

so smart, she's just so clever.

She's working on so many levels

that, you know in rehearsals she

would say, "I could do it five

different ways and I could probably

do them all at the same time". You

know and everyone is like, oh! I'm

struggling with one! How has

motherhood changed you as a person

and you as an actress? Well... One

word answer would do! Lots! I must

think on my feet a bit more now

because I don't have as much time

and I think that provides you with

a bit of freedom as well. I might

take some more risks now because I

don't have time to prepare as much.

That's what I'm getting at. You have

to think on your feet and go with

your instinct and commit to it. your instinct and commit to it. I

would imagine that you know before

you get married, before you have

children and you're an actor, children and you're an actor, you

are just living for the role,

aren't you? You're hounding your

agent and you're auditioning and it

is all important. And then when you

suddenly have kids, you go, right.

In fact, you used to wait for the

phone to ring and now you really

hope that it doesn't because you're

too busy cooking dinner. Exactly or

take the kids to kindy. The reason

skied that because I read something

from Cate Blanchett on a similar

vein saying that having children

doesn't allow her the interspection

to a degree. Is that what I find?

Definitely. Why then do you not

absolutely go for it then in an

acting sense, because you've just

had 'Look Both Ways' come out and

you have an American agent and

given that you're at the best point you've been in your life

acting-wise, isn't this a great

opportunity to just go for it? Well,

going for it overseas is a really

massive decision I think. Once you

have children, you know when you're

in your 20s, you could just pack

your bag and go to LA and see what

happened and maybe stay for five

years and really give it a shot.

But for it to have come quite late

in my life, there are a whole lot

of other factors and I have two

beautiful children and a husband

and they've just started school and

it is a very big decision. And I

have so many wonderful things that

I'm doing here, I actually I love

being here and I love telling

Australian stories, but I do. I

love being Australian and being

auto a part of this industry auto a part of this industry and

being able to do all of these

different things. Like going on the

road. Go on tour. Let's talk about

the CD. How much fun has this been

putting it together? It's been great

How do you write a kid's song.

What's important? It is. What's

important doing it, rieming

repetition or important that the

parents like it? A bit of both,

really. That's what we really tried

to do. With 'I Like To Sing' which

was the first album one of the aims

was if you played it over and over again, you could find again, you could find something

interesting to listen to. And we've

done that again with this album.

Peter Dason writes all of the songs

and he's just a wonderful composer

and musician and he loves writing kids songs, thankfully and people

have really responded to them. I

like to sing really just took off

without much effort actually. We

loved making the album, simply

because we loved the songs. Once

we went on the road the first time,

I realised that people were coming

to celebrate the music. And that's

a really great atmosphere. It's

very interesting, a very

interesting part of the music

industry, really because you're not

asking to appeal to one audience,

you're really asking to appeal to

two audiences because the parents

are going to go and buy it, but if

the kids don't like it, they're not

going to buy it again. So you have

to make sure that two audiences

like it, don't you? That's true. In

America they have a saying with

awful the movies like 'Shrek', they

call it co-viewing. They've got

call it co-viewing. They've got a

word for it. Vk they do. We had Jane Kennedy and she was laughing

saying that she agreed to be in one

of 'Wiggles' videos because she

would be cool with the kids. Is would be cool with the kids. Is

that the case with you? Oh, yeah.

And in fact, when you're out in the

supermarket and it is often the

mums who will say, look there she

is. And the kids are like, who, is. And the kids are like, who, who

is it? Yeah, she's got her hair in

a ponytail, I don't know who she is.

She's in her track suit! Do you

notice having done 'Playschool'

now for almost 10 years, do the

kids, do they change? Do they

become as they grow older or as the

generations change, do they become

a different type of audience? Are

they more savvy or demand more. Do

you at 'Playschool' change your

approach at all? Definitely, the

producers and the early childhood producers and the early childhood advisors on 'Playschool' will

definitely change the nature of the

show ever so slightly. You still

have the regular segments that

everybody knows are going to come

up, but yeah, certainly they will

respond to what they see around

them and change accordingly.

Technology for instance? Exactly,

we had a book where it talked about

someone putting a record on. We

couldn't read that page because

kids don't actually know what

records are. It's sad but true. Oh,

we're all so old. We're out of time

but you're doing this tour

everywhere. Everywhere, national

tour starting in July in the

holidays. And there are the dates

if you want to grab some tickets.

It is very clever so I imagine you

do it in kidy time so you're in do it in kidy time so you're in bed

at kidy time. It's brilliant, home

at 3:00. You ripper, do you miss out

on breakfast in the morning? No.

It's delightful to see you. Good

luck. When the Turks invented their

delight, it was never meant to be

delight, it was never meant to be a

doughnut. Chef Shane Delia joins us. Stick

ROCK MUSIC Want life without wires? Broadband Unplugged - fast Optus wireless broadband. Right now, for a limited time, for just: Free Internet Security Suite until March 31, 2009 and: Call 1800 300 300 or visit online. Yes, we hear you. (Laughs)

Our next guest is the guru of Middle Eastern food and he's

decided to share one of his more unusual Middle Eastern delights.

You are a guru. I'm well, guri, I You are a guru. I'm well, guri, I

like that. I can't imagine why you

would want to do this. Turkish

delight is almost perfect in its

own right and now you're going to

mess with it. You know, everything

can have a little bit of

improvement. How on earth did you

come up with the idea to put

Turkish delight in a doughnut. It

is just the wog version of a hot

jam doughnut. That's all it is.

That was my next question! When you

say "wog", what do you mean nelsily.

These are just Lebanese doughnuts,

but Greeks steel everything. It is

the Lebanese doughnuts with Turkish

delight inside and rose water honey.

And you know that Australia is the

fattest nation on earth. This will

help. It's all going wrong. Is it complicated? No, it's really

simple. Just a simple doe. First

start off with the flour and a

little bit of salt. Now, we use all

of these funky little tubes. How

fabulous is that. Down at Maha, we

have some Raza Hanout which we use

on all of the cooking, that is like

a house spice. What is that? It's

like a 20-spice blend which is

used on everything and it served

on the table and we roast lamb with

it. Can I pinch some of those? Yeah,

I brought them in for you. You can

use them across the board. Even at

home having a BBQ and some lamb.

Oh. But you're not putting it in

here? No, just to show you the test

tube! Very confused. And when you

say Maha, that's Shane's restaurant.

Maha is my restaurant and my wife!

I'm not saying that the wife's

restaurant, my wife's name is Maha. That thr was an interesting That thr was an interesting

question there. You named your

restaurant after your wife! You

wouldn't want the restaurant to go

bad, would you. Everyone says that

chefs have affairs with the

restaurant - this way I'm safe. I

knew there was a line coming up. I

was at myed we agriculture my

business partner, George Colombaris

and he was talking about the

restaurant and what a good time he

had and we basically said, why

don't we do a restaurant based

around the inspiration. So you

made a simple dough. Mixed the

yeast and the flour and the sugar

and the salt and put it aside for

20 minutes and that will prove up.

What do you mean prove up? What do you mean prove up? Like

when you make bread. The yeast when you make bread. The yeast will

grow and air. I know all about that.

I bought a bread machine. I'm into

it. I've gone off. I wish I had

time. Bread machines are fantastic

for six weeks. No, I'll use it

forever. I think just find a better

bakery. No, because I'm very into

not giving the kids preservetives

where I can help it and no

chemicals or additives and using chemicals or additives and using

organic unbleached flour. You're

better than that. You were' in my

way. So, what are we doing here?

Here we're making the syrup. We

have honey and a little bit of rose

water. Is it lygurian honey? No, this is just honey from the shop!

Shop honey! Yeah. So if we were

using the honey just by itself, I

would say, yeah, use a great honey.

But seeing as we are anticipate

infusing it with rose water and

vanilla and all of those things, it

doesn't really matter. And I think

it is a bit of a waste of money. Oh,

OK. Basically, just getting a nice vanilla bean and scaping out the seeds. I love the smell of this fresh vanilla. It is toast pine nuts and get this. This

is one of the most popular dishes in the restaurant, people and hoard around for this recipe. Who did you pinch it from? Ask George, he'll say I stole it from him, I say he stole it from me. Something we share! Now, this is the technique, you can probably give it a go if

you like. You need to get your

piece of Turkish delight. A bit of

the gough. You need to get it in

your hand and make a ball and put

the Turkish delight inside. See, I

could hurt myself with the oil.

Yeah, maybe dobt don't do it. I'm

not good with hot, sharp and

not good with hot, sharp and

electrical. And you just squeeze it

out of the hand. Yeah, and you're

off. It's very sexy actually. Is

it? Don't you think? Really? I find

cooking incredibly, you know like

it is so tactile and fantastic as

you're doing it. So yeah... All

right then, clearly I'm alone. No,

look indon't want to talk too much about those things because

about those things because my wife

is definitely watching this at

home! Basically, this is the type

of food that you want to eat late

at night. At Maha, we're open

Saturday nights. What is Sahra? You

know, you say Sahra is the evening

or what you're doing in the evening

at Maha, we're open until 3am with

the Sahra.

the Sahra. So, it is all sweet? No,

sweet and savoury and a Mezze list.

And you serve hookers. No, that's

the shop down the road! Would you

like to book in, David. No, we

don't serve hookers, hooka is the

Indian word for the water pipes. We

have them in Maha. We have

have them in Maha. We have an

indoor court yard area with the

Turkish delight filled doughnuts. I

want want to promote smoking, but

being in the Middle East, when you

go to the cafes in the Middle East

au sit back there with the

gentlemen and they bring you apple

scented. Is there tobacco in it?

And you can get ones without

nicotine. Apple and that.

nicotine. Apple and that. Parsley?

I don't understand the attraction.

So you have an area where you can

do that? Yeah, you can have

whatever flavour you like and yeah,

you're up and running and can have

doughnuts and lebaneez coffee and

an Arabic oozo. These look

incredibly easy. Listen, the way

that you were doing that and doing

that thing with your hand,

that thing with your hand, can you

just get a spoon and do that? Yeah,

you can get two spoons and it is

little bit more fiddley. But fur'

going to do it. It looked quite

complex. But a bit of practice,

you'll get them. Are they ready,

we're running out of time. You take

them out of the fryer. Don't drain

them? No, they'll be fine it's

doughnuts. This is the honey that I

used before so you need to let if

get cool. Pour sofr some of the

pine nuts. Now, my hands are made

of asbestos so they can handle the

heat and serve them in the little

bowl. In the restaurant, we serve

them with a pistachio ice-cream,

the hot and cold element. The smell

already is fantastic. Thank you so much, Shane,

much, Shane, that looks really

delightful. We'll get into that in

the ad break. Maha bar and grill.

If you would like the recipe for Turkish delight filled doughnut,

you can jump on to the website.

We'll be back after this. We all know fresh is best, and imagine being able to have fresh herbs, veges, flowers, whenever you need them. And you don't even need a backyard to do it.

Here on 9am we have something new - and Dennis, I believe this is the world's first indoor smart garden? That's right, Marianne, this is Aero Garden. It's been a huge hit internationally, and this is something we can all use. A super-productive indoor garden that lets you grow herbs, lettuce, tomato, chillis, flowers, in fact all sorts of things faster than you can imagine, indoors all year round. Now, it uses NASA-proven technology, doesn't it? That's right. NASA-proven aeroponics. Let's see how that speeds up the growing process.

Here you've got lettuce growing in the Aero Garden versus lettuce grown traditionally. Now the difference is amazing. Imagine growing a garden like this on your kitchen bench. All that growth in 36 days and you'll keep on picking and using it for months. It's extraordinary watching it grow, everything is so beautifully lush and green. I guess this means you can always have crispy, fresh, super-healthy herbs in your home?

Of course. No more soggy lettuce or wilted herbs. I mean, why would you? There is nothing fresher than picking straight from the plant and going straight to the bowl. Think about how often you buy salad and herbs and use it for a meal and you end up throwing the rest away? That won't happen because you pick what you need. And I can see there's no dirt in here? That's because Aero Garden and aeroponics is a very different way of growing. It's so fast and germination is 100% guaranteed.

Let's see how it works. The Aero Garden is a self-watering, self-feeding smart garden that grows delicious natural herbs, vegetables, fruits and flowers, with no dirt, no weeds, no pesticides, no work and no fuss.

You don't even need a green thumb. It even tells you when to add the water and nutrients and automatically turns the grow lights on and off to maximise growth.

And how do you get the Aero Garden started? Simple. You just add water and the organic-based nutrients. Pop in the plug-and-grow seed pods, select the plant type and you're up and growing. You can start picking in weeks, and keep enjoying the same crop for up to six months. Think of how much money you'll save and of course how much better your food will taste knowing that you're using the freshest possible ingredients. I want you to try this for me? A bit of basil on the bruscietta.

Mmm. Great flavour.

Mm-hmm. With Aero Garden, Marianne, it's always fresh. It's definitely a healthier option for the family because you know for certain that absolutely no chemicals or pesticides of any kind have been used. With fruit and vegies getting more expensive every day, this makes great sense and the Aero Garden looks good too. It does, and they come in black or white. And there's a silver Aero Garden too, for a little extra. You can ask the operators about that. Aero Garden looks beautiful on the kitchen bench

but people have them in pride of place in the lounge room or the rumpus too. They're lush, green and very much a talking point. And it would be good to get the kids involved too, Yeah. I'm sure they would love watching things grow so quickly. That's right. And you can order extra seed kits from Global Shop Direct, and they'll keep you supplied for months at a time.

There's gourmet herbs, tomatoes, chillis, Italian herbs, basil and gorgeous petunias, that you can grow right on your kitchen counter.

And for the green thumbs there is the master gardener kit. You can grow and propagate plants from your own garden. Doesn't matter where you live, whether it's in season or not, Aero Garden will give you a guaranteed crop every time. Sounds like it will pay for itself in no time, How do we get one? To get your very own Aero Garden, here's what you do - get on the phone or go online right now. You'll get Aero Garden in your choice of white or black

and you'll receive the gourmet herb seed kit valued at $29.95, A and absolutely free. Remember to ask the call centre if you want the premium silver model for a just a little extra. Aero Garden will bring super fresh food into your home super fast for five easy payments of $49.99 plus postage and handling. It's brand new to Australia and Global Shop Direct. Call now to order, or go online: Thanks, Dennis, for Global Shop Direct.

Oh, Kim, I might need your help.

All right then. We have a All right then. We have a fantastic

e-mail from Melanie regarding our

chat about brain function.

I always wondering being premmy

affected it and my oldest daughter

was born at 35 weeks and three day

and was on C-pap. Yes, it's a

special oxygen system for babie

special oxygen system for babies

where they - where the pun puts out

tiny little puffs of air. "She was

on C-pap and in NICU. She's three

years old and is only just starting

to make sense and she seems to be

wired differently to my other two

children, my son 19 months and my

younger child. I always wondered if her premature birth caused the

wiring to be different. Glad to

hear that there is someone out

there researching what is a worry

to me as a mother. I hope other

parents don't need to go through

the stresses that I've done through

to find out what is "wrong" with my

daughter. Although wild, she is

still wonderful". In the research

notes we got, they said they think

this thr may be a link between

premature brains and hyperactivity, premature brains and hyperactivity,

attention deficit disorder. After

the break we'll meet the woman who

when not hanging with the royals

Doctor, what's the great news for us coffee lovers? What we now know, Liz, with an excellent natural source of antioxidants. Now, these help keep our bodies healthy -

Yeah, that's true, Liz. I'm feeling really good about that.

She recently returned from walking

to Beijing and has barely to Beijing and has barely had

enough time to soak in the tub enough time to soak in the tub and

now she's at it again. This time, a

charity event based on a charity event based on a very

British morse race to be held at

midnight in Australia. Despite

leaving England for our sunny

shores 30 years ago, Jane

Ferguson's fascination with the

Royal Ascot races continues right

down to the strict dress code and

she joins us to reveal her list of no-nos.ns us to reveal her list of no-nos.

Before we get on to the charity

fund raiser you're in Melbourne for, let's talk about the

experience with Olivia walking the

Great Wall of China. What was it

like? Life changing. It was quite

incredible. Olivia is the most

inspirational, motivating person

I've met and she didn't miss a beat,

she walked every day. We had 60 to

80 degree grade yen and she was

just fantastic, she really was. Oh,

Joan Rivers in the stilletos. Kim

and I were talking, we did a live

cross to my brother at one stage.

Really? He keeps himself very fit

and he was saying the same thing,

it was a struggle. He was saying it

was extraordinary and some sections,

a skinny little pathway and a

massive drop away. Absolutely, I'm

terrified of heights but when

you're walking with cancer

thrivers, your fear of heights is

totally insignificant. It really was very special and we were all

put out of our comfort zones. put out of our comfort zones. And

you were there, am I right to chaperone some of the international

guests. Yes, there were two

chaperones and we had to take all

of the people from Beijing airport

to the middle of no where, six

hours on a couple of planes which

were scary and then chaperone and

then back to Beijing airport. So I

got to know Beijing Airport very well. What was the memorable

moments for you? As I said, putting

me out of my comfort zone and

facing my fears with the help of

the very brave cancer victims or

thrivers as we called them. Also,

just seeing jemp one as equal.

There weren't any celebrities and

everyone was equal and we

everyone was equal and we would

sing around the campfire at night

in the tents that brought me back

to the bush days. We heard from, I

think it was James who was telling

us that each morning, everyone got

together and sang a song and he

said, ordinarily you would think

that it was daggy but it was very

powerful. We did, we all joined

hands and we sang the song that

Olivia and Delta have done toget

Olivia and Delta have done together

called 'Don't Give Up' and

called 'Don't Give Up' and we

shared stories at dinner at night

time. There were some amazing and

curageous people. Fund raising was

extraordinarily successful too,

wasn't it? It was, and every night,

John Scott who was the head of the

logistic program announced, right,

so come on so and so, you haven't

raised this much and you have to

raise more. But everyone in

Australia thought we were having a

wonderful House of Lords day it wasn't like that

wasn't like that at all, it was

really, really tough going. I think

you raised in excess of $2 million

which is an extraordinary amount, it really is an extraordinary

amount of money and you've been

involved in fund raising for

years, and you're very good at it.

What does it take when we're all

stretched for funds and people,

charities working left, right and

centre. What does it take to get people to hand over

people to hand over money? Oh gosh.

Maybe coming up with creative

ideas, I think this was a great

idea of Olivia. But not only that,

she's passionate in her vision

about the Austin Hospital and how

in Melbourne is going to lead the

world in how you treat cancer in a

holistic way which is fantastic. It is extraordinary, isn't it? is extraordinary, isn't it? The

Olivia Newton John Cancer Centre

will be ground-breaking in every

will be ground-breaking in every sense. Did you get behind it

because of the focus on alternative

therapies, or were you just completely won over by Olivia and

her passion for it? I think, yes

absolutely. Olivia's passion and

vision, but also my father died of

cancer, and everyone is affected by

cancer, and if you can do something

like that and look there's like that and look there's Cliff

and I. And there's - that's my

daughter, Heidi. She climbed the

last stage. But I think it is

important. If you can do something

like that and push yourself out of

your comfort zone and raise money,

well, it is great to give back to

the world. It is. Let's talk about

the fantastic fund raiser.

Midnight at Ascot, where in the

world did you get that idea from?

It is not my idea, it is Mark

Skaife's idea, ARR. Mark Skaife

being... No. No, other man. Oh! He

runs ARR and he put this idea

together and he asked me to host it.

So while I was on the Wall, Mark

kept ringing me and I organised

most of it from the Wall with Mark., So it is happening

So it is happening because the

actual horse race is happening in

England. Absolutely, Mark is

heavily involved with the racing

industry here. And so, it is

midnight at Ascot race and so we're

going to watch six races live from

Ascot - hopefully I'll see Ascot - hopefully I'll see my

little nieces. There they are now!

It's a beautiful tradition because

they always arrive in the carriage.

And of course these things,

fascinators. But some of those

clothes. Some of those weren't

appropriate at all, they had no

straps. I was reading through, the

invitation because I'm going as

Jane's date. Because we're dateless.

The invitation came with a very

strict list of dos donts. No

spaghetti straps, not too much. The

tradition in the Royal enclosure

that is where the invitations have

come from for tomorrow night is

that you don't show your shoulders.

So everyone has been having an

absolute fit about what to wear. At

all, because I think I'm showing my

shoulders. Yes, you can show your

shoulders but you don't have shoe string straps.

string straps. The girls have

measured and the strap has to be

1.5cm wide. So, you're just there.

But people will seriously be

knocked back? Absolutely. I'm going

to go very traditional Ascot,

Charlie Brown has created the most Charlie Brown has created the most

amazing suit. And men are in

morning suits. They don't have morning suits. They don't have to

wear the tails, you can wear a grey

suit or a black suit with a grey

tie, but a top hat. You've

obviously been in the Royal

encluesure in Royal Ascot. Many,

many years ago but it is amazing.

Everyone turns out in their finery

and you're looking - you sort of

don't really dare too much because

your hat might off. I remember it

was a particularly windy day when I was a particularly windy day when I went. Can you imagine the

embarrassment along the way. You

mentioned your nieces, I want

mentioned your nieces, I want to

talk about them, because there was

a photograph and here they are.

Eugenie and Beatrice. There was a

lot made of a particular shot of

her on a beach in a bikini and the

comments were so nasty towards her

that the girls really do cop a lot,

don't they? Yes, they do, but gosh,

you know, let's concentrate. As

you know, let's concentrate. As

Sarah said, let's concentrate Sarah said, let's concentrate on

the positive. Beatrice is in her

gap year, she's going to Goldsmith

in London. And in her gap year, she joined Sarah seas charity in

England and she is trying to raise

for children who aren't educated,

?4 million. That's a huge amount of

money. And she's determined to

spearhead that project and

spearhead that project and she'll

do it. Let's concentrate on the

good things. You know, she's not a

model, who cares. Exactly. Exactly,

who cares and importantly too for

Sarah, because we know that her

whole thing has been about positive

body image and we need to be body image and we need to be

telling our daughters and young

women that they're beautiful, not

that they could fix things about

themselves? Absolutely, and

Beatrice is the most beautiful girl,

Beatrice is the most beautiful girl,

inside and out and let's

concentrate on the good things. I

mean, going to Goldsmiths, and she

struggled terribly with her dyslexia. How difficult is it for

your nieces to have any semblance

of normal life? It is gone? Look at

poor William and Harry, they have

the same. So, what do they do to

try to have some semblance of try to have some semblance of a real life?

real life? Do they have to spread

themselves away. A holiday with themselves away. A holiday with

Auntie Jane. I think that Sarah and

Andrew have brought them up to have

a relatively normal life. You know they have their cars and they go

shopping and they do get chased

every time they go somewhere or get

photographed in the ocean. It is

interesting, you mentioned Prince

Andrew, their father. He seems to

do it very well. He seems to avoid

the media glare. Perhaps they're

not as interested in him as not as interested in him as

Beatrice and Eugenie at the moment.

But certainly Sarah and Andrew have

managed - you devil. They've

really managed to come together really managed to come together

and be, I guess the perfect

separated couple

separated couple parents. No, they

really are. They've done everything

in their power to talk to the

children and just be normal, as

much as they possibly can. much as they possibly can. Yeah,

and then their cousin arrives out

and they've got another mate to go

out on the town with. Or Seamus.

Exactly. But Eugenie has just

finished her A-levels and she's

going to do History of Art. Good

for her. So, are you going to give

us any inside tip of an imminent

engagement anounsment for Will?

Gosh know, I wouldn't have a clue,

I'm out of the loop. I know, but I

had to ask you the question.

Perhaps before we go, the Charity

event is on Saturday night. Perhaps

you would have an inside tip about

a horse to win? What is that

Australian horse, Takeover Target.

So, you're really up on the hors. I have it here somewhere. Yes,

Takeover Target. Well, it would be

good to see an Australian horse.

They've been doing well this week.

Good luck with that, it is a great

fund raising event and I hope it

goes well. Thank you very much.

After the break, the latest from

the Ten News centre. And still to come, house

come, house husband and children's illustrator Andrew Smith.

It's news time now. We're joined by

Natarsha Belling from the Ten News centre.

Good morning. First to breaking

news and a school bus has crashed

into upper Coomera north of the Gold

Coast. 11 students were onboard at

the time but we understand only one

person has suffered a minor injury

at this stage. The bus driver was

trapped but has been freed and has

been taken to Gold Coast Hospital. And as we've already heard this

morning, it is official. Australia

is now the fattest nation on earth.

New figures show 26% of Australians

are classified as obese compared

with 25% of Americans. And four

million are overweight. Obesity

complications will also force more preventible hospital admissions,

expected to cost the nation an

extra $6 billion in healthcare. In the

the morning news, we'll talk the morning news, we'll talk with

an expert over the staggering

increase in statistics and how we

can tackle this national epidemic.