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(generated from captions) "and the first to show no fear of the giant jungle frogs." "in the face The title of the new chapter is... ..'The Great G'Bubu'. (Laughs affectionately) (Frog croaks) www.redbeemedia.com.au Red Bee Media Australia Supertext Captions by This program is captioned live. year to you all Focus for 2009. and welcome to our very first State and good luck to you if you're still Hope you've had a wonderful holiday, a cool beer around the barbie. in your swimmers and thongs enjoying up for you today with some huge We have a scorcher of a show lined is the greatest gardener of all time. names stopping by, and one of those glamour into "being green". An Australian household name who put about our planet, welcome to State He's adorable and very passionate Focus Mr Don Burke. Who are we waiting for? (LAUGHS) Thank you for that, it's very kind. How you going Burkey? (LAUGHS) bloody early on Sunday morning, Alright, geez I hate getting up this is ridiculous. stay in bed. What are these people, they should getting up at 6 I imagine. (LAUGHS) Well you're used to Absolutely right. Yes. flesh on our couch for our first show for 2009. the gardening guru, the country's Can we talk about you being, I guess, believe it? gardening guru for 25 years. Can you Long time isn't it? Yeah. It's a quarter of a century. with Tony Bennet and he said that I was listening to an interview and the same is true for me. he never worked a day in his life our hobby and having fun and all We're just playing games, living sort of stuff. though, looking at the cover of the Listen you haven't changed a bit edition. first lazy gardener to the latest You look the same. (LAUGHS) hair @ Well no, the other bloke h Well no, the other bloke had black You've got great skin. Oh thank you. Thank you. How did it all start for you? gardening? Did you have any idea about that loved plants and animals and I I was a tragic lonely little kid terrible interruption, a very rude kept my head down at school and thing to inflict on someone, so I love it. used to play plants and animals and to uni, or whatever, there was no The tragedy was when I went to go courses now, course. There's lots of green but virtually none then and rather sad. along the way. Tell us about Tarzan and Jane. interview off with a story about You've got to kick start the Tarzan and Jane. opinion Every garden book is wro Every garden book is wrong. In my Okay. (LAUGHS) so on, they're about people. Gardens were never about plants and Let me give you an example. nursery person and this bloke came I was this dull and ignorant young few ferns and palms and things and in and he said he wanted to buy a garden have you got? I said, alright and what sort of He said, I've got a palm garden. you've got a what This was back This was back in the 70s and I went, (LAUGHS) He said, palm garden. What's that? popped around and go there and He said, come and have a look, so I metres tall, the pool in the middle there's all these palm trees 30 like one of those jungle pools and which was a swimming pool, looked I said to the guy, mate, what do there was a rope hanging there and said, come on. you do here? Oh that's my garden, I the misses, what's the score and he Saturday night, you know, you and the cosies, the Tarzan and Jane looked me and I said, have you got garden saved my marriage @ cossie Oh wonderful. all the gardening books and I did go on to TAFE and so on and everything that I had studied, cos wrong. studied, I thought, that's all life. It's about people. It's about their patch of lawn is. paradise as you've said in the book, sanity. coast or in Orange or in the Snowies, Whether your in Canberra or on the climate change, water restrictions, considering there's drought, there's there's kids, a mortgage, how do you you know, we have busy lives, actually have that? garden in that You're so right and I define a it's not those things. the animals are gonna die. Global warming, we're all gonna die, got no money so we're bloody You've got the recession on, we've starving and loose our jobs anyway. in dreadful situations in Sydney Get out on the roads, particularly and everyone's doing that. come back home for a start, even You need that escape area where you the supermarket, your never quite when you buy your organic vegies in assure you, having checked a lot of sure how organic they are and I can organic at all. them out, they're often not very You can grow organic vegies at home. tasting varieties, you can have They're fresh, you can grown better in, eat in not out and you can grow your meals at home, either out not eat it and when you've got your the most beautiful stuff and just varieties of stuff still wriggling eat them. from the garden onto the plate and gardening? What if your not a green thumb?

difficult. It really, really isn't that that in that book, there's all the I suppose I would like to believe basics you'll ever need to know. men in generations gone by tried to complex to make pretend that everything was really themselves a bit self important. easy and things just basically grow. The truth is, gardening is dead little bit of work in veggie A veggie gardens very easy, a difficult. gardens but you know, it ain't green space Okay, what about the importance of in a city or in the burbs. arboredum or you know, the You know, for example Canberra's gardens of public parks in Bathurst. magnificently maintained you know, planted out city in Australia and Well firstly, Canberra is the best designed into it like Canberra did. no city ever had the green belts design that in. Wally Burley-Griffin, he always did Sydney and they just chucked them And in fact he designed it a lot in away the green bits. no longer exist. Canberra, a lot of the green bits around and it would have been the He had the green belts all the way them over the years between his greenest city on earth but a lot of and now have been lost, but they still got the best planted streets stand up anywhere in the world. the conditions these days. But it's a struggle I guess with you're right, Bathurst has got that rediscovering our roots. glorious park too. I think we're Australia is, we're the only developed, that's still kept much country in the world that is of their bush land in and around the city. pesticides. What's your view, I know you took this issue to the federal government a way back, but say you're a farmer dealing with locusts in Wagga, how do you manage it? That is a real worry. Obviously we need to keep the amount of chemicals we stray on the earth to an absolute minimum. With locusts you've got to get in early before they start flying and control them there. And yes you will need to use chemicals. They're much safer now and I like to think I play a pretty big part in setting up what is now the APVMA with Simon Crean in Canberra and I worked down here for many years with that group to get it working right. A lot of the nasty chemicals are now gone. The ones that we're now using are much more environmentally friendly, but yeah, locusts are one of those problems that will be-devil humanity forever I'm afraid, but equally, think of all the lizards that are living life, oh it's so good for lizards when you get a locust plague, they go yep! from a positive side. There's always a positive side to it. The world is doomed particuarly environmentally unless we immediately get onto the positive side of all of this. environmental groups did a great job of warning us about the problems. They're disasterous group when it comes to looking at the solutions to those problems. We've got to think positive, grab change, throw a saddle on it, hoop and holler and ride it forward for the best outcomes and sometimes it's the least worst outcomes that are the best you can get. If that's the case, then you beauty. I'm happy with that. Let's get the least worst if that's all we can do. I think you need a hat though with the... (LAUGHS) Spurs more like it. I'm sure you've got some in the wardrobe. We're almost out of time. I'm gonna talk to you about the dunny carters next time we have you on. Listen I've got to, I've created a bit of quiz. I've called it Don's Quick Quiz or a Quickie with Don. Oh okay, I'm in. love weeds? Because they can save the world. How important is mulch? Critically important, get it wrong and you ruin the garden. Do you use grey water? Never. Best advice for growing veggies. Learn to love poo. Best compost recipe. around the streets. This is gonna get you. The scientific name for a kangaroo paw. Kangaroo Paw, anigozanthos is the main variety but the floral emblem anagananznoth manguzi, but it's not named after Alby Mangles. Wonderful. Your new years resolution for 2009. To make everything greener and greener and greener with more poo. (LAUGHS) Poo. Sunday morning, people are enjoying breakie. See women are tragic creatures, they don't understand poo, in a balanced world where women really understood, I would use chook poo as a deodorant. (LAUGHS) Here's to your new years resolution Don Burke. Nice to talk to you Peta. Thanks for joining us. Okay, after the break, Australian star of the stage and screen, Noni Hazelhurst, and she's calling all the mums from right across the region, next on State Focus. Welcome back to Welcome back to State Focus. Our next guest is a compelling, award-winning actress and has done it all in the entertainment industry, even throw in a bit of home-renovating. But, nothing beats watching Noni Hazelhurst, Jemima and Big Ted from Playschool, where she was a presenter for 23 years. Noni's also National Ambassador for Barnados and an all-round great mum. Welcome to State Focus Noni. Thank you, I'm glad you haven't got my kids in here to answer that one. (LAUGHS) (LAUGHS) Listen, I've got to say, big fan, huge fan of Play School. Yeah, look it's the job of which I'm most proud I think Peta and the thing about Play School was that it really opened my eyes to what a difficult world we have for young children, for really young children. It's incomprehensible to young children this modern world I think and they're subject to so many different influences. Even, you know, the most well intentioned parents would be hard pressed to contextualise this world that we live in for a small child. Well let's talk about parents, you are here to have chat with us about Barnados mother of the year. We've had some star mums from right across the region. But I've got to say, doesn't every mum deserve an award. (LAUGHS) Well pretty much. I think so. Yeah, and you know working for Barnados as I have for the last four years is the national ambassador for the mother of the year. It's just wonderful, we get to hear so many bad news stories about parents and kids and the world. You know, it's just very inspiring to hear about all these wonderful women who are unsung heroines. You know they're out there in the community, looking after children, going well beyond you know, the normal call of duty and but they don't make great news. You know, if it leads, it leads, being the news philosophy and so you get an imbalanced view until your involved in something like this and you hear all these terrific stories. And what would your, your boys say were special or unique about you? (LAUGHS) Um. Ah, look I think I don't know what they'd say but the thing that I'd try to do that is different from the way my parents were with me, is that I openly apologise when I do things wrong. You know, if I know I've been overly critical or overly harsh or unfair.. over But you're never wrong. Oh yeah, right. But that was my parents you see, my parents were never wrong. And I tell them, look I don't have a manual, I've never been a parent before and I was wrong and I'm sorry. You know because I think it's important for them to know that you know when you've hurt their spirits, you know when you've gone too far and been potentially damaging. You know, it's easy to do, we all have tempers and we're all stressed and we're all tired and it's easy to do and I think it's important to always say hey, look I was wrong. Maybe we should have had them here on the couch. No. (LAUGHS) Listen, Barnados has some valuable, invaluable services right across the region centres in Queanbeyan, Canberra, south coast, far west in Orana there, but at the end of the day, how important is it to reach out and I guess, how hard is it to make that call when you think you're doing it right on your own? Oh, gee, I think it's incredibly hard, I think, that all parents need support and the thing that we often do in our society is we tend to you know, you say to someone at a party, what you do and if they say I'm a mum, people look around to see who's more interesting. We tend to put parenting at the bottom of the food chain in terms of interest. But it's the most important job in the world. And the hardest job in the world and every day is a juggle whether your working or not working because there are so many influences as I said before. So many influences on kids today that didn't exist when you or I were kids. Do you think there's a pretty alarming statistic that Barnados has shared with us. 309,517 reports of child abuse and neglect from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare 06/07. Where are we going wrong? Is it tougher these days as parents or is it just the fact that we have this information available to us these days? I think it is tougher. I honestly think it is tougher, because I think there's you know, there's so many people where both parents are working if in fact there are both parents, there are many more stresses on people today. And I also think that there are a lot of kids who were brought up in a world where they don't know, they don't remember parents now, sorry, who don't remember life without television and they're now bringing up kids who've never known life without the Internet and all these other kids of screen influences. So we don't communicate as people as much as we did until very recently. Televisions only 50 years old. The Internet's only 10 years old and the ironic thing is that in this so called technological revolution which is supposed to put better communication at our finger tips, I think we are in fact becoming more and more isolated from each other. You know and kids are sitting in their bedroom creating cyber identities and avatars rather than going out and interacting with human beings and I think that's a real concern. You've presented an incredible speech last year in November 07. You said that kids are suffering a mid life crisis in their teens. Is that all part of it? And what's being done to fix that I suppose? What have you seen over I guess, the year? Well I don't know that you can fix be aware of it. I just think that we just need to You know and the more we talk about it, the more aware of it people become. But you know, it's, there is no manual for parenting. And the demands of children are extraordinary, particularly if your only seeing them from 7 o'clock in the morning till 7.30 and after 7.30 at night. You know, how do you keep up? But with child abuse, I just think we have to keep demanding from each other that we're honest about the things that are hard for us as parents. @ You know I talked a lot in the community about how I find it difficult to be a parent and that, you know, I've written for a lot of publications talking about the trials of raising boys. You know, just trying to keep them alive because there are so many things out there that can hurt them and people are so relieved when they understand that someone in my position of some celebrity, that they don't find it easy. And I think there's this prevailing myth that you should be able to do it well. And if you don't do it well, you're a failure. Well the fact is, you just try your best. You know, you try your best and hope for the best You know, you I'm actually glad you said boys not girls. (LAUGHS) Yeah I have 2 boys. Listen well we'll have to leave it there. Thank you so much for joining us this morning, mum's the word until May 7 when the big announcement will be, just before that Thursday, just before mother's day. Have a wonderful 2009, enjoy mother's day, I hope you get breakfast in bed. Listen I've just got to ask one quick question though, is it true though that you can get anyone to sing I'm a little teapot? (LAUGHS) Pretty much yeah, pretty much. Yeah I specialise in that at charity functions. Yeah, we tend to, usually they're giving money to stop it, but no they all get up and do it. before Jan 31st for Barnados mother of the year, 'cos you know, there's nothing nicer than getting a pat on the back for being acknowledged for being special. @ being acknowledged for Wonderful. Thank you so much Noni. Look after yourself. Thanks Peta. You look beautiful. Thank you. Cheers. We apologise for the temporary loss of captions. Normal service will resume as soon as possible. Welcome back to State Focus. Our next guest has been "rescued from himself" to use his words. "Big Dave" Parsons has a rhyme about life many have not experienced. The award-winning hiphop artist says he's changed his life "for the better" and is ready to share his new "no holds-barred" album, "Raw Stories, Volume One". (LAUGHS) How you going? How you going Peta. Yeah good. I'm doing alright. Happy new year, Happy new year! 2009. Yeah good, good, just spent it with a few boys, had a few nice cold beers and stuff, a bit of a party. Brought it in with the family and the friends. Lovely to hear, now it's your job to take us back, tell us about what you've done in your life that's made you want to change it? Um, I had a bit of a sort of checkered past. You know I sort of, good involved with the wrong crowd when I was younger and sort of, I was living on my own and trying to survive, you know, trying to pay the rent and eat and things like that and still try and go to school, so I ended up dealing drugs and ended up in prison and using drugs as well and basically the sort of things that don't make a successful life and I sort of got to a stage where I had to look back at things and say, you know maybe I need to make a change. How's the mind and body these days? Much better. Good to hear. More cholesterol than anything else, but healthy, healthy yeah. Now listen, how excited are you about I guess this time in your life in a couple of weeks term one will begin. Tell us how you are gonna be changing some rather precious lives in Canberra. Yeah we've got a program going called the workshop. Basically we're gonna try and help some kids that have got sort of the same upbringing we went through. There's a school in Kambah, it's called Galilee school and they work with kids that come from troubled backgrounds and since we're having a bit of success with the music, we're thinking maybe try and use that as a bridge to make connections with some of these kids and show them there's a different way and that there's more positive things in life, no matter where you come from. So did you ever think that you'd be writing objectives or a course outline or lesson plans? No, no. I actually didn't even finish year 10 so, yeah. (LAUGHS) (LAUGHS) What are the issues that are affecting kids today? A lot of these kids, they come from broken homes. They face a lot of drug and alcohol issues, violence in the home, neglect and things like that. And coming from houses like that, they sort of look for outside influences for role models and things like that and the people they tend to find are the kids coming from the same background and so yeah, they end up involved with police and stealing cars and crime and those sorts of things. You talk about leaving the bad habits behind. How do you maintain that change though that you want to instill in these young people when they do get back home. Or when they do get back with their friends. Because it was only up until a couple of years ago that you were only able to make the right choices, yourself or ready to make the right choices I should say. Basically I didn't have, I think a lot of the reasons I fell into the path that I fell into was because I didn't have any sort of positive influence. I was basically on my own, like these kids are. And I think if we can be that person that I didn't have and make a deep enough connection we're hoping that some of them will at least keep it in their mind and learn the lessons that we teach them and maybe take them out there and stay on the path that we try to set them on. But I mean, there's no guarantees really. What about the emotional side of things. I mean, how ready are you to be able to deal with what I imagine would be quite emotional for young kids or getting them to open up? Getting them, hiphop is actually a good tool to get them to open up. We did a meet and greet with some of the kids and they were straight away, I think for about 30 seconds they were like, ah, we don't want to be involved with this and then bang, they were straight into it and using hiphop is something they already loved was quite easy to get them to open up. Obviously we're not qualified to deal with all their heavy emotional, but we can do what we can, but we've got a psychologist, a qualified psychologist who's working on word books and he's gonna use that in conjunction with the counsellors at the school to sort of try and work together to deal with those emotions that they'll probably bring up. How are you coping though with 3 girls? Now, I should say congratulations on being a dad again. Yeah, Again. I've got a second daughter, so coming from a house with a single mum and two sisters, now I'm a father with a wife and 2 daughters @ Are you stressed? Yeah. (LAUGHS) Are you surviving? Oh I'm going alright. Yeah, yeah, no I'm enjoying it. It's a great experience no I'm e I reckon your loving every minute. I am, I am yeah. Listen I gotta ask, I should say congratulations on raw stories volume one. There is five more to come. Your life stories put into an album. You said that if you're going to write hiphop and talk about the injustices of the world politics that your gonna need to put your money where your mouth is. Show and prove. So has it been tough for you to prove yourself to deal with people who may have been skeptical about your past? It's been hard for me to prove myself at first that what I was saying was true and real in the beginning. But you know, it's just kind of been accepted now and I've worked a lot with prison inmates for which we did cop a lot of criticism for that in the beginning. Until we started getting help from people like Justice Action, a well respected reform group in Australia and we've even sent some letters to the united nations so people start to take it seriously there and they're all sort of moving into helping the kids that we sort of think need a bit of a hand and I think, we've done a pretty good job so far and we're getting our respect for it yeah. Can I ask you though, how fine an edge has it been for you not to want to return to the past and not want revenge and not want payback. Well it's, in the beginning, when I first got out of prison it was very difficult. I did actually slide for a few months back into crime and things and I was actually caught at a drug raid and they almost through me back in prison and I just got together with my girlfriend Stacey who's now the mother of my children and the look on her face when I was almost thrown back inside was pretty devastating cos I'd fallen in love with her so I thought, you know, maybe I better make a change you know. That's how I came up with a theme, she saved me from myself. Yeah (LAUGHS) You've written a song as well for her. My baby. Yeah, yeah I have. Like a gritty love song. (LAUGHS) How do the girls these days get a song written about her? (LAUGHS) She stops me from going back to prison. Yeah. (LAUGHS) Listen you have prepared a bit of a free styling for us to take us out, to set us up for 2009. Thank you so much. No worries, it's good to see you. Very nice to meet you. Congratulations on creating raw stories and here's to changing a few lives for 2009 and... Fingers crossed. (LAUGHS) (LAUGHS) Yeah, fingers crossed. Thanks sweetie. Cheers. Well, that's our first show for 2009. Here's Dave and his special State Focus diddy to take us out a bit of free styling. Look after yourselves. See you next Sunday. Bye for now. Sunday free styles here on Southern Cross Ten. I'm dropping acappellas, no pad, no pen. My tongue is magic like hocus pocus, got my mind set straight, got my mind state focus. One things for certain, KP boys are lurkin, Canberra street poets, just ask Peta Burton. Mike in hand when they draw back the curtains, I'm true to hip hop, the original version, I like to get cheeky, I like to get naughty, I'll be spitting raps till I'm well past forty, if I didn't have a citizenship, they'd try to deport me, find out why go buy raw stories. Live captions by Southern Cross Ten, Canberra. We apologise for the temporary loss of captions.