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Good morning and welcome to 9am

with she and me, she being Kim

Watkins. And him. Good morning. How

are you. Fresh from the deng on

this morning! Yeah. Go on, go on,

rotate! Do you like the little

zipper. That's my microphone. Do

you like it? And it is quick access

from both sides. Is that how you

get into it? Does it come as one

piece and then you zip her up? Yes,

yes it does. How about that? What

could possibly go wrong. Good old

Wayne Cooper from Myer, he does

very, very sexy clothes. You put

them on and they hang on to you,

that's for sure. What hangs on to

you. Well, the zipper! I'm hoping I

don't sit and split it. There we

go! After decades spent hammering it

out in massive volume of pubs and

clubs, the hardman of Rose Tattoo clubs, the hardman of Rose

has become hard of hearing. Angry

Anderson is determined to Anderson is determined to remove

the stigma associated with hearing

problems. Audyolgist Natasha

Cummings will join us. You get it

visit wild, out there places and

eat extraordinarily questionable

food, possibly get really ill and

run the risk of being attacked or

robbed or worse. It's the job of a

travel writer and the 'Lonely Planet''s Frances Linzee Gordon has

had most of the experiences first

hand. This morning she'll explain

why she keeps doing it. We'll meet

the cor yog rafer who created

something known as the lindy hop.

It keeps Frankie Manning young. At

93, this extraordinary man is still

kicking up his heels! The fabulous

Adam Richard will be here with four

weddings and a potentially wrong

story. And Dhav Naidu will show story. And Dhav Naidu will

case the fantastic fashions from

the forthcoming collections. Let's

get going.

Imagine if you had one of the

zippers at the front as well! You

could be in trouble! Yeah. Front

page of the paper this morningings,

Mr Rudd at 70%. One thinks that

perhaps he would be 100% if it wasn't

The poverty line is $303 a week or

less. Really? $303 a week and

you're on the poverty line. Single

pensioners are getting $273. This is

ridiculous. I know they've given

them a boost to the utilities

allowance. $400 or $500. It is not

going to rock their world

dramatically but not enough. I want

to know if there is anybody out

there who can afford to live. $273

is what, $14,000 a year. Who can

live on that? It is not much money,

is it? And they've been totally

denied. Here is my suggestion, and

here's why I'll eventually be a

successful politician! Look at all

of the people nodding their heads!

My suggestion is the alchopop tax

increase which will fetch the Government $3 billion and

supposedly stop the kids from binge

drinking, send that to the

pensioners. Either that or send

them the alchopop. That could work.

I have a story that might make some

of the hard done by pensioners

happier. Scientists claim to have discovered the secret of sexual

desire in a break thue that could save millions of lives around the

world. How will this help the

pensioners? Well, you know. Keep

going, stay indoors. They can get a

bit naughty in some of the

retirement villages - if you know

what I mean! I don't know what you

mean. You know, all kinds of...

That's rich coming from you in your

mad am outfit. Hey, just because I

dress, you know... Saucily! We'll

It will go somewhere I don't want completely stop that conversation.

it to. Right, we're talking about

sex. They're developing a wonder

pill to generate sex drive in women

and men who struggle with their

libido.

A bit of Barry is playing! I can't

concentrate now, I've gone all hot.

I've had a little flush. You'll be

right. If successful... Keep going.

If successful, it could outsell

impotence drug, Viagra. You can't

go back, can you. Because it

bolsters the brain's desire for sex,

whereas Viagra boosts only physical

capability. Libido loss affects a

third of women and one in six men.

So, one in three women and one in

six. Incan't remember what I said!

Sorry! No, I read it earlier. One

in three women is affected by

libido loss. Yes. And one in six

men. But, see the difference...

Clearly they weren't meant to go

together. Well, clearly, - no, you

just needed two for one. It is

really going to dangerous territory.

Welcome to Tuesday. I think I

Welcome to Tuesday. I think I might

leave. Let's get to the mood while

you're in this mood. Tim Flanery is

so concerned about the rapid rate

of climate change, he's proposed

we pump sulphur into the atmosphere

as a last barrier to climate

collapse. The process called

global dimming would keep out the

sun's rays and slow global warming

and would also change the colour of

the sky. Marvellous. He concedes

that the consequences are unknown.

Now for the saucy news, what's on

the front page.

The Government's first Budget has

been given the thumbs up in the

opinion polls. Almost half of those surveyed by Newspoll in the

'Australian' newspaper believe that

it will be good for the economy.

It's some comfort to the Prime

Minister as he defends criticism

that the Budget doesn't go far

enough for those in need. There

seems to be a view that in five

months we can redress problems with

pensioners and carer's payments

which have been building for the

last decade. I can't do that. Kevin

Rudd has the strongest lead over an

Opposition leader in 30 years as

the preferred PM. 70% of Australians

support Mr Rudd in both the

Newspoll and the latest Nielsen poll.

Burma's military leaders will finally allow an international finally allow an

relief effort into the country.

With two million people now in

urgent need of clean drinking water,

medical supplies and shelter, the

military junta has agreed to allow military junta has agreed to

aid from the regional allies, but

the Government is still refusing

the help of western countries. The

the UN is trying to convince the

junta to allow a full scale

international aid mission.

Three minutes of silence has marked

the moment a week ago when a

devastating earthquake rattled

China to its core. The tribute is

part of a 3-day public mourning

period to honour the thousands who died.

Meantime, survivors are living in

fear of a another sizable quake.

You can still see the classrooms

open to the air and empty of

children. It's taken Shu Li a week

to find only heart break. One of

thousands of migrant workers

returning to search for their

children. She adds her son's name

to a long list of the missing.

No-one can tell her where he lies

buried. At 2:28 in a play ground

that little more than a week ago

bustled with young life, a sombre

parade. In one smaum town and

across a vast nation, they pause

remember. across a vast nation, they pause to

This has been a week of funerals

stain this country for years and mourning. And a grief that will

come. stain this country for years to

Captured fugitive Tony Mokbel will

face court in Melbourne this

morning. The 42-year-old will

appear via video link from Barwom

prison for security reasons.

Mokbel's legal team insists it is

impossible for their client to

receive a fair trial in Victoria.

Authorities disagree. Although, of

course, his profile has been

exceptionally high, the courts are

used to dealing with people who

have had a lot of publicity. Mokbel

has been charged with the murders

of underworld figures, Lewis Moran

and Michael Marshall.

More on the stories coming up in

the morning news at 1:00 and a full

news wrap in Ten News at 5:00.

In 1976, I travelled to a small town

on the south coast of NSW to see a

band perform in the local mechanics

hall. They were heavy and tough as

jails and jack hammer subtle, tight,

raw and powerful and they were loud

- so loud I left the venue ears

screaming. Today, 32 years later,

they're still screaming. The band

was Rose Tattoo. Years of exposure

to the deafening roar of Rose

Tattoo, exacerbated damage done to

his hearing when he was a his hearing when he was a young

apprentice fitter and turner,

leaving the lead singer with

significant hearing loss. Now,

Angry Anderson is determined to

highlight the importance of hearing

protection and joins us with

audiologist Natasha Cummings. What

are the statistics Natasha. What

percentage of the population do you

think suffers from some form of

hearing loss? We know that it is

around one in six Australians. That

common? Yes, and just over a third

of those with hearing loss will of those with hearing loss will be

as a result of noise damage. So, is

that noise damage generally done

earlier on? It can be.

Increasingly, we're seeing Increasingly, we're seeing the

effects of noise, loud music, MP3

players in a much younger

generation, but also people working

in factory, they have to make sure

that they're wearing ear protection

and ear muffs. At what point and ear muffs. At what point did

you know that you had a hearing

problem? I don't think it was until

very late, well into my 30s and I

realised that when you're working

with monitor, when you're on stage,

you have a monitoring system coming

back and I was continually

adjusting it to get more and more,

which is the first thing that goes.

The high notes you mean? Yes. One

of the reasons that we want to

inform the public, or we

desperately need to get across the

message that a lot of young people

are damaged. The start of the word

and the end of the word begins to

go. This is becoming a problem in

schools, because kids are sitting

down towards the back of the

sentence, and they're not hearing

the start of the teacher's words

and the end of the words and

they're starting to scribble down

words. This will be a problem in

the future that will compound

itself. What we have is a whole lot

of kids in school who don't get the

message. You're talking about kids.

Where are the kids getting the

hearing problems from? Mainly from

inner ear listening. The little

speakers. IPods and stuff like

that? Yeah, but even personal

computers. My kids at home, I have

three teenage boys and they play

games, and you know, it is in a

hutch that's contained sound, and

of course, they want realistic sown

because the games are all about war

and guns and shooting. Surround

sound. Yes, so they have to sound. Yes, so they have to crank

it to the max. But three teenage

boys, I go past their rooms on any

one given day and three different

kinds of music is going as loud as

it can, because they're all

competing. So the onslaught, and it

is not a bad word to use, the

onslaught of noise in the whole

world. How did they react when you

walk past and say, come on boys,

you're going to damage your ears.

They say I'm old. Which of course,

since I've been hearing the devices,

the thing about it is that apart

from the fact... I can't even see

them. See, they sit behind the ear.

Can you get a shot of that. That's

tiny. But the sound is amazing

because you're actually hearing

acoustic sound as well as the ample

fire which is making up for the

sounds that are missing. But my

kids, this is how it has changed

my life in one the ways. I now can

actually hear what my children are

saying. Because children have the

wonderful device with parents where

they don't want the parents to know

what they're saying, they lower

their head and mumble and I say,

"don't say that or don't use that

at the table". Dad can hear you

now! I can hear them three rooms

away! Was it obvious to you when

you suddenly thought, OK, well I'm

not hearing some of the top notes.

Did you think, oh my goodness, my

hearing is bad or look, it's not

too bad. I'm all right? You know,

denial, it's not a river in Egypt!

I lived many, many years, probably

10 or 15 years, not ignoring it,

but well ignoring it and just not

coming to terms with it because I

knew that after each performance, I

was what we called tone deaf, hard

to hear the pitch notes etc. Of

course, there's tinnitus. That's

the ringing, isn't it? That's why

you like to have a radio on when

you're at home, any background

noise at all because it takes it

away, but most of the people that I

know who are in music, and even

talking about it to a relative once,

I was talking about Daryl

Braithwaite the other day and I

said, I love working acoustically

because it is so crisp and clear,

but of course, all of the volumes

are down. I'm not giving up heavy

loud music apart from the fact

that I've moved on, it is not to

do with my hearing loss. But it is

so significant that you have to

make a change in your life that you

get your life back. How are we

going to know? I'm particularly

concerned, angry has mentioned the

children and the devices in the

here how do we know if the children

have a hearing problem unless they

tell us and they're probably not

going to recognise it? Not

necessarily. If they have the ear

buds in and we can hear it, that's

a sign that it is too loud and most

possibly doing damage. Music or

noise that's 100decibels for 15

minutes or more will be causing

the ears damage, that's the

equivalent of listening to equivalent of listening to the

average suburban lawnmower. Are

there tell tale signs? Will they do

this? The teacher can tell,

sometimes learning difficulties .

What happens to the ear canal? What What happens to the ear canal? What

damage is actually done? Not so

much in the ear canal. To the drum

then? On the other side, the tiny

structure called the cochlea which

is the hearing organ, that's where

the damage is. Once it's gone, it's

gone. So, you can't retrain your

hearing or anything like that? Once

it is damaged, you have to get it

fixed? You have to get a hearing device? That's right, you can't

actually restore the hearing once

it's gone, but we can look at

improving as Angry has done with

modern hearing instruments. I'm

thinking that a lot of people

probably when they realise it, and

I'm talking older people, that they

think, well, that's just a pafrt

growing old, there's nothing much growing old, there's nothing much I

can do about it. But that's not the

case, is it? No, denial as angry

said is a fairly common thing. We

know statistically that it is

around about seven years from when

people first detect a hearing

problem so when they seek help and

do something positive. If they go

in early and get help early, can

they minimise the hearing loss? Not

so much, but they can maximise the

hearing that they've got. But also,

I would imagine as a confronting

moment, there's definitely a stigma

attached to wearing hearing aids,

which is ridiculous, but there is.

Probably to do with the fact that

they were so cumbersome and you

could see them. Now you don't

notice them. Was it confronting to

you when you were told that you

needed hearing devices? Yeah, it

was. I battled with it for years.

But in the end, I realised there

was so much of my life missing. Sitting around the table with the

kids, they think I'm not interested

or just ignoring them. But, I just

couldn't hear them. I learnt to lip

read very well. Gosh, was it that

bad? That bad that you were forced

to lip read? Yeah, because I knew

instinctively that I was missing

the starts and the ends and I'm

watching the mouth to when the

mouth makes that sound or has a

certain shape. But in the same way,

I just wanted to get back those

parts of my life that were missing,

and the reason that I've thrown in

with Connect Hearing is that they're an informational process as

well. I wanted to be part of well. I wanted to be part of the

solution and not the problem any

longer, and by being in denial or a

person who was denying myself

access to parts of my life, and

when we spoke about this with the

company, they said, I said, are you

interested in educating the public,

and they said, "yes". And I said,

if I'm going to endorse the public,

I want to be sure that I'm in good

company, and these people really,

really want to do something about

the problem. What difference did it

make? I mean, when you got fitted,

what was the process? Did they

recognise what you were missing and

then adjust your hearing devices

accordingly? Yes. And what was it

like when they got it right? Was it

a sudden epiphony to you? First it

was an over compensation on my part.

I was so happy to have awful the

sounds back in the world. So you

cranked everything up! Yeah, I only

like it loud! But I realised after

a while, the noise of paper and

foot prints on the floor, no-one

hears paper that loud, so over a

series of visits, I got them

adjusted to the point where now, it

is so natural to me. I wouldn't be

without them. I just wouldn't be

without them. It begs the question,

what happens when you take them off.

I presume that you take them off to

shower and sleep? Of course, yeah,

and to read. There are times, you know if I'm walking on the beach

with the dogs, I don't need - not

on the beach, but back where we're

supposed to walk the dogs! You're

allowed to walk them on some

beaches! You walk them on the

beach! No, I have pooper bags! You

just dig it in with a bit of sand.

I also wear sun block all the time!

What happens is that there's quiet

times when you don't actually need them, but in conversation with

people, and that's the thing that

it is an amazing experience, with

all of the sounds. With me

all of the sounds. With me of

course, the loss of the frequencies

was what brings about the loss of

sound, so bringing back the

frequency, I now can hear. When I

was in Sydney last, talking to a was in Sydney last, talking to a

group of people, I said, Steely group of people, I said, Steely Dan,

you remember Steely Band. Fabulous

group. I got one of the new albums

- one of the old albums but I

bought it new. And I had it in the

car and there's a part in it where

there's a bell and it goes "ding"

and Steely Dan. So this thing was

just way, way back in the mix and I

thought, oh I haven't heard that in

years! And it was like... it was a fabulous moment in my life

fabulous moment in my life because

all of a sudden, there was the

little bell again. I'm imagining

that there could also be a few, and

I don't mean to make light of it,

but a few benefits when your

children are irritating you and

you're being nagged. Just quickly

before we have to go, the

technology is amazing nowadays. Is it expensive though to get

something like Angry is wearing, is

it expensive? There's many, many

different options. There's hundreds

of different models and people are

going to get something that suits their lifestyle. And for someone

that's working, that's going to be

very different from someone that's

retired. As a rough sort of guide,

they're going to be around about

$1500 and right up to $10thould for

the most advanced technology and

everywhere in teen, but it is

important to have what suits you.

And you can Hardy put a cost on

getting your hearing back. If

people have concerns about their

own hearing or their childrens'

hearing, what do they do? Phone the

helpline or go to the website which

has lots of useful information and

advice on hearing and hearing loss

and hearing protection, and that's at:

In the meantime, you're touring

again! Yeah. But, Connect Hearing,

well, they've got these things

called hearing filters or audio

filters that you wear on stage that

filter out all of the harmful. So

you can actually hear real sound

but it is not assaulting your hears.

So, you're not going to damage them

further. Just quickly in a

professional sense, speaking as an

old musician. Not so old as most of

us! Is there likely to be damage

caused that I don't realise yet? Yes, quite possibly. And someone

like Angry, if he had have worn

musicians ear plugs. They didn't

have them. I remember as a drummer

sitting there with two big fat

monitors right there, screaming.

Sorry, did you say something! Sorry, did you say something! Thank

you both for your time. There's no

doubt that you would have a hearing

loss, no doubt whatsoever! And so,

just for the tips, when I want just for the tips, when I want to

say something nasty, I just do

this! Just turn away and lower your

voice a little! Good to have you

both on. We'll be back right this. both on. We'll be back right after Wrrgh! If the wind changes, your face will stay like that. And here's another one.

Tip Top UP Soft & Smooth is plain white bread... (Whispers) ..made with 25% wholegrain flour.

Your kids will eat it up. Mmm!

This program is captioned live. The

travel book said "idyllic tropical

paradise", clearly it was written

before the backpackers moved in

and the pool deck was an all night

disco. The reputation of travel

writers has been hit after one

said that he wrote reviews for

favours and didn't even travel to

some of them. Frances Linzee Gordon

has a well-earned reputation as one

of the best travel writers in the

world. She's been writing 'Lonely

Planet' guides for more than a

decade, notching up a handful of

arrests and thousands of flee bites

and something like 53 marriage

proposals and countless dodgy

meals. Shep joins us to explain

where the fun part kicks in. Let's

start at the beginning because there

are were claims from one guy who

wrote for 'Lonely Planet' that he

didn't go to half of the places and

then took bribes. From your

experience, how likely is that?

It's an experience that indon't

recognise at all as a recognise at all as a 'Lonely

Planet' author and nor do any of my

colleagues. Our reaction was one of

surprise, because it is a difficult

thing to do, to make up information.

I sat down and tried it myself, and

it's hard work trying to make up a

destination or make up a hotel's

information. So it is also - I

don't know any other product really

in the world which is so road

tested by people. You're not just

talking about an editor going

through your copy, it is tens of

thousands, possibly hundreds of

thousands of travellers who are

visiting the hotels that you recommended. Visiting the

restaurants, eating at the restaurants so you get tremendous

feed back, and if there's anything

wrong with the review, you hear

about it. That's the point with the

'Lonely Planet' as well, it is

totally information based, isn't

it? It is. There's not much scope

for embellishment for the real

writer to come in there? Exactly

right. It is exactly that. I

remember my first assignment in

Morocco, I think I started up

looking at 40 hotels in a single

day, and I was ready to resign day, and I was ready to resign at

the end of the day, because it was

just collecting huge amounts of

information and we really do visit

all of the hotels that we recommend

and awful the restaurants and it is

hard work, tremendously hard work.

Given 'Lonely Planet''s

extraordinary reputation, I would

imagine that there is a lot of

pressure on you, particularly from

hotiers realising that a good

write-up will get them incredible

publicity around the world for free,

so I imagine there must be a lot of

pressure on you from them? Exactly

right. It makes or breaks peoples'

fortunes in some regard, and I

totally understand that they want

to be included, but I have even

been offered large bribes. been offered large bribes. I

remember in certain countries,

perhaps I shouldn't mention, in

order to be included in the book,

and of course you can't possibly

accept those. So there is a

tremendous amount of pressure and I

have on occasion done all of my

research at the dead of night just

to avoid the hotel owners running

after me in the street. How do you

approach it? In a day-to-day sense,

are you writing the copy that goes

into the book as you are there or

just making yourself notes and

writing it up later on? What is

your process? It is really up to

the individual author how they work.

Personally, when I'm in a country,

I prefer to spend as much time as I

possibly can doing as much research

as I can. So, instead of spending

precious hours in a hotel typing

things up, I will be out from dawn

until midnight, 1:00 or 2:00 in the

morning, because it is not just

hotels and restaurants, it is clubs

and bars and talking to people and

getting to know the country. So I

tend to go back home and madly

write things up. I'm talking

18-hour days here when you get back

to meet a deadline. You wouldn't

want to be laying on some of want to be laying on some of the

beds and writing the notes. I was

reading a dreadful story about you

getting thousands of flee bites. It

is an occupational hazard. You end

up travelling to remote places and

sometimes there are only a few

hotels where you can stay.

Sometimes they're full of flees,

so... the best thing to do is just

get out as fast as you can. Sleep

on the road! It must be very

difficult for yourself, for 'Lon difficult for yourself, for 'Lonely

Planet' authors because the 'Lonely

Planet' guides are so incredibly

popular, they are everywhere.

Everywhere I ever travelled, there

were thousands of backpackers there

with the 'Lonely Planet' guide with the 'Lonely Planet' guide in their backpack.

Win means that between the time you

recommended it and the time the

hordes have hit, so you must need

to get your information in and

published really, really quickly. That's the thing, as soon as you

walk out of a town, people make

changes and decide to change the

curtains or the menu or decide that

they don't want to be in hotels any

longer, so the minute you walk out

of that town things begin to change.

So, you have to get the information

out to the publisher as far as as

fast as you can, and I understand

that the 'Lonely Planet' has one of

the fastest in the publishing

industry. You're under tremendous

pressure, both on the road when

researching a destination and when

you get back to meet the deadline.

Do you ever feel like you've ruined

a place? I haven't, I don't believe that that is necessarily as a

result of recommending it. I think

it is the nature of tourism, the

fact that more and more people are

travelling every year. I think it

went up another 20% in the last

five years, and I think if anything,

as a guide book writer, you have

the opportunity to try to soften

that impact by for example,

suggesting ways of travelling in an

eco-friendly way or you know,

little things that you can dorbgs

perhaps recommending other places

to stay in and not necessarily only

this one place on the beach which

can be vulnerable to impact. It's

true to say though that many of the

good stories come from horrendous

experiences and I want to hear the

horrendous experiences. The worst

are the best! Well, the great thing

is, even if things go horribly

wrong, even if you're in danger,

even if up wonder whether you'll

ever get home, it does make a great

story when you come back. And that

has happened to you? It has, and I

think it happens to most travellers,

the nature that even ventually

something will go wrong. What is it

like being trapped on the Nile, tell

us the story? I was invited on a

white water rafting trip, a way of

seeing a very remote area of the

country I was writing about and it

all went very well and we carried

on down the river until we arrived

at the departure point and

discovered this thr were no cars

waiting for us, no roads and they

were washed away and we had to

battle for survival. Even fishing,

my fishing skills had to improve

fast, and even then, we seemed to

sort of have no luck after a while,

so it was getting pretty fraught by

the end of it. Eventually we had to

cary on down the river to try to

find a camp somewhere downstream

and get out that way and they

eventually flew in a military plane eventually flew in a military plane

to pick us up. We were missing over

a month by that stage. Fascinating

for us, but not so good obviously

for the families. Because in the

meantime, no-one knows what is

going to happen. Needless to say,

that was not recommended. Possibly

not that particular company, but it

is a beautiful area. That's the

point, that there is an

extraordinary story, one that you

could embellish. Writers don't

embellish. But then, the 'Lonely

Planet' guide is about the facts,

isn't it. So, do you miss that side

of writing? I think 'Lonely

Planet' is very much more than

facts. I believe passionately that

travellers are a force for good, not

just for the traveller but potentially for the host country,

and if you can bring the two

together, I think it is a great

thing, and it does - I hate to roll

out all of the stereotypes, but it

definitely broadens the mind and

makes you, just opens your mind to

things. So, a good guide book in my

opinion is much more than just a

list of cheap hotels and

restaurants. It is all about

understanding the country and

getting the best out of it and

understanding its culture. Getting

in touch with the people. All of

that. So, the information is only that. So, the information is only the beginning. Of course, Saudi

Arabia, I was reading about your

travels there. You've done amazing

tribs in Saudi Arabia, which I

would have thought was that no-no

for a woman on their own. A

question I'm asked, aren't you ever

afraid as a woman? And I passionately believe that women

should feel that they can travel

anywhere their male friends or

partners or colleagues can, and in

fact, I think you have advantages

over men. Up won't like to hear

this David. I know what you're

going to say. There are so many

occasions where I have anticipate

been granted interviews or visa

just because I'm a woman.

Particularly in the Middle East.

Yes. You just bat your eyes! Yes.

And I think it is also pity, people

see a lone woman and they feel

sorry for her, for whatever reason

they will engage you in

conversation and try to look after

you and invite you to do things.

Let you do things that perhaps they

wouldn't permit other travellers to

do. I read something amazing that

you discovered a social more in

Saudi Arabia which meant that men

had to help you. That's right. What

was that all about? The great

secret to travel I think, good

travel is to get a good guide. I

had a very good guide, and very

early on, he whispered in my ear,

I'm going to tell you a secret. "if

you ask for help, we as Saudi men

can't decline this offer". That's a

great line! I became this spoilt

princess, stropy princess who would

storm into peoples' offices and say,

I want this, and this and this now.

And it worked and policemen would

back off. We had a fantastic time.

It was like a little hurricane

whizzing our way through. I love

that. You are regarded as - you've

written a lot about the Middle East

and you're regarded as being very

knowledgeable, particularly in

terms of women travelling in the

areas. But, one of the most

mysterious countries in the Middle

East is Yemen. You went into Yemen.

What is that like? Fascinating,

beautiful landscapes, incredible architecture. Beautiful landscapes which is extraordinary for the

Middle East, because generally Middle East, because generally it

is gravel. And a river. The gulf

area is certainly largely dels

earth, but in the south, there's

quite a lot of mountains and

spectacular villages perched on the

top of a mountain range. There's

obviously the seas so they have

lovely beaches and great food,

lovely seafood and charming people.

I've rarely laughed so much as I

have in Yemen. They don't care who

you are, they just constantly laugh

with you. So, a safe place to

travel? You would recommend it as a

safe place to travel? It is

traditionally considered unsafe.

They've had problems with kidnapping

but even then, apparently the

hostages got treated extremely well,

such that one came back to visit

his captors and they his captors and they weren't

pleased to see him because they had

killed the village's sheep to feed

him. They weren't that pleased. Do

you need the language? You have the

benefit of language behind you? As

a journalist, I believe that you

write a better book if you speak

the language, I believe that which

is why I always make an effort to

learn the language. Even as a

traveller, if you make an effort to

learn three words, "hello, goodbye

and thank you", it will transform

your trip and that's never more

true than in the Middle East where

they appreciate any effort. And it

just will give you that access to

people and access to vin itations

and things. It's very rewarding.

Hello, goodbye, thank you and where

is the hospital! And I would like

two bolts of red wine please. It is

great to meet you. Thank you so

much for your time. Continue the work.

In France they give it a fancy name

and sell it in a tin. Arianne

Spratt has more class. Home made casoulet with snags from

This program is captioned live.

Casoule, it is one of the oldest

dishes in France and one of the

most affordable. Good morning. Good

morning. That's significant. He's

over there too! When you started

talking immediately, I forgot.

We're talking budgets this week.

That's right, and if we were

making the true French version of

casoulet. It comes in a tin. It

does in the supermarket. And you're

done. Rather less glamorous. They

buy it in the supermarket like we

buy baked beans. You don't want

your sausage from a tin though, do

you? Not really. But a typical

frefrpbl one would have duck and

goose and maybe some roast meat.

But this, this is so Australian, it

is sort of a cross between casoulet

and curried snags. It has the

beautiful aromatic vegetables and

beans and sausages. I read in the

recipe that you boil the sausages

first? I do. Why do you do that?

I'll get Kim to start chopping here.

The reason I boil them is because

it gets rid of the fat. You'll find

if you boil your sausages like that

and do them in a gentle simer. If

you then left them in the saucepan

and let it cool, you would be

amazed by the amount of fat that is

at the top. And obviously, if you

have... sorry Kim, can I have the

sausages chopped. Oh, the sausages

chopped. How big? Just chunks. Maybe

a little smaller. Bite size pieces.

Boiling sausages and putting them in

the pan. So, if you use the best

quality sausage you can afford and

it is interesting to note, when it is interesting to note, when we

were doing the prices, the sausages

are two thirds of the price of the

dish. Vegetables, while they've

really increased in price due to

the drought, they're still way

cheaper than meat. And I'm

noticing that you're bulking it out

with beans and things. Half the

stuff we used yesterday. Yes, and

that's what reduces the cost. We've

got a little weekly planner here. We

have, and this is one that Dave

made and it is a really good idea.

I think it is kind of novel. You

could sit the family down when you

have a few minutes and everyone can

put their favourite meal in or

favourite. What is chix pie. I know,

low fat pastry, vegetarian. No,

chicken! Why would you do that, be

a breatharian! What is that? They

just breathe. They allegedly live

on air. It is a great load of

codswallop. I'm going to put curry

in, but if you don't want to put it

in, put in some tomato paste. We

used tomato paste yesterday so used tomato paste yesterday so we

could use that. I put in curry when

I make a big heavy beef and

vegetable soup, I put in curry just

to add a little bit of kick.

There's no spice, it's not hot as

such. Into this is the aromatics,

celery and onion and carrot. And

then you would fry all of that up

until it is a bit soft ir, and then

add the rest of the veggies. So you

put the pumpkin and potato in. I

forgot to peel my potato. That's

actually Swede. You can use

whatever vegetables you like and it

really flesh it out. At what point

do you put the liquid? In? In a

moment. I'm putting in pumpkin.

There's the problem. Well, leave it

out. But do you know why I love it

and the potato which I've forgotten

to peel, the pumpkin and the potato

melt into the sauce and thicken it

so you don't need to thicken it

with anything else. Do you want me

to cut this up? I do. And I will

throw in the sausages. We have two

sorts of sausages, an Italian one

on pt right which has got fennel

and chilli and stuff and then just

a plain pork sausage. And we

a plain pork sausage. And we will

be very careful with the fingers

because Kim is hot with the knife.

Oh, come on. So, we're suggesting

that you get the kids involved and

they put up their favourite meal.

And it is actually an economics

lesson as well, you can see what

you're spending.

you're spending. Incidental

education. We added, we hypothetically added up all of the

dinners for this week that we will

do and then add divided it by the

amount of people that would be

eating it. 42 people came out eating it. 42 people came out to

about $ 5 per person. Think how

much you can save by planning and

instead of throwing out leftover

vegetables. That's right and you

plan ahead and use the vegetables

that we used yesterday. So now,

this is where you add the liquid.

So, that's just chicken stock. So,

that just goes in like that, and

that just goes in like that, and we

would throw the white beans in as

well. Depending on the sausage you

use, would you change the stock? So,

if you had chicken sausages would

you use chicken? I'm using chicken

stock. For sure, or use vegetable

stock if you wanted to. So, before

you throw that in here, we're going

to cut to the chase and it is going

to go into this one, this is the

one that I've prepared. Wow,

that's a lot of parsley, I wasn't

anticipating that much. Sausage

and parsley casserole. I think this

think it was a little excessive

when you asked me to cut it. I also

put in green beans at the end so

they stay crunchy and keep they stay crunchy and keep their

colour. So, for future reference,

that is probably too much parsley.

I did what I was told. You know,

mine like anything green. She's

started picking out eggplant. started picking out eggplant. Any

good 3-year-old should be eating

eggplant. One of my girlfriend's

children, ep won't, he's only 2.5,

but he won't eat anything with a different texture at the same time.

He has to have one texture. So if

there's a dish with you know

pumpkin and potato, or actually

something more dramatic. Beans and

pumpkin, he spits it all out. How

old is that? 2.5. That's not too

early to be anally retentive. What

are you putting this on? Pasta. This

I my dad's favourite meal. That's

not one serve, is it? No. Well, I

could eat it, I'm going out the

back now. David obviously has

health issues because if you have

only one spoon and you're eating it

off the soon. You can put it in the

centre of the table. The other

thing in terms of budgeting and

economics, you can turn it into,

not a competition, because we don't

want the kids to be like that.

Misery. Or freaky. You could -

running out of pocket money and

whoever comes up with the best or

the most economic meal could gettal

gold star. Good idea. But you know

what and we'll real read some of

the e-mails. We've had lots of

e-mails and people talking about

the poverty line in Australia, and

lots of e-mails from people who are

technically living below this so

this is a really important segment.

If you would like the recipe for

sausage casoulet, you can download

all of the details from the website

and we'll be back after this. One thing we can all agree on is that Christmas can get expensive, and just when you think you can relax, those dreaded bills arrive in the new year. Well, Kate from Chrisco joins us with a way to potentially make Christmas so much more affordable. Hi, Kate. Hi, Marianne. We all know Christmas shopping can be stressful, can't it? Not only that, it does put a strain on your finances. Also, walking around those shopping centres, they're so crowded, especially if you've got kids with you - it's enough to drive anyone crazy, isn't it? We all know prices are going sky-high these days - petrol, food, interest rates, who knows where they'll end up by Christmas time? Chrisco has a solution to make it easier to give your family a wonderful Christmas. Well, can't wait to hear about that. But first Kate, tell us how Chrisco actually works? It's really easy with Chrisco. It's just like lay-by, but even easier -

you shop from the convenience of your home. Ring for the free toys and gifts catalogue, choose your toys and gifts, order by mail, over the phone or online. Then you make small, weekly payments towards your purchases. You never have to visit the shops, and Chrisco prices are fixed for the year so you never have to worry about those prices sneaking up on you. Your toys and gifts arrive in time for Christmas,

everything is paid for, leaving you free to relax and enjoy your Christmas.

It really does sound simple. It really is. Is all you need to do is phone for the free catalogue, where you'll find you can choose from over 300 toys and gifts. There really is something for the whole family, and it's all delivered straight to your door. To get a copy of the free catalogue, phone the number at the bottom of your screen, or visit the website. Flicking through, Kate, there does seem to be a lot of the really popularity brands in here. That's right - there are! Chrisco toys and gifts offer a lot of well-known and loved brands like 'Hannah Montana', Bratz, WWE, Dora the Explorer, Playboy, and even NRL and AFL supporter gear. Can you give us an example of how much the toys and gifts cost? Chrisco really makes Christmas affordable. We've got gifts from less than $1 a week. Take a look at some of the great toys and gifts you can get,

There are some really great brands, including this 'High School Musical' game. and the boys are going to love these Holden quilt sets. There's the Playboy bedding and accessories and they are just so hot right now, and start at just $1.25 a week. Make sure you get your order in early to take advantage of the small weekly payments. And with small weekly payments it sounds so much easier to budget and plan ahead for Christmas. With lay-by, we're all used to having to go into the shops to pay off the gifts. With Chrisco, you can order from home, and the regular payments are barely noticeable.

It all gets delivered to your door - it couldn't be easier. And remember - the earlier you order, the smaller your weekly payments. If you want to start planning for a magical, stress-free Christmas, call right now for a free toys and gifts catalogue. Chrisco really seems to be the smart way to get organised and ready for Chrissy. They just make it so easy

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There are lots of bonus offers in the catalogue, actually, but the one I'm going to tell you about today is our early-bird offer. Get your order in by May 31,

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We were talking about the poverty

line and pensioners struggling,

well, actually sing pensioners

getting below the poverty line on

the pension and we've been

inundated with e-mails. Not just

from pensioners, from students and

single mums who are doing it tough.

Here's one, "talking about the

pensioners. My 67-year-old nana is

a pensioner and finds it so hard to

pay for something if it breaks or

needs replacing. A lot of things are run down because she doesn't

have the money to fix them. She

wears glasses and her pair were so

old she had glue saving them

unless she could save up $20 a

fortnight to get a new pair. Now

she's remortgaged the home. It

took my grandfather 50 years to pay

auft house and now she runs the

risk of losing it. Why can't we

take better care for the people who

looked after our generation". Why

you're not a working family just

because you're an older working

family. We'll read some out. This

is from Michelle "I was listening

to the show this morning about

single parents payment. I receive

$280 a week, my rent is $205. I

struggle to afford the food my

children want and also for school

needs. I can barely put petrol in

the car, you know let alone all of

the extras like school camps. Where

does the money come from". She's

got $75 a week to rent. She says,

"I'd love to return to work but it

is catch 22 because I would have to

pay for childcare. I receive child

support which is $29 per month.

These people are extraordinary. How

you budget on $75 a a week is extraordinary. These people should

be in Treasury. We'll bring you the

This program is captioned live. Hot

on the high heels of Australian

fashion week, nai naidnaid has recreated some runway looks

recreated some runway looks to

highlight the trends we'll see for

summer. Can you pick you up on a

comment that you made. You said

that you thought that this year's

Australian Fashion Week had finally

grown up. It's finally growing up.

It's been around for 13 years and

it had its own trials and

tribulations and dramas for the

past 13 years, but this year, I

have to say, it is only an industry

event so these are the looks you'll

be seeing come spring and summer,

come September onwards. Who goes to

them? Buyers? Buyer and media so we

know what is going to come so we

can write the trend reports and do

the shoots and all of that. Why has

it grown up? Better organised?

Better talent. Most of the time in

the past, students have just

graduated from university and

done the show immediately and not

done their time, you know apresent

isships and working in the industry,

so now the new designers are done

good time and most of them have

gone overseas and worked for other

labels and come back, so it is more

polished. But, it is not just new

designers? No, the old designers,

people like Lisa Ho has done people like Lisa Ho has done her

best collection to date. Commands

like Camilla and Mark for once have

done a whole collection that gives

them credit. Even people like Wayne

Cooper have done all of the top

trends from overseas. At the end of

the day, it is a business. Exactly,

we're here to make money. Let's

have a look because you've

recreated them. I've been more

user friendly. This is Jason

Brunston who I thought did an andly

immaculate collection, very Godess.

Jason Brunston has taken off. So,

if we take off the jacket. This is

a jacket, I thought it was a dress.

And the beautiful dress inside.

That's heaveny. You can't buy the dresses but you can buy the shoes

from Miss Louise. They're great

shoes. It is nice to see designers

who actually dress for women, not

party girls. That's very elegant.

From what I know, it looks

sophisticated and well designed.

Exactly. And the next designer,

Ashley is wearing Anon by Ben Smith.

I met Ben when he was here for the

Logies, he does amazing things

with fabric. This is just a silk

dress, just beautiful. Someone

backstage was just saying, oh my

gosh, it has this all-Hollywood

glamour. That's right, and Ben had

experience in New York for the last

couple of years and it really shows.

It's just a beautiful dress and

well priced. And then a lot of the

new guard. Like like Therese Roston

and she's wearing a Linda Jackson

reissue print of the Warratah. She

was a huge designer in the '80s and

it is nice to see the new God

respecting the old God and florals

will be huge again. But people who

are not big on florals, her dress -

the dull floral is big. Big

flowers? I'm not very much into

prints but it is a personal taste.

There's a subtle pattern on the

dress as well. That's right, so if

you're into florals, that is the

way. The thing is, go for dresses

like what Ben Smith has worn,

Ashley has worn Ben Smith or something very sophisticated like

Jason Brunston. Soft punk is also a

look we'll be seeing. Soft punk? I

like this, that is a leather gold dress, metallic

golden dress.

Illionaire! Yes. And the whole show

was called the Last Supper, so

instead of the crown of thorns, it

is the crown of roses. That looks

great. Nice to see such energy. You

could wear that at the last supper

because it would wash off. Where

would you wear that? I mean for the

younger crowd, you know for a good

function. I mean, you don't have to

dress it exactly. We have to dress it exactly. We have to keep

in mind, in the show, it is all to

give impact, so the show looks are

a bit more interesting. Even a bit more interesting. Even the

hair, like Mark Thompson from

Loreal who has done 27 shows has

taken looks from there and watered

it down, and the make-up of Bobbi Brown, these are not the show

make-up, so they've watered it down

to make it more user friendly. And

then for guys, we've got James

Cameron. All the men in Australia

should go and buy this label,

because it is more English

inspired, so more Saville Row

inspired rather than European.

Very dandy and think Great Gatsby.

So skinny pants too for boys? Yeah.

For the younger boy. But, it comes

with suit pants. Me being cheeky,

I've got it with the skinny. I'm

not sure that I could wear those.

Yeah, of course you can. They look

cute. And Anna Thomas, she does

some of the best tailoring, the

pants are to die for. And even

notice the clothes I've picked up,

also they're all not for the

younger set, so more established

women can wear. More established

women? Yes, I like that. I'm not an

established woman, I'm a youthful

spunk. More established woman, it's

a nicer way of saying it so women

can actually wear it and the clothes are not just designed for

girls. I love that outfit, that is

nice. I love the clothes that you

picked, they're all really classy

and not showing too much. and not showing too much. That's

right. And we always do see in the

glossy magazines, the girls who are

half dressed most of the time but

the designers are actually doing

some really nice stuff and some

really good quality stuff and the

talent that we have is growing. On

that note, this guy, Diorn Lee,

Sophie is wearing his outfit. Etch

his name is memory, he

his name is memory, he anticipates

only 22 years old. I know it is a

black mini dress and it looks like

nothing. If you go close, you'll

see the detail on it is just

amazing. This guy is to really

watch out for. He's someone that

you really need to keep your eye on.

Where does he come from? He's a NSW

boy, a Sydney boifplt he's done his

course from Sydney TAFE and he's

just, the talent is just really,

really good. What is it about

Australian designers at the Australian designers at the moment?

We have some really well established, Ben Smith and Tony

Matichevski and beautiful designer

and the whole wave of new

youngsters. Absolutely, and the

young dep signers actually want to

go and work for other people. In

the past, you have people who just

put two pins together or did a T

shirt and they're like, oh my gosh,

I'm a dep signer. A designer is

someone who knows form and fit and

learn about fabrics. You're not

afraid of sweeping the floor and

learning to cut that's what a dep

signer is. Stkpwhrfrplts just quickly, when will these be in the

stores All of these will be in the

store come September. So you can't

buy them right now. But you can buy

the shoes! There we go. Thank you,

Dave. Fantastic. And thank you all

for your time. And we'll be back after this. We all know fresh is best, and imagine being able to have fresh herbs, veges, flowers, whenever you need them. And you don't even need a backyard to do it. Here on 9am we have something new - and Dennis, I believe this is the world's first indoor smart garden? That's right, Marianne, this is Aero Garden. It's been a huge hit internationally, and this is something we can all use. A super-productive indoor garden that lets you grow herbs, lettuce, tomato, chillis, flowers, in fact all sorts of things faster than you can imagine, indoors all year round. No