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(generated from captions) Aussie hero pilot who saved his

passengers from this mid-air passengers from this mid-air

inferno. First this morning,

pressure is mounting on the PM to

sack Environment Minister Peter

Garrett over the home insulation

debacle. The Opposition hammered Mr

Garrett in Question Time, claiming

if he was the director of a company,

he would be charged with

manslaughter over the four workers

who died installing home insulation.

The attack is coming from the

Construction Union which says the Construction Union which says the

Government insulation rollout

resulted in far too much work for

people who didn't have the relvents

training. Kevin Rudd is backing the

Minister, saying he's doing a great

job. And Environment Minister Peter

Garrett joins us now live from

Canberra. Mr Rudd is giving you, or

voicing his support for you at the

moment but there's still rife

speculation you could well use your

ministry. Can you survive this

onslaught? I intend to keep on

doing the job I've been doing, Ron.

There's always a lot of lightning

and banging of drums around the

political arena in Canberra but my

responsibilities as Environment

Minister, I've bis charged

absolutely fully. I made that clear

in the Parliament, including a

detailed statement, showing how we

have dealt with some of the issues

under this program. The Opposition

asked questions from me and then

censured me. We answered those

questions satisfactorily. It's a

job I take great conviction in

doing as well as I can and that's

what I'll keep doing. The

difficulty is four deaths just will

not go away. Could you not have

done more to prevent those

fatalities? Well, all of those

fatalities are the subject of

proper investigation by authorities,

and I think it's not appropriate

for me to be talking about them in

any more detail. Obviously, they're

of real importance and significance.

They're tragic, but the key thing

here in this debate that seems to

have been lost, particularly by the

Opposition who want to score point

around these issues, is that every

time I have sought additional

information or advice to make this

program work better and safer, when

that advice has come to me, I've

acted on it. A number of the

instances where safety issues have

been raised in the past or issues

about training have come up, I've

taken the appropriate advice and

put the measuresen place, which

I've done in the last three or four

days as well. More importantly than

that, with over a million homes

insulted, we now have in place for

the first time in -- insulateed, we

now have in place for the first

time a national accredited training

scheme, we have safety scheme, we have safety and

guidelines that are higher than the

Australian standards. This is also

at the same time when every single

installer is on notice, that if

they conduct any kind of unethical,

illegal or dodgy behaviour, they'll

be struck off the register. They'll

be subject to a name and shame

component on the register and

that's in addition to the existing

State safety regulations that are

in place. Safety is a priority.

We'll continue to very carefully

consider whether there's additional

measures we need to put in place,

if they're determined to be

necessary, I'll put them in place.

If we push the politics aside on

all of this, there's one mother

there who lost her son, one of the

four deaths, she will lay him to

rest in NSW tomorrow, she holds you personally responsibility. What do personally responsibility. What do

you say to her? I can understand

the deep grieving that family feel,

especially a mum. My sympathies are

real for that situation that they

face. What I can say is that we put

in place guidelines in July to make

sure that there was appropriate

standards for the safe installation standards for the safe installation

of in slgz -- insulation. If

installers were doing the job

properly, they would have done a

job which wouldn't have resulted in

unnecessary risk to anybody. As

soon as we've had a terrible

fatality, October 14, I've

immediately sought advice as to

what additional measures might be

needed. I've met with electricians,

consulted with the industry and

even though the advice to me at

that time was that banning metal

fasteners wasn't an appropriate

measure, because foil insulation

has gone in to ceiling around

Australia for many, many years when

buildings have taken place, I still

took the next step of banning those

metal fasteners. Then I said,

"Let's see what's going on in the

ceilings of roofs, particularly in

Queensland where foil had been

used," and on the interim results

of only five potential live roofs,

I took the step of suspending the

program. I'm very conscious of how

difficult and how tragic it is for

families facing this situation. I

take my responsibilities very

seriously. But I also call on

installers who have a duty of care installers who have a duty of

to exercise on these workplaces in

these ceilings with their own staff

to make sure that they do that

absolutely properly to make sure

safety is guaranteed for people. At

last count, there were 13 claims

from people that they gave you from people that they gave you

warnings. In fact, wore about to

talk to the Construction Union in talk to the Construction Union in

just a moment. They said they

warned you as well before this got

out of hand. Did no-one take any

notice of all these warnings? Look,

I reject this line we're hearing I reject this line we're hearing

about the number of claims that

have been made and the number of

warnings and we've taken no notice.

In many of these instances, these

warnings have come about as a

result of me initiating

consultations with the industry, consultations with the industry,

with training experts and others

about what risks there were. Of

course, we recognise there are

risks putting insulation in to a

cavity of a roof. That's well

understood. And putting in place as

a consequence of those negotiations

and the advice that comes to me,

the measures that are agreed as

necessary to deal with the issues

of risk. So in many instances, it's

been my action as a Minister, and I

detailed this in the Parliament

yesterday, that has actually

produced a national training model,

that has produced safety standards

that are greater than the

Australian standards and the

building codes, and also, which is

a compliance and monitoring program a compliance and monitoring program

in place to make sure people do the

right thing under this program. Now

it is a process of ensuring that we

get every bit of it right along the

way, I'm determined to do that.

I'll continue to consult and hear

views. But as from today, we have

not only a training model that

provides for either competencys or

insulation experience, or

specifically that the experience

that you need to do the job for the

installer, but also for those that

are working with him. I know you'll

be talking to the unions later on,

we consult with them, listen to

everybody's views. We'll try and

put in place the very best system

that can be done to deliver the job.

Minister, thank you very much for