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(generated from captions) is Health Minister Tony Abbott his opinion on euthanasia to talk about hospital funding, Good morning to you, Tony. Good morning, Tony. Good going on, Tony? The State's morning, Tony. Good morning. What's

ministers met last week to discuss hospital funding, and they invite you. It's outrageous! I hospital funding, and they didn't

plenty of the health minister. We invite you. It's outrageous! I see

have health two or three times a year. have health ministers conferences

always have civil enough constructive enough discussions. always have civil enough and

But yeah, last Friday's gathering was an all-Labor affair. I think their idea of ending the blame game is to blame everything on the Federal Government - certainly coming out of last Friday, there states doing anything better - it was all about extra things would have thought it would have Federal Government should do. I

been smart if you wanted extra you would have been doing a fair money from the Federal Government,

bit of sucking minister. Well, so far, bit of sucking up to the Federal

hasn't been too much of that! And I'm not sure that sucking up to Federal minister is necessarily something that the general public really want to see. Well surely it's not going to hurt! Well, look, all I want -- all I want is a reasonable, relationship with the states. look, while there is always a lot relationship with the states. And

of argy-bargy about the Federal Government funds hospitals, but it doesn't run hospitals , behind the is actually quite a lot of constructive dialogue, both at a ministerial level an official level. As I ministerial level and certainly at

it, the Federal Government funds the nation's hospitals to the tune of 50%. The State ministers are saying that's declining is that true? Um, certainly over the last significantly increased their hospital spending. And as the hospital spending. And as a result, Government has dropped from about that comes from the Federal

48% to about 44%. So true. But let's face it - the it runs the PBS, it funds aged care Federal Government it runs Medicare,

homes. The in homes. The Federal Government puts health spending. in about 60-70% of all Government

it's a question health spending. So I don't think

our it's a question of us not pulling you our weight. Does that mean it's as get saying that they're not going to

money to agreements under which we do give

course of this year. They come up for renegotiation in the

the middle of next there'll be all the middle of next year. And so

discussions there'll be all sorts of formal money discussions about the quantum of delivering it, starting from money and the mechanism for

midyear. delivering it, starting from about system is so much problem in our public hospital

I system is so much lack of money as structures I think, frankly, management desired. structures that leave a lot to be year, desired. Tony, being an election Will you Medicare levy is c Will you take a look at that,

your point. But the average wage now. Look, I take

about here is the Medicare levy on additional levy, take out private ever have to pay entirely a voluntary be avoided by people who don't entirely a voluntary levy. It can

it. It's extraordinarily expensive, be avoided by people who don't like

though. It's not a You have to pay the levy or you though. It's not a voluntary levy.

have to pa-- have to have private health insurance. Yes, but I if don't like paying the levy, get private health insurance. The don't like paying the levy, get the

beauty of having at it that is, only does it give you some extra choice and some extra it also helps take the pressure autpublic hospital waiting lists. insurance Everyone with private health opportunity to have that elective procedure done in a hospital rather than waiting in queue to be treated as a public patient at a public hospital. $50,000 is very unlikely that you can afford private health insurance. It's $50,000 for singles and $100,000 for families. And, um, I think that, given the importance of health, and given the benefits our system of more people having health, and given the benefits to

private health insurance, I think it's a justifiable position. Alright, Tony, we'd like a bit good new - we'd like to Alright, Tony, we'd like a bit of

you're going to spend more money on, good new - we'd like to know what

please. If you look at the projections, we'll please. If you look at the forward

lot more on everything. We'll be spending more on expepsive new drugs. We're constantly athnew items to Medicare. We've just put new midlife health check item on items to Medicare. We've just put a

Medicare.. We're practice nurse items onto I think you can be confident that, practice nurse items onto Medicare.

one way or another, health spending is going to continue to increase strongly. But as long as there are rigorous cost-effectiveness tests applied to what we spend in health, that's going to produce a healthier, more productive and, ultimately, a happier population. Will you be -- will you have a closer look at issue of euthanasia? We conducted a poll here on the program the other day resoundingly for euthanasia 93%, I think we that. The population seems to be I think we had - something like

resoundingly for euthanasia. When it's such a popular issue and many it's such a popular issue and so you avoid that in the Parliament? I think it depends what you mean by 'euthanasia?' If 'euthanasia' is not going to extraordinary measures to keep people alive, I anyone has any problem with it at to keep people alive, I don't think

all. If people who would all. If euthanasia means killing

I think it's a very serious problem. We're talking about living in pain We're talking about those people

illnesses. living in pain with terminal wrong with giving people illnesses. Yes, but there's nothing

possible pailette of care. But possible pain relief and the best

there's between pain relief and there's a world of difference

people. And no-one , thanks between pain relief and killing

people. And no-one , thanks to modern modern medicine, should die in pain. Because Because we have the drugs now that can available. Tony, that's a personal opinion of yours. general, the polls seem to say about 70% euthanasia. How do euthanasia. How do you then balance up your personal opinion with up your personal opinion with what the rest of the country thinks? the Federal Parliament actually voted 1997? When we supported the Andrews Private Members' Bill to the Northern Territory's euthanasia laws. So the Federal Parliament has quite quite recently considered this whole euthanasia question. It was a Territory. So I'm know you like to refer to spaceship Parliament. It's been a very interesting couple hasn't it? You're taking a hasn't it? You're taking a belting in the polls. We've seen the Prime Minister stumble a little Minister stumble a little - certainly yesterday, his comments with regard with regard to American domestic politics were surprising. How's the vibe in the Liberal Party at the moment? Oh, I think we know we're in for a very tough fight. years are always tough. And obviously Kevin Rudd is obviously Kevin Rudd is enjoying quite a pronounced electoral honeymoon. honeymoon. But sooner or later, Kevin will have to have some real policies - novelty value and platitudes won't carry you through to polling day. I think he's got God on his side, hasn't he, Tony, according to you? As according to you? As the Catholic captain of the Liberal Party, you'd probably know he does have God on his side. Well, it's funny how Kevin has been wearing his religious heart on his sleeve lately but look, the point - to win an election, you've got to have serious policies. And Labor's policies at the moment to policies at the moment to the extent that they can be are to whack an enormous tax on industries like the coal in the name of stopping greenhouse gases. And at the same time, to tear up the workplace relations laws that have created something like 250,000 new jobs in just months. So I think when people start looking at the real impact of what Labor's on about, the Kevin bubble might burst. Can I just talk to you quickly about - new year to you quickly about - new year in Parliament, we've seen a couple of new stars emerge - Mr Garrett, Mr Turnbull. A lot of people in the Liberal Party referring to Liberal Party referring to Mr Turnbull's inauguration in Parliament, I suppose you could say, as being a little barrister-like. What did you think of his performance? Look, Malcolm is a real talent. There is no doubt about that. I thought the extraordinary pressure people are under in that cauldron and the debating chamber of the Parliament is a cauldron - I thought was a real parliamentary debut. And the thing about Malcolm is, he's a very learner, and learner, and I think he'll just keep getting better and better. So it's true, then, that you gave him a few quiet tips it? Look, one of my jobs is ... Is that a yes? One of my jobs is leader of the house. And I'm leader of the house. And I'm often offering offering my colleagues advice. They don't always take it, I haisen don't always take it, I haisen to add. And sometimes when add. And sometimes when they take it, it doesn't do them that much good, because I'm just as fallible as everyone else when as everyone else when it comes to trying to judge the mood of chamber. We were chamber. We were talking before about opinion polls and the about opinion polls and the fact that that Kevin Rudd is certainly having a bit of a terribly important but discount popularity, either. That's true. But in the true. But in the end, people do not elect a beauty contest. They elect a Prime with Mr Howard!... what they're going to going to do for the country. People were to become prime minister?" Now, we know what sort future, because we've got an 11-year record to judge him on. unknown quantity. He's really got very little public record. facto premier of Queensland under premier Goss. ministership in 50 ministership in 50 years. Well, we'll Thank you for your Thank you for your time, Tony. Always Always lovely to talk 82 too you. Thanks for welcome any time welcome any time on our show. The PM is PM is always looking for a good opportunity opportunity to talk to the Australian people. We'll look forward to seeing him soon, forward to seeing him soon, then! Next