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(generated from captions) mileage out of it last night,

and there was a bit of a exchange between Julia Gillard

and Kerry own own, now we

stop. It seems there were

factional leader who were

responsible for the leadership

spill Bill Shorten and David

Feeney were I strement

strumentle in the push to

elevate Julia Gillard to the

top job. Did the factions put

Julia Gillard into the job? I

can understand the media have a

need to try to put a structured

narrative around this, but I

don't think the event of

Wednesday were nearly as well

organised as people mightage. I

don't think this was a

factional push, I think it was

more organic. If you look at

the various facts set out in

the accounts in the various

newspapers, what really was

happening was that over the

course of the week a number of

people from a number of

different places were coming to

the view, as Julia Gillard

expressed yesterday, that the

party was losing its way and it

needed to be put back on track

The action that occurred on

Wednesday night needed to be

takenment it was more organic

than a structured push. Surely

the speed and efficiency in

which it happened would

indicate that this was Labor

Party factions at their true

efficient best? Again, I think

the role of factions is greatly

overplayed. It happened

quickly, there is no doubt, and

it was a surprise to many that

the decision was being made, or

the proposition was being put

before them. I think everyone

knew that this was a decision

that had to be taken quickly,

and that's not a position that

was held by just the factional

leader, that was a view that

would have been shared by every

member of the caucus, it was

shared by Kevin Rudd himself.

So it was decided to move as

quickly as possible. What came

forth on Wednesday night was a

decision about needing to put

our government back on track,

so as to ensure we will win the

next election and ensure that

work choices doesn't come back

and the services Tony Abbott is

threatening to cut won't be

centres and schools will cut, that trade training

continue it to be there. Is it

not true shorten and Feeney were instrumental in what

happened? The media followed

Bill Shorten as he was on the

phone. What do you believe his

role was? I think David and

Bill had both formed a view

that action needed to be taken,

and there are various accounts

of that in the media. The sense

that is sometimes portrayed,

that there are a few people in

a dark smoke filled room making

the decision and everyone falls

in line, isn't what happened at

all. Everyone was confronting

the decision that was being put

before them, everyone knew the

stakes that were at play,

everyone knew how important it

was for the people of Australia

that this government wins the

next election, to stop Tony

Abbott from becoming the PM,

and to ensure that Work Choices

does not return. We all knew we

needed to do this quickly.

Wednesday night was a very late

night, not just for Bill and

David but for everybody in the

caucus, and Thursday morning

was an early morning , which is

why we all have dark circles

under our eyes. One last

question on the factions the

be watching the line-up of clearly the commentariat will

Cabinet for the fingerprint of

the factions. What do you

believe should happen? Do you

believe Bill Shorten may get a promotion? In terms of the

line-up, I think Julia Gillard

made it very clear that she

will make a decision based on

merit. She has made it very

clear that this is not a

process of handing out goodies

in order to get votes, in order to get votes, that's

not what occurred on Wednesday

night, and I have utter

confidence that Julia Gillard

will frame in her future years

as the PM of this country a Cabinet which best meets the

needs of the needs of the Australian

people. I don't think you will

see any factional fingerprint

at all. Again, having known

Julia for a very long time and

worked with her in a previous

life at Slater and Gordon, I

know she will be absolutely her

own person and make up her own mind. The question of Bill is

a separate question, but he is

an enormously talented

politician, and I have known

him for a long time as well.

Bill will make a great

contribution to the country.

One day he will be a minister

and when that day comes he will

do a fine job The

consideration of the two issues

will be done separately. Do

you believe Kevin Rudd should

stay in the Cabinet? That is

ultimately a matter for both

Kevin and Julia. To be honest,

it's a matter which probably

should not be considered today

or tomorrow. What we have gone

through is an incredibly

emotional experience. 24 June

will go down in history as many

things, and undoubtedly one of

the things it was was a

profoundly sad day in terms of

what happened with Kevin Rudd.

I don't think my caucus would

mind me saying that after Kevin Rudd made his speech in the

caucus, there was a standing

ovation and a heartfelt sense

of appreciation for what he had

done as the Prime Minister of the country. But it was

obviously a very hard day for

him. Similarly, 24 June is a

historic day for the nation and

it was a fine thing indeed to

see Julia Gillard enter the

house of representatives

chamber for Question Time as

our country ace first female

Prime Minister, as the strong

person she is. I feel very

excited about Julia's Prime

Ministership, I have no doubt

that, as hard a decision as

this has been, there was the

right decision. I think

questions about Kevin's future

and role in future governments

are really questions that need

to be worked out by those two,

once the raw intense emotion of

the last few days disappear.

Richard Marles thank you for