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Relatives of Australian twins

shot in the head fly out to the

US to identify them. Senate

anger. It Federal Government

refuses to release its NBN

business plan until next

month. The EU plays down talks

on helping Ireland out of its financial Australian boxer Danny Green

successfully defends his IBO

cruiserweight world title.

Good morning. It's Thursday,

16 November. I'm Michael

Rowland. I'm Mary Gearin. The

top story on ABC News Breakfast

- relatives of Australian twins

mysteriously shot in the head

on a Denver rifle range are on

their way to the United States.

One twin is dead and the other

critically injured but pleats can't identify which is which.

Inbizarre shooting had husband

baffled police. They're looking

at every possible scenario as

they try to phene out what

happened. We hope to get more

details on that later. As we wait for those details we'll

move on to the next story which

is offers to help Ireland deal with its debt as Finance

Ministers met in Brussels to

discuss the crisis. The former

'Celtic tiger' hasn't requested

help and insistatise can deal with the situation on its own.

act as the BBC Mark Simpson But the EU says it is

reports.

reports. The crash in Ireland's

economy is summed up by 30,000 empty homes gathering dust in

ghost estates after the Irish

property bubble burst and the

money ran out. The 'Celtic

tiger' boom made Ireland the

golden boy of Europe, it's now

the problem child. European

Finance Ministers are worried.

Ireland's debt crisis is making

borrowing more expensive for

some other parts of

zone. The UK is outside that

zone but it still want to

neighbour help. Ireland is our closest

neighbour and it's in Britain's national interest Irish economy is successful and

we have a stable banking system

so Britain stands ready to

support Ireland in the steps

that it needs to take to bring about that stability. Ireland

is the UK's fifth-largest export market. The UK could

help by giving the country a a European-wide rescue fund. Although the Irish Government

says it doesn't want to

just a tactic. bail-out, some believe that's

just a tactic. The Irish are

probably trying to get as much

as they can out of this negotiating process so that

ultimately when the decision is

announced that it may be on

slightly favourable term for

Ireland so there's very much a

game going on here. Any deal

late that negotiated will be too

late for this young nursing graduate. Ann-Maree King is

leaving Ireland this weekend,

one of thousands of people now emigrating. It's

heart-breaking leaving my

family and friends behind, my

boyfriend behind. I have to go

to the UK to find a permanent

job in nursing. I don't really

want to leave these people

beheend but it's not a choice I

have at the minute. The focus

switching of the debt crisis is now

Dublin. Tomorrow officials are

coming here from the European

Central Bank, the European

International Monetary Fund. Commission and the

For Ireland, it's now decision

time. Bail-out or no bail-out,

the rest of Europe is waiting

for an answer. In other news,

the Senate is fuming and the

Government is digging in. The

row over releasing the business

plan for the national broadband network is threatening to erupt into all-out war. The Senate is

demanding to see it now but the

Government says it will have to

wait until next month. The

issue is now set to dominate

the final sitting week

year. Federal politicians are

set for a hefty new year pay rise.

rise. Back bench salaries are

likely to rise by tens of

thousands of dollars to around $180,000

$180,000 a year and Shadow

Ministers to $200,000. Julia

Gillard and her Ministers are

also in line for a pay rise.

The increase is a part of an overhaul of parliamentary entitlements. Germany's on

security alert after a tip off

about an impending terrorist

attack. Security at airports stepped up. The country's Interior

Minister says he has evidence

terrorists are planning attacks

for the end of the month. Five detainees haveneded their rooftop protist at Sydney's

Villawood detention centre.

They cloimed on to the roof

yesterday brandishing banners

are angry about the suicide of

an Iraqi detainee on Monday.

Inimgrytion department is sending kouns - Immigration Department is sending

counsellors to Villawood. The

death toll in Haiti's cholera

epidemic has soared to more

than 1100. Overcrowded hospitals are struggling to cope. More than 18,000 cope. More than 18,000 people

have been treated since the epidemic

epidemic began last month. The

country's President is pleading

for comafter anger over the

outbreak erupt violence. ...a very unholy row

between Christian priests has undermined efforts to restore

the chur chur in the chur chur in Bethlehem. The three denominations which run

the church have failed to agree

on how to carry out the

desperately needed repairs. The

Palestinian Government has

intervene dped is about to embark on a multimillion-dollar

repair job. It's one of the

oldest churches in the built over the cave where Jesus

was born. Part of its floor dates to the fourth century but

years of neglect have left the church of the nativity in

serious disrepair. For decades

the roof, rotting the wooden rainwater has leaked through

beams and damaging beams and damaging priceless

mosaics and frescoes. The roof

is at risk of collapse. It is

urgent to repair the roof. Just as

of fighting between the three denominations that manage the

Holy Land sites. Priestly

punch-ups like this one go back more than a century over which,

greeth orthodox, Armenian or Franciscan owns every altar,

every passageway, even the

chandeliers. This is the manger

where Jesus was born and yet

here last month two priests

almost came to blows was a

mop and bucket tried to take it

up this staircase which the

Armenians say belongs to Armenians say belongs to them. Greek orthodox leaders have

order their monks to refrain

from violence. This is not the

first time and I pray and hope

it will be the last but I'm

afraid it would happen again.

Little wonder then if they'd

fight over a mop ask bucket

that church leaders could

hardly agree on such a massive

repair job. In the end the

Palestinian Government had

Palestinian Government had to

wrest control. We cannot say

watching the church and one day

have a major collapse, God

forbid. It could take around

four years and tens of

millionses of dollars to

restore the church its to full

glory. It might take centuries

more though for the priests to

put aside their get more now on the debt crisis

in Ireland. The EU says it's

ready to act if the Irish

Government calls for an official bail-out request.

James Shugg joins us now from

London. Good morning. There was

a lot of focus over night on

the meeting of the European

Finance Ministers to discuss a

bail-out but so far no action

on that front? Yes, the Irish

Government has made the point they don't need bail-out funds.

They are fully funded until the

middle of next year. The problem is that investors have taken

taken the view that because the

Government has committed

Government has committed to

bail-out the Irish banking

system and because the banking

system loans are going back day

after day, mainly related to

the housing market in Ireland,

that investors are concerned the Irish Government doesn't

yet know the full extent of its

likely exposure to the banking

system so it might yet be the case the advantage of the bail-out

funds. It is possibly a matter

of time before the Irish have

to swallow their pride - and it

has been pride that's stopped

them so far accepting the money

- and put their hand out to the

EU? I think pride, yes, it's

probably part of it and also

there is this genuine belief,

and I've spoken to officials in

the Government about this,

there is a genuine belief they

don't need the funds. What the

EU want - the reason the EU

Ireland to take the funds is they believe it will help calm investor sentiment which is

getting nervous nut not just in

relation to Ireland and can

Greece but in relation to

Portugal and Spain. There is a

general strike in Portugal next

week protesting at the

austerity Budget cuts put in

place by the Portuguese Government. If that strike takes place against a

background of concerns about

Ireland still persisting Ireland still persisting then there's real concern the

contagion effect those Iberian Governments and

that's something EU officials

want to avoid. A lot of

European economies had been hit but Ireland is top of the

list. That's right. You're

looking at some areas prices

are down around 60% from their

peak. I had a look at some

figures today. The Irish banks

this week are worth 2% of what

they were worth four years ago in termses of market

the Irish banks are pretty much

worthless because of their exposure to the proper market

the took advantage of very low interest rates Ireland entered the EU, they

had a party for nearly a decade and it's all turned pear-shaped

since the global financial

crisis began. The property

market and banks have collapsed

in Ireland and the risk is the Government is close to collapse. A lot of parallels

are being drawn between Ireland

and Greece. The Greeks had accept a bail-out rontly

because of severe financial

problems there but there is a

difference because firstly to date the requested help from the EU? There are differences and

similarities. Greece is very much back on the table as a

source of concern. We heard

yesterday that the Austrians

have said, although they've

certainly back-tracked from

this a bit - they're not prepared to contribute their

bit of bail-out funds that Greece

needs to access in

December/January because they're not of they're not of the belief that

Greece has done enough to cut

its deficits. Even though

Greece has secured bail-out

funds, they may not be entirely forthcoming because they

haven't done enough on the

Budget side. We're folking

mainly on Ireland at the moment

but Greece

potential concern to investors

in Governments in Europe. What

effect has the continued

instability an European markets overnight? Actually not much. European

European markets are up

three-quarters of a per cent on average today across the

European bourses but remember

they fell more than 2%

yesterday so you could call

that a bit of a dead cat bounce after biggest losses in four months we saw an Tuesday's trading. I think They're waiting to hear what

sort of announcements we're

going to get following ongoing

talks between EU

aintelligences, the IMF and the

Irish Government. We hear something in the next day

or two. James Shugg, thank

you. Thank you. Now to the

front pages of the major

newspapers around the country. Federal mlerise in line for a

new pay rise with the base pay

for rookie MPs jumping to $170,000 reports the 'Daily

Telegraph'. The 'Advertiser'

says the identity of the

alleged Kapunda

suppress ed but can potentially

been uncovered on the Internet.

'Financial Review' reports

Labor is planning to allow mining companies to speed mining companies to speed up hiring foreign skilled work

with a new visa for the

resources sector. The 'Sydney

Morning Herald' says four men

charged over the murder of

Michael McGurk have agreed to

give evidence against the alleged master mind. The

Australian says the builders of a Victorian Government desal plant funded Australia's most notorious notorious strike breaker in a secret operation. The

'Courier-Mail' says dozens of

residents in their 80s and 90s could lose could lose their rental homes as retirement village operators

search for higher profits. millions of dollars have been

thrown into doubt by a legal

decision. Women have been caught in a

reports the 'Herald Sun'. The

Western Australian reports the Western Australian Government

has revived its failed plan to

pay private hospitals to

perform operations on hundreds of public patients. Tasmania

risks losing all international

cricket matches without a $21

million redevelop of Bellerive Oval says the Murray Marathon.

And the Northern Territory nows has

has a souvenir edition, inside

it's full of tips for pril and

Kate Middleton in case they want want to honeymoon in the Top

End. Just as well. I'm sure

the royal couple do get the NT

News. And the times, the

'Daily Telegraph', 'Daily Telegraph', the

'Financial Times', the Northern

Territory news. There are lot

of attractive places to go in

the Northern Territory but I

don't think it will be top on the royal agenda. The 'Daily

Telegraph' is reporting the not

necessarily New Delhis about

the impend ing pay

MPs and the result of the

relevant review is due to be

re-Leed by the end of the year.

What is new are comments by the

Minister in charge of this, Minister in charge of this, the

special Minister of State Gary

Grey who was before going into

parliament, he's a previous ALP

national secretary but before

going into parliament worked for oil

for oil company Woodside. He is

in the papers this morning

complaining about taking a haircut. He was earning more

than $600,000 a

now, as he says, making do on a

backbencher salary of $130,000

which in a lot of people's eyes

is a fair whack of money. And

it can get you a good

haircut. What do you think? Do

politicians broadly need a pay

rise and what do you think

about politicians who sacrifice

all the money to serve the

public good? Should they get

financial rewards or stop

complaining and if they want to

earn the money go back to

private sector? Given CEOs

earn so much and the pay packets have been raising, do

we need to get the best talent, is the argument. Peanuts and monkeys. Possibly not. If you

would like to join the

conversation on that or anying

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this morning, please send emails to: showers tending to thundery rain.

The top stories on ABC News

Breakfast - relatives of

Australian twins shot on a

Denver rifle range are headed

to the United States to

identify them. One twin died,

the other is critically

injured. The police remain

baffled by exactly how it

happened. The row continues

to release a business plan for

the national broadband network.

The Senate is demanding to see

it but the Government won't

release it until next month. And Ireland continues to

shun Europe's offers to help it

deal with its debt crisis. European financial Ministers

are on stand-by with a bail-out

package but Ireland says it

doesn't need it. Now the

Federal Government is under

increasing pressure to release

its business plan for The Government says it won't be

released until next month which is well after parliament rises for the year. For more, Melissa

Clarke joins us from

This political show down over

the NBN business plan is escalating? That's right. escalating? That's right. It

seems the Senate has made good

on its threat to pass an order to force the Government to

produce the documents, that is

the business plan put together

by the NBN co- and the

Government's response to an implementation they want to see the details

before they vote, before the

Senate votes to pass

legislation on the structural separation of Telstra which separation of Telstra which is

wound up in this national

broadband network plan. So the

Senate made good on the threat

and last night that motion was

passed for the Government to

produce those documents by the

end of the day. Now, the end of

the day has come and gone and

the Government isn't producing

those documents. We've had the Prime Minister

won't release those Governments

until December which is what

they had initially said and

that will mean they wochBt be released until after

has finish frted the year and

the Government hopes after the Telstra bill for structural

separation has passed the Senate. This has angered a lot

of the cross-benchers and of

course the Opposition. The Opposition has suggested that

they may well try and block

this Telstra separation bill in

the Senate in response to not being on those documents. The Greens

have said they don't have said they don't horse

trade with issue dpz they're

not necessarily going to block

the Telstra legislation because

they can't get the documents

but they've made it very clear they're not happy and it's not

a cooperative way for the

Government to be working with

the cross-benchers whose

support they need. Why is the

Government saying won't release

the business plan now and prefers to wait until inect

month? Well, the

communications Minister Stephen

Conroy said he only recently

received the business plan himself from the national

broadband network company, that

it's quite extensive. He needs

to go through it. He's still

being briefed and needs to

brief his

which we expect he'll do

Monday, Tuesday next week and

before it can be released

elements that would elements that would be commercial in confidence need

to be blacked out and given it's such a big document they're suggesting that would take quite some time. The

Government is saying in fairness it

fairness it needs time to

consider the document and to

make sure it can on the contents of the document

and then make sure it is OK to

be released into the public

sphere before they do that and

they're saying they're not going to going to be rushed into the

processen fairly because of

pressure from the pressure from the Senate but

snort are saying, and some in

the Lower House as well have

said if they're to give the

issue of the national broadband

network its full consideration

and vote on legislation

relating to it they should be

able to have access to as much

comes to spending tens of

billions of dollars of taxpayer money. The House of

Representatives today should

vote on Greens MP Adam Bandt's

motion for MPs to tap into

their constituents' thoughts on

same-sex marriage? It is

looking likely it will pass.

The Government, which has

struggled a little bit with

this issue with some members of

the ALP expressing some support for same-sex marriage even

though that's against the

official party position, but

after the Greens agreed to an looks like the Labor Party will

now vote in favour of the

motion and there should be

enough cross bench support for

that to succeed which is probably more than the Greens

were ever hoping. The motion

doesn't force anyone to do

anything. It's a anything. It's a nonbinding motion, really a

conversation-starter or a way

of getting the debate moving

and it seems the Greens have had more success than they may have anticipated. The other

thing to note is the debate thing to note is the debate on Afghanistan, Australia's

involvement will also wind up today after a

couple of weeks with almost

every MP and Senator having

their say on that issue so that has also been a successful debate-starter initiated by the

Greens and cross-benchers. A

busy day ahead. Melissa Clarke in Canberra, thank you. Now to

the

Now to sport, here's Amy

Bainbridge. Good morning. Danny Green has retained his IBO

cruiserweight world title with

a win over American BJ Flores

in Perth last night. Green was

fighting heavier than ever before, weighing in at 88.6kg.

He won with a unanimous points

decision. Green's fourth

successful IBO title defence

lifted him to a career record

of 31 wins and three defeats in

34 bouts. The Western

Australian started the match cautiously but landed

meaningful blows throughout the

12-round bout to come away with

a win. I'm happy to outbox a boxer. I outboxed a 4-time

national champion top 10-ranked

fighter. In all honesty, guys,

if I could have put him away I

would have put him away. I

didn't get the chance. He was

smart enough to watch out for

his power. Thanks to BJ's team,

thanks to the IBO. thanks to the IBO. Well done,

BJ. Give him a hand, guys. (APPLAUSE) The Brisbane

Roar have continued their

unbeaten A-League run with a

late goal against the Newcastle Jets to end the match Jets to end the match in a draw. The Jets dominated for most of the match and took the

lead early in the second half

but with 10 minutes to play the

Roar levelled the scores and

the match ended in a draw. The

ladder leaders are now

undefeated in their past 11 games. England has had the

upper han after the opening day

of the tour match against

Australia A in Hobart. In reply

to Australia's total of to Australia's total of 230,

the tourists reached 1/22 by

stumps. Usman Khawaja and

Callum Ferguson had forgettable

days but Steven Smith made 59

and Steven O'Keefe made a half

century in which captain Andrew Strauss was caught out for 10.

Cricket selectors are keeping a close Shield matches. Mike Hussey was

out for an 18-ball duck against

Victoria. Marcus North was out

for 17. Now in the game between

NSW and Tasmania the Blues were

all out for 97 and SA and

Queensland - had Queensland at

2/27 at stumps on day one.

Wallabies coach Robbie Deans

has defended the value of mid

week tour games after his

second string side lost to the

Irish province Munster, putting pressure on the Test team. The

clash with the

champions might have been a

genuine selection trial for

this weekend's Test against

Italy. Winger James O'Connor has

has returned home on compassionate leave and is putting Test spots up for

grabs after the heavy loss to England. Weather conditions in

Limerick were atrocious and it

was difficult to glean an insight into the players' potential. At the end of the

day we're going to walk away

and we won't be whinging about

conditions we play under in

Australia. That's one positive

got to get tight as a team. Two

losses on the trot now we look

to bounce back next Saturday and that's an important focus for us now. This is the

closest thing to World Cup

rugby that we can get. It's difficult to get this

opportunity for the next tier,

if you like. So these blokes

will be much better for this

experience and that's the

motivation. Sure,

have got the outcome we wanted

but the experience was

valuable. That's Wallabies coach Robbie

coach Robbie Deans. That match is against Italy this weekend as as the Wallabies continue their

spring tour. Now, Michael and

Mary, I can tell you that the Socceroos are in the final

stages of a bit of a disappointing friendly against

Egypt. There's a number of

friendlies being played around

the world. This of course is an

important warm-up for the Asian

Cup early next year. The game isn't over

now down 3-0 so there must have

been a goal scored just in the

last couple of minutes so not

fantastic. That's a

to catch up after 3-0. It's all

over pretty much for the

Socceroos. Egypt are a good

side. They didn't qualify for

the warp but they're in a really - qualify for the World

Cup but they're in a really

tough region to qualify for

that so they're by no stretch a bad team but this will

has only taken over the has only taken over the reigns in the last few months in the last few months and

would have been keen to start

off with a win even if it is

just a friendly. We were missing Harry Kewell and Josh Kennedy through injury.

Looking at your bulletin, we've

got three sports where

Australian fans are waiting and

watching to rebuild the team.

You've got the Wallabies ,

you've got an Australian

cricket side that cricket side that sorting out where they're going and the

Socceroos as well. It's a hard

stretch for Australian fans.

It is but The Wallabies, I don't know we

can take too much away from

that. It was a second string

team. More importantly will be

the Test against Italy. That's

really important. We can't have

three wins on the trot. Italy

is the first side we draw in

the World Cup draw next year so

a win against Italy will have enormous psychological

benefits. Robbie Deans is

putting a bit of putting a bit of psychological

pressure on the players. Having

a second string team playing

mid week does put the pressure on saying the Test spots are up

for grabs so if you're going to

play well there you are. The

cricket is a bit dismal at the moment.

well. He did. What a young

champion. The thing that's

undecided about him is whether

he's a spin bowler or middle

order batsman. He is quoted in

the paper as saying, "I

wouldn't mind doing either." He did have a great day yesterday

and we'll just have to wait and

see. I think they're hoping to

finalise the squad by Friday

but I guess it's going depend on today and tomorrow because we've got the three Sheffield Shields and Australia

A playing England. Hopefully

Steven Smith can sort out his

identity crisis by then.

Thanks, Amy. Good morning.

First off, in the northeast the

rain continues to fall. We have a trough there heavy rain across the tropics

through Queensland and down to

northeast NSW. It may cause flooding. Partly Tasmania and Victoria. A high

is directing hot winds over WA

and keeping most of SA You're watching ABC News Breakfast. Now still to come

this morning we'll be speaking to Young Australian of the Year finalist Wesa Chau. She's

taking part in the Knowledge Cities World Summit happening in Melbourne. Also ahead we'll

have a review of some of the

newspapers and this morning

we're joined by Andrew Crook, a senior journalist with

Crikey. The relatives of Australian twins mysteriously

shot in the head on rifle range are on their way to the United States. One twin is

dead and the other critically

injured but police can't

identify which is which. The bizarre shooting

police. The Senate is fuming

and the Government is digging

in. The row over releasing in. The row over releasing the business plan for the national broadband network is threatening to erupt into

all-out war. The Senate is

demanding to see it now but the

Government says it will have to

wait until next month. The

issue is now set to dominate

the final sitting week for the year. Parliament will vote on the Greens gay marriage motion

this morning. The motion calls

on MPs to consult with their electorates about same-sex marriage. The Government decided to support it and it's

likely to get enough cross

bench support to pass. Ireland

is resisting European pressure

to help bail it out of its

financial woes. European

Finance Ministers have met to

discuss how to stop the crisis

from spreading to other vulnerable countries like Spain

and Portugal. Ireland insists it can sort it can sort the problem out for

itself. Germany is on high

alert after a tip-off about an

impending terrorist attack.

Security at airports and train stations has been stepped up.

The country's interior Minister

says he has evidence terrorists

are planning attacks for the

end of the month. Asylum seekers at Sydney's Villawood

detention centre have ended

their roof top protest. Small

fires were also lit inside the

centre during the day of action

and 160 detainee s are still on a hunger advocate say the protesters are upset

upset over the suicide death of

fellow detainee Ahmad al-Akabi

and want more attention paid to

their own cases. Shouting from

the rooftop and burning the

furniture to make a point.

These men, three Iranians, one

Iraqi and a curd, have been in

detention for around a year

with slar sphOries to that of

Ahmad al-Akabi - similar

stories to that of Ahmad

al-Akabi who committed suicide

on Monday night. man's death was very close to man's death was very close to

home. The guy who was on the

rooftop was sharing a room with

the guy who committed suicide

so he was very, very depressed

and sad when I visited him

yesterday. He expressed to me

that he cannot believe he that he cannot believe he lost

his friend. The men had

climbed on to the roof after

supporters arrived at the gate.

The two suicides at the centre

in as many splunths taken their

toll. They wanted to say woe are suffering and we don't

want to be - to die here like

the two people who lost lives in the last two months. There were also confrontations between security staff and asylum seekers inside the centre and police came in force

to keep refugee activists

outside the perimeter fence.

Two hours later the five men

came down and the fires were

put out. I talked to the

friends when they came They said they made their point

and they wanted to vent their

anger. They wanted to vent

their frustration, their

hopelessness of the system and

they think that they managed. The wife of Ahmad al-Akabi is

waiting for the body of her

husband but that process will be delayed while be delayed while investigations

into his suicide continue. The

family is very poor is this is

why he asked the Government to

deport him immediately to Iraq because young daughters cannot support themselves there. The Immigration Department won't

say what started today's protest. It says the

services provider Circo is

continuing to engage with the

men with a view to keep the men

calm. Now returning to our top

story - the death of Australian

twins at a shooting range in

Colorado. For more now we're

joined by ABC America reporter

Marshall Zellinger from Denver

via web cam. Thank joining us. Can you let us know what is the latest from investigators there? Mary,

today the county sheriff's

office in the Denver suburb office in the Denver suburb of

Aurora Colorado are hoping to

talk with the surviving sister

who is still in the hospital.

She had brain surgery since the

incident on Monday afternoon

but the sheriff's office

doesn't know of the twins which

is in the hospital and which

died. Again, identical twins

from Australia, hoping for help figure out which is which

or waiting for family to travel

from Australia to come here and

help solve that part of the

mystery. We have learned they

were staying in a hotel a few

miles, maybe five miles from

where the shooting range was

where the incident happened two

days ago and they took a taxi to

to the shooting range. Again, different parts of the investigation are still

unfolding, trying to figure out

what, if any, help that would

be to figure out what was in

the hotel room or what in the taxi ride over. We

learned last night one of the

sisters may have been due to

travel back to Australia

yesterday. As you say, each of

these clues are being sifted

flow because it's such an

unusual case. What sort of

theories are the investigators

still perasuing? There seems

to be a number of things. Has anything

anything been ruled in or anything been ruled in or out?

We asked of the shooting range director yesterday is it

possible that this was not accidental?

this was an isolated this was an isolated incident,

that was something that the two

girls had done themselves.

There is some surveillance

video authorities are looking

at but it doesn't show the

incident itself. It shows

reaction rom other shooters at

that shooting range but it's

still enknown who was holding

the gun or if that there were

multiple guns used, if they

were chute shot with the same bullet or multiple bullets. To your original

the incident Monday evening the

sheriff's office was saying it

appears the twins had shot each

other. They're waiting to talk

to the surviving twin. There is

surveillance video but we're

being told it doesn't tell us

what happened at the moment of

the shooting. Have investigators ruled out the

idea that a third person could be involved? In other words,

are they no longer looking for

suspects? We were told that immediately after the shooting that this that this was not a community

concern, there was no need to

worry there was a third person

out there, that it was isolated

between the twins. I guess it's

just a matter just a matter of whether this was some sort of suicide pact

or whether one got angry at the other and now they're dealing

with a homicide or possible murder investigation but it

does not appear there is a

third person they're searching

for at this time. What do we

know of the condition of the

surviving twin? As you say

we're just waiting but is any idea of how long it will be

before the surviving twin is

able to reach consciousness? I

guess it's just a matter of how

serious the brain surgery serious the brain surgery was. Any surgery is serious,

especially brain surgery, I

know the sheriff's office has

been at the hospital and

continues to monitor the

situation hoping they can talk

with her and we've put in a

request to find out her

condition but as far as we know

it's a serious condition. She

has been unable to speak with

anybody and I think as late as

yesterday it was

was in tubated with a tube in

her mouth. Beyond her condition, she's physically

unable to speak to give any clue of what happened. We hope desperately that we're desperately that we're not

going to be distressing any

family or friends with any

speculation but to give a wider

context in Australia that has

far more restructed gun laws,

it has been known that there

have been suicides on shooting ranges in the US. What is your

perspective? Is this something

that's common or not common? This

This specific shooting range,

we spoke with the person who

runs the shooting range and he

told us that it's happened at

that specific one last year,

2009, and then again in 2003 2009, and then again in 2003 so

it's not unheard of. It's not

something we tend to cover as a news organisation if there are

suicides. What makes this one

news wrthedy is that there were

two victims in this case

we're unsure if it is a suicide

incident right now but at the

shooting range. It's not

uncommon. At least two other

times in the last seven years

people have gone there and taken their own leaves. It is

intriguing but at the base of

it all it is a tragedy.ing

thank you Marshall Zellinger

for joining us from Denver.

Very mysterious. Now family and

friends of three people

murdered in a South Australian

town of Kapunda last week have

confronted the alleged killer

during a brief court

appearance. The Kapunda man, whose identity has been suppressed, has been

charged with three counts of

murder. In Kapunda, locals say they're relieved an they're relieved an arrest has

been made. Distressed relatives

of the murdered family gathered

their courage before they faced

the accused killer in court.

The 18-year-old man showed no emotion as onlookers cried

silently. I would like to

thank the Kapunda community for

coming forward and helping us get get to this point. It means a

lot to us at the moment and

thank you to all of you. It's

understood the accused man was

known to the Rowe family.

Prosecutors successfully argued

to suppress his name and image.

The court heard the man has

offered an alibi which police

are still investigating. Before

the hearing, magistrate Bob

Hair warned grieving family and

friends to behave appropriately but

teenager, "Rot in hell," as he

was led back into custody. The

teenager was charged in Kapunda

after nearly 150 calls to Crime

Stoppers. Scores of locals

gathered at the police station

for more news. Thank you,

thank you, thank you. I would

like to stress it is not too

late to come forward with

information in regards to the murders. While the court

process is under way, Kapunda residents sure their town's reputation isn't forever tainted. Talking

to people from Snowtown, that's now faded now faded considerably and I think people might have

possibly learned from that and

learned it's not the town that

committed the murder, it just

happened in our town. The

18-year-old will face court

again in February next year.Now

this was a stunt that cost

their mate his life. As a

an Alice Springs man will go

bridge swinging later this week at the very at the very place the 24-year-old was killed doing

the same thing. Louisa Rebgetz

reports. Three, two, one. Go!

This is Mitch's first time

he jumped off a bridge. This YouTube video captures Mitchell

Irving Kelly's first ever

bridge swing. It was the first

of many for the young

adventurer who died doing

exactly this off the same bridge

the weekend. Not safe at all.

I would certainly implore all

people not to be engaged in

activities such as this. Police

say the 24-year-old fell out of

his harness and suffered fatal

head injuries when he landed in

the dry river bed. His family is shocked by the accident,

saying the 24-year-old was

always safety conscious. Many

of his friends are planning to

honour him by joining together

for a bridge jump at spot. We will go up there to

ensure no-one is breaching any laws and in the interim we'll

be speaking with other

Government agencies to

determine if they are legally entitled to do that. I think

at all times it has to be

prohibited. It's thrown the legalties of bridge jump

nothing to question. The

Territory Government says a bridge jumpser only breaching

laws if they are disrupting

traffic. Investigations are now

in the hands of Territory Coroner. We'll take into account any

recommendations the Coroner

comes up with so I'm not going

to speculate on how this man

ultimately lost his life. A funeral for Mitchell Irving

Kelly is being held in Alice

Springs on Friday. The rains of

2010 have brought an end to the

crippling drought across much

of Queensland. But some

pockets of grazing lanin the

State's west haven't seen any

of the above average rainfall

and farmers are drought conditions. After

months of above-average

rainfall, most of Western

Queensland is as lush as the English countryside

parts still haven't seen a

drop. 2000 was the last of

what you'd call the good seasons and then we sort of had

dribs and drabs since then.

This Winton grazier is one of

those whose properties is still

in drought. He's had to get rid

of two-thirds of his

We've been getting by for

probably four or five years, we

just pumped a lot of flick and

stuff into them, supplements and stuff. Peter Crombie

estimates he's had just 75ml of

rain this year. Some of his neighbours have had six times

as much. But he won't begrudge

others their fortune. Some others their fortune. Some of

the other country have been dry

for years and years. I'm

pleased for them but it's hard

when you feel you're missing out. He's not the only one. Many graziers in neighbouring

Bullier shire too are missing

out on the bumping season.

There would be over a million acres there that haven't had

the season. They've been

getting some storms there but

it's really light. To make

matters worse, the drought

declarations for the region

have been lifted. They really

need assistance. It's not poor

management, just the season hasn't been in their favour.

But Peter Crombie is reluctant

to seek to seek help, instead he's

hoping the storm clouds rolling

over his paddocks will finally

bring relief. Bring it on. We're hopeful, We're hopeful, yeah. But that

hope is running out. Kirrin

McKechnie, ABC News, Winton.

You're watching ABC News

Breakfast. The top stories - police in Colorado are still

trying to work out how two Australian twins were shot in

the hoed on a rifle range in

Denver. One twin died and the Their family is on the way there to identify them. The

row continues over the Government's refusal to release

a business plan for national broadband network. The Government won't release it

until next month. In-Ireland continues to shun Europe's

offers to help it deal with its debt crisis. European Ministers

are on standsby with a bail-out

package but Ireland says it

doesn't need it. For a look at the national joined by senior journalist

with Crikey, Andrew Crook.

What's caught your fancy this

morning? Well, fraternity page

of 'The Australian' was it -

front page

was the first thing I looked at

this morning. This is shades of

the waterfront dispute back in

the late '90s where we have strike-breaker - well, not

actually a strike-breaker but a

person purporting to be working

on behalf of the potential

strike-breakers going to the

want thaingy desal plan in

the unions. The ETU is there,

the CFMEU is there. The CFMEU isn't mentioned in the

which I found interesting. The Australian investigation unit

which is headed up by Hedley

Thomas can choop WHO is a Walkley award winning

journalist is going down there and seeing what is going

on. The context of that is

there have been many reports in

Melbourne in particular about information is passed about

them to police and what sort of arrangement have been done there. So around this plant

there's been quite an air there's been quite an air of paranoia and secrecy and this

just adds to it. The Brumby

Government is under pressure if

they are re-elected to finish this by November or December

next year. It's been going

quite well but obviously this

whole debate has been mired in

the fact it's actually been

raining in Victoria, do we need

another $5 billion I think the Premier of Victoria

would be pretty resolute, "I

want this finished, I've made a

decision." Once he makes a decision he'll want completion. He'll think if He'll think if the unions are

thinking of arcing up then I'm

not sure he was not involved in

this, it was something Thiess

was involved in. You want to

make sure there's no unrest on

the work site. 'The Age' is running with a story many

motorists hope is of 2002 when I think Steve Bracks previously suggested

that he didn't want - wasn't

going to have tolls on east link, that was the other one,

now this is west link. This is

an interesting story because

there was a quadruple by-line in 'The Age'. Basically they

have round-tables in the

lead-up election, I think on a plane, 'The talked to the leaders about their policies and got Brumby

in for a video chat and struck

the news stories out of his quotes quotes so there's other stuff where he's talking about crime

and stuff but Paul Rammage,

editor of 'The Age' has got a

by-line on this. Really? You

dont see that every day. I

suppose that's a response to media organisations trying to

figure out how they can

actually get something original

out of what becomes such highly

formulaic campaigns. If they're

saying, "We're going to take an

interview, make it wide ranging

and pick the eyes out of it,"

that's got to put the spin

doctors back on their heels a bit. You could run the

interview and video and big feature but I think they need

to pick the eyes out of the interview and they've decided

to go with the quite a weird

quote really, we're not going

to rule out tolls, there might be fallback, isn't it? You're not

rulinging out. I have never

done it. Pay rises for politicians is politicians is something we've talked about already this morning. Undoubtedly always

likely to spark a lot of

comment? The interesting point about this story is it's

running on the front page of the 'Daily Telegraph' and

'Sydney Morning Herald' in NSW but the 'Sydney Morning Herald'

got to speak to special

Minister of State Gary Gray but

the 'Telegraph' didn't, saying

was unfortunate Mr Gray was unfortunate Mr Gray wasn't vanl 'Sydney Morning Herald' leading

with Gary's comments. Do you

read anything into that? I'm

not sure if Gary Gray is embarking on his anti- News

Limited conspiracy, I think

that would be far-fetched. If

you look at how the stories are

rin written, the 'Telegraph'

are looking at increase in pay

from 150,000 to 180,000 which

is still a lot less than Ralph Norris who dollars oyear in the corporate

sector. That point is made in

the 'Sydney Morning Herald' and

the 'Daily Telegraph' emphasise

s pigs at the trough. Gary Gray made the point as a Woodside

executive he was earning north

of $600,000 and now is making

do on 130,000. How do you think

that will play out, say in the western suburbs of Sydney? The

politicians put in olot of politicians put in olot of work

and are underpaid compared to

the corporate sector. It is

probably good to look at the situation where mid rnking

executives get paid 200 to 250

grand a year. Let's not mention

Gary Gray versus social workers

or teachers. You've been

looking at the web as well? Looked at

Looked at a story in 'The

Guardian' that was website yesterday in the UK, last night. There was a big

protest about student fees. The UK Government is hacking

millions of dollars out of its Budget and there's a website called fit watch which popped up because a lot of these

protests descended on

Conservative Party headquarters

to protest. There was a bit of

violence and a minority of

protests got up to the roof and

set fire to things and the

'Daily Telegraph', which is the

UK broad spp sheet in this

instance, has been running

protesters there. This website

emerged, fit watch which is fit

is forward intelligence team, which the Government looks at

to identify these protesters

and there was a situation where

that website because fit watched avised the

protesters how to not be

arrested so maybe if you want

to get the sex change it might be a good time. Was it

facetious or was it for real?

No t was for real. Get a are running the campaign of these people these people seeing themselves in the paper and saying, "How do

do I not get arrested?" Don't

turn yourself in. turn yourself in. Don't protest. Interestingly, things like the forward intelligence team, maybe that could have

been up for the sort of cuts

but apparently not, they're

funding had team well. Surely

it wouldn't be illegal to say

how to avoid getting arrested?

Not illegal but I think I'm not

sure what

they did write to the service

provider and said, "Take it down immediately." The Internet

being what it is, the website

was then replicated 70 Just to end on, you've got

something of a joke? I love

koala stories and we had Sam the koala in the the koala in the Victorian

bushfires and ended up being

Samantha and ended up actually

not being related to the Black

Saturday incident in question

but he's apparently walked up

into a bar in Queensland- This

is the beginning of a

No, it's a true story in the

'Courier-Mail'. Koala walks into a

into a bar, asked for ID,

couldn't produce ID,

the barman and went to sleep. That passes for a joke

in the 'Courier-Mail'? It is a

legitimate news story. It is

from AFP. Must have been a quiet

quiet day. Andrew, thank quiet day. Andrew, thank you.

Now here's Amy Bainbridge with the sport the sport headlines. Egypt has thrashed the Socceroos 3-0 in this morning's international

friendly match in Cairo. It's

Australia's first loss under new coach Holger Oesick. Socceroos were without Josh

Kennedy and Harry Kewell. The

match was the first of two

friendlies for the Socceroos

ahead of the Asian Cup with the

Australian squad also scheduled

to play the UAE in Dubai on

January 5. Back home and the Brisbane

Brisbane Roar have their unbeaten A-League run

for-W a late goal against the

Newcastle Jets to end the match

in a draw. The Jets dominated

for most of the match and took

the lead early in the second half but with 10 minutes to

play the Roar levelled the

scores and the match ended in a

draw. The ladder leaders are

now undefeated in their past 11

games. Danny Green has retained

his IBO cruiserweight world

title with a win over American

BJ Flores in Perth last night.

Green was fighting heavier than ever ever before, weighing in at

88.6kg. He won with a unanimous

points decision, Green's fourth successful IBO title defence lifted him to a lifted him to a career record

of 31 wins and three defeats in

34 bouts. A great record. The

Western Australian started

cautiously but landed the more

meaningful blows throughout the 12-round

12-round bout to come away with

the win. Michael and Mary, it

seems Danny Green is flying the flag for Australia at the moment. Our sports teams not doing so well.

Pretty disappointing for the

Socceroos but they have to regroup. They don't have

another international match until early January. Ask

Danny Green ecstatic about the

victory? His opponent BJ Flores wasn't happy with the

unanimous points decision but

Green thanked him and said, "I

love boxing a real boxer." That

is a back-handed compliment to

him in a way and talking down

the others he's faced in the last

performance indeed and the

crowd went crazy for him.

Always popular in front of a

home crowd in Perth. Thank

you. Vanessa O'Hanlon is here with the weather. Over the past

few days, parts of northeast

NSW have had some of their biggest rainfalls in years and

there's more on the way. What

we have are very moist easterly

winds feeding into a trough

that near stationary over the

region. Rain is expected to

ease tomorrow as the trough for flooding today. The rain

will continue to fall over

eastern Queensland. We can see

the radar here for this morning

so far dumping around 59mm in

the tropics. Some areas in southeast Queensland are

forecast to receive around

50mm. Thundery rain will also develop in Brisbane. Still ahead on ABC News

Breakfast, the death toll from

Haiti's cholera epidemic has reached

reached 1100. We'll reached 1100. We'll cross to the Haitian Port-au-Prince for the latest

details. And how do we make

our cities more environmentally

sustainable? We'll be joined

by Young Australian of the Year

Wesa Chau for more. That's This Program Is Captioned

Live. Search for answers. Relatives of Australian twins

shot in the head fly out to the

US to identify them. Senate

refuses to release its

month. The EU plays down talks

on helping Ireland out of its financial troubles. And

Australian boxer Danny Green successfully defends his IBO cruiserweight world title. Good morning. It's Thursday 18 November. I'm Michael Rowland. I'm Mary Gearin. The

top story on ABC News Breakfast

- relatives of Australian twins mysteriously shot on a Denver rifle range are on

their way to the United States.

One twin is dead and the other

critically injured but police can't identify which is which. The bizarre shooting has baffled police. They've said they're looking at every possible scenario as they try

to find out how it happened.

This morning I spoke to ABC America America reporter Marshall

Zellinger from Denver. Today

the county sheriff's office in

the Denver suburb of Aurora,

Colorado are hoping to talk

with the surviving sister who

is still in the H. She had brain surgery since the

incident Monday afternoon. The sheriff's office doesn't know

of the twins which is in the

hospital and which died, again

identical twins from Australia, hoping for fingerprint

identification to help figure

out which is which or waiting

for family to travel from

Australia to come here and help

solve that part of the mystery.

We've also learned they were

staying in a hotel about a few where the shooting range was

where the incident happened two days ago and they took a taxi to that shooting range. Again, different parts of the

investigation still unfolding trying to figure out what, if

any, help that would be to figure out what was in the

hotel room or what happened in

the taxi ride over. We also

learned last night that one of

the sisters may have been due

back to travel back to

Australia yesterday. As you

say, each of these clues are being sifted through it's such an unusual case. What

sort of theories are the

investigators still pursuing?

There seems to be a number of

things, has anything

in or out? We asked of the

shooting range director

yesterday, "Is it possible this

was not accidental?" They

assured us this was an isolated

incident, that it was something

that the two girls had done

themselves. There is some

surveillance video that

authorities are looking at but

it doesn't show the incident

itself. It

other shooters at that shooting

range but it's still unknown

who was holding the gun or if

there were multiple guns used,

if they were shot with the same

bullet or multiple bullets. To

your original question, after

the incident Monday evening the sheriff's office said it

appeared the twins had shot each other but they're still

waiting to talk to the

surviving twin to find out what

happened. There is surveillance

video but we're told it doesn't moment of the shooting. We'll

have more on the story as the

morning progresses. The Federal Government is still ignoring

Senate demands to release the business plan for the national

broadband network. Senators

want to before parliament rises

for the year next week. The

Government says they'll Government says they'll have to

wait until next month. Federal

politicians are set for a hefty

new-year pay rise. Back bench

salaries are likely to rise by

tens of thousands of dollars to

around $180,000 and Shadow Ministers' pay Julia Gillard and her Ministers are also in line for a pay

rise. The increase is a part of

an over haul of parliamentary about an impe