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(generated from captions) the report at that

time. Victoria's emergency

services commissioner Bruce

Esplan in the commission

yesterday. Returning to had

day's top story - the Budget

has been delivered but the

political speculation continues

in Canberra this week with talk

about the prospect of a double

dissolution eelection. Family First Senator Steve Fielding has accused the

has accused the Government of

seeking an early election

through its alcopops bill which

won't be reintroduced to

parliament until June. Senator Steve Fielding joins us now.

Good morning. We just had the deputy prime minister Julia

Gillard on the show warning

Senators that the Government

had a right to govern. Are you

going to respect that and pass

the Budget in its entirety?

Look, certainly the Government

Look, certainly the Government

has the right to govern but by

the same token the Australian

people want to make sure that

their policies are scrutinised

and, look, no-one wants to

frustrate the Government of the

day. The Government themselves

are deliberately using alcopops

as the double dissolution

trigger because they could

bring the bill back in today,

have it voted on and if it's

defeated it wouldn't be a

dissolution trigger for a double

dissolution but they're

choosing to wait until June to

make it a double dissolution

trigger. That's plain politics. Getting back to

Budget, you have concerns about

the first home owners grant,

IVF support and what you think

is an insufficient increase to

pensions for couples. Will you

be pushing for changes to these

measure s? We will be pushing

for them. You have got

for them. You have got to

realise the Rudd Government basically promised pensioners

they would get an increase to

the pension. They have been a

bit mean and tricky here.

They've spent 53 billion in the

last few months and can only

manage to increase the pension

for single pensioners, couple

pensioners get a $5 payment and it's a slap

it's a slap in the face to

them, especially when pollees'

super is exorbitant and they

won't put a stop to that. Are

you going to insist on those

changes before you agree to

discussions with the pass the Budget? We'll be in

Government. They'll be bringing

in various bills, drip-feeding

them into the Senate over the

next period. We'll be sitting

with them. We don't want to

to realise frustrate them but you've got

to realise they basically told

Australia they would increase

the pension. What they've done

is been mean and tricky and

just done the single pension.

Couple pensioners are better

off getting divorced and taking

the single pension. What kind of family values would that

be? It sounds like you are

going to insist on the changes

before you allow the Budget to

pass? We're going to see how

pass? We're going to see how

the Government can find room to

give money to single

pensioners. They've given them

$5 each, a one-off payment. The

rally in Melbourne, couple

pensioners felt they were going

to get relief in the Budget.

The Government spent 53 billion

in cash splashes which may help

the economy but they could have

helped the couple pensioners by

giving some of it to them.

Where is the extra money going

to come from?

to come from? Are you going to

push the country further into

deficit? I don't reckon the

Rudd Government's done the hard

yards. If the public knew Prime

Minister and Cabinet, his own

department, got a $13 million

increase, 60 extra staff, if

we've got to pull our belts in,

why isn't the Prime Minister

pulling his belt in? Look at his superannuation payment and

most of the seen

most of the seen politicians'.

They're asking Australians to

cut back their super, why don't

the pollees cut back theirs?

Have you started talks with

Government about your hopes for

changes to these budgetary

measure s? We will be. The

Government have been busy

trying to sell the Budget to

the Australian public. We're

happy with the single pension

increase. We're cerb concerned also about

also about the means testing

and whether means testing

should be lifted for the number

of children you've got. We all

know having kids is a joy but

it's also a cost and when you

introduce moons testing you

don't have it based on the

number of kids, I think that

pretty mean. You've got to help

families evolve and grow so

this Budget should encourage

means families and I think having the

means testing based on the

number of kids would help. Back

to alcopops, you say it's clear

the Government is trying to set

up a double dissolution trigger

with the alcopops legislation,

you also believe the Government would lose an election if it

went to the people based on the

alcopops legislation. What's

your basis for that belief?

Let's go back to this. The

alcopops, it's been in place, the tax hike has

the tax hike has been in place

for one year. Now we haven't

had less street violence from

alcohol, we haven't had less

hospital admissions from alcohol. You've got health

experts saying it's

successful. I've gut health experts saying it's not

successful. This is the issue,

most Australians know binge drinking is not a tax problem.

We didn't take the most popular

brand of

brand of cigarettes and tax

those because there would be

substitution to other products

and quite clearly the Budget papers there's been

substitution to beer and other product and clearly the taxinate working. The

Government's hiding behind a

blatant tax grab and aing it's

going to address binge

drinking. They need to stop

hiding behind it and do and

decent policies like tackling the big

the big one which is alcohol

and sport and restrict alcohol

advertising from sport. This

Government refuses to tackle

that big question and you've

got to ask why they won't stand

up to the big alcohol industry,

especially when we've got a big

problem with alcohol in sport.

We see it every day of the