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we leave you at the Canberra

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unveiled a permanent display of

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You can't say that being a

high commissioner in a country like Australia is not

comfortable in some respects. I have a beautiful home to live

in and I've worked with some

very good people. But it's also

an extremely busy job. This Program is Captioned

Live. Hello and welcome to Stateline, I'm Chris Kimball.

Tonight, beautiful works of art

on canvas and sculptures of

steel ands glass. We will to the departing British High

Commissioner, the many facetted Baroness Valerie Amos about her

life and times. First, the

election and the race for the

second Senate spot in the ACT.

The polls show Labor's indicate

Lundy will be return, but

Liberal Senator Gary Humphries

is in for a tight race against

Greens candidate Lynne hatfield

Dodds. This week Stateline gave

the three candidates the

opportunity to make their pitch, with Triple M breakfast

host Ross Solly. The polling

showed one in four Canberran

are committeed to voting Green

on 21 August, which on 21 August, which shows there

is a fair momentum-in the numbers. It says that there are

a lot of Canberraians tired of

being taken for granted and

Abbott has poised at the public worried about the axe Tony

service, a lot of Canberrans

looking for

leadership in a smaller balance

of power party. You were

dismissive of the polling, but

word of mouth, does it not

reflect what the Greens poll is

showing? No, it doesn't. I'm

confident that doesn't reflect

what's going on in Canberra. The Greens have form on

producing dodgy polling before producing dodgy

an election, demonstrated in

all about one seat and on

election day it's a different story. I don't sense what the

poll says is true, but the big

poll is on the 21st. Did you

think the poll could be right?

I get a lot of feedback about

climate change. It's something Canberrans are concerned about.

I think the Greens will do it

tough in trying to wrest the Senate seat away from Senator Humphries, just because come

polling day that hasn't been

the pattern. 12 months ago,

maybe a little bit longer, there there was consensus across all

political parties that we had

to address climate change and

put a price on pollution. Since

then, Abbott has become leader, the Liberal Party have walked

away from the commitment and

both the Greens and the

Liberals voted down Labor owes

in the Senate. We are left with proposal for a price on carbon

political pretty much a mess and a

political system that was

unable to deliver a result to

tackle climate change. Are you

worried that might hurt you,

the fact that you are being

portrayed as blockers of an ETS

program? I'm no climate change denier. As Environment Minister

in the ACT I put forward

Australia's first emissions

targets, later abandoned by a

Labor Government locally. I

believe in climate change and

I'm proud to say that today, of

the major parties, only a Liberal Government Australia to a 5% reduction in

emissions by 2020. Labor's

plans for its silly people's

assembly idea will not get us

to the 5% reduction by 2020.

Is this a vote changing issue in the ACT? Absolutely it is.

I don't believe the test was set in the parliament, it's set

on the surface of the planet,

in our river systems, our soils

and our atmosphere. A 5% target

is laughable, the science clearly tells us 5% is seriously deefficient. The

Greens put 22 amendments on the table, the Labor Government wasn't interested in negotiating. We are the only

political party with a plan to

put a price on carbon in the

next parliamentary term. Representatives from both

parties have said publicly that

the puzzle have to be trim or

that efficiencies will be

found. How do you go out into

the electorate and look the

voters in the eye and say their

jobs will be safe under a

return Labor Government or a Coalition government

Greens Coalition? We know the next Budget will be tough.

Whoever brings that Budget down

will have to make hard

decisions. I think it's very

clear that Canberra will be

targeted in that process

because both sides

Government know there have to

be decisions made to reduce spending, involving the size

and vitality of the public

service. We are going to do it without sacking people from

their jobs, and I'm hoping that

we can get a consensus that

that happens in any case, that government reform will not cut

people's jobs. You will reduce the size of the public

service? Very clearly. We want

to save the equivalent of $4

million through reducing 12,000

positions. That won't all be in Canberra. Two-thirds of the

public service lie outside the ache.

public service jobs are in

Canberra, half of all jobs in

Canberra are public sector jobs and the other half of the

economy are businesses that are completely dependent or second

airily depend enas public

service for their livelihood. The axes to the puzzle impact every household and business in

the ACT. Indicate hundred day? Couple of things.

Canberran have a strong memgry

of what John Howard said prior

to being elected in 1996, which

is that some jobs would go

through a recruitment freeze

and natural attrition, so there

is no trust in the Canberra community when the Liberals

offer passive statements about

natural attrition. John Howard

said there would be a couple of

thousand jobs go. 30,000 people

were retrenched over the next

three year. I don't believe the

Liberals when they say there

won't be job cuts. Most people

expect that whoever wins

government will negotiate with

minor parties in the Senate to

get the policies through. Will Lynne hatfield Dodds face both

of the major parties, and

negotiate and compromise. There are things that have been

promised that will never see

the light of day because they will never get through the

Senate. Our experience

unfortunately of negotiating with the Greens in the previous

government is that we got very

little. The Greens say, we want

everything we have asked for or there is no deal and they are

not very good at compromising.

I don't speck to be negotiating

anything with the Greens if we

end up in government and the

balance of power with them in

the Senate. I point to our

track record in the Senate, our improvements in the stimulus

package, and the aged pension

increase of $30 a week, and

they were of immediate and

direct benefit to the

Australian population. Have

you talked to your leaders into the lodge? It is an issue

important to Canberrans, they

wan the Prime Minister to live

in the lodge. Have you spoken

to Tony Abbott, will he live in

the lodge? I have spoken to

him about it him about it and implored him to consider that very important

symbolic step, and I hope he

will, but only time will tell. You don't sound confident. He's

unlikely to leave Manly? He's going to do a John Howard. I

have said he should live in the job. Will Julia Gillard take up residence in the lodge?

Yes. Cast iron guarantee?

Yes. You have a minute and a

half each to tell the viewers

why, in just over a week, they

should be voting for you when

they go in to vote for the

Senate. First of all, the

federal Labor Party has demonstrated we are

demonstrated we are able to

keep a stable employment base in the Commonwealth public

sector, we have a blueprint to

make sure our public he sector

remains the strongest, we are

the best performing in the

world. We have an incredible

record of

Canberra communicate, with some

$280 million in capital

investment in our schools. You

can go to every single school

in Canberra and see a physical improvement in the environment,

and that's had a wonderful effect, and complements our

further policies to create

incentives for schools to

improve their literacy

outcomes. I think education

and health are very important

to the people of Canberra and our national health reform

process has resulted in tens of

millions of dollars being invested in the Canberra health

system, including a $30 million

have to travel to get the

treatment they require. I

know Canberra is a Labor town

and the Labor Party dominates

the local scene in terms of

votes that are cast, but I want

to ask Canberrans to consider

what they would lose if there

were no Coalition Senator

representing the ACT. We have a federal Labor Government, a

state Labor government and

three of the four

representatives are Labor representatives. Where would

Canberra be if it didn't have a

voice in whatever role the

Liberal Party plays in the next

government. If Canberrans don't

have a Senator, we won't be

able to access the government

and opposition of the day when

big decisions get made. If you

want smg someone to stand up

against a Labor Government making mistakes, you have to

have a person with record of doing that. You can't

have a person whose party has a

track record of supporting the

Labor Party at the state level,

territory level and the floor

of the Senate voting with the

Labor Party 80% of the time

when the two parties are

divided. If the Liberal Party

is in opposition, you still

need that voice inside the Parliament, Parliament, arguing for the

people of the ACT, when the

Labor Government maximum

mistakes, and we know that any

government makes mistakes, it

needs someone to hold them on

account, not a person who sees

themselves as the lap dog of

the Labor Party in government. I would love

Canberrans, those who haven't

decided, to think about voting

Green and voting for me on 21

August, next Saturday. I have

experience in lobbying successfully

successfully Labor and Liberal

governments as I have work in

the community sector. The

Greens stand for a progressive approach to Australian

politics, we stand for climate

change, we stand for a better

deal for people in we stand for a strong and

sustainable economy. We care

about people, we think long

term, we care about the

environment. That's why I

would like people to vote Green

in the Senate this year. Three

into two doesn't go, so good

luck to the three of you. May

it be close, so we have something to be interested in

on Saturday night. On the

wider national stage, both

Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott

were today wooing the voters of

vital marginal seats in Western

Sydney. This report on day 28

of the election campaign from

Matt Peacock. When we use

the same website, it can become

slow, what are your party's

plans for high speed network?

They are a very smart class,

aren't they? Both sides of politics

education today and both were

offering fistfuls of

dollarsment Labor is promising $354 million for Johns

training, including tax free

cash bonuses to encourage

apprentice At the end of their first 12 first 12 months they receive

$1,000, at the end of the

second 12 months, another

$1,000, when they finish Thai

third year, $1,200 and when

they have completed, $1,500.

APPLAUSE We know that

incentives to complete make a

difference, but we also know

young people in apprenticeships need that extra support and

mentoring. The coalition

matched Labor's early promise

to reward good teach wres with

a $200 million fund of its

own. We will not solve

want to put a fund in place to

which principals can apply that

will enable the best teachers

to get paid significantly

more. The argument about where

the money comes from the money comes from continues. With Treasurer Wayne Swan insisting the Coalition leader

submit his costings for treasury scrutiny by tonight,

in accordance with the charter

of Budget honesty introduced by

the Howard Government Today

we had a series of the dog ate

my homework excuses from the Liberals as to why they will

not submit their proposals to

the treasury process. They

won't submit them because there are huge cost blow-outs which

are a threat to the surplus.

All of our policies will be independently costed and the independent verdict on our policies will be

unless the government takes

appropriate action against this

criminal leak, we cannot trust

this government to do the job properly. The government's case itself seemed to be

weakened by the admission that some of its promises yet to announced also might not be

submitted. There will always

be some policies announced next week, that was envisaged in the

charter, they may or may not be costed. This morning, wanes

Wayne gave the Coalition an

ultimatum to deliver all its

policies to treasury by 5.30

today. I say to Mr Swan, why

aren't you keeping to that

ultimatum yourself? Today's announcement from Mr Abbott is

nothing or, nothing less, when

it comes to education, it's

cut, cut, cut. We have had the

gut to say, extra money but it will be affordable, because here are

the spending reductions that

will fund it. How are you?

Later in the day, Prime Minister Julia Gillard

intensified her attack on what

she called the Coalition's billion dollar cuts. What he

is talking about is cutting our

computers in schools program, so tens of thousands of kids

around the country would miss

out. He's talking about cutting our trades training centres

program. In Alice Springs, the

government announced a boost to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander controlled health

services, while the Coalition pledged to fast track boarding

schools for indigenous students

and abolish the decades old

permit system for entrance to

Aboriginal community. For a

public tired of the usual

political mud-slinging, there

came a rare note of civility to

the a debate between the Attorney-General McClelland and his shadow

George Brandis Can I say, it's

been really a pleasure to be

the shadow Minister to Robert

McClelland, because although we

have differences on issues of

substance and performance,

Robert is a decent man and has

done his best to be a competent Attorney-General. In George a praise, I have to say,

if it wasn't for George as a shadow Attorney-General, we would have had real trouble removing discrimination against

same-sex couples and their

children from some 80 different pieces of legislation and would

have had difficulty passing,

which was quite historic, a law

to prohibit capital punish.

With past Prime Ministers still

making cameo appearances on the

campaign trail, a weekend

television appearance to come

from Kevin Rudd could cut

either way. How are you? I'm

fine. All things fine. All things must end.

Sometimes sooner than you

think. As both sides gear up

for the final frantic weeks of

the campaign, it's still

anybody's race, with even the

prospect of a hung parliament,

with the Greens and Independents like Rob holding the balance of power.

The big issue for the next

three years will be stability

and whether a parliament can

deliver outcomes. The make-up

of the lower house and Upper House will be critical. The British High Commissioner to

Australia is set to leave our

shores. A little earlier than

expected, next week in fact.

Baroness Valerie Amos has been

appointed as the UN's new chief of Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordination .

The role will make lady Amos

the highest ranked British official at the United

Nations. This week, she spoke with Virginia Haussegger about her extraordinary given the change in government

in the UK, the state of Britain's relationship with

Australia. I don't think

it's changed that relationship

at all. What has happened is

that the Coalition Government

has said that there are certain

things they would like us to work on more. There's a

particular focus on trade and investment issues, for example. They want to really re invigorate the Commonwealth,

and of course we would have to

work closely with Australia in

relation to that, looking

forward to CHOGM next year, but

working with other Commonwealth

partners as well. The kind of

foreign policy issues we work

on together remain important.

From my perspective, it's very

much been about saying to

Australians, "The relationship

remains important, the relationship remains strong."

We've got some big key things coming coming up next year. Your new

role as under Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief

Emergency Relief Coordination

will make you the highest

British official at the UN, and

put you in the top five UN

jobs. Has this been a position

that you have long could

havested? No, not really. I

have long thought about working

in the UN system. I think

people become frustrated by the

UN system sometimes, but the

reality is that if we didn't

have it we would have to create

it because obviously it's

better to have an institution

which helps us to promote

peace, rather than to have

conflict. I think the UN is incredibly important. I want

to ask you about your career trajectory, which has been

extraordinary. You have smashed

so many ceilings. It doesn't

feel like that when you're

doing it. But you have. The

first black girl to be deputy head at the school

The first black family to move

into the suburb in Kent you

lived in. The first black

woman in Cabinet, the first

black woman to be the leader of the House of Lords.

Constantly pushing boundaries.

What motivates you to do that?

I think the way I was brought

up, my parents were very, very

important in who I think we

became as adults in my family.

We were migrants, immigrants

from a country called Gyana in

South America, a former British

colony, but my parents always

said education is important, it

opens up the doors to many

things and if you work hard,

focus on your education and

doing well, basically the world

is your oyster. People who

know me will say, if you put know me will say, if you put an

enormous challenge in front of

me, I'll leap at it. How important were ties when you first as a young

girl encountered racism? They

were incredibly important,

because you go home and you

would explain an incident, and

my parents were very important

in terms of that it wasn't really about us,

and it was more about other

people, and work with us to

ensure we didn't take these

things personally. It was

incredibly important. I

remember, when we first arrived

in the United Kingdom, my

sister and I went to our first

primary school, we came back

and had been put into the

bottom class, and we explained

that to my mum, and she was at

the school the following day

and said, what is the basis on

which you made this decision

about my children? Always

challenging, but challenging in

a way that enabled a positive

result. Your personal life has

been very different from women's experiences. You have

never married, never had

children. They are contentious

issues in Australia, as Julia Gillard well knows, those

issues have been discussed at

length about whether or not

it's possible for a woman in a leadership position or a powerful position to be unmarried and childless. Have

you endured that kind of

scrutiny yourself? Of course.

All politicians come under scrutiny, not just the women.

Particularly about the fact that you are

that you are not married and

childless? There are particular issues around women

who don't have children and

aren't married, and of course I

have faced those. You face them

from family, tooment at the

beginning of your career, people want to think that you are going to have the kind of

family life that they have had,

and you are going to have

children. I love children, but

I have nieces and nephews and I

have lots of God children, and

particularly felt that I needed

to have my own children. Do

you have any regrets that you

didn't go down that path? Is it

something you see as a cost or

consequence of your career?

No, I don't. I feel it's - it's

not even a particular choice I

made right at the beginning. As

I said, I've always loved

children, I enjoy being with children, but I have never

thought they had to be mine. I haven't regretted that. Again, I've never got to the point

where I thought, this is a

person I particularly want to

be married to, so I'm not married. You made a very striking speech on international women's day in

Sydney, when you said - I thought I was rather brave. It

was a very brave speech and a

very teamly speech. You said poverty has a woman's

do you think it is that there

has been such slow progress in achieving gender equality in

developing nation? It depends

what you look at. If you look

at Rwanda, they have the highest proportion of women this parliament of any country

in the world, they have my

numbers of women in Cabinet.

But if you look at some of the

poorest countries and look at levels of maternal mortality,

what happens to children, it's

women who are bearing the brunt

of that, and so few of those

women have access to any kind

of resources or any kind of

money to help to improve the

economic circumstances of their families. If you are a

developing country government

and you cannot even provide

water to your citizens, you

can't provide electricity, you

can't provide the basics of

life, really putting women at the heart of agenda is not necessarily the

first thing that you are going

to do. Your new role at the

UN, I know it's too early to discuss your plans, what

excites you about that role?

It's a job in which you can

just make a huge, huge difference. If you think about

what is happening right now,

what we are seeing on our screens every single day, in terms of the flooding in

Pakistan, for example, this is

something that the UN agency

that I will be running from

September has an absolutely key

and central role in terms of trying to bring all of the different actors together,

working with the government of

Pakistan, working with the

NGOs, working with donors and

others to have a coordinated

and effective response in that

crisis. It's not an easy thing

to do. The infrastructure has

been washed away, it's a long

way away from cities. You are

having to make a particular kind

weather is against you. But if

you get it right, you save

millions or thousands of lives.

It's very immediate. Of course, when I was asked if I was

prepared to be nominated for

it, I jumped at it. It's a

huge, huge, huge challenge. But

I can't think about anything

that would be quite as

rewarding as getting this

right. Baroness Valerie Amos,

thank you very much for your

time indeed. Thank you.

That's the program for this

week. We will leave you with the paintings of Archibald Prize winning artist Judy

Cassab and the sculptures of

her son John Seed, which are being xbted at the Solander

Gallery in Yarralumla. Enjoy. Goodbye.

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