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(generated from captions) and of course Rosemary. Thank you Mark and your flower does look very beautiful. A lot more glamourous than

more glamourous than my little

sprig. Thank you. Before we go a brief recap of our top story tonight - Canberrans the Anzac spirit story tonight - Canberrans took

morning, turning out in record the Anzac spirit to heart this

numbers for the Dawn Service at

the war memorial. 50,000

respects at the people gathered to pay their

services. That respects at the city's two

Stay with us now for services. That is ABC News.

'Stateline' coming up next with Catherine Garrett. Enjoy your weekend. Goodnight. Closed Captions by CSI

Stateline. I am gar bar gar. Hello and welcome to

Coming - Catherine Garrett. Coming up we will mark in Anzac

Day with a look at the hidden treasures of the Australian War Memorial but first the political focus and media has been on Olympic torch relay. been on Canberra for the Organisers declared it a Olympic torch relay.

success but for many Canberrans were of enduring images were not of the torch but of Chinese

Kimball reports. I welcome the Olympic torch.

I appeal to you, please, this is a city, a country of peace, the people with the red flags, please stay on the side. Please, or this event is just not going to happen. One China! One China for

We want peace. Peace in Tibet. That's our main message. Is it a relief see a carnival atmosphere and see people happy at this point? It is because it is what is all about. We have been

disappointed with what's all about. We have been very happened parts of the world but we are happened with the torch in some

looking forward to Australia showing the world how it can be done. The group is doing it them themselves as requested rather than being physically

and abiding by the agreement to pushed apart. They have agreed

stay apart, make but not the clash. Are you stay apart, make their point

worried about the day's going?

One China. One China. Go and watch the event. Go and enjoy the event, please. Away you go People angry we are trying to understand why people are angry. We got separated. Because Tibet belong to China. It is very important for

Tibet, the situation and with

Chinese people want to be human right and they want We want freedom. The reason so many Chinese people turn out today is because what and London. We the Olympic and we are not against the Chinese population, we are against the Chinese government policy which we want to change, we want human rights in Tibet.

One China. One China. One China! One China! I am not surprised. I know Chinese they are like - that's why I am

surprised for them. killer killer Hu Jintao

One China. One China! One

China! I certainly have... (Inaudible) We just got here. Just get out of here. No way, no way, no way. If you have a red flag, move back, move back now thank you! Move back!. One China. One China. Peacefully everybody,

peacefully. Peacefully,

peacefully. Peacefully.

(Inaudible) Amidst the emotion of the torch concerns raised that some key torch relay there has been

messages may have been lost. What is the situation in Tibet? And how do Chinese people about And how do Chinese people feel about the Olympics? This week

the I spoke to two Canberrans about

another from China. I think for me sports and politics should not be mixed, especially

under the Olympic movement.

Personally if they are protests

certainly will fully or there have been protests, I

the protests should be certainly will fully support

non-violent and non-physical under the country's rule of law. Anything beyond that certainly would not law. Anything beyond that I that. certainly would not support

The eyes of the world are on the Olympics are being held in

Beijing, in China, and I think China

world needs to know about rights record and I think the

these during the rel lay is a way to get the message heard. There is gross violation of happening in Tibet. The oppression and suppression

Tibetans have been for more than 50 years under Tibetans have been suffering

Chinese rule. How does the Chinese community generally

feel about the protests so far? I think the protests spark up

a lot of the, I call it nationalistic s support. a lot of the, I call it Possibly our support is not directly reacted to the protest itself, but rather than to support our mother country. That's where we come from, hosting the Beijing Olympic. One China! I think China is also using the Olympics to sort of

of you know like ledge it miez its rule over Tibet and if the

OK for China to go ahead world stands by and says it is

like saying China can whatever they want in Tibet it's OK because human rights is different and sports is different. respect the fact it is different. I mean, we do

but I mean I think everything respect the fact it is sports,

is interrelated. And, we can't just ignore human ran rights and the Tibetan suffering and the Tibetan suffering in Tibet and say that's a right now, Tibet is cut off different issue. You know, different issue. You

from the rest of the world. only forum in which get the world awareness about get the world stage to raise are the human rights abuses of China. them? I think probably is a

them? I think probably is a

way, not the way. If you we

listen or we see in recent television footage, PM Kevin Rudd, when we visit China, he raise already put a plaque about his comment. And to me for the head of State about his comment. And to me s

Australia, already put forward for the head of State of

on our behalf for the comment about human right issues, I think that to me is quite a strong statement. Certainly they are reaction from China, I don't think I wish to comment about that. You go back to your country. They were maybe very aggressive behaviour on aggressive behaviour on some parts but I think also having massive security around the

torch, and having you know like the Chinese security person guiding it, I think that provokes a lot of, you know, emotions about So, I don't think that you know doing anything to disrupt the torch relay or you know causing

troubles like that is a good thing, but I think people should sort of understand what is behind it and what has caused these people to do these things. On daily things. On daily basis if things. On daily basis if we have protester, very Embassy in Canberra, and I understand some of them are in Sydney or Melbourne. Now, this is a democracy and therefore if

they wish to put up a protest agenda or country, that to me is a good auv as a democracy to prevail - avenue. What do the Olympics mean to you? It means

a lot to me. It mean peace, harmony for, as an athlete it will provide a forum, arena for the champion in

to do their best in terms of

strength, the speed, and technique and also place of all people from place of all people from all nations of the world. I think the situation is really very

desperate in Tibet and like the Tibetans, in Tibet and elsewhere in China, I don't think that anybody know, like raise their voice against the Chinese regime and

I think the Tibetans who did it they risked they risked everything, they risked their lives, right now many of them have like we heard over 153 people

have died, and more than 4,000 have been arrested. But we don't know what's happened to

any of these people, I mean, somebody has to sort of be a The Australian War Memorial

is one of this country's most popular and revered national institutions. But many of its real treasures

for years in vast archives. Chris Kimball took a rare back stage tour of the archives with research It has been resurgent over the last 20 years and we are

now finding people are almost obsessed with trying to find an Anzac of sorts within their

family history. About the only

it at the moment is shelf metre, because collections can be measured in different ways. So we like to say it is 8 shelf kilometres long. There is everything from unit diaries which record which record the activities of the units and have the intelligence summaries in

as well as that we have private

records and personal

manuscripts that most of which are donated by the people that walk through the door. So sort of things are we talking

about here Mal? This whole area is war diaries, unit diaries from the second world war. There is a list

everything they did and in some places, It is their action s... All the of the actions and

promotions. People are still

poring over the diary, stories with little tales and

funny format s that come in.

You have got a vast variety of for mans that for mans that people recorded things in the prisoner of war on basically anything they can get. The Bean had a vision for the War Memorial as a place for reference not just remembrance. This was donated to us

the war, after Bean's death. He had the and said this had to be remembered then he continued that Western Front but what he

was a great museum that would give commemoration through understanding. Bean's vision

has become a vast collection.

The War Memorial is home to

literally millions of donated items, some become items, some become part of public displays, others remain hidden treasures. This with is one big map. It is one big map. It is guy began tick. It is too big for us to have used in have used in the exhibition because it really needs such space to be disgraed. It - displayed. It tells the displayed. It tells the light horse history. How significant are these items as part of the

collection. This is a magnificent piece because something we tour to other areas that take something like this and it something like this and it is a really rich illustration of our history. So this is item that has never been on public disla. This is a large

oversize chart can containing over 1,000 signatures for first world war. The latest one that is dated is 1927, Queen Elizabeth. The ones at the head are probably the most

interesting. They have people like Birdwood and Chauvel, along with along with reigning dignitaries. Most of these riches do much more than gather dust. The archive collection is a key public resource. Look at our father

second world war. We come down to a number mention the word "Alen". But the wen we will look at first off is the second world war

nominal role. It is a role by

veterans affairs. I am just coming to find out about some medals my brother the Vietnam War. The medals we find inscribed around the rim with the name and service

number. As the issues is like

design, that is actually getting rather involved. The research centre gets more than

4 million Internet inquiries

each year and 30,000 in-person requests and it is a requests and it is a magnet for

authors and academics. The memorial's archives and library collections are collections are really the single most important source for anyone who wants past and in many respects Australia's history in general. Social history questions can answered from these collections

as much as technical or battle histories. I suppose the next

push will be to make more accessible the vast collection of private records, soldiers personal letters and diaries, which we have a which we have a huge collection of, very historic collection, and where at the moment working our way through making that much more available to people on line. That on line presence is part of a future plan, the

vast collection is being didgetised, and there is a move to reach a diverse new audience through some unlikely vehicles. How to people react when you say you are looking to push the archive s and push the archive s and research centre Facebook or YouTube? Initially this is a bit of surprise, if most resist stance from some certain staff members certain staff members who are less aware of it. I think aum - all we are doing in a contemporary sense is using all of those new tools, just like

Bean and Treloar would have

used them before. I think it

is invaluable. Something we

can't really put a price on.

I stand again upon this hallowed ground, alone quiet. Each step upon track I know a face is near. For many soldiers trod this mud, and many soldiers blood

kons crated the ground with its Scarlett glow.

These are the words of former Sergeant Bede Tongs who had the heart of a warrior but soul of a poet. He was awarded the military medal for bravery for Japan niece at Kokoda. intense period he has committed to memory and poetry. He spoke

to Phillip Williams. In the nud and mayhem

In the nud and mayhem - mud and mayhem that was the Kokoda

Track, a young Canberra carpenter, Bede Tongs was suddenly faced with a enemy that had not experienced defeat. Myself and 8, we set off, and two days later the Japanese along the Kokoda Track, not that far from Templeton's crossing. And there was - by that time I had sent two runners back, so sent two runners back, so there

was six soldiers and myself. We engaged the six men? Six men and we were two days away from our battalion, but that was my job. I had to report a rough

estimate as to how many were there but more or less what Not long after Bede Tongs was

awarded the military medal for bravery. With a forward scout killed and his commanding

officer wounded, he took on Japanese machine gunners. And it was about 10 paces away I am looking down

looking down the barrel of this machine gun, but luckily the two gunners Japanese gunners were attending to their left for some reason or other. And I was able to and fortunately it landed right in the pit. And from then in the pit. And from then on I went back to the platoon and conducted the attack. I was brought up in those days

call them church of England, Anglican and I did say a Anglican and I did say a prayer in the middle of that fire

lane. Of course in a situation and mateship is so important, to all of your

to all of your survival. Yes. It must have been doubly hard when you lost a mate. It was.

It was. It was... one of the hard parts of that was it was

just like we are here now, talking. And

one of us just - he doesn't

talk anymore. that's my best friend, that's sergeant Carter who was killed on 29th of November

mission. That must have been a tough moment for you? It was. It he was a great soldier, very good soldier too. Tell me about your poetry. For you is

that a way of sort of in a sense encapsulating or

releasing the emotions of that time? I think that would time? I think that would be putting it in the right putting it in the right way

Phillip, yes. Also, to I would like to record like to record the happenings. What do you say to adying man? Do you call him Bob, digger or mate? As you look at the face you have known so well, and the look in his eyes says, "It's late". That says it is still the question, what the question, what do you say

to a dying man? You know that to a dying man? You know that in short while he is just dead, and you mainly - you looked at

them and I don't know, you generally knew some of their family, so a lot of your thoughts were how thoughts were how devastating or whatever it is on or whatever it is on the

family. That Bob or Bill or Tom just, they won't be Tom just, they won't be home anymore. Just three minutes ago he was so full ago he was so full of life, firing bursts from a gun at his hip. The platoon had that hip. The platoon had that many times before when all sudden he is hit. A Japanese sniper so deadly had fired from a dark weapon pit. The a dark weapon pit. The sniper was from his brim, and from his brim, and my best

friend fell close to my feet. Tell them I tried - were the

last words he said. My words

of goodbye froze on my lips. In the desperate jungle fighting the jewel book, the J - the rule book, Geneva convention meant little. When the two scouts mutilated. Flesh taken off the calves, legs and arms and so on. Where did this spread? Once the - we heard of the can iblelism. It was just plain no quarter whatsoever. So the law of the jungle - eat or be of the jungle - eat or be eaten

- you kill or you will kill yourself. Does that now reflecting back, all these

years later, does that sort of haunt you at all? No, it

doesn't worry me one little bit, because at that particular time I was doing - well I doing what I had to do. But in 1953 I was injured on my way to Korea and they are beautiful people.

- How did you reconcile that? Your experiences in war time

and just a few years later? I wept there with the idea - went there with the idea with the first one I saw was going to kick him in the shins, but they are different people all together. I would like to be remembered - just that there was such a thing as the for Australia, it was the battle for

of what some say today. It was

the battle for Australia, and

the Australian service men and women, they saved this great country of ours. ish I just

like to be remembered as part of the saveiour of Australia in that era. The Canberra The Canberra Glassworks opened just under a year ago.

Its current exhibition is called 'Point of Balance', and it features a remarkable larger

than life glass woman. Stateline's Andrew Hague Stateline's Andrew Hague went on for the installation. Hi I am Simon, a local Canberra artist. I to show you my latest work,

"Pendulum". Which is part of the 'Point of Balance' exhibition at the Canberra

Glassworks. Let's take a look. I often use glass as a metaphor for the experience and in this case keep anything mind 'Point of

Balance', I was looking at the idea of where we are at this point in time. It say species or as human beings and our past actions, our present actions

future actions and how that affects us and keeping in affects us and keeping in mind

the idea of balance, and the way things will move from one point to another. And point to another. And that's why this piece is suspended as well. It is looking at the

idea of a pendulum, and how that represents, you know, an

action and reaction. In time. The glass is all blown by hand into moulds that are premade. It takes a good two months to actually resolve a piece to a state where it ready to hang. As you can I have had to cut I have had to cut each piece back and grind it back and the

stainless steel fittings are mounted internally on the

inside. It is quite fiddly, the assembly process. probably took 6 to 8 hours to

actually hang the whole piece. Individually each piece Individually each piece is suspended on the the torso and the mid each weigh about 10, 15kg. So the structure I have made had

to be engineered to hold its own own weight and support the

glass as well. It has taken a while to finish. It was purpose-built for the space. So come and check it out. The exhibition runs to runs to 18 May and also make sure work of the jap work of the jap ees artist Masahiro Osaka at the 'Point of Canberra Glassworks. That's the program. I That's the program. I will see you next week. Closed Captions by CSI

Hi. I'm Andy Muirhead and welcome to Collectors for this Anzac Day. Now have a look at this. It's a small, handcrafted chess piece, but who would have the time or the need to make a whole set of these? Stick around and find out. THEME MUSIC

Tonight on Collectors, we go into the trenches at Gallipoli. It's very important to keep these items available, for people to see what they went through. Adrian with some modern classics - Newson has designed things that really matter to us. Gordon's looking at Aussie timbers -

You know, when the first settlers arrived here, they looked to make some furniture. They imported mahogany and pine to make it with, not realising that they had fine timbers around them. And out of the fire and into the shed. I heard they were being burned. I thought, gee, that's not a nice thing to do to a well-made boat.

Evening, guys. PANEL: Hi, Andy. Is 'Happy Anzac Day' the right thing to say?

PANEL: Oh, I don't know. It's a day of remembrance.