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(generated from captions) year trial. That's so promising.

And breast cancer affects the lives

of so many Australians. That's

great news. In other news, though,

apparently we're in the midst of

apparently we're in the midst of

another baby boom. Stats out

showing that almost 300,000 new

babies were born last year. More babies were born last year. More

than at any other time at our

nation's history. It sounds nation's history. It sounds

about exciting but not everyone is happy

about it.

In a speech last night, Labor MP

Kelvin Thompson likened Australia's

grow away population to a run away

train. On track to hit 35 million

by 2050. He wants to reduce that

target by nine million, and he

thinks this could be the way to do

it. Cut migration from 200,000 a

year to 70,000. Close off automatic

entry for New Zealanders. And scrap

the baby bonus in order to lower

the fertility rate. So, do we

really need a population reform?

And if so, is this the way to go

about it? And MP Kelvin Thompson

joins us now. Why do we need to joins us now. Why do we need to

reduce our population growth? Well,

at present, we're tracking for 35

million, and I believe that 35

million would have a catastrophic

effect on our wildlife, it would

reduce our capacity to meet carbon

reduction targets. Would cause

further stress on food, land, water,

energy. And would make our cities

like Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane

overcrowded concrete jungles. It

would make a mockery of our

obligation to pass on to our

children and grandchildren a world

and an Australian way of life in as

good a condition as was given to us.

Me and my wife had a baby this year.

We're pretty happy with him, but do

you think we should get him adopted

overseas? The main way we can deal

with this issue is to reduce net

overseas migration to 70,000. It's

presently of the order of 200,000.

If we were to do that, we would be

able to stabilise Australia's

population at 26 million by 2050.

Now, you've actually suggested that

we drop the number of skilled

migrants from 100,000 to 25,000. If

we do that, who is going to fix my

dishwasher? There are 100,000 young

Australians aged between 15 and 24

who dropped out of the workforce

last year. I believe we need to

have a much greater investment in

education, in training, in

apprenticeships so that there are plenty of young Australians capable

of doing that and many other jobs.

What have you got against New

Zealanders? You're not allowing

them in. Have you been refused

entry at a nightclub? They

counterattacked in New Zealand and

referred to a former Prime Minister

saying that every New Zealander who

leaves for Australia raises the IQ

of both countries! But my point is,

unless you're prepared to cap that

program, you can not be certain of

delivering an outcome. So my

proposed outcome is a 70,000 net

overseas migration program, capping

the New Zealand program doesn't

mean that New Zealanders will miss

out or won't be able to come here.

The figures I've done for the last

few years suggest there wouldn't be

any change in that arrangement but

it means that you can have a

certain outcome. It's a very

interesting suggestion and thank

you very much for turning to us

tonight. You can not stop New

Zealanders coming to this country,

because if we do that, they might

do the same and stop us going to

live there, and that would

disappoint about three people every

year. I love New Zealand. Yeah, and

I think we're kind of missing the

point. New Zealanders mainly come

here to save up to go to the UK

anyway, and they're not going to be

here. They're like Aussies. If you

go travelling and meet a New

Zealanders, it's like you're at

home. It's like your little

brothers... We can abuse! It's all

fun and games. You meet up with New

Zealanders overseas and everything

is going there, and then you go -