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(generated from captions) of the afternoon as firefighters battled to a blaze at a scrapyard. fire jumped to nearby grassland a blaze at a scrapyard. The

and there were fears the produced by the blaze was toxic. That's ABC News. with us now with Chris Kim ball coming with Chris Kim ball coming up next. You can find headlines 24 hours a day at ABC next. You can find the latest online. Captioned. Hello, and welcome to 'Stateline'. I'm Pol r and it's great to have your Pol wr, and it's great to have your company, coming up on the program, two different one a farmer who fell and program, two different heroes,

other a composer, who at 75 one a farmer who fell and the

playing on. received their apology from the 'Forgotten

Australian parliament this week. This program has telling their stories since week. This program has been

first reported on telling their stories since we

of 2003. In 2007 we produced a and Welcome to Hay'. It was documentary called 'Eyes Down documentary

about the Detention Centre, jail, where teenage girls were sent and abused. That went on to win a couple of awards which Wilma Robb, Wilma has central voice in most of Wilma Robb, Wilma has been the

specials and central voice in most of our

child in Parramatta and she now has her own child in Parramatta and Hay,

family, a job and hopefully a life behind that battered childhood. Wilma Robb become part of the become part of the 'Stateline' family and we went with her to Monday's apology.

So is this going to make difference to it? Yes, knows what we all went it? Yes, just that someone

through. What institution were new. Parramatta Girls Home. Parramatta Hay. What year. '6 1. I was '62. '61, '62, '6 5 That's we were there. let's go. (Crying). I can't do this, Wilma. I can't do this. Yes, you can. You are going to tall and you are going to strong. Are we going up? Up there. There we House. This is so exciting, there. There we go. Parliament

just driving up here, but it's so powerful. I just hope apologise for all the children so powerful. I just hope they

that were in institutions. And we don't come under institution, Hay Jail Tamworth Boys Home was a prison, it was a jail. And so want to hear them say, for people that were locked in the children's gaols, and I really hope that they do,

because there's a lot of them here today and there's a lot of

them still in prisons, a lot of them committed think I need that, walk out of here and it's - think I need that, otherwise I

means less than nothing. look back with shame of these little ones who look back with shame that many

entrusted foster homes, instead were abused cruelly, violated sexually. And we reflect with you as well in sad remembrance simply could not cope and who took their own lives in absolute APPLAUSE absolute despair.

Today and from this forward, it is my hope that will be called the 'Remembered Australians'. . What a cruel and bitter absurdity it is system of homes absurdity it is that this

made worse every vulnerability system of homes reinforced and

and frailty Today we acknowledge that already feeling abandoned and left without already feeling alone,

love, many of you were beaten and abused sexually, mentally, and abused physically,

like objects, not leaving you to feel of less worth. We know you tried to run away all those ago, and we apologise for never stopping to ask the It just wasn't strong You know, I don't know whether - I don't know whether - we wanted more. I know I wanted more. I wanted the abuse that wanted more. I wanted more for

There was a lot that the abuse that I suffered.

too. . It There was a lot that needed it

enough, and yet we got it, too. . It just wasn't strong

grateful that we got lucky that we got it. They - it was so brutal, it was cruel and it's just was so brutal, it was so, so

unthinkable. So we went in as those kids, 15. And that. It didn't really - it was just like we'll put it on the little children. The just like we'll put it on for

didn't cut it. They weren't enough. I wanted to didn't cut it. They just

hear it. I wanted to hear it. talking to Mr Turnbull hear it. I wanted to hear it. I

night, and a Tamworth guy, and we said, you know, "We were in children's places were outlawed in children's prisons", these

1800s. You know. They don't - that needs to be known. - unless that is that needs to be known. Unless

from us, these people aren't - unless that is spoken about

going to say anything. I am not being It's just a as heal, it's the They are words, they as heal, it's the same as care.

that, you know, that - they just don't fit. My fight that, you know, that they don't

will be forever. Because my pain has been forever.

Rb, and, of course, her views are her views alone, of many found solace during the event - Rob r ace, I spoke to Wilma, event - Rob r many found sol

re-reading the speeches pleased with what Malcolm re-reading the speeches she was

Turnbull had to say. To another of our local heroes, although he would reject the title. Hill is a farmer and a truck driver delivering hay to other farmers or sheep to the yards, he's interested getting the job done, nothing yards, he's interested in

will stop him as Sarina Locke reports, a major just a minor setback. I stepped backwards, thinking that on the middle bail, and on the outside bale, and on the outside bale, and I slipped into midair. Jeff is your average your average hard-working country truckie, he has a farm near Yass and works of-7 days a week. - 6-7 days a week. part of NSW is too far, his work and life came work and life came to a crunching halt crunching halt in twat. He delivered a load of large bales to a farm. When with a load of hay, you normally unload with a end loder with spikes, end loder with spikes, hay forks, and - unfortunately particular day, there was no tractor, there was no hay forks, no nothing, so it was matter of getting rid of the load the best way I could. I climbed up on to the load, and I was trying, with a trying to bar the hay back a bit so I could get bit so I could get the chain around the hay, around the top, and loop it and go from and pull it off. That's what the intentions were. But as you were happened? I stepped backwards

thinking I was on the middle bail and I was on the bail and I was on the outside bale and I slipped into midair, and down I went. What went through your mind as you falling? Lots of things, lot things. You just - you see everything coming at you at once. When I hit the ground once. When I hit the ground my ankle was up - my boot was up around the top of me ankle and the bones that came through my skin, through my trousers and stuck into the ground, or when I say into the ground, it had hit the ground sort of farm's owner rang an ambulance, instead of waiting they off in the car, deciding to meet it on the road to Cowra. We headed off and which we did, and which we did, and met the ambulance on the way, but remember - I was holding the leg, I was sitting in the car on the seat holding the leg like that, trying to stop foot from because it was like a because it was like a ton weight hanging on the end weight hanging on the end of me leg, trying to stop me foot from swaying around, I glanced

at the side and thought we are going quick. And I said how fast are we going. He said we are doing 150, I can't go faster. I said you better get your foot off looking for another ambulance. It wasn't until Jeff got to hospital that he felt the pain of his smashed passed out. Doctors tried to repair his leg with pins and wire , it months. The day I went to work it fell to pieces. Given he was a busy man what was he like as a patient. It was a time in our suppose. He was pretty good, but got Just the fact that nothing seemed to be helping, working. And hated being And hated being in hospital for so long, at such - and felt like he was out of like he was out of control, I think. And couldn't think. And couldn't see what was happening, and, we were - we were living we were - we were living here and worried about what happening on the farm, and not in control, and I that was probably what that was probably what was probably the hardest for Jeff, he felt he had no control he felt he had no control over what was happening. For Jeff the drama wasn't over yet. the drama wasn't over yet. The plates failed, his leg and collapsed under his weight Rang and made an appointment for the doctor, went straight back to went straight back to the doctor and got in the surgery and he said, "We can do this procedure over again", procedure over again", or whatever. And I said "How long is it going to "How long is it going to take now?", he said, "We can give you another operation and put more plates in there and more plates in there and what have you and put for 9 months and take plaster off after 9 months and put something else on to you", I finished up with about three different plasters on. And different plasters on. And the calcium. And then it calcium. And then it was going to be about 2.5 years, and I said what's the said what's the next option. He said, "Take best thing we take it off, I lost enough of me life now without going through that, if it doesn't work. A new plastic coated metal limb Jeff was determined to walk again rehabilitation rehabilitation unit in Canberra Extremely determined, wanted to be out as quickly as possible, and now that we possible, and now that we have come this far, let's get it over and done with so I lead a normal life, doing what I want to do and love to do". All he wanted to do was his gut to get back to The first day he officially got back to work, there's a few stories, he did six loads of sheep Yass sale yards without a dog, I thought it got home on the got home on the Wednesday, walked around the truck Thursday, and on the Friday said, "I'm gone", got in the truck and headed off. Quite truck and headed off. Quite a few people who Jeff goes to visit to carry stock for don't notice he has got a prosthetic leg, so anyone's attention to it, you know, as I say, his disability is not a disability for him, he gets in and gets the the job done, I remember another day he came to yards, he up, strict his head on beam and peeled his he showed me when he dropped a load into the yards, I said, "Jeff, you have to see "Jeff, you have to see the doctor now", I said, arrange for another carrier do the last two loads", "Opposition artion, I'll get the job - pigs arse, I'll get the job done first". He said. How do new? Anything you do new? Anything you do now, you make sure you go make sure you go about a smarter way. There was a time

Jeff delivered hay to a farm at Major's Creek. The farmer no tractor. The wife had no tractor. The wife had boots, a wheelbarrow and said, "What are you going said, "What are you going to do. She said I'm going to the the strings on the hay, put the hay in the wheelbarrow and put the hay in the shed. I said, "You can take $15,000 for the truck, and you can have that, and I can get out of her". Pure and simple determination and the will to get on brought him through. What do you about having a there's not much I can do it, I've got it, I have the best of what I've got. This year it's year it's the 75th birthday of composer and pianist Larry Sitsky, born in China Sitsky, born in China into an Russian Jewish Emigre, that came to Australia in 1951, his musical career began with first public concert at the of 9. He has always of 9. He has always performed and composed believing that communion with an audience keeps music alive. Chris Kimball met Larry Sitsky for Kimball met Larry Sitsky for a lively Thank heaven the energy levels Hand waned. levels Hand waned. If anything, I'm 75, but there's a 16-year-old inside trying 16-year-old inside trying to get out. So that's how it feels at the moment. How do at the moment. How do you describe music? To me, music is essentially a mystical essentially a mystical process because it has in something that will elevate something that will elevate us. And so the idea of playing music and especially composing music is probably world slightly better than when you entered it. Larry Sitsky isn't about to leave musical world. He still embracing new projects securing the backcatalogue of Australia's musical Australia's musical history. As you see what he does is he takes a takes a bird call... ..and he builds it into a kind of musical structure by adding harmony. In the 1920s Adelaide composure Brewster Hooper Jones wrote a series of 73 wrote a series of 73 pieces inspired by birds. This 'Fighting Fantales', I suppose it's aerial combat, (Piano plays). This (Piano plays). This is the first time they've been From next will library is full of scores which have yet to be played. The head is full of music I'm yet to write down. There's all Australasian sitting there dusty museums waiting for someone like me, doesn't someone like me, doesn't have to be me, to publish it, edit it, put to the world. Is there always music in your or unfortunately - head. Fortunately yes. Is that why so many great composures have been subject to suggestion they may be a mad, over the years. I think a certain level almost a prerequisite because you'd have to be driven by this very abstract very abstract strange sound world which very real to me, but not very real to me, but not to anyone else. Do you believe you are just now starting your peak as a musician, and as a composure. I suspect that I am. Who is to say. It am. Who is to say. It takes years. There's no two ways about it, unless you are a prodigy of some kind, like Mozart, perhaps, who Mozart, perhaps, who afterall was dead at half my age, but he was already composing - he was 6 years old or 7 years old. Larry Sitsky has also composing since his childhood, forming childhood, forming whole symphonies in his mind inspired by diverse sources. Once I've thought a piece through, little alarm bell goes off in your head, and you know it's time to sit notetaking it. I don't use computers, it's pencil and paper, and a rubber. that... That piece has to come out. It has to come out, if it doesn't haunted by haunted by it and, in fact, I can't sleep at night the thing won't stop. My wife sometimes says never mind the practice, you know, the needs taking out. So it helps, actually, to escape from this kind of rarefied super energetic energetic world into something a little more prosaic. The garden and things like that. The garden, which, of course, is probably good course, is probably good for you anyway. You've described as a powerful force in shaping Australia's cultural life. How do you - how that make you know if I can live know if I can live with that one. All I can say is look, one. All I can say is look, I just do what I believe in. If it creates this kind impression - well, that's I really don't think of myself

as a powerful force. An Australian cultural heavyweight from a background he as an ethnic years it from why don't you speak English like we do, to, "We are Friday in your culture", so mine is particularly diverse, and it's been a great help to me creatively because I have the the Jewish background, the Russian background, the Russian background, the Chinese background and I have used them all. Do you all. Do you enjoy that interaction with the young composures, and putting the pressure on young composers to

understand the life understand the life that is ahead of them? I used to ahead of them? I used to say to my piano students that I my piano students that I want blood on musical world - it might musical world - it might seem glamorous as a facade, but the actual work of being a - it's highly competitive, - it's highly competitive, and people are sharpening people are sharpening knives all the time. At this stage in your career, what is the important thing to you. A sense of humour, I think, probably the best advice I can anyone. Because without are sunk. You have to be able to laugh to laugh at yourself. Laughing at others is at others is fairly easy. The day I take myself seriously would be sad, I think. Do would be sad, I think. Do you ever worry that one day that music will turn off, that music won't be going around won't be going around in your head? Yes, that will be a worry. I hope it's still a while away. I think while away. I think when it falls silent, I won't know what to do. Fingers crossed. Indeed. Still on that musical theme, with a bit of art and dance thrown into the mix, 'The River' is the mix, 'The River' is the latest multisensory production from the Mirramu Dance a performance piece inspired by the challenges change, it uses sculpture, dance and classical music to tell the story of Australia's great but struggling (Music plays) I like to (Music plays) I like to do work that has a message, you know. I can go dance love, this love, that, but I

like to dance where there is a message that can come 'The River' is a dance dance for mother Earth, I believe, just part of our culture to dance about whatever is going wrong in is going wrong in our country. The The two dancers are representing the Darling River and the Murray River, and in the very beginning it's like a love duet, as love duet, as the duet progresses progresses more and more they get separated. You know, they were created by the rainbow serpent. They were our main source of food, so the source of food, so the people that live on that that live on that area don't have that source of have that source of food now that time. And it's all dried up. And the water has away. We have live musicians, we have the very organic sculptural forms that hang in space, and the dancers, of course, who make the show really happen. It's great to dance with live musician, I come from a culture of musician, but to have musician, but to have David, the cello, to dance with the

cello, I have never done it before. Water is, I think, the biggest issue for our country, and the more we talk perhaps the more we can find solutions to the climate change that we climate change that we are all beginning to experience beginning to experience right now. The cellist was David Pereira, and 'The River' is part of a triple bill at the street this weekend only. week, back by popular demand a return visit to the daims r the women and the stories that Dames of Dumaresq women and stories that much of Canberra's recent women and stories that tell so

history. Chris Kimball will see you then, thanks for company, goodbye. you then, thanks for your

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