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(generated from captions) This program is captioned live. talk TV program for the ACT as well Welcome to State Focus, our weekly Wales. Hello its Guy Sweeting. Canberra research into Generation Y Lots on today's program including generations: Homo habilis and Homo and separately two far gone erectus. on housing areas in Wollongong and Comparing the interest rate impact challenged Foreign minister the ACT A Narrabundah student who with the brilliant off beat musical Alexander Downer And some fun to end Erindale next month. comedy The Producers coming to But first up; he got the gig. Andy Hughes had long been wanting to Interim ACT Chief Police officer Nations and while doing so has been take up a position with the United Canberra after the legacy of Audrey running the community policing in Fagan's leadership. explain his next exciting role. Commissioner Hughes joins us to Welcome again to State Focus. Thanks very much Guy. ago talking about things at home in Alright we had you on a few weeks different, going to New York tell me the ACT but now this is totally about that. advisor to the UN and also director Yeah it's a position of police operation so it's quite a big job. of the police division of the piece other things you've done in the Alright how might that differ from past? because it is very much and Well it's got some connections international experience over the international role, I've had drawing on my experience in ACT as course of many years and I'll be aswell because there's common much as other parts of my career threads throughout policing. I suppose due to security reasons Without going into too much detail police force does the UN have? and what have you but how much of a up very rapidly because primarily Well at the moment they're building hopefully by the end of the year in Dafur and they'll have 6,500 police total to about 15,500 and I Dafur alone which will bring the even swell to 17,500 so it's quite understand early next year it may police have around the world. a large footprint that the UN differ from just everyday walking up And how does a UN police officer and down the beat policeman? it's obviously to do with UN peace Well there are similarities but troops and then there's police and operations the blue berets, there's Dafur for example 19,000 troops, then there's civilian staff in support staff and together they 6,000 police and 5,000 civilian together with the African union make up the UN's mission into Dafur which is a hybrid mission. through to get a job like this, it's And it's a process to work your way sort of consultative over some time not one you really apply for it's isn't it. member countries are approached by Yeah that's right actually the invited to submit a nomination to the UN headquarters in New York and was approached, the commissioner be considered for the position, I be interested in the position, I contacted me and asked if I would it's well known amongst police was well familiar with it because the guy who'd bee doing it before circles, this particular job and I looked a little bit more into it me and American he was retiring so move so my name went forward and and decided that it would be a good was interview in New York back in amongst many other countries and I deliberation my name has come out March and after obviously some about that. the other end so I'm pretty happy Had you been to New York before? visits and one being the interview Yeah a couple of times only on the UN as is happened when I was but I'd been previously to visit called through there because the commissioner of police in Fiji we police have a considerable for Fiji police similar to Australia their size presence in UN missions. get back to Canberra very often? Will you miss Canberra, will you boys here studying, one at ANU and Oh look I've still got a couple of strong connections to Canberra. one at ADFA so we've still got very wish you all the best in your new Alright so we'll miss you but we venture. Thanks very much Guy. who's off to New York to work with Interim ACT Police Chief Andy Hughes, the United Nations in a few weeks. Canberra's involvement in a Still ahead; digging up the dirt on evolution theory. discovery which changes part of the rise to 6 and a half percent. But now to: the latest interest rate buyers in both the ACT and region What will be the impact on home if the federal government doubled and the Illawarra and would it help to 14 thousand dollars. it's first home owners grant from 7 Wellsmore from the Real Estate To find out we're joined by Michael Stewart from the Illawarra Real Institute of the ACT and Leigh Estate Institute. Welcome both to State Focus. Michael the situation in the ACT at First of all we'll go to you people who have mortgages? the moment, how difficult is it for the lack of supply of land, so we The biggest problem we have is the houses than there are houses have more people wanting to buy available for people. available or there is land Illawarra? Okay Leigh is it the same in the different we've seen the market Well Wollongong is a little bit years, our first home buyers change over the last couple of coping the brunt of the interest defiantly are the ones that are welcome down here in the Illawarra. rate rise and definitely it wasn't different from what it was before or Michael is it going to be any just exacerbate it? ACT is that it will put more people I think the problem we have in the and while we still have this lack into the market who are able to buy more pressure on prices, it's a of supply that then creates a bit demand and that'll increase demand very simply rule of supply and supply @ and we and we as yet do not have enough Leigh do you agree with that? Are things going to get worse? Where are we headed? little bit in the Illawarra over Well I think we've defied gravity a seen a shift from our property the last couple of years, we have tourism here in the Illawarra also market to possibly relying on our university and also our coal mines our BHP area around the harbour the off the real estate market and have I think taken alot of pressure are still quite good in Wollongong, added alot to our economy so things alot of people coming into our there's a lot of activity there's buyers they're the ones that are market but as I said our first home extra a week that they're going to looking at the 10 or 15 dollars still going to buy houses, that's have to find and I think they're dream home, they may just have to not going to stop them buying their move to a different suburb, maybe change their expectations slightly, just a little bit cheaper in the not the ideal suburb, one that's Illawarra region. headed for a direction where getting Michael is it becoming - are we people because it's becoming that a house is just going to be for rich pricy do you think? Especially in the Canberra area? I think that the Government is doing some work now that will in fact improve the situation, the problem is it's just the time that it takes, we've been working with the Government and also with their affordability scheme that they announced earlier in the year and with the people who are running that and we're looking down the track that there will be more supply available but we're looking at the short term. It's going to take 18 months to 2 years till we see that supply filtering into the market in terms of meeting the demand @ f So I believe that we've been very critical of the local Government, I have to now commend them for the actions that they have taken but it's just going to have to take time before we actually have the effect of those new policies will actually come into the market place and begin to diminish the pressure that we have at the present time. Leigh do you think it's a good Idea to increase the first home owners grant form 7,000 to 14,000 dollars? I think as long as it doesn't create a frenzy of people buying houses because that just pushed prices up, I think one of the things that need to be done is that interest rates really need to be stabilised - I mean the hint is that they're looking at possibly another increase towards the end of the year, I think that really needs to be looked at seriously, the young people are the people that are affected mostly, our second home or third home buyers, fourth home buyers in Wollongong is very strong and still got plenty of people at our open houses, plenty of people out there buying property especially our beachfront properties, our beachfront properties down here have probably continued to grow while most of the state is actually decreased so really it needs to be done carefully but I think interest rates is the key and we really need to stabilise those. Gentlemen we're all out of time so thankyou for coming in today. You're welcome. Thanks Guy. Michael Wellsmore from the Real Estate Institute of the ACT and Leigh Stewart from the Illawarra Real Estate Institute. And what do you think of the housing market where you live? Will an interest rate rise make paying your mortgage much harder and should it be up to governments to ease the housing property market? Have your say at our mytalk website. Follow the links. You can also email us. Details again at the end of the program. Coming up next: new Canberra research on Generation Y. Back shortly. In Running Stream, you're watching State Focus. Still ahead; the Canberra connection to research which blows evolution theories out of the water. But now to separate research in Canberra on Generation Y and their spending habits. And interestingly the research has found among alot of fascinating facts, that Gen Y is actually a fairly conservative bunch with half of them still living at home and are staying there longer compared with Generation X. Rebecca Cassells is not only involved in the research at Canberra University but just happens to also be in Generation Y herself. Welcome to State Focus Rebecca. Thankyou it's a pleasure to be here. Tell me about the research that you've been doing, what's been involved? Well we've looked at generation Y so those people currently aged between 16 and 31 years so they were born in 1976 to about 1991 and we've looked at them and we've looked at as you said their spending habits, where they're living, what they're doing in their compared them with generation X at the same age, about 15 years ago. differences mentioned there that generation Y have been living at home longer than generation X did, from what I can recall generation X were pretty much keen to leave home as soon as possible. Yeah well that is on of the big findings of this report is that particularly those in their late 20s so 25 to 29 they tend to stay at home alot longer than generation X was so we've seen an increase of about 7% so there was about 12% of 25 to 29 year olds living at home with mum and dad back in 1989, now that's increased to about 19%. Okay and the spending habits, they're not spending too much? Well no and that is one of the myths I think surrounding Okay and the spending habits, they're not spending too much? Well no and that is one of the myths I think surrounding generation Y is that they are I think alot of people believe that they're quite frivolous with their money.. they're q Racking up the credit card bills... ...Yeah you know lots of debt, they want everything now and sort of willing to go into debt to do this, now we did find that they're not spending quite very different proportions to what generation X was spending on things like recreation and personal care but we did find that they were actually spending a higher proportion of their expenditure was going towards housing costs and transport, a reflection of the current housing market and transport costs. I suppose that's everybody to a degree if they're still in that situation and I guess predominately generation Y is in that situation more than the other generations I suppose. Well yeah I think the housing costs are reflected in the first home buyers and the higher rental costs that they're currently experiencing but alot of them have just entered the housing market. Yeah okay and what are some other findings that you've found? Well alot of the interesting findings was to do with generation Y women and we've found that they're more educated, better educated then generation Y men and generation X women at the same age and we've also found that they're better employed then generation Y men and generation X women at the same age so for instance we found 27% of them are employed as professionals and associate professionals where as only 20% of generation Y men are employed in that capacity but unfortunately we did find that they're earning on average less in the same broad occupational group than generation Y men and working the same hours and we also found that they're coming in lower with assets so they've got around 25,000 dollars less in assets then generation Y men less in a Yeah okay and the research is conducted out of the university of Canberra where you're at and you're in a special part of the university. Tell me about that. I work for a place called NCSEM which stands for the National Centre for Social and Economic Modelling and we're specialists in social and economic modelling and we produce quite alot of research a very diverse range of research and this is one of our collaborative researches with AMP, we produce these reports about 3 time a year. Alright we look forward to your next on, thanks for coming in today. Thankyou. Rebecca Cassells from the University of Canberra. Still ahead; locals involved in the Canberra version of the brilliant Mel Brooks musical comedy The Producers coming to Erindale Theatre next month. But now to a unique joint Australia and Korea program involving students from Narrabundah College. We're joined by Alex Meekin who is one of the students along with David Arnold who's in charge of educational programs at the National Museum. Both have been receiving a little unexpected media attention recently after Foreign minister Alexander Downer appeared on a student TV program in which they were both involved. Mate Mate can I just say to you can I just say to you, I'm trying to answer her question okay and you are trying to make party political points are tryin To explain, both Alex and David join us now. Welcome to State Focus. Thankyou. Thanks Guy. First of all Alex tell me what happened with Alexander Downer in your program that you're involved with. Oh well we wrote some questions concerning energy, that as the sort of main these of the forum and I guess we got stuck into it a little bit bringing up the issue of climate sceptics within the Federal Government and sort of asking him wether it was appropriate and I guess it sort of rattled him a little bit and he got a little bit toe-ey by the end of our interview. He was not having a good day it seems. No I don't think he was. Alexander Downer being is juts part of - a small part of this particular TV program which is part of an educational program that you run there at the National Museum. Tell me a little bit abut that. Sure Guy, Talkback classroom has been running since 2001 at the national museum, it's called a voice for the voters and it's a program that encourages young people around 16/17 years of age right around the country to talk with decision makers and the museum is involved with it because it give an opportunity for young people to be interested in the shaping of the nations history if you like, the shaping of current events which of course will become the history of tomorrow so it's a great program it's a program that engages teenagers and I think that the sample of the Alexander Downer interview we had recently is a good example of how it works in a very strong forthright way. Okay Helix have you - do all students get to do just one go of the program or do you have a couple of go's? No unfortunately just one. Okay does this mean you might pursue politics or journalism of some for with the hard hitting questions? Well I don't know I guess it depends on the future see what that brings depends on Okay alright and David just the television program is just the one aspect of it and you've brought some Korean students into it aswell so it's a joint 2 country thing, just explain a little how that works. Sure well we've actually started the Korea project a couple of years ago and last year in 2006 along with the Australia Korea foundation it's actually part of DFAT Alexander Downers department, we got some funding along with other sources to take 2 Australia students to Korea and we also have an interest of a broadcaster in Korea so as a result of that program we made a program about Korean reunification and Australa's interest in that whole process or potential reunification so that was a fantastic start, there was a documentary made that was put on Korean television on EBS and then this year we again received a bit of funding so we were able to bring 2 Korean students to Australia to look at the theme of energy and the exciting thing was that we had 3 Korean film crew come with EBS film crew come back to Australia this time and they followed the students as they travelled throughout Queensland and the Northern Territory investigating the energy issue and then arriving back in Canberra for our forum with the foreign minister. So it was a fantastic educational experience for everyone. Well all the best for the future Alex and thanks for coming in David to explain that particular program and hope it does well. Thankyou. Thanks very much Guy. Thankyou. Narrabundah College student Alex Meekin and David Arnold from the National Museum of Australia. Next up: we do some digging on Canberra's involvement in a discovery of bones which has put an evolution theory on its head or should that be: skull! Stay with us. From Baradine to Bemboka, this is State Focus. people involved with the bawdy Mel Brooks musical comedy "The Producers" coming to Erindale next month. My next guest may not like me putting this so simplistically, but the experts have long thought homo sapiens, the Latin word for us good ole human beings, evolved from a series of less intelligent more ape like forms known as Homo habilis and Homo erectus. But a recent discovery has now shattered the theory those two different kinds of species existed eons apart and it turns out they may have actually been around at the same time. Geochronologist Ian McDougall has been involved in this research at the Australian National University in Canberra and joins us now. Welcome to State Focus Ian. Thankyou very much. Alright sop the old theories that one of these species evolved from the other over eons but it now turns out due to this discover that they were probably around about both together at the same time? Yes well the evidence until now was that the Homo habilis was the earliest species assigned to homo - self our own species - and the idea was that he gave rise to erectus and in due cause erectus evolved into homos sapiens our own species. So how can this discovery blow that theory out of the water? Well what we've shown in this paper that was published a few days ago was that very good examples of homo habilis have been dated to about 1.44 million years when homo habilis actually appeared on the scene probably 1.9 - 2 million years ago so it lived for a very long time and homo erectus goes back to about 1.9 million years so the evidence is suggesting that habilis and erectus coexisted in this environment in northern Kenya. And of course erectus being more upright I'm assuming that means being around later but they were obviously around at the same time, you'd better tell us of the research underway in Canberra how we're connected locally to this research I guess it's fundamentally you but what have you done at the ANU to be involved with this research? Well my role has essentially been measuring the ages of volcanic horizons that occur interbedded with the normal sand silts and clays where most of the fossils come from, well all the fossils come from and by dating these eruptions we can actually transfer and age into the sedimentary sequence because these eruptions were explosive eruptions, they would have blanketed the landscape, material would have been deposited in the Turcana basin very soon afterwards and within 10s of years and so we're essentially transferring an age of eruption which is what we effectively measure into the sedimentary sequence measu We look forward to hearing of other discoveries that might come up in the future at the ANU. Thanks for joining us today. My pleasure. Thankyou. Ian McDougall who's a Geochronologist at he Australian National University in Canberra. Our thoughts are with former Federal Independent member for Calare Peter Andren who came onto our show last year to talk about the history of television in the Central West, coinciding with the 50th anniversary of television in Australia. He's recently had to end his 11 year political career after being diagnosed with cancer. Peter spent many years prior to politics as a newsreader and editor at CBN8 Orange Midstate Television in the 80's and nineties. We wish him well in his recovery. Mel Brooks is known for his off beat musical comedies and movies and now his hit The Producers is coming to Canberra's Erindale Theatre from September 7 to 22. Joining us today is Canberra performer Jenny Kimmings as Ulla and making it all happen behind the scenes is Michael Moore the president of the Canberra Philharmonic Society. Welcome both to State Focus. Thankyou. Jenny Firstly tell me what attracted you to The Producers? I loved the movie when it was on an my friends have seen the show in New York and London and I love Mel Brooks work and looked like a lot of fun and it had a 6 foot blond I could audition for so it was great. And it's going to be something that you're doing locally in Canberra, is it exciting to be involved in a local production? It's lovely I love Canberra I love doing amateur Canberra theatre and working with Philo and my sister and other friends. We must explain Philo is sort of like the abbreviated version of the Canberra Philharmonic Society. Yeah alot easier to say. Okay Michael you're the president of that what does it involve? Well essentially it's running a theatre company and Philo is really a semi professional company, the actors you see on stage are all amateurs and unpaid but just about everything else including our 16 piece orchestra are all paid professional, so... 16 piece orchestra and a crew and cast I should say of 40, so how don you combine all of those what 56 people all together to make it all happen? Well it's interesting because we spend alot of the time with the actors, we have a rehearsal periods of 3 to 4 months but the orchestra because they're professionals actually only rehearse twice before the show and we all come together in what we call a sitsprobe which is the Sunday before we actually open, the very first time we put the orchestra and the actors together so it doesn't take alot of organising. Ian McClean who is well known to Canberrans is our musical director and he handles the orchestra all on his own basically I just pay them really. And Jenny how do you cope with - it's a fairly longish musical, goes for about 2 hours, is it a fairly physical feat to make it through that? It is but I think you're on such an adrenaline high through all of it it just flies so it's great yeah. And open September 7, there's a fair bit of rehearsal process to get to that point? Yeah we've got a long way to go from now but it's all coming together and everyone is doing what they're doing so it's great. Michael when are the dress rehearsals, how far out does that happen prior to the performance. We run 3 dress rehearsals prior to opening night so we open on Friday, we dress reverse on Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday with the full orchestra so it's an exciting time but it's a very long week for the cast, they rehearse on Sunday when we bump into the theatre, we have a technical rehearsal on the Monday and then 3 dress rehearsals and then a performance on Friday and Saturday so for amateurs who have jobs and things or go to school.. have jo Alot of late nights. ...It's a big big week. But worth it. Is this your first leading role in something like this? For Philo yes it is, it's lovely seeing how it works to do the lead. Well we hope you get a chance to do lots more fun things like that thankyou both for coming in today. Thankyou. Thanks. Jenny Kimmings and Michael Moore from the Canberra Philharmonic Society's production of The Producers on at the Erindale Theatre from September 7 to 22. Before we go, our viewer feedback contact details. You can have your say on our website or email us Also check our mytalk digital TV channel for local information and highlights of State Focus programs. That's as it happened this week. I'm Guy Sweeting. Join us next week for State Focus. Live captions by Southern Cross Ten, Canberra. We apologise for the temporary loss of captions. Normal service will resume as soon as possible.