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Presenter: Now to our regular review of the week in federal politics and I'm joined this morning by
the Parliamentary Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Greg Hunt, and Labor's Shadow Minister for Human
Services, Tanya Plibersek. Good morning to you both. Now Tanya if I can start with you, the big
issue this week seems to be the business success of Kevin Rudd's wife Therese. That's put Kevin
Rudd in quite a difficult situation politically, but Tanya, this is a very modern dilemma affecting
a growing number of Australian families today.

Plibersek: It is a modern dilemma. Kevin loves Therese very much. He is very proud of her, he's
proud of the three children they've raised together and he is proud of the fact that over almost 20
years she has built up a business from nothing to a very successful business. If I were in his
position, I would find it very difficult to ask my partner, who I loved and was proud of, to give
up all of that for my own career. He is facing a very difficult time, but I am sure that together
Therese and him will deal with it together openly, honestly, with integrity, and they will keep
talking about it and make a decision that is good for their family and good for the country.

Presenter: Greg, the opposition, particularly Kevin Rudd, have been very quick to attack the
WorkChoices legislation. Do you believe Therese Rein's company made an honest mistake though?

Hunt: I don't think this is about Therese Rein at all. I think she's built up a big business it's a
multi-million dollar business and they're now one of Australia's wealthiest families, the Rudds.
Good luck to them. She has done all the right things, probably. What it is about is the opposition,
Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard, have been bullying mum and dad small businesses. They have attacked
small business without giving them the same chance to explain as at the Rudd family company. There
is a double standard here, there was a vicious attack on a lovely little hotel-owning small
business family at the Lilac Motor Inn in Goulburn. Everybody should stay there if they can. There
has been no time for them to explain.

Plibersek: You know that that is absolutely untrue. The Lilac Motor Inn, that case was raised by a
newspaper. Both Kevin and Julia spoke in general terms about an Australian workplace agreement that
stripped away pay and conditions from

workers. They weren't talking about a specific hotel. They were talking about an AWA that was
written as a template for the industry that was a very bad template for that industry. Please let
me finish. It is absolutely vital that we are very careful when we raise these issues about
workplaces. We are very careful - you can never be too careful when you're doing this. But we will
continue to raise issues of concern in Australian workplaces, because the government policy allows
workers' pay and conditions to be stripped away.

Hunt: The deputy opposition named this motel on radio, savaged them, never asked them, never gave
them a chance, and what we have seen here is that there is a bullying of mum and dad small
businesses and everybody should show their solidarity. If they're going to Goulburn, stay at this
Lilac Motor Inn and give these people a chance to get back on their feet. Don't allow this sort of
vindictive false bullying spirit and bullying of small business. What's actually happening here is
that the incident with Mr Rudd's wife simply highlights what ordinary small businesses are doing
all around Australia they're making deals directly with people and what is happening is that
there's an anti-small business attack here that's really hurting small businesses ...

Plibersek: That is simply not true.

Hunt: ... and it's going to hurt them if the Opposition wins government.

Presenter: Tanya, if I can I put the situation to your back Kevin Rudd has admitted that this whole
situation is embarrassing for him and they are now talking about the prospect that Therese Rein
will have sell her company. Is this a situation he will have to face if he becomes Prime Minister?

Plibersek: Well, look it is a very difficult situation. I think that it's very important for the
Prime Minister to have someone who is supportive and loves them and cares for them at home. I would
have thought it would be an additional benefit to have someone who understands how the business
community works and also what it's like to be a working mother, juggling all the pressures of
running a corporation and raising three children. I would have thought that would have been a
benefit for Kevin. At the end of the day, this must be a decision for their family to make. This is
a decision - we say that every family in Australia should have the right to decide, does Mum stay
at home or Dad stay at home for the early years, do they combine part- time, full-time work. We
know that that most families combine those things. They have some times when one parent is the
full-time carer for the kids, they have some times when both parents are working. But this is a
decision that all families face. All families need to make this decision and Kevin's family has the
right to make the decision as well.

Presenter: Greg, if I can put the final question to you this morning, surely you were concerned
when the Prime Minister told the Coalition, or told his party room, that the Coalition faced
annihilation at the election, surely that sparked some concern?

Hunt: I think that he's setting out a very real concern that if you do have a result which is in
line with the polls now, you would have the most powerful Labour government ever in Australian
history, you'd have all of the states and territories and

then an overwhelming majority in the federal parliament and that is a real concern, that the
prosperity of the last decade it would be at risk. I think that's the message from the prime
minister, you probably don't want the most powerful Labour governments of the last 100 years with
no checks and balances and the capacity to run up massive debt. it was the question of clever

Presenter: Tanya do you think it was an issue of clever politics from the Prime Minister to say
that?

Plibersek: He's no underdog, he's a wily old fox. Thank you.