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(generated from captions) arrangements with the United

States since the joint

facilities were agreed upon in

the 1980s. If I can turn to

Afghanistan, Minister. Last month the Afghan President

Hamid Karzai told Pakistan's

largest TV network that "If

there is a war between Pakistan

and America we will stand by

Pakistan." Given the efforts of the allied forces in Afghanistan did you find statement extraordinary? Well,

I often take with a grain of

salt some of the things which

President Karzai says and so do

others so I would not place too

much weight upon that. Firstly,

I regard the notion of conflict

between the United States and

Pakistan at remote hypothetical

and unlikely and that's because both the United Pakistan in very difficult circumstances are working very

hard to try and together help

stare down the extremist and

on the Afghanistan/Pakistan insurgent threat which we

border and which we find in

Afghanistan particularly in the

old federally administer ed

territory. So they're working

very hard on that. Afghanistan

is complex and complicated.

There are very many stran

strands to what people would

regard as Pakistani institutions or Pakistani

elements of government but it's

very important that the United States, Australia and States, Australia and others continue to engage with Pakistan. Pakistan won't get over its extremist or terrorist

problems without also getting over its economic problems and

it needs every assistance from

us and every engagement from us

in that respect. You say you

take with a grain of salt some

of the comments

Har Zhai but he's an important

figure and Major General Peter

Fuller said after those

comments from Karzai "You've got to got to be kidding me we just

gave you $11 billion and now

you're telling me youfr don't

really care." He's since lost

his job since making those

questions about whether the comments but it raises

allegiance lies and where the security situation is? Mr

Fuller's fate may tem you the remarks. I don't give a running sense or

commentary on what President

Karzai says. From time to time

it's well known that President

Karzai says things which he or

his officials at the time or

accidently may regret. We deal accidently may regret.

with the cards that with the cards that unfold.

President Karzai is the elected

president of Afghanistan. The

last meeting he had with the

Prime Minister in Kabul

recently was a very successful

and productive meeting. He

appreciates very much the work

that Australia does. He

appreciates very much have sacrifice that our personnel

have made. And he is very

encouraged by the sorts of

commentary Australia makes

about we're there to transition

by 2014 but we also see a need for the international community

to continue to render some

assistance in the post transition

transition world and that's

very important because that

sends a signal to Afghanistan

and to the region that

international community will be

there in some manner or form

once transition has been made

to Afghan-led

thank you very much for thank you very much for joining Lateline tonight, I'm glad your

voice held. I'm not sure that

it did but thanks very much.

Good to speak to you again. A veteran youth worker is

warning many Australian cities

are at a tipping point when it

comes to gang-related crime and

violence by young people. Les

his work with disadvantaged Twentyman who's well known for

youths in Melbourne and

alienated a sense of belonging

and importance and Victoria's

growing gang problem was police service acknowledges a

ignored for years. It says it's now seeking to address now seeking to address the

issue. There's little that

shocks Les Twentyman on the streets of Melbourne but even

he says he's concerned about an

the emerging street gang culture in

the west of the city. Look,

I've been aware of gang

problems for nearly 20 years

but it's day by day they're

becoming more brazen and far

more criminal in activities. Under more criminal in their

bill of rights police can't

officially compile statistics

on whether or not gangs are

formed along ethnic lines but unofficially police and social workers say different ethnic

groups often stick together on

the streets and police believe

newer migrants may lack an

understanding of the role of

police. Wherever they've come

from there's been social issues there relating to police that

have caused them some concerns.

So coming to another country

they then think well this is

exactly the same but then over

time they realise it's not the

same. In the western suburbs

and CBD on the of young African youths are the

most visible. Young Sudanese

men have been targeted by

police and the media for

attention. 3 violent incidents

had the in as many days in April even

were specific problems We do had the Premier asking if there

have to recognise there are some problems in some

communities and they have to be addressed. In an effort to

bridge the cultural divide

police are finding difficult to cross,

cross, young Sudanese

Australians like Liah Mout are

stepping up. He's working with

young Sudanese people on the

streets of Melbourne to help

them and the police understand

each each other better. The social

isolation, the barrier, the

communication with the police

and the young people. In NSW Mr

Are concerned young people in street gangs are being recruit

ed by larger organised crime groups. Police in Victoria don't believe that's the case

in Melbourne yet but they

facing some organised gang in Melbourne yet but they are

activity in the western

suburbs. Their gangs engage in

lower level crime like

muggings, beatings and

stabbings. Their style imitates

US gang culture such as leaving

each other messages on walls in coded Grafities. We're

lot of copy cat stuff following

the American trend of gang

activity. Superintendent Pat

Boyle won a Churchill

skolorship to study gangs and

the way authorities deal with

them in the US and UK and how

to deal with it in

Australia Hand signs, clothing,

language, tattoos, and there's

a combination of those things

but then there's kids out there just experimenting

just experimenting because they

just want to look like gangster rapper. Police say one of the keys to of the keys to identifying

problems is to look at how far

copy cat behaviour goes,

whether it become aspatern of criminality by a criminality by a group or is

more random. The gang behaviour

can be a once off and then

there can be media hype because

it wa as group of people and

because it was a group there

was violence, suddenly it's a gang and unfortunately that

term is used too loosely. We

sought to interview youths who

were displaying what Pat Boyle

referred to as gang behaviour but but as this young man's friends

joined him we were told in no uncertain terms it was time to

leave. People are buying houses

here, thinking it's an up and coming suburb. Dean Martin lived in this air y for most of

his life and while admits to a

troubled past is raising his

family here and say street

gangs have turned the area for

the worst . I'm 33, we've all

made mistakes in life but when

women or my wife or 10-year-old

daughter want to come but

they're scared where do you

draw the line in the sand? Sat

night many young people flock to the CBD. The Salvation run asyouth outreach program

called 614 there. Its head says

he sees many youths who feel

society has little to offer. There are young people

that absolutely feel locked out from family, they're locked out

from education, they're locked

out from employment out from employment and

basically they say to society well you haven't demonstrated

to me you care so why should I care about your standards and

values? Les Twentyman has been

studying how education and

training is steering people

away from street gangs and he wants more resources they say in America, more jobs,

not jails. They're the sort of

things that will change our

mentality around how we deal with with this because this is not going to going to go away. This is going

to get far worse. Our street

gangs are still in their in -

infancy but yes, we have to

have a watchful eye and make

sure some of these kids that we

bring a wholistic approach to this, people like Les and

others to talk to the kids and

the police have to do their bit

as well. Well now to weather. And that's all from you'd like to look back at

tonight's interview with

Stephen Smith or review any of

Lateline's stories or

transcripts you can visit our

website. You can also follow us

on Twitter and Facebook. Tony

Jones will be with you tomorrow. Goodnight. Closed Captions by CSI This Program is Captioned


Good evening, welcome to

Lateline Business, I'm Ticky

Fullerton. Tonight - uranium

sales to India, just how big an opportunity could it be for

Australian companies. Plan to

add another 40 to 45 over the

next several years and I think

by 2035 there should be 65

operating nuclear plants. The

RBA in neutral, no plans to cut

rates before Christmas unless

it has to. They've clearly made

the case that it was close call

in terms of trimming rates in

November and anyway will

clearly see how Europe unfolds

over the next few months. And

on the eve of President obecome

a's visit, a reminder not to

overlook US investment in

Australia. The end of 2010 the

official figures were that US

investment in Australia was

running at about 550 billion

total Chinese investment in

Australia at the end of last

year, $20 billion. To the

markets and with Europe getting

the nerves Jiangling again

investors are sitting on the

sidelines. The All Ords drifted


Australian uranium stocks

received a much-needed boost

with the PM's backing for

lifting of the ban on exports

of uranium to India. But even

if an exception is granted

Australia will have to compete

with other nations already in

position to supply all of

India's needs. As Emily Stewart

explains. The Fukushima nuclear

disaster scared investors away

from uranium mining companies

but they took a few tentative

steps back today on the hope

the Government will lift its

ban on uranium exports to

India. It's actually a breath

of fresh air at the moment.

There's optimism we haven't

seen this the sector for many

months and maybe this is the

turning point we've been

waiting for. There is an

opportunity for Australia to

start to realise its capacity

in reaping the benefits of what

is a natural endowment in uranium. As living standards

improve India's demand for

electricity is growing.

Coal-fired power generation

will continue to dominate but

by 2050 India hopes nuclear

power will supply 25% of its

needs. India has 20 to 22

nuclear plants in operation now

and I think they plan to add

another 40 to 45 over the next

several years and I think by

2035 they should be 65

operating nuclear plants which

is the same number France has

today. Ravi Bhatia from the

Australia India Business

Council says India kourntdly -

currently sources all the

uranium it needs from Canada,

Kazakhstan and Namibia but is keen to secure supply from

Australia too. The reason

Australia is important, there

are several reasons for that.

The primary reason is that

Australia has approximately 31

to 35% of known reserves of

uranium in the world. Secondly,

physically Australia and India

are much closer and I think in

many other terms they're much

closer. There is also the

intangible factor of forming a

trusting relationship. There is

still a supply problem.

Australia has only 3 mine es

Olympic Dam and Beverly mine in

South Australia and ERA's

Ranger in the Northern

Territory. Director of BGF equities Warwick Grigor said

new mines will be needed with

possible investment from Indian

companies. If we export to

India it's got to come from

somewhere, it's not going to

come from existing mine

production because that's all

fully committed. The Minerals

Council of Australia says

Queensland and NSW are still

ideologically opposed to

uranium mining and that means

supplying India may not even be possible. It will add

confidence to companies to

invest in exploration and

production but as I said,

having the market opportunity's

one thing but if the supply

constraints continue in

particularly Queensland and NSW

then clearly the market

opportunities will exist but we

won't be able to supply. The

Labor Party is set to debate

lifting the ban on sales of

uranium to India at its

national conference next month.

To the local market where

uranium stocks were glowing but

not much else was. Earlier I

spoke to Marcus Padley from

Patterson's Securities. Just

moderate losses, a bit of a

breather today really? Yes,

we're in this little consolidation phase. We've

established the bottom of the

trading range in about 3,800 on

the ASX 200, top of the trading

range of about 4,400 and we're

stuck in this sort of 4,350,

4,250 range at the moment

deciding which way to break. If

you talk to a technical analyst

they will say we're going to go

one way or the other and whilst

we're waiting here the volumes

have dropped away. In September

volume was about 5.4 billion a

day, in October $4.7 billion,

we're down to sort of $3.8

billion today and the last few

days looks like we're punch

drunk with volatility and people are losing interest

until we establish some

direction. Looking at these

uranium stocks how should

investors be responding to the

Prime Minister's plan for

uranium sales to India

now? Well, a lot of brokers

will make the investment case

for uranium which has been

there pre-Fukushima and post

Fukushima about the long-term

prospects for the uranium

price. But since Fukushima

you've seen the main sort of

trading stocks Paladin down

80%, deep yellow down 73, tor o

erge - Energy down 60. It's not

really an investment sector as

such because if you take that

long-term view you can still

get destroyed in the short

term. It's more of a traders

sector. I'm not sure that you

would be buying on this alone.

You really want to be buying

into an upward trend in the

uranium price which simply

isn't there at the moment. It's

been going sideways after its

recent falls. You'd really want

to wait for that to start

trending up before you

invested, put it that way. At

the moment it's just a

short-term trade. Takeover for industrial services company Spotless. There's more

speculation a new suitor, of course, what's the company

saying? It is Pacific equity

partner s well known. They had

an approach by Blackstone at

$2.50. The share price closed

at $2.59 and the share price

has jumped to $2.70 in the last

couple of months. It was in the press they were going to get

another approach and even

though it's in the newspapers

today, the share price movement

was tiny today because it's

already had its leap and the

company has said they haven't

had any specific talks with

Pacific Equity. There is no bid

on the table. The implied bid

would be worth about $2.63, I

think it is, against a $2.40

share price now. Everyone

expects it to come, it hasn't

come yets yet. The company's

telling us it's not happening

immediately but the market

doesn't believe it and thinks

something will happen. Thank

you for all that. My

pleasure. And to the other

major movers on the local share

market now.:

As the nation gears up for a lightning visit of the American

president, we thought we'd get

an update on American economic

and political issues

surrounding Barack Obama's trip

which included APEC and the

upcoming East Asia Summit.

Geoffrey Garrett is the

founding CEO of US Fuddies

Centre and spoke to me earlier.

Thanks for joining us. We've

heard a lot over the last few

days about this trans-Pacific partnership that President

Obama has been pushing. It

seems to me that it's very

politically motivated,

particularly concerning

China? I think that's exactly

right. The really TPP is about

tying a bright red ribbon

around a group of countries

that are already connected with

a lot of bilateral FTAs so the

pure economic benefits aren't

as strong. I think the big

message here is that President

Obama and the US would like to

build their own economic

institution in the Asia institution in the Asia Pacific, an economic

institution that would have a

lot of American allies in it

but also very large Chinese

trading partners. So the

proposition to China down the

road would be here's an

institution you will probably

like to join but we're going to

ask you to make some big

domestic concessions to get it

done. Float the currency,

protect intellectual property,

give us more market access.

That's - it's a pretty

aggressive move, I think. From

an Australian point of view we look at balancing relationships

with the US and China because

both are so important. What I

didn't realise relatively at

the moment, what are the

investment figures in Australia? Well, yes, that's

right. I mean everybody looks

at booming Australian trade

with China and when they see

the US they think boy, we don't

do as much trade and we run a

trade deficit. What Australians

tend to overlook is just the

massive scale of American

investment in the country. I

think the figures at the end of

2010 the official figures were

that US investment in Australia

was running at about $550

billion. Total Chinese

investment in Australia at the

end of last year $20 billion.

So we're talking a 25 fold magnitude difference there. Things change very fast,

of course, can you see that

rebalancing within the next 20

years, say? It might take

something like 20 years or

longer. Obviously Australians

are going to have to come to

grips with the notion that

China's going to want to invest

more in the country and certainly Chinese investment

has been growing very rapidly

in Australia but from a very

low base and the other thing I

think that Australians probably

wouldn't notice is that that

American investment figure has

actually increased by about

one-third in the last five

years. You know, we're talking

about a lot of money

there. Let's talk about

President Obama and domestic

politics because what a time to

be away. I note one journalist

saying it's always better to be

in Indiana than Indonesia let

alone Australia. How is he

going to go in terms of the super committee and their

report on November 23? Well, I

think Obama is taking heat from

the left and the right at the

moment at home. This trip is

not going to be a win for him

in the US. So the Republicans

are saying you are an irresponsible leader because

we're only one week out from the super committee's report

and you're choosing to spend it

in the Asia Pacific. At exactly

the same time Democrats are

saying those free trade deals

you want to do we call those

job killers. What that tells me

is that this Asia Pacific

agenda is credible -

incredibly important to Obama

because he's going to have to

suffer some domestic hits to further his foreign policy

agenda. What does Wall Street

thing of Barack Obama? Wall

Street doesn't like Barack

Obama. It's quite interesting.

Barack Obama bailed out Wall

Street and got a lot of

criticism for it but I think

what people on Wall Street say

is listen, you know, you're

telling us you want to tax us

even more, we're already paying

enormous amount in tax in the

US. Give us a break, we're the

engine for the US economy. So

that's not a very good

relationship. I think Obama

actually does better in the corporate community outside New

York than he does on Wall

Street. He's got a few other

problems, hasn't he? He's got

the jobs bill which he's having

great difficulty getting

through and his entire health

care overall which was such a

big thing for him when he was

campaigning last time around,

that's now the subject of a

Supreme Court decision? Yes,

well, the Supreme Court has

said that they're going to

review it officially and we

expect the ruling to happen in

the middle of next year. You

know - That's very bad timing

in the lead up to the November

election next year? Bad or good

timing, you know, the Supreme

Court is an independent

institution, runs to the beat

of its own drum. If you were

predicting today, I think the

tea leaves say in a 5/4

decision the Supreme Court will probably rule important

elements of Obama's health care legislation unconstitutional,

you think that would be a

devastating blow to Obama but

it might give him the chance to

say, you know, to run again

outside Washington. I'm running

against those Republicans who

are blocking things like my

jobs bill. I'm not going to run against the Supreme Court which

is blocking my health care

reform. Finally, a couple of

weeks ago I interviewed Charles

Du Martha he's very strong

about the American Phoenix

rising in the long term and

China and Europe struggling.

You're a supporter of this

theory too? I think in

Australia at the moment the

understandable temptation is to overestimate China and

underestimate the US. But in

the medium term the

fundamentals of the US look

pretty good. Its demographics

are much better than Europe's.

Its welfare state problems

aren't nearly as big and it

remains an extraordinarily

innovative economy. Contrast

that with China, looks great

today but it's going to be old

before it's rich, it's got

massive environmental problems

and of course the social

tensions as the middle class rises and demands more

political power those are only

going to increase as well.

Maybe if we take a 5 to 10-year

perspective there's going to be

a big equestion libation in the

global power. Thanks for

joining us. My pleasure.

Home borrowers now know how

lucky they were. Tamer

inflation at home and the

crisis in Europe allowed the

RBA to cut the rates this month

but the minutes released today

show it was a close call. Reserve Bank governor

Glenn Stevens is the envy of

the central banking world. He's

presiding over a growing

economy with interest rates

high enough to cut. And the

November board minutes suggest

it's an advantage that won't be

easily surrendered. The RBA

certainly isn't making a strong

play for a follow up cut in

interest rates in December.

They've clearly made the case

that it was a close call in

terms of trimming rates in

November and they will clearly

see how Europe unfolds over the

next few months. And the RBA

clearly acknowledges that

conditions in Europe are likely

to deteriorate and that

economies and banks will be

constrained by the need to

recapitalise and reduce

debt. As a result it concludes

the risks to the global economy

still seem to lie predominantly

on the downside. But they also

said they thought about keeping

rates on hold and they thought

about the fact that in a year's

time when the capex cycle is

strong and commodity prices are

still relatively high they may need tighter interest

rates. And resource sector

specialists like James Bruce

see good reason to believe in

that strong commodity and

investment cycle. But he says

mining investment may not yield

the expected pay offs because

it will be expensive investment. I think the

important implication for the

investment community is these

large capital costs and the

lower returns, what does that

mean for the installed capacity

of current producers and

certainly our view is that you

can buy installed capacity for

much cheaper price today than

you have been in the past. The

investment community wasn't too

happy with the Commonwealth

Bank as profitability was hit

by the impact of Europe's

crisis on confidence here. Cash

earnings for the September

quarter rose nearly 10% to

$1.75 billion. But higher funding costs and competition

were eating into the bank's

margins. The operating

environment remain

aschallenging one. Sovereign

debt concerns in Europe

continue to weigh heavily on

the global economic outlook and

will most notalably global

uncertainty is translating into

fragile business and consumer

confidence and weak credit

demand here in Australia. It

was an observation reinforced

by the latest survey from the Australian Chamber of Commerce

and Industry which measures

profits, sales and

prices. Profit growth was very

weak as the business conditions

measure fell to its lowest

level in more than two

years. In fact all the

indicators in this survey were

actually contractionary level

apart from wages and non-wage

labour costs. It suggests the

general weakness might see the

Reserve Bank cut rates again but ironically small business

doesn't get the timely interest

rate relief delivered to home

borrowers. Remember the furore

when entrepreneur Eddie Groves

company ABC Learning went to

the wall back in late 2008

leaving families across

Australia wondering what would

happen to child care. Today the

650 remaining ABC Learning

Centres that have been owned

since 2009 by the not for

profit syndicate Goodstart

Early Learning are rebranded.

The whole child care sector

faces drastic reform. I spoke

to Goodstart Early Learning's

chief executive officer Julia

Davison from Brisbane. Welcome to the program. Good

evening. It's a good mission

statement for Goodstart Early

Learning, working towards the

continuous education of early

services through high training

programs that meets the

industry. How would you rate

your performance against that

mission? As you probably know

we're a new organisation that

was set up to take over 650 of

the failed ABC Sen - centres an

we've been working very hard

over the last 15 months to

improve the quality of our

services. We've invested $10

million in training our staff

and we've been going lots of

things a cross the whole

country. So I would think we've

made a good start but there's

still a lot for us to do. No

pun intended. Big changes this

year of course. We've got the

first national quality

standards coming through. Tell

me how much of a shock did you

get when you opened the books

of ABC Learning in terms of

staff qualifications because

it's something that Eddie

Groves boasted about? What I

would say is that I think our

staff qualifications reflect those of the rest of the

sector. Australia does not have

a highly qualified work force

compared with many countries in

the rest of the world. So you

weren't shocked when you took

over the ABC Learning at the

level of it? No, no. And I

myself knew that the work force

challenges are one of our

biggest challenges. I mean to

meet the new national quality

reforms at Goodstart we need to

employ 2,000 additional staff,

we have 1,700 staff with no

qualifications and we need to

recruit an additional 500

teachers but we're well down

that track. As I understand it

30% of child care workers

across the sector don't have

any formal qualifications. When

you think of a teacher at

school they're required to have

qualifications, they've got an

ongoing program of education

and yet child care workers

haven't had any of this before

and a lot of them have - are

paid $15 an hour, it's a big

change that's got to happen,

sbt it?Or It's a big change and

it's a important one. The first

5 years are really important

and they really make a

difference to people's lives. You're committed to

disadvantaged children in making a difference with

particular, Yao uf got two

levels to your business, don't

you? We have a particular

inclusion agenda and that's

about looking at what we can do

to include more at risk and

vulnerable children in our

centres. And that's not just disadvantaged children. We've

been working with a number of

other providers talking to

people who provide services for

children with hearing

disabilities, people who

provide services for children

with other disabilities to try

to make our services more

accessible. Your background is

very much in the health sector

and I understand that these

sorts of projects are being

started in South Australia and

Victoria rather than in

Queensland which is where Eddie

Groves came from and ABC

learning came from. Is there a

reason for that? Is that

because that's where you hail

from? The reason we started in

South Australia is that we've

got the highest number of

centres in South Australia in

low socioeconomic areas. So

we've got 6 of our centres in

souflt Australia were in see

for one post codes. It gives us

a good opportunity to connect

up with other services.

Victoria we decided to pilot

some of our inclusion

initiatives because of some

strong relationships we've got

there in particular with the

centre for community child

health. There are suggestions

that the pressure to raise

fees, to get the ratios right

and to get qualified teachers

on board will force children

into backyard care, do you

think that's going to happen? Look, we're doing

everything we possibly can to

minimise the impact on fees

with our families. So our fees

in some of our Senor - centres

they won't go up at all in

January. So in WA we already

meet the ratio, the fees won't

go up. In NSW our fees went up

last year, they went up on

average around $2 and we didn't

lose families there through the

implementation of the changes

and across the rest of the

country our fees will go up on

average between $2 and $3 per

child per day. Finally, Eddie

Groves and ABC Learning

obviously left a very bitter

taste in some people's mouths

in terms of the subsidies that

the company sucked up as a

private company. Do you think

this has damaged the reputation

of private child care? I'm not

familiar enough with the

industry, I'm new to the

industry, I'm from the health

sector, but what I do know is

that the ABC Learning brand is

tarnished and we know that from

our own research when we've

asked families if they will

consider enrolling their child

in one of our centres when we

first asked families that only

40% of families said yes. When

we told them that the ABC

Learning Centres were now owned

by a company Goodstart that was

a not for profit and we asked

them now that they knew that

would they consider enrolling

their child the number of

families that said yes doubled.

So I think that really tells

the story. That answers the

question. Alright. Julia

Davison, thanks for joining us

tonight. Thank you very much.

And before we go a look at

what's making business news in

overseas newspapers. The

'Financial Times' says mass

toll dodging has dented profits

from the Greek road operations

of the German construction

group and Leighton's owner

Hochtief. Britain's 'Daily

Telegraph' says Spain and

Italy's borrowing costs are

soaring as economists warn

Europe is sliding into

recession and Angela Merkel is

defying intense pressure and

ruling out issuing European

Ghan teed debt. The 'Wall

Street Journal' says Warren

Buffet has ploughed $10.5

billion into shares in IBM

making a massive bet on a technology services company

after years of shunning technology stocks. And that's

all for tonight. I'm Ticky Fullerton. Thank you for

watching, goodnight. Closed

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COMMENTATOR: In the closing stages of this race, Jan Falkowski and Drew Langdon in Buzzi Bullet have fought hard to stay in first place as they ride in the final corner. They've done it! Langdon and Falkowski are the winners! What a fantastic achievement! Wonderful to see! (Cheering and applause) What time is it? Oh, my God. I'm gonna be late. Oh, gotta go, Falkowski. No, no, come here. Lovely... (Laughs) (Grunts) Jan! (Phone rings) Bernice Falkowski. Come on, we've got to go. You sure you got everything there? You're gonna make us late. Come on. You sure? No, no, you haven't. You haven't. Oh, my phone. My mobile. Actually... You haven't forgotten anything. No, Jan. You haven't forgotten... Oh, no, here it is. (Giggles) Oh, look, it's such a lovely day. Not at all. Glad to help. Typical Jan. Ordered flowers for Debbie's birthday and forgot to give the florist the address. I'm not working at the hospital today, Mum. No, no worries. Probably just a mistake. Goodbye, Mum. It's not your birthday, is it? D'uh, Libra, remember? I was thinking, the alternative of this, we hop on a train and buy the wedding champagne in France. (Mobile phone rings) Falkowski. Hello? It'd be a great excuse to go over there tasting for a weekend? Mmm. (Mobile phone rings) Falkowski. (Second mobile phone rings) Hello? Someone really, really wants to get a hold of us today. Hello? Withheld number. (Mobile phone rings) Who is this, please? (Mobile phone beeps)