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(generated from captions) Returning now to the rev of

Australia's high, education

system - Bradley Review the

report warns Australia is

falling behind other countries

in education. Christopher Pyne

join us us from the ABC's

Adelaide news room. Good

morning. Good morning. What

to you is the most significant and important recommendation

out of this report? That the

funding from government should

follow students rather than the

institution-centric. That's a

principal the Coalition

supports. And was moving in

that direction in terms of our

policy development. So the

Bradley Review suggests there

be a student centred model of

funding rather than an

institution centre model of

funding and we are also of the

view the bureaucracy that

surround os hider education has

been a noose around the neck of

higher education. We welcome the deregulation of

universities to the extent they

will be able to offer the kind

of courses students demand. So

it is demand driven. The point

of vouchers as they have been

called in the US and that

phrase is used in the report as

well that allow students to

take the funding with them

whenever they go, it has been a

contentious topic in the US and

in Australia here. We have

never embraced the idea of a

voucher system. Where will the

opposition stand on that now? I

have never been able to

understand why there has been

opposition to student-centred

funding model. In New Zealand there has been a

student-centred funding model

for some time. There are lots

of different ways of providing

vocher, there is a pure model

of vouchers which is one the

opposition would necessarily

embrace, which would allow a

voucher to be paid to a student

and the student chooses which

course they want to go to.

That can lead to a glut of a

certain kind of graduate and

not an investment in areas

which would not otherwise be

attract ive to students but properly administered and

carefully managed, a

student-centred model of

funding means that it is demand

driven. So universities have

to keep on their toes and

provide the kind of courses

students want. It is industry driven because courses are

driven by the employment that's

available in the marketplace

and also governments have ways

of ensuring that the kinds of

degrees we need to occur at

universities like physics and

mathematics and other degrees

that are more pure degrees will

continue to be offered with

different kinds of modelling. The executive summary of the

report that I have read is

clear when it talks about just

how Australia has lost ground

and that within the OECD we are

now 9th out of 30 in the

proportion of our population

age in that young group with

qualifications needed to go on

to work well in the workforce.

Implicit in all of this is a

criticism of the more than a

decade of the Howard Government

neglect of the tertiary sector.

How much responsibility should the former Howard Government

take for the state of

universities now? Well look I

don't see any great point in

looking backwards. I know Julia

Gillard the minister for

education peppers every one of

her statements with blaming the

former government for the

current situation in many

different areas, There is

responsiblity to be taken if we

find outseveral s so far down

the pecking order. There is

some point in pausing just for

a moment in taking some

responsibility? Quite frankly,

I could point to dozens and

dozening of Pam tells where

the Howard Government was

leading the world in terms of financial regulation and financial management. Just not

this one. Looking back and

playing the blame game which

Kevin Rudd promised he wouldn't

do but that is not taking

responsibility and looking

forward. We are 9 the out of

30. That still actually in the

top third of country the in the

OECD in terms of population

that have undergraduate

degrees. And looking back and

blaming the Howard Government

for things really is a

pointless exercise. We need to

be looking forward. The Bradley Review I think has

really useful and interesting

recommendations. The Coalition

wishes to examine closely.

Some of which we will heartly

embrace, others which we

probably need to seriously

consider impacts on for example

regional universities, it will

be very interesting to see how

much the government can

actually do with the Bradley

Review because of course there

isn't any money in the

cupboard. The cupboard is

baefr dear, the government is

going - bare. The government

is going into dev of defendant

- deficit and Bradley suggested

$6.5 billion over four years.

It wouldn't surprise me if it

was a great deal more than that

and where will the money come

from since Labor has spent it

on thing lines sweeteners for

local government. And other