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(generated from captions) So I ask: is Swan just softening us

up for new taxes on those terrible

rich?! Speaker Peter Slipper is

meant to uphold parliamentary

standards. He was holding a press

conference this week on the

Sunshine Coast when a report asked

him about his amazing expense,

nightclub areas. including late-night taxi rides to

REPORTER: Do you expect to release

any details from the Office of the Speaker? We need to go, sorry.

I would love to know more about

those huge expenses too. But

Slipper walked off and a Slipper

adviser threw the reporter's mobile

phone into a bush. Peter Slipper

said that he didn't see the

incident and wouldn't condone it.

But, Mr Speaker, order! And some

answers about those expenses. A

year ago today, an earthquake and

tsunami hit Japan, killing nearly

terrible 20,000 people. It was a terrible,

terrible tragedy.

But, adding to the terror, was the

shameless fear-mongering by

activists and the media over a

nuclear re-yactor, if you can

sheikh ma, disabled by the tsunami.

If they really blow, hundreds of

thousands of Japanese will be dying

illness. within two weeks of acute radiation

It was claimed that Japanese

workers of Fukushima would die

before our ours. We know not one

person at Fukushima has died from

radiation exposure and not one

person has a dangerous dose

according to United Nations

investigators. The scaremongers

were completely wrong. Remember

that the next time the media tells

you to panic!

And that's the show. Thanks for

watching. As usual, we invited on

Julia Gillard and several of the

minister, especially Wayne Swan and

Stephen Smith, but, as usual - well,

never mind. 'Meet the Press' is

next, and it has Immigration Minister, Chris Bowen.

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Hello and welcome to Meet the Press.

The political tug of war over boat

people took a sharp turn. Our giant

neighbour refusing to play ball

with any Australian plan to turn back the boats.

If you take that policy, you are

putting out the boats to Indonesian.

What about our cooperation? The

legal home of these vessel,

Indonesian-flagged and crewed,

Indonesian-ported, is in Indonesia.

All the boats should be turned back.

The ambassador met with the

Liberals' Julie Bishop. They said

it was not actually what Tony

Abbott's men. She explained to me

that in the coalition, they consult

tpwarted Labor solution. John Indonesia. They enforced the

Menadue said there is no end game

with Nauru, it would not be a

building block as Malaysia would be

in an effective regional

arrangement. His reviews, like the

Government's, was rejected. It is

the policy of the Opposition that

they want to see more boats. I

understand that it is because that

is their policy, that I will oppose

any legislation.

Immigration Minister Chris bow enis a a guest. LMNP leader Campbell Newman will

join

Good morning. Labor launches its

Queensland election campaign today

but LNP leader Campbell Newman

could upstage the event. He is set

financial to make a statement about his

financial affairs.

I'll be starting with an

announcement on 'Meet the Press'. A

galaxy poll shows Mr Newman is

trailing in the seat of Ashgrove

with the incumbent, Kate Jones,

three points ahead. The NSW Government will announce major

education reforms today with

rather than experience. teachers to be paid on performance

The changes will allow principals

to hand-pick staff and include

or disadvantaged areas. incentives for teaching in remote

The flood crisis is easing in parts

of senior Australia. In NSW,

residents in the Riverina poked

today relieved that levees held

against the swollen Murrumbidgee

River. In Victoria, floodwaters

have dropped in the town of

Nathalia gnat. And one year on from

Japan's worst f ever earthquake and

tsunami, mourners have gathered in

Sendai. Nearly 19,000 people were

killed as a giant wave crashed over

the countryside. The night before

the anniversary, 20,000 fireworks

lit up the sky. Those are the

headlines this morning.

Welcome back to the program, Chris

Bowen. Good morning, Minister.

Well, the stalemate over the

Malaysia solution - there's no end

in sight, is there? Well, look, the

Malaysia agreement is a huge step

forward, as John Menadue said

during the week. We have

legislation before the parliament.

The Opposition appears hell bent on

blocking that. We have tried to

negotiate with them in good faith

to see that legislation passed. We

will continue to prosecute the case.

The other point is, of course, Paul,

we don't - we are not the only ones

with legislation before the

parliament. Mr Oakeshott has moved

a private members' bill to allow

offshore processing. That shows the

sort of good faith that people can

bring to the table. Mr Oakeshott is

an Independent member saying that

both sides support offshore

processing. We will be supporting

Mr Oakeshott's bill, for example,

as a significant step forward. The

Australian people want this sorted

out. They say both sides of

politics support offshore

processing and should be able to

vote for it. The bill in one sense

is stating the obvious. But can I

put it to you that the Malaysian

solution is a dead duck. Even if

Labor wins the next election, it

won't control the Senate, the

Greens will have the balance of

power and you will be blocked there

as well. So don't you have to start

all over again, rethink this? Well,

Paul, what we have got here is an

agreement with Malaysia where

Malaysia says, "We will work with

Australia to implement a deterrent

to offshore - to boat arrivals in

Australia." There is three differences between Malaysia

agreement and turning back the

boats. A, Malaysia has agreed...

But UN can HCR has said it is

workable and turning back the boats

is not. C, Malaysia can be

implemented without endangering the

lives of the service personnel. We

will argue for the types of

arrangements that we have

implemented and will continue to

point out that we need a long-term

regional solution which removes the

incentive to come to Australia by

boat, and involves Australia

resettling more refugees from

around the world, just as the

Malaysia agreement did. Now, we

will put that case. If the Liberal

party is saying this they won't

respect the mandate of the

Government, if we are re-elected

and continue to block it in the

Senate, that is a matter that they

will need to justify to the

Australian people. Of course in the

meantime, it is the onshore

processing that is the go. Early in

the year, Tony Abbott was quoted in

the Australian as saying that core

policy forebroader protection is

turning back the boats. This

morning, the Shadow Minister Scott Morrison brushed aside the Indonesian ambassador's concerns

about that. We have had a strong

relationship with Indonesian over

the period of time we have

implemented that policy. I have the

same confidence about our ability

to achieve this again. Well, the

argument is pretty straightforward.

They did it before so I that can do it it again?

Well, what we have got here is an

Opposition in denial. I mean, the

Indonesian ambassador's powerful

intervention is the latest in a

long line of indications from

Jakarta that they do not support

the policy of turning back the

boats and they will not cooperate

with it. The Prime Minister of

Indonesia has said it himself. The

Opposition just shrugs their

shoulders and says, "It will be

alright on the night, we will sort

it out." They are in denial about

the fact that Indonesia will not

cooperate with this policy. Mr

Abbott says he wants a foreign and

migration policy with more of a

focus on Jakarta than Geneva.

Jakarta has said, "No, we are not

going to cooperate with this

policy." Are you saying that when

Tony Abbott says, "We will turn

back all the boats when it is safe

to do so", he is using political

weezle words? We have seen Mr

Abbott all over the shop on this.

He said that he would have a boat

phone, at Kirribilli, giving the

orders. Now we are told it is an

operational decision for people on

the grounds. He beats his chest

saying, "We will turn around every

boat, a major orstep forward." The

deputy leader of the Opposition

says to the Indonesian ambassador

says, "You don't need to believe

that, we will talk to you about

which ones we turn around and which

one we don't." They are in denial

about the unworkability of this

policy. They are in denial when the

navy and brorder protection says

Australians will risk their lives,

when it says it will breach of

interventional conventions, and

when they say, "We are not going to

cooperate in this regional policy."

They say, "Don't worry about it, it

will be OK." Well, it won't. It is

time for a break. Labor's

leadership crisis seems an eternity

ago. Is that the end of it? Joe

Hockey has caught the bug.

Extravagant public displays of

affection with his wife, Lisa, Mr

Newman warned people to expect

plenty of pashing. I would kiss

Campbell Campbell Newman!

What would you kiss for Campbell

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You are on Meet the Press with

Immigration Minister, Chris Bowen.

And welcome to the panel, Mark

Kenny from 'The advertiser' and Stafanie

Stafanie Balogh.

Kevin Rudd told us what he really

thought about the Gillard

Government's asylum seeker policy.

He describeded the East Timor

solution and the Malaysia solution

as a walk on the policy wild side.

It wasn't K-Rudd or anything to do

with the East Timor solution or the

Malaysia solution. The Minister for

Immigration was so convinced by the former Foreign Minister's arguments

on this that he decided to vote for

him in the caucus! He decided to

vote effectively against his own Malaysia Malaysia people-swap.

Minister, as Scott marries son has

a point - you voted for Kevin Rudd

in the leadership ballot. You were

voting against your Malaysia

solution? No. The leadership ballot

was obviously an entirely different

matter about entirely different

issues. I think Kevin was in the

context of arguments around the

leadership ballot and allegations

against him making a broader point.

The Malaysia agreement was taken

through the Cabinet processes. I

proposed it. I'm proud of it. I

believe in it. It was taken through

all the normal and necessary

Cabinet processes. With Malaysia

solution, are the Malaysians still

on board. How long do you expect

them to be patient while this drags

on? I mean, that I cannot be

patient forever, can they? Well,

the Malaysian Government is

committed to this. I remain in

regular contact with my counterpart.

They see it as a significant step

in breaking the business model.

They understand Australian politics

and they are sympathetic to us and

the obstacles in our way. They

remain committed to this and to our working with the Australian

Government to implement it if we

are able to pass our legislation.

Mr Bowen, back to the leadership

question. Now it has been resolved

is that being fully put to bed? Do

you guarantee, for example, that

Kevin Rudd won't at any time in the

future be leader of the Labor

Party? The matter has been resolved.

The Labor Party had to make a

decision, and then stick to that

decision. That is my very firm view.

The Labor Party made the decision.

We now stick to that decision. We

support the Prime Minister. We all

work for her, we all provide our

all in making sure that we put the

best case forward for the next

election. That is my clear position.

It is the position of the Cabinet

and the caucus.

Given the leadership issues, one of

the third-party candidates names is

Stephen Smith. He is under heavy

fire from the Opposition and the

Defence. It is a good look for a

minister to be at war with his

department? I don't accept the

premise of your question in linking

it to a leadership question. I sit

with Stephen Smith on the National

Security Committee of the Cabinet.

I talk to him almost every day. He

believes in our troops. He supports

our troops and he respects our

troops. Any suggestion to the

otherwise is wrong. Now, Stephen

Smith, I think, took a courageous

decision last year in relation to

the so-called Skype affair, to make

sure that a young, vulnerable woman,

received the necessary protection

and support and defence from her

minister. It would not be a

universally popular thing for him

to do. We have a minister with the

courage and the passion that

Stephen Smith brings to this

portfolio. He doesn't mind making

tough decisions and he doesn't see

himself, his role, as being the

most popular Defence Minister in

Australian history, but he does

respect our troops, supports our

troops and it drives him - and I

see that every day of the week -

when he goes about his daily duties.

The Government is preparing for an

extremely tough budget coming in

May. Your department, obviously,

experienced some expenditure

blowouts over managing the justify

shore program and so forth. Are you

preparing for cuts as well as everyone

everyone else?

Well, like every other minister in

the Government, I have to justify

my budget to my colleagues through

the expenditure review committee

process. We have a very robust

process. We have had since we came

to office. As we should. Every

minister has to justify every

dollar worth of expenditure and

every minister in a tough fiscal

vierplt has to contemplate which

area they should cut. The

difference in the approach that we

take, as opposed to the Opposition

- they will need to bring in

swinging cuts, they won't tell us

what they are, they say, "Well, we

will have a commission of audit

after the election to fund what are

very significant black holes." I

mean, they have a $70 billion hole,

the equivalent of the age pension

for two years, and yet they say

they will be able to do that - well,

they have a very big fiscal

credibilty problem going forward.

There is a strong argument,

especially put by the Greens, that

onshore processing is cheaper than offshore processing. Will you be

saving money in the next year? No.

The ultimate way to save money is

to have offshore processing because

it is the deterrent to coming to

Australia by boat in the first

place. OK. Yes, offshore processing

can be expensive. If it is done

proper, and it is a proper

disincenttive, it is a proper

disindentive and you don't have the

costs going with the number of

people arriving. The Greens don't

get that argument. They are in a

completely parallel sort of

arrangement when it comes to this.

They don't accept that offshor

processing saves lives and is a proper deterrent if done properly.

Coming up: the Queensland election

shaping as a knockdown drag them

out fight. Liberal National leader

Campbell Newman joins us.

Cartoonist Moira suspects Joe

Hockey was taken in hook, line and sinker by Wayne Swan.

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is that the humblest billionaire

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You are on Meet the Press. Today,

Labor officially launcheds its

campaign in Queensland. Frontrunner,

Campbell Newman launched his

campaign, confident that the ageing

laiing has run out of electoral

steam. Queensland cannot afford a

Canberra experiment. But Labor is

relentlessly targeting the would-be Premier's financial affair,

accusing its opponents of promising

the best Government money can buy.

Mr Newman is prepared to put

himself and the financial interests

of him and his family ahead of

Queensland. Mr Newman told the

people of Queensland that he

complied with the rules. He said

that he has shares in the listed

companies that Mr Newman owns. Well,

it is good morning and welcome to

the program Campbell Newman.

Hello, Paul. Reading the 'Courier

Mail' and 'The Australian', some of

the editorials think you have

questions to answer on your

financial affairs. Now is your

chance. Well, thank you very much

for having me. It is great to be

here as well, with Stephanie and

Mark. Let's deal with this in three

- I have three points to make. The

first one is I have totally, fully

and openly declared everything that

I own. My wife owns, and indeed our

broader family interests. I've been

in public life for seven years.

Then a year as the Leader of the

LNP. There has been no illegality

or impropriety. We have seen from

Labor the dirtiest, nastiest smear

campaign. There is nothing to it.

So today, what I'm announcing to be

absolutely clear for the people of

Queensland that I'm doing this

because I want to get the state

back on track. I'm going to do a

couple of things - one, completely

sever my financial ties,

essentially, to my family and Lisa

is servering her financial ties to

her family and divest all of our

financial interests, within 90 days,

if I get elected as the Member for

Ashgrove and the Premier of

Queensland. The final thing I'm

saying is my challenge is this to

the Premier - being open and

transparent, there is nothing at

all about anything that I've done

that I'm embarrassed it. Isn't it

time that the Premier focused on

the issues about getting this state

back on track, because Queensland

has some huge problems, which, of

course, I would like to talk about

this morning. Mr Newman, some of

the details were in the 'Sunday

Mail'. Labor is saying that you

have given yourself three months to

get your affairs in political order

- if I can put it that way.

Ministers or Cabinet ministers in

the Bligh Government have to do it

instantly. Well, actually, Paul the

bottom line is, again, I've opened and transparently declared

everything, complied with the laws.

I've done that for many, many

months, as the Lord Mayor of

Brisbane. Last year, Andrew Fraser

referred me twice to the Crime and

Conduct Commission - you know what?

Twice I was cleared. There is no

investigation over Campbell Newman.

I've gone many miles out in front

of Labor in terms of my commitment

to be a Premier that people can

trust and have confidence in. I'm

doing this because I want to serve

the people of Queensland. I have

their interests at heart. Not

because I want to any personal

financial reward. I need to get

this state back on track. I have a

plan to do that. I've got a strong

and united team behind me. Appearances are important in these

sorts of matters lfplt you ban

political donations from developers

if you are successful at the election?

Well, the Labor Party have never

done that. And I don't propose to

do that. Labor has done it in NSW.

I believe it has been done in NSW.

It is critical - well, I believe

that the point is that you need to

declare the donations. You need to

actually make sure that there is an

open and transparent process. We,

as an LNP party, have always

complied with the law. One of the

things about the campaign is that

no-one is asking any tough

questions of the Labor Party. They

have an urban land development

authority they set up a few weeks

ago, which takes a big chunk of

arrest - real estate and puts it

into a secretive planning process.

Someone should be looking at the

donations from landholders and

particularly property developers to

the Labor Party. Do you have

allegations to make in relation to that?

Well, I've made these allegations

before. Someone should go and look

at it. Again, the Labor Party have

successfully to date run up a very

strong, negative smear campaign.

They have nothing left or talk

about in terms of getting

Queensland back on track. I mean,

we have $85 billion worth of debt

in two years' time, a $2.8 billion

deficit. The only mainland state

without a AAA credit rating.

Unemployment is 5.7%. WA's went to

4% this week. The Labor Party, you

mentioned there, says that the LNP

is a wholly owned subsidiary of

Clive Palmer. What is your answer

to that? LNP is not. It is an independent organisation that is

led by myself and, again, I'm

saying to people today, with this

announcement, that I'm my own man,

acting in the interests o of

Queenslanders. ALP - a fully owned

subsidiary of the union movement,

continues to receive huge donation,

rigging the electoral laws in this

campaign, so that multiple unions

can spend masses amounts of money.

You made the point that you lead

the LNP. In the wake of the gax

poll saying that you would lose

Ashgrove can, you give a guarantee

that no LNP member elected will

step aside to allow you to be

parachuted into the parliament if

you miss out on Ashgrove?

Absolutely, Stephanie. I make that

guarantee. The other point I make

is that in that circumstance, we

have not even won government. I

give that guarantee. Interestingly,

my opponent, former Environment

Minister Kate Jones, responsible

for the huge mess that is coal seam

gas and for a new waste tax that

they said there wasn't going to be

prior to last election and then

introduced, my opponent gets on the

phone and rings people and tells

them that that is what is going to

happen. I'm happy to put that to

bed today. You have put that to bed.

A big question - if you are not

elected, isn't it about time you

let everyone, not just

Queenslanders, in on the secret of

who the back-up Premier would be if

you are not elected. Is that a

decision for the faceless men in

your own party? Well, I get asked

this a fair bit. Here is my view.

You are asking me for a political

view on the election. There are

many seats, just like Ashgrove,

where Labor MPs are digging in,

removed the Labor brand from their

brochures, from their signs, from

billboards and they're campaigning

that somehow they were not part of

this dud government, which increased...

But it doesn't go to the point of

who would lead the LNP if they are

elected but you don't win Ashgrove.

Stephanie, if I can just answer. I

need to provide the context for

people, particularly from

interstate. There are all these

battles going on just like Ashgrove.

My point is this - we will not win

the state election if we don't win

Ashgrove in seats like just like it.

It is a tough battle in Ashgrove,

but so it is across Queensland.

Toowoomba North, Kevin Shine, was

pretending he was not part of the

decisions of this Government, that

he didn't - he was trying to

pretend that he wasn't part of a

broken promise on our fuel subsidy

scheme which sayed they last

election it was staying. Only a few

weeks after they got back in, they

removed it. This is what it is

going on. Unless we win seats like

Ashgrove, we will not win

Government full stop. People can

vote for change, to get rid of a

tired, 20-year Labor Government or

vote for the same dud government

again. What priorities, should you

win the election as the polls are

suggesting, would you give to

repealing the civil unions act?

Look, this is a bit of a side show

event in terms of what we are about.

I have a plan that I've been

working on for the first 100 days.

I can tell you now we are looking

at at things...

A repealing the civil unions act

won't be in the first 100 dis? It

is not a priority for me. I've made

my position clear in the past.

Labor have played a cynical

political game on. We need to get

the state back on track.

Economically and financially, those

are the issues that are really I'm

focused on and the team are focused

on. Thank you very much for joining

us today, Campbell Newman. All the

best in the next two weeks. Thanks

to Stafanie Balogh and Mark Kenny.

A script and a erp replay of this

program will be on our website and Facebook page. Until next week, goodbye.

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