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This program is captioned live. from Odyssey House, Achording to James Pitts

for alcohol misuse one of the risk factors who abuses alcohol or drugs. is a parent of Australian children And statistics show that 13% drinking by at least one adult. are regularly exposed to binge a glass with and a glass after So, does a glass before dinner, an alcoholic or at risk? make us a binge drinker, their new online questionnaire James joins us to explain he level of our dependence. which helps to identify of the Swivel Sweeper, Following the success

No, it doesn't. I think that one of

the issues that has come up

recently because there's been a

review of the drinking guidelines

by the National Health and Medical

Research Council in which they have

reduced the recommended daley

intake of daily alcohol from four

standard drinks for men down to two

standard drinks and the same thing

for women. So I think that most

people certainly realise that when

they're drink ago glass of wine

before dinner and a glass of wine

after dinner, they're not

necessarily at risk of becoming a

binge drinker. But if they're doing

it every day, is that a problem? I

think that there's a recommendation

that previously, that the limit

force, the alcohol intake during

the week was 20 standard drinks. If

in fact the guidelines are accepted,

that will be reduced to 10, so I

think that you really then have to

look at it from that stand point. I

think that council, and from

talking to one or two members, what

they wanted to do was come up with

a level that was the minimum, not

the maximum but the minimum. So

that's why they reduced it to two

standard drinks. Realistically, you

say two standard drinks but if

we're pouring our own glass of wine

at home, we're probably all pouring

a bit more than a stand glass? I

think that you know, when you look

at the size of glasses and

depending especially if you look at

a red wine glass as opposed to a

white wine glass, then certainly

you would get some disparity. So in

some cases, it has actually been

demonstrated that a glass of wine

that you pour yourself may be as

much as one and a half to two

standard drinks. All right, this

new online questionnaire that

Odyssey has put out, at what point

does it indicate - at what point do

we realise that we might have a

drinking problem? There are so many

things to take into account,

obviously but at what point? If you

talk... I'll get to the survey

quickly. But I think that when

someone has a drinking problem

there, are two or three things to

be conscious of. Whether or not

your drinking supersedes a lot of

the other activities that you

participate in, such as meeting

with friends, social outing and

things like that. Whether or not it

starts to imping on your ability to

do your job, and thirdly, whether

or not you engage in activities or

risky activities that are related

to your drinking that somehow

disrupt your normal life. The disrupt your normal life. The

actual survey was developed as part of an initiative by the Alcohol and

Drug Councils of Australia of which Drug Councils of Australia of

I'm a Board member. And every year, we sponsor an initiative called

Drug Action Week. And for the first

time, at Odyssey House in NSW, we

found that the people coming into

our program, the rehabilitation

service for the first time in

history indicated that alcohol was

their principle drug of concern. So,

as opposed to illicit drugs like

ice and heroin, alcohol was

nominated as the principle drug.

So, that's changed? Changed

significantly in the last 15-20

years. Why, do you think? I think

that one of the things that we

found is that certainly, not only

in the surveys that we've done

inhouse, but also a survey that we participate in which is the

National Drug and Alcohol Research

Centre in NSW called the Alcohol

Treatment Outcome Study, what we

found is that people who started

drinking at an earlier age, usually

starting between 12 and 13. And I

think that now, alcohol is just

available. I think that you see now

and I was reading a survey that

came out earlier today that was came out earlier today that

done by GlaxoSmithKline in which

they indicated that binge drinking

was much more prevalent amongst the

older baby boomers than it was the older baby boomers than it was

young people. But I think young

people, when you're talking about

binge drinking, that they would

probably drink more at one sitting

than adults would over a

significantly longer period of time.

I gets the obvious question at

I gets the obvious question at this

point is, is the Government's

alcopop tax working? Look, I think

it is early days and I think it

depends on who you listen to. If

you listen to the alcohol industry,

they'll say there's a significant

increase in the number of people

who are now drinking spirits. That

doesn't necessarily mean that

that's a bad thing, because a lot

of the intake in purchase of

alcopops is not necessarily, while

it was directed somewhat at younger

people, there is certainly a

significant number of older people,

adults who also drink alcopos. So

we need a breakdown of the age

groups? It's only been two or three

months so you really can't - you

can't make a determination. I

would say that it would be at least

a year and if you get the data, I

mean the alcohol industry has data

but everybody releases their data

selectively to make their case. I

think that over the next year, that

we should be able to have enough

data to be able to determine

data to be able to determine what

the real picture is. Should we look

at a tax across the board on all

alcohol? I think one of the things

that we have been advocating as an

industry is that as opposed to

taxing particular segments of the

alcohol industry, it would be

better if we taxed it across the

board. Oh, people will be outraged

by that, aren't they? I think that

one of the things that we found that certainly works is that

certainly the taxation, certainly

reduces alcohol consumption. Where

you actually place retail outlets,

you know, if you can actually

spread them out as opposed to

having them concentrated so that

you need those things in order to

work. And licence fee. That's right,

those things. By the time someone

comes to you, at Odyssey House for

help, I guess they already realise

that they've got a major concern.

But, there are certain factors, that would identify the probability

in a younger person before they

have the problem, if you know what have the problem, if you know what

I mean? There are some things.

There's been research to indicate

that one of the factors that one of the factors that

contributes to youth drug use and

certainly that includes alcohol, is

what type of supervision is available immediately after school. In other words, who is there to

watch out for the kids when they

come home from school because

that's the time when they're more

likely to get into trouble. The

other thing that contributes is the

age at which somebody starts to

smoke is a very good indication.

Because if somebody starts to smoke

at 12 or 13, it's been proven that

then they're more likely to be able

to smoke certainly cab abyss and

other types of factors, so --

cannabis and other types of factors.

Are bad drinking behaviours from

what you know, a learn behaviour do

you think? Do you learn that from

your parents? In this survey that I

was talking about earlier, one of

the things to be conscious of while

we talk about young people drinking

at risky levels. That adults have

to be very conscious about their

own alcohol intake. Kids mimic what

they see their parents do, so they see their parents do, so while

we were talking about a glass of

wine before dinner, a glass of

wine before dinner, a glass of wine

after dinner, but if you look at after dinner, but if you look at it

from this stand point. If you have

a glass of wine or two before dinner

during dinner you have a couple of

other glasses and after dinner you

might have a port or some brandy or

something like that, you know, it

adds up to a significant amount.

And one of the things - you have

children, and I'm sure that one of

the things that children are really

good at is that they have a memory

like an elephant so they will watch

parents to see exactly what you're

doing so that it serves their cause when you try to chastise them. And

they say, what about the fact that

you must have drank probably eight

or ten glasses of wine the previous

evening. It is fair to say that

Australians seem to see alcohol as

something other than a drug. Even

when we're talking about it, you're

saying drugs including alcohol

because we don't seel seem to see

alcohol as a serious drug, tpwu

really is. What people fail to

realise and we certainly, Odyssey

House and the Drug and Alcohol House and the Drug and Alcohol

Council of Australia ran a campaign

called Alcohol is a Drug Too. If

you take all of the I will ils it

drugs, the cause of all of them, certainly it is not as much certainly it is not as much as

alcohol. Alcohol causes the

community $115.3 billion a year as

opposed to $11 billion for all

illicit drugs. So people often

discount the fact that there are

illicit drugs and then alcohol when

in fact that they're drugs.

in fact that they're drugs. For

people coming into Odyssey House,

do they see it as - this is

probably the wrong word, but do

they see it as freing to know that

their alcohol is actually a their alcohol is actually a serious

drug problem. That it is not

treated as something lis than

important or less than say heroin

addiction? I think that over the

years we've been more conscious of

making the point that all drugs

are a prosh. And also, you can link

very often again in the treatment

outcome study that we did, that the

drug of first intoxication is drug of first intoxication is

alcohol. Usually between 12 or 13

in our population, I think that one

of the things that you start to see

is that people are starting to

drink at a younger age. Again, the

survey that came out with GlaxoSmithKline indicated that the

baby boomers usually started to baby boomers usually started to

drink at 17. But nowadays, people

are starting to drink between 12

and 13. That's also the group

that's much more likely according

to a survey by Pfizer and to a survey by Pfizer and the

National Drug and Alcohol Research

Centre that is more likely to go on

and develop problems and long

alcohol dependence. If someone

comes into Odyssey House and you

recognise in them a major alcohol

dependency and the dangers

associated with that, how

associated with that, how

difficult is it for them to give

up? To rehabilitate? And is

rehabilitation successful? Look, we

can say, not flippantly, but people

who come into Odyssey House with

drug problems don't have drug

problems when they come into the

program because there's no drug use.

The hard thing that people need to

understand about rehabilitation is

that you really have to try to

address the issues that underpin

peoples' drug use. About two thirds

of the women who come into our program have been program have been sexually abused

before the age of 11 and about 30%

of the men. They have high rates of

exposure to domestic violence. 60%

of the men who come into the

program, their biological fathers

were absent by the age of five

years old. Lots of re-location,

there are a lot of factors that

contribute to the person's drug misuse and those are the things

that you really have to address. And it is a difficult thing And it is a difficult thing to do.

More from the stand point, if you

look at the cor laigs between when

somebody zarts their drug use, like

as I said, between 12 or 13 and by

the time they get to us they're 26

or 27 years old. So you have a

significant period of time where

someone has been engaged in

compulsive and dependant behaviour,

and the challenge for us is that

funding agencies and the Government

wants people to get "better" as wants people to get "better" as

quickly as possible and it doesn't

work that way. So the longer they

spend in rehabilitation, the better

chance they've got. That's right.

The correlat oirbgs n is that the

longer you stay in treatment, the

better the outcome. And we tend to

see alcoholics, the general

population looks at alcoholics as

someone who is on the street and

staggering down the street, and the

fact is that there are alcoholics

in every single socio economic

group. That's right there, are a

lot of people who are dependant on

alcohol who manage their lives in

some ways or appear to manage their

lives in some way until there's a

crisis which occurs and it is only

then that they tend to get

assistance. I'm feeling depressed.

Inmean, is it out-of-control! I'm

sorry. Is it out-of-control. I mean,

alcohol intake. Kids are starting at 12

at 12 and 13. It seem

out-of-control? Well, I think in

some sections it is out-of-control

and certainly if you look at and certainly if you look at the

scene here in Melbourne and in scene here in Melbourne and in

Sydney, if you talk to people working in the accident and

emergency departments, every

weekend, you have pockets and this

is what I mean about the

concentration of outlets. In our

case in Sydney along George street,

you know the theatre district, down in the in the opinion rocks, you know

right on Argyle street, there are

places where people tend to

congregate. Then when they get intoxicated they spill out into

the street. They don't have

anywhere to go and sooner or later

there's some kind of conflict with

somebody in some alcohol related

violence. And of course, the great

tragedy in all of this is the

alcoholic effect on young brains

when they're still developing. You know,

know, one of the big initiatives

now in the alcohol and drug field

is a lot of research about brain

chemistry and things like that. And

certainly, one of the factors - a

woman at a forum we had who has

done a lot of work, and what they

demonstrated is that one of the effects on

effects on adolesent brain

development is that it affects a

part of the brain that fails to detect, say like facial expressions.

So one of the things that happens

is that when somebody, a young

person is drinking, they may not be

conscious of the fact that somebody

else is aggravated and so they

continue. It certainly affects

their short-term memory and it affects their

affects their - you know, they're

already really impatient and it

impings on their ability

impings on their ability for executive decision making. So

there are a lot of things that

contribute to the whole aspect of binge drinking and youth violence

and things like that. Look, it is

very sobering, and if you want to

do that survey, you should jump

online. You can access our website,

and you'll see a link to alcohol

insight and you can take the test.

It is called the alcohol use

identification use which is widely

used in the industry, sponsored by

the World Health Organisation,

scores automatically so you can

find out if you or someone you're

concerned about may be drinking at

harmful or risky levels and then

there are lings to other sites there are lings to other sites

which provide some assistance and

hope to those people who are interested. It is very interesting

because some of the questions are

very specific and ask you to look

within. Yes, do your friends tell

you that they think you have an alcohol problem. Those sorts of

questions. Thank you for having us.

We'll be right back after this. Following the success of the Swivel Sweeper, James is back to have a look at how you can remove stains, scuff marks, spills and spots from all of your floors.

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After the break, latest from the

Ten News centre. And still to come,

usm FOs and the little green men

that drive them. We'll discover why

more and more of them are heading our way.

This program is captioned live.

News now and for the latest, we're

joined by Natarsha Belling from joined by Natarsha Belling from the

Ten News centre.

Good morning David and Kim. Heading

our news this morning, a strong

earthquake has rocked Los Angeles,

again raising fears of the

so-called-xig One. Geeologists have

warned that an earthquake capable

of causing widespread destriction

is 99% certain of hidding Los

Angeles in the next 30 years. This

one caused buildings to sway for

several seconds in downtown LA. There were

There were some evacuations but no

reports of any major damage or

injury. We'll cross to our US

correspondent Nicole Strahan for

more on the story in the news.

A new research claiming that

smacking and yelling at your children can cause mental health

problems. Researchers have found a

dramatic increase in children as

young as three suffering young as three suffering anxiety

and depression. They say that

parents who lash out are to blame.

And more details have emerged about

the incredible reunion of a lion

cub and its owners. 30 years old.

Isn't this the most amazing vision.

This has become an instant Internet

sensation with 6 million hits.

Christian the l oirbgs n cub was

raised in London. When he became

too big, he was released into

too big, he was released into the

wild. Several years later, the

owners wanted to find him and

experts said that the lion would

attack. Christian was so overjoyed

to see them, he also introduced

them to his wife, as you do! All of

those details. We played that those details. We played that a

couple of weeks ago and I showed it

to David before we went on air and

it brought tears to my eyes. I teared up too. teared up too. It was very

emotional. And I kept thinking, I

hope it is not a fraud because it

was so lovely. What else have you discovered. David and I were

talking about - I've lost my thing.

Women drivers. And how men hate to sit next to them when they're

driving. But the last line said,

when reversed, most male drivers

said they couldn't handle being

corrected by women. I was also

reading in the paper this morning reading in the paper this morning

that 40% of men said that they

would call their divorce lawyer if

the partner corrected their car

knowledge. I don't think that knowledge. I don't think that you

two are taking this seriously

enough. It is a big issue. My

nickname is ebay because I've

taken a lot of hits in car accidents! Are you a shocking

driver, are you? I've got my

talents in other areas. Apparently

it is always the other it is always the other peoples'

fault. But you have to be careful

when you're pregnant and I remember

being pregnant and I couldn't turn

around and I reversed straight

into Simon's car in the front of

our house and left a great big ding

in it. Thank you, Tarsh. See you at 11:00.

And plenty more coming up for you

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to explain how Bodytrim could give you the designer abs you've always wanted. Hi Geoff! Good morning, Marianne.

That's exactly right - designer abs.

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I am. Exactly right. What you're about to hear might change your life. Doing crunches and sit-ups not only don't work for losing weight, they actually thicken your abdominal wall and push your stomach out. While they do definitely strengthen your abs, it's the timing and type of food that melts the fat. But Geoff, really, why should people believe these claims? It is a good question. See the designer abs on screen? Very nice, yes. They actually belong to me. Oh, really?! That's why you can trust me, and believe the claims, because I'm a product of the product, honestly. If you've got a weight-loss goal, then you have to give Bodytrim a go. Take it from me. Look at the proof without one sit-up. Remember, deep down, you've got designer abs. Just melt off the fat with Bodytrim and you're good to go. Alright, Geoff. How do people get their hands on Bodytrim? Call today, call now.

If you're one of the first 500 callers you can receive a 30-day free trial of Bodytrim at my risk and see for yourself. That seems like a rather generous offer! There's no way anyone can possibly understand how powerful the Bodytrim experience is until they try it out. Let's face it, there's lots of people out there who've tried to lose weight before only to be left feeling disillusioned and disappointed. See for yourself and trial Bodytrim for 30 days, and then make up your mind. If you're one of the first 500 people to call with your credit card you can put Bodytrim to the test for free. The only up-front cost is a postage-and-handling charge of $9.90. If you're not satisfied, that's all you pay. Simply return the program to us within 30 days.

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Astronaut Edgar Mitchell publicly

stated last week, had they been

hostile, we'd all be gone by now. We'll examine the ongoing

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This program is captioned live. They drive saucers, they make art out of fields of corn, they escort 'Apollo' astronauts to the moon. They even engage certain humans in extraterrestrial intercourse. They exist, ladies and gentlemen. Aliens and their flying saucers and they're visiting earth in increasing numbers.

I happen to be privileged enough

to have been in on the fact that we

have been visited on this planet.

And the UFO phenomena is real,

although it's been covered up by

the governments for quite a long time.

Dr Mitchell is the latest in a

series of astronauts to break ranks series of astronauts to break ranks

and publicly support the existence

of extra terrestrial life, and even

though his superiors at NASA have

distanced themselves from his

claims, there are too many

questions. Usm FO-ologist George

sichson joins us now. How

significant is it that he's come

out and said this now? Because of

his credentials basically. Because

he has a degree in and he has a degree in and ro physics

and air owe nautics. He's one of

the only 12 human beings that's

been to the moon and back. That's

if you believe that the 'Apollo'

mission ever happened. Don't get me

starreded. Have you seen UFOs? I've starreded. Have you seen UFOs? I've

had sightenings myself, many over

the yeerls. Different things that I

can't explain, definitely. Like

what? The most recent one, you

couldn't even photograph it if you had a

had a camera. I was on the cordless

phone in the driveway on the

letterbox and I looked down the

street and there was - a dusk and

the object flu across the end of my

street. This was about three or

four years ago and I couldn't four years ago and I couldn't focus

on it. It was about the size of a

minibus and I could describe it -

it was like a football sort of

shape and it had a non-defined edge. I couldn't focus edge. I couldn't focus on it, it

was a black mass with no lights and

it made no sound. It. Flying at

about tree top level and it wasn't

going very fast and it was just

going along the tree tops at the

end of my street in Chelsea. How

bizarre. People have sightenings.

People talk about sightenings.

There are those that seem them and

people who have sightenings, people who have sightenings, do you

realise that there's genuine. There

must be a point that you realise that they're seeing something

because there must be a common algy.

The circumstances of the case might

have something to do with it.

There's a lady who lives in

Edithvale who saw something go over

her house about 12 or 13 years ago

and she described this thing being

the size of a football field and it blocked the

blocked the entire sky, her view of

the sky out and from where she first saw it heading towards her

and to where it went overhead, she

and her husband when out in the

backward to watch it go over. That

means that it went right over my

place too but unfortunately I

wasn't home. But people have

sightenings and sometimes it is

very big. How often is it

happening? Very good happening? Very good question. Look,

it varies. The last couple of years

have been quiet but it is starting

to pick up. There are times when we

get 200 sightings a month. The

group that I'm a part of, I run the

Victorian chapter of it. We

sometimes have up to 200 sightings

a month reported. How many aren't

legitimate? About 80% of legitimate? About 80% of them are

people misidentifying normal things.

A lot of people have no idea about

astromony and they see a planet

coming up. Conopus, the star

Conopus, it often confuses people

because it keeps changing colour.

It seems to just sit there and

change colour, and it confuses a

lot of people. It is lot of people. It is interesting, we

we saw Edgar Mitchell and Buzz

Aldrin who revealed that they Aldrin who revealed that they were

accompanied all the way to the moon.

Well, he did a bit of back pedalling

after it I think. Why are they

doing that? I think they're not

really allowed to talk about it.

Inside sources in NASA say things

like that it is common knowledge within NASA that they're within NASA that they're not

allowed to talk about it. Roswell

is well known even outside. We had

a visiting NASA scientist here

about 12 years ago and he's written

several books about U fsm Os but

I'm not going to mention his name,

but why I won't mention his name is

because I was auto tape recording

the entire session when he was

giving his talk and somebody asked

a question and said, what do you think

think about the search for extra terrestrial things in America and

you have the scientists with radio

telescopes trying to hear something

out in space trying to hear

communications between aliens or

something. Well, this scientist

said to the head of SETTEE, what

would you say if I said, you guys

are actually in contact with ETs continuously for continuously for years ae said,

George, turn off the tape. He made

me turn off the tape and he gave

the answer and the reply was - the answer and the reply was - do

you want me to tell you what he

said. Yeah. He said, well, I would

say you're a fairly intelligent sort of person if you thought like

that. Indicating that they are.

What are they doing here? Who knows.

Look, it's a big universe. Look, it's a big universe. There's

autumn kinds of reasons. They're

not necessarily all from the same

place. No, the universe is huge.

Are people seeing inhabitants of

the flying saucers? Are the flying saucers? Are people

meeting whatever it is that drives

the thing here? Look, there are

some very, very interesting cases

about close encounters and

about close encounters and extra

close encounters that have happened.

Yes, the guy in

Yes, the guy in Brazil. The guy in

Brazil, very well known case and

well documented, it's been in all

of the books for years and a very

similar Australian case happened

here in Sydney. We're talking about

sex? See, if they're doing genetic experiments, if they're interested

in our genes and genetics, it all

comes down to gamets and that

doesn't it. It is fascinating. We've got some vision from We've got some vision from NASA

here and I want you to explain what

we're seeing here. This was an

experiment. That straight line that

you see is what's left of an

experiment that broke away from the

shuttle but all of those other

things that you can see in the

background flying around, we don't

know what they are. And NASA has

never commented on that except that

it was a bit of debris that flies

around. If you look at some of them,

they're flashing on and off as they

go along. See the little go along. See the little flashing

ones. This is - now, this footage

is from a different mission.

Something big pops up out of Something big pops up out of the

clouds and goes off, there's

lightning storms. One of the

astronauts onboard that shuttle

when it was filmed, Storey Musgrave, he's one of the most intelligent

people. He collects degrees as a

hobby, I think he has hobby, I think he has about 35

degree or something and he saw that

when it was happening. Now, he's

not associated with NASA any more

and he gives astronomy lectures and

at the end of them, he shows a

photograph of the typical alien,

and he says, these guys are real -

I guarantee it. So that's another

NASA person saying, this is real,

stop laughing and take it seriously.

Why don't NASA reveal what's going

on? Is it the classic mass

hysteria? If you're working for

NASA, you've got to do what you're

told by the bosses. If you break

out of NASA, you can start talking.

Edgar Mitchell, he has the world

record - I don't know if you can

actually call it a world record,

but he spent the longest time ont

moon, it was about a nine hour walk

on the moon's surveys face and he's

now 77 years old and some people are

are saying, look, he was on the

moon for too long obviously and it

affected his mind. He's a perfectly

sensible person and he's got the

credentials and he's saying it.

Storey Musgrave is saying it. In an

around about sort of a way, Buzz

Aldrin is saying it. We're all

waiting for Neil Armstrong to say

it. But he hasn't said a thing. If

you were the first person in history to walk

history to walk on the moon,

wouldn't you want to talk about it. Try getting an interview with Neil

Armstrong, see how far you get. You

mentioned little grey men. Is that

confirmed? Are there people around

the world who can - who are saying

the same things about

identifications? In every culture

and every language. Look at the

Aboriginal culture, they accept it.

The star people come down and

sometimes steal. So, they're grey?

Exactly what Dr Mitchell said, he

said they come in here. If they

really wanted to delete the human

race, that would have happened by

now. So, we probably don't have too

much to worry about but we don't

know what their motives are. Where

are the hot spots in Australia?

Well, just everywhere. There are some

some places where you might -

Witcliffe Wells in the NT, a lot of

sightings there. It gets a bit

loopy you know, people plaster the

things with alien things and that.

Look, it might be min min lights,

some of it is serious lighting that

you have. But we get reports all around the world and all over

Australia, you know, it's not just

America, it's it is America, it's it is all over

Australia too. I'm just stunned that

you would look down your street and

you would see this thing that you

couldn't focus on properly. Yeah,

it was just a black blob travelling

along. I had a sighting with a

friend of mine, we were star

grazing in the early 70s and I saw

this thing go from one star to

another and it stopped and it

started at one star to another and it

it when on and off, and I went to

the planetarium to talk to an

astromoner to describe it and he

said, that's impossible, it can't

happen. It's like I saw something

travelling at the speed of light

from one star to another and he

said, no, it must have been

something else, it couldn't be what

you saw. But I know what I saw. You

guys at the Australian UFO Research Network,

Network, I believe that people

would bring you storys of the

sightings. At what point can you con

genuine sighting? OK, most people

don't go out of their way to make

themselves appear crazy. Present

company excluded of course. The

funny thing about it is that the subject does attract subject does attract the odd loopy

and faker. Some people get a kick

out of trying to fool people, even

some of the smartest Australians

have tried to make fun of the

subject. To see how far people will

take it. What do you look for take it. What do you look for to

confirm? I've spoken to so many

people on the inside that are

scientists and people who had these

sorts of reports given to sorts of reports given to them and

I don't need any convincing. You

reach a point where you've seen

enough and then the NASA footage

came along and you look at that. I

laughed when I saw that, all of the

things flying around. So many of

them. Really, in the last century,

it was good to ridicule and laugh

and have fun with the subject. It's

time to take it seriously. Time to

look at it look at it in a different life.

We've got more of 9am on the way,

including the reasons why your

moggy is sneezing and wheezing when you're around. after a 5.4 magnitude quake struck the city. A number of buildings were damaged, but there are no reports of injury.

NSW is about to introduce the harshest anti-smoking laws.

Cigarettes must be hidden in supermarkets and parents will be fined for smoking in cars with children. And tens of thousands of people rally in support of alleged war criminal Radovan Karadzic.

The fufplt. O e-mails are starting

to come in and let us know if

you've had any e-mails. This is

from Merrill Ann and she says "as a

perfectly normal rational female, I

would have to say with all of the planets in the known planets in the known universe and

who knows how many to be discovered,

we would have to be ego tisical to

think that our planet is the only

one to be inhabited". Simone said,

I've just been watching the segment

with Dr John Irvine, I applaud your

effort to raise awareness of

families in my situation. I'm a

sole parent of a 15-year-old and I

was dieg nolsed with a rare neurological condition three years ago which

ago which changed every aspect of

my life and seriously implicated

my ability to work. Very isolating

and I'm fortunate to have an

extremely supportive family. I

worry all the time about the impact

that my new lifestyle has on my son

when he comes home from school and

I'm in bed, noi this will impact

who will who he will be as an adult. It

It often takes all of my power to

get up, it is the knowledge that it

will affect me for the next 40

years. I worry for the future of my

son and hope that he can reach his

full potential and see me as a

strong person, rather than a sick

one. That's a very powerful e-mail.

Thank you so much for sharing it.

We'll be back after this.

Today we're joined again by Faye from Budget Direct, who says she has some exciting new news for motorists. Now, if you own a car,

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As Kim quaithly coughs up a fur

ball, I'll put the question to Dr

Julie Summerfield, is asthma

contagious. Can we cause asthma in contagious. Can we cause asthma in cats. We'll

cats. We'll discover why so many cats are asthmatic next.

You sit down to watch the

television, but the cat keeps

trying to hack up a fur ball. He's

all hunched up and making a hell

of a scene and it's happening every

night. Do you put him outside to

fend for himself or call the vet.

Dr Julie Summerfield joins us to

explain why your taby is

struggling to breathe. Now, we're

talking about asthmatic cats. How

common is it? It is pretty common,

about one in a hundred cats have

feline asthma and that's the number

who are dieg nolsed and the

symptoms that you described could

be a fur ball, but it is quite

often what people describe when the

cat has asthma as well. So, if it

is happening, a fur ball, you know,

I don't have a cat. But a fur ball occasionally occurs but if it

happens all the time. Or you could

try treatment for a fur ball and if

that doesn't work, you could look into whether it

into whether it is asthma or not.

Asthma is not easy to diagnose and

often times, it is ruling out

other things like infections and

like fur balls and you can get

parasites in the lungs as well. So

if you rule them out but the real

diagnosis is response to steroids

which is an anti-inflammatory

experience. So just like severe

asthma in people, cats respond to

steroids. Why do they get it? It's

an allergic problem just like in a

lot of humans. They may react to

some sort of environmental

pollutant, say smoke or for example.

Cigarette smoke is a big trigger in

cats. Perfume and chemicals.

Pollens, dust mites, all of the

things that affect us can affect

cats and they're sensitive and so,

all of the little glands inside the

bronchi overproduce and it causes

an obstruction basically so they

have difficulty breathing and

that's why they wheeze and cough

and gag. Can you catch it from a

human? No, although viruses can

trigger it, it is not a contagious

condition, it is allergic. It is

sometimes genetic, it is more

common in siamese and

common in siamese and himalayan

cats and it tends to happen in

middle age. So not real young and usually it happens before they're

really old. One to eight years. Oh

yes. I know, this is Anthony, isn't

he gorgeous. He's... Tony! He's a

domestic medium hair so he has

slightly longer hair. A very slightly longer hair. A very flash

breed there. He needs a home, he's breed there. He needs a home, he's

from the RSPCA. How old is he? He's

five years old and desexed and

looking for a lovely home. What

happens if you manage to get your

cat directly diagnosed as having

asthma, how do you treat it? It is

episodic. In between episodes they

can be normal. Steroids. Do you

inject them? Tablets usually or

injections because it can be life threatening and going back to the

symptoms, they can have the

wheezing, you might not even notice

it at first but it develop into

sinosis which is blue gums or open

mouth breathing and extending the

neck. We have footage of a cat

having an attack just to o show you

and at first, owners might not

realise and they might think that

it is a fur ball. That is the cat,

you can see that its neck. Looks

just like a cat trying to cough up

a fur ball. And it is gagging and it

can be life threatening and we use

oxygen therapy as well. Really?

Yeah, we use oxygen cages if

they're in real respiratory

distress because they're not getting

enough oxygen, that's the problem.

Hang on, just go back to the cage.

Do you have the cage in the house

or is that at the vet? That's

usually at a vet. I mean, people

who have long-term issues might be

able to do that at home, but

there's safety issues which having

oxygen tanks in the house so it is

usually a vet thing and broncho

diallators. What, like a puffer?

They open up the airways and make

it easier to breathe and there's a

picture of a cat. You can buy it

online, it is similar to the

paediatric spacers that people use

for asthma. And obviously don't try

any of that without supervision of

your vet because we use different

medications sometimes. So, there

are treatments out there and in

between the cat could between the cat could be fine. between the cat could be fine. You

can do that. So, explain that to me.

If you have an asthmatic cat, it's

going to be episodic, it is going to be episodic, it is not

going to be there all the time?

Yeah, it depends on the triggers.

It kb sees onal? Yeah, and some

people only get asthma with viruses

in winter and it can be the same

thing and a diegnosils as I said,

we would start by doing blood tests.

There's certain markers for

allergic conditions. X-rays and we

can take samples from the lungs and

you can try steroids and if it

works. Diet? Um, food, if they have

food allergies that could trigger

as well. Anything and we're seeing

more of it probably because there's

more environmental pollutants as

well in cities and things like that.

If they're having an attack, it can be

can be life threatening, so, what

do you do? Get to the vet really.

And once you know how to manage it

and look for the symptoms early,

you can treat it. But don't muck

around with things like that,

respiratory distress. That's respiratory distress. That's the

other thing, stressing out a cat to

take x-rays and that can kill them.

Really? So you want to minimise stress. If they're having trouble

take not guilty oxygen normally and

you stress them out, that can tip

them over the edge. We don't want

to frighten. At what point, at what

point do we realise that it is not

just hacking up a fur ball, if it

is constant? I think if it is

constant or the symptoms are getting

worse and you think that the cat is

having trouble breathing. That's

the time to get the cat to the vet

and they can make a call on what

the best treatment is and then it

is something that you can probably

manage at home. And Anthony manage at home. And Anthony here

from the RSPCA. He's pretty relaxed.

He's all right and looking for a

home. He is. Ork, he's chosen you.

I'm actually very allergic to them.

So am I. He would probably give me

asthma. That's the other thing.

People can give their cats asthma

because they can be allergic because they can be allergic to

human dander. There you go. We'll

be back after this. Coming up next - an earthquake rocks Los Angeles. A number of buildings were damaged, but there are no reports of injury. Tough new anti-smoking laws to be introduced in NSW. Parents will be fined for smoking in cars

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