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(generated from captions) which continues to batter the region the seven key crossbench senators Nick Xenophon is one of the Federal Opposition's call who's joined $42 building stimulus package to properly scrutinise the proposed this morning from Canberra and he joins us is about to start for the second day. where the Senate inquiry Good morning, Senator.

Good morning. Why the Opposition or

why the questioning? There are

plenty of people saying, let's push

the package through. Why do you

think it needs to be discussed

more? I think Australians don't

want rubber stamping. We know what

happened with rubber stamping a few

years ago and that's not good for

democracy. The Senate has to be a

watchdog, especially for a big

piece of legislation like this. $42

billion is a massive amount of

money, and I guess it is like, you

wouldn't want to buy a $42 billion

car unless you looked under the

bonnet and you also want to make

sure that it's going to take you

where it's men to. What was the

initial reaction when you heard of

the proposal and were you aware

that it was coming? I don't think

anyone was aware. I think it was a

closely guarded secret. We heard

from the Senate inquiry that the

package, the documents only went to

the printers at 6am on Monday

morning and it was anounsed on the

Tuesday, so it's been happening

quickly. My reaction is that

something has to be done with the

worsening global financial crisis.

Australia needs to do everything it

can to insulate Australia from it

and to help families, to help mums

and dads out there who are really

struggling in these very tough

times. But the question is - is

this the best way forward? Is this

the best structured performance.

Is there a particular area of

concern for you? Look, I've got an

open mind. I don't come to this

with an ideological position. The

Opposition says no, the Opposition

says yes. I want to get all the

fact, I want to look at the fact, I want to look at

evidence and we've got a full day

of hearings today. More hearings on

Monday and by Tuesday or Wednesday,

hopefully we'll be dealing with it substantially. So the sorts of

concerns I have is, is it better to

give a lump sum, a cash handout or

do you give smaller amounts by way

of tax cuts? Dop you spend the

money on improving electricity and

water infrastructure for instance,

or do you spend it on building more

school halls? These are the sorts

of big arguments as to what will

give the best benefit to the Australian economy in the short,

medium and long-term. Do you think

that the Government has fully

investigated the effectiveness of

this proposal at this point? Well,

I guess it is the Senate's job to

do that, it is the Senate's job to

inquire into this. There were a lot

of questions put to Treasury last

night and Ken Henry is a very

impressive pub lib servant. I have

a lot of respect for him, but from a lot of respect for him, but

my point of view, the more

questions that were answered, the questions that were answered,

more questions I had because we are

talking about a big package, a

complex interaction in the economy

and the core question for me is -

what's best for families in z

Australia to see us through the

tough times? The Greens have made a

typo, they've made plenty of that,

is that important or a sign that

perhaps this as been rushed through,

or are they being slightly

pedestrianantic? I think it is the pedestrianantic? I think it is

second one, Kim. I think it is a

case of - if you rush things

through, mistakes will be made. A

typo in itself isn't fatal but it

can indicate the speed at which

this has been put together and

that's why it's very important for

the Senate to do its job and be a

watchdog for Australian families to

ensure that we have the best

possible package. Nick, you must be

feeling pressure. I mean, should

you've been one of those to go the proposal not go through and

against it, the Government will

surely paint you as the person who

with held all of the money from

Australia's working families. We

haven't got to that stage, but

that's what I'm being paid for, to

make decisions and ultimately I

need to be able to live with my

conscience on an issue. If I feel

that it's the right thing to dorbgs

I'll do it. But at this stage, we

still need to hear the evidence,

still need to work out what the

best thing to do is. Personally, to

what extent do you worry about the

decisions that you have to make?

Well, I do worry about them deeply,

and I don't have too many grey

hairs now, but who knows what will hairs now, but who knows what

happen in a week's time. I don't

know if there will be too much

sleep. But I don't want the Senate

to repeat what the House of

Representatives did by sitting until

5:30. Legislation by exhaustion.

That's a dopey way to make laws for the nation.

Good on you, keep the bastards

honest! And we of course will have

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