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CC Hello and welcome to Garrett. Coming up - Garrett. Coming up - what makes

a house sustainable - a hour of some of Canberra's best. And family day care - in the debate

it provide the third way? about institutional care, does

First, though, drink driving A few weeks ago we reported on First, though, drink driving .

the case of Samantha Moffat,

whilst driving drunk. She spoke who killed her best friend

to us of her anguish, guilt and

remorse. As a result of the program, another Canberra woman - Kerri Kellett - contacted us,

wishing to meet with Samantha Moffat. Kerri Kellett was 12 when a drunk driver crashed into the car in which she was a passenger, killing three family members. Gordon Taylor takes up the story of a poignant meeting between two women linked by tragedy. Samantha Moffat's world changed forever when drunk and speeding she smashed her car and killed her best friend, mother of

like I just wanted to die with Herringe. I felt sick. I felt

her. I didn't want to I mean, at first it was like it was some sort

someone had said that as a joke that really - a really hurtful joke. Until it all sunk it and I realised it was actually true and she was gone and I realised it was all

because of me. It 's an accident that will never leave her. Kerri Kellett will always remember her accident as remember her accident as well.

A victim of a crash 30 years

ago, she was left in a coma and battling for life. She was 12, and with if world in front of her when a drunken driver smashed into her family's car,

killing her grand parents who were also her guardians and her

great grandmother: It was like having a sick meal - feeling terrible has happened your stomach when somebody

don't know how to react to it. For me, it was like being suspended in this point in time because it was like finding out that everyone was dead, that my whole life had changed, that there was nothing to go back know what the future held at but at the same time I didn't

all. At 12, looked very just won a 6-year scholarship to a prestigious private school. She was talented at pi European Uniono, violin and singing and she had a family. So singing and she had a loving

Samantha Moffat tell family. So when she heard of

Kerri Kellett found Samantha Moffat tell her story,

great deal of sympathy and respect for Moffat. With respect for Moffat. With so

two women to meet. This much in common, we arranged for

Samantha. Nice to meet

you. It's a chance for

reflection, sympathy and healing. Although one is the perpetrator of a crime killed, the other a victim, the two have much in common, like when they tried to get their lye Bags back after an accident

had irreparably chaingedz their I struggled a limit bit - I wofrmtd As 12-year-old I think

even asked them to bring my violin into the hospital. thought it was just business as violin into the hospital. I

usual in a way. That things would just go on. It was only over the course of my period in

hospital that I started to nowhere to go home to that I'm think, hang on, there is

familiar with and the people that loved me aren't here

anymore. What about my pets? So I don't know - for a long time I didn't get my life together

and it wasn't until my late 20s

that I got my life

back. Samantha, you've had a similar experience? Yes, I thought there and then my life would never be the same and I could never be the person I before. I didn't think I could never be the person I was much to live for after that. So before. I didn't think I had

despair from both you? Despair and I think for me despair from both of

probably a key word and a key as at the feeling in retrospect as well feeling in retrospect as

utter powerlessness. All this

stuff had happen and you were powerless about how it, how to go forward. I think powerless about how to react to

that is just how really. You told me that as a

how you would react if you met teenager you often wond erred

the man that caused your accident. I did. You obviously the man that caused your car

haven't been able to meet him. How is it like meeting Samantha

for the first time who, sure she didn't cause your accident, but how does that feel? It actually feels good, I think, because, having watched your previous program, I think that Samantha is really what she's Samantha is really sorry for

she will ever do it again. So what she's done. I don't think

it's like for me being able to

forgive someone for go doing whatever they did. The guy that caused my accident, I understand had no re pen and so I would like to see him understand had no re pen tense

rot in jai. As a teenager

thought this through and I thought if he's horrible then do want to see him 23 jail but thought if he's horrible then I

if he was genuinely sorry I think the experience would be so horrible to live with that I

would go up and say that I forgave him if that helped him. Is that how you feel for does that make you feel? I Samantha? Yes. Samantha, how

Kerri's emill. I didn't think I shocked when I first read

would get any forgiveness the community and reading her email made me feel like there is people

see two sides of the story and

Kerri has been through it's even more for me because

lot because of Kerri has been through such a

driver. So you don't need any reminding, Samantha, happened reminding, Samantha, of what situation was. But you haven't

been able to talk to the family

Does meeting Kerri make you of your friend, Lyn Herringe.

feel that that would be a valuable thing for valuable thing for you to be able to do, to actually talk able to do, to actually talk to the the people that have been hurt by this? Yes, I would love to be able to walk up to them and be able to say sorry to their face. I did in court but I there was more that I could have done then. I would see them and have a chat with them. But meeting Kerri has given me that feeling that that could happen one could happen one day, around the corner some time that they

could - I am not asking for forgiveness but just to be able to talk to them and tell them

how deeply sorry I am. We have a drunking kilt nuclear Australia, a very mates culture

where if you don't drink you're considered to be a wowser, how can you get through that culture? Maybe it's a matter of exposing people to actually happen through people

like us talking, through seeing photographs, interviews with people, and I don't think the

police can do it alone. If

police do it, Australians are very rebellious against that. I think it's hearing from the victims and, you know, when I say victim I think Samantha is

a victim as well in that she is a victim of the Australian culture, which doesn't culture, which doesn't take this stuff seriously. I

really feel as the victim as such. I strongly believe such. I strongly believe I am the perpetrator. But I think my family are victims - my son,

and the closest people to me.

Lyn's families are victims and Kerri is a victim too of someone that did this to someone that did this to her family. I feel sad inside every day because, yes, my life changed. But I am going to make

it better. Kerri, your accident happened 30 years ago, happened 30 years ago, do you still carry that with still carry that with you? You carry it with you every I've worked really hard to get my life back to where I think

it would have been if my life had carried on from when I was 12 with my private school and my ballet. I've worked hard to get that success back, I gs. At the same time I know if I get in the car and someone drive s drive s eradically I practically hyper ventilate. I know I expect the worst things so I instead of things so I instead of thinking it will be alright, what if this happens and that happens, and close to people is

hard too because you have this

innate feeling that, if you get close to someone, close to someone, they're going to die or go away and then you have to have to go through that pain again. So it's with you all the time. And, Samantha, you actually killed your best friend. That must be very present for you? Yes, it's a terrible feeling. I have this

feeling to the day I die. I feel for Lyn's daughter s. I

think about them a lot. So, yeah, a lot has changed. Do you think you can make a difference? I would like think so. Me too. Even if only a few people will take it a few people will take it in, you know, that's 50 few people that could be saved from road deaths. I would like to use what was a really negative

experience for me, a negative

experience that I guess few people comparatively have experienced and turn it into something positive by talking about my experiences and working with the police to talk know, I would be happy to talk to any group that is to any group that is interested

in hearing what can happen. I think the word and really the word and really making people aware of it. I agree totally. I would like to do

that as well. If we could work together, it would be better because Kerri being the victim and me being the perpetrator we

could show both sides so that could work really could work really well. And Kerri spoken at one high school about her experiences, more talks to

schools are planned by both

women. A few weeks ago, children's author Mem Fox declared sending babies to child care was akin to child abuse. It ro revived an old debate and raised questions about what form about what form of child care is best for children. One often overlooked option perhaps providing the best of both

worlds is family day care. Poll - Melissa Polimeni reports. Did you bring your dolly again today? For many, this scene closely resembles chaos. For Caroline Wolthof, it is Justice another weekday morning, a start to her working day at home. It's Catherine and Judy.

Hi, darling. This is family day

care and for the parents who rely on it, it's a home away from home for their children. We call Caz our second mum. She is always

there. So it's been great It's part of part of the extended family. James loves family. James loves coming here. He talks about these guys

at home all the time. Say, bye mum. Since the 1970s, family day care has been an option for parents 24 hours a

day, seven days a week. It's currently used by around 90,000 families nationally families nationally in and more than 1,000 locally. It's child care offered in a licensed carers' home and those using and providing the service promote promote it as a good child care alternative. When my first was born, I decided to

home and look after him. And then I had my second son. then I had my second son. I used to take them to used to take them to the playgroups and someone said why

don't you try family day care. I had no idea what it was. And I thought why not. So applied, started part-time and my children just loved it. In it was only a few years ago

they found I got paid to have children. They thought I had

children here for their benefit. From her north Canberra home, Caroline Wolthof

has been playing the role of second mum to dozens of children for 20 years. So

there's one of my roles to be the mother of But it's a lot more than that. It is a very professional job.

It is a very personal relationship between families and myself. Families sometimes go through rough patches so I'm here to assist and support here to assist and support them with their issues. And to give their children a loving environment and lots of things

to do when they're here. You have one child care worker for the children, the same carer greets you in the morning when you come and says goodnight to you when you go,

which is important for a lot of families. We have our own families too, families too, so children in

single child families certainly

benefit from the small family group rather than perhaps group rather than perhaps a larger larger centre. Canberra

paediatrician Sue Packer says the smaller numbers in family day care are of some but could have droubacks as well. It does have the well. It does have the huge advantage that you have the

baby in a home-sized environment. This has the advantage, if it's a carer whom you have great confidence in and share a lot and share a lot of parenting ideas with, that the baby could be in a more intimate caring

environment. But equally family day carers don't have as day carers don't have as much

support as people in the child care centre. They don't much supervision. And a lot comes down to how much and how well we know people who are caring for our baby. Mostly, thank goodness, family day thank goodness, family day care

and child care is done by

people who really love children. But it doesn't necessarily mean that their priorities in caring for priorities in caring for a child are the child are the parents' priorities in caring for the child. It is a smaller environment for things like

excursions to the shop s, excursions to the parks, and things which we more associate

with everyday childhood. And this should be an advantage and in some cases probably is an advantage. But it is not an expectation that you can have without thinking and inquiring about it. Was it the car about it. Was it the car who also fell? Also Mem Fox's recent likening of child care being like child abuse has attracted attracted criticism. People in child care even if caring people don't have caring people don't have the same intense love for same intense love for this baby that the parents that the parents have. They don't get the same buzz of delight when the baby learns a new trick. And it's these buzzes and intense caring which really help this baby to learn their emotional and their emotional and social self. And it's this early learning which determines late er learning in babyhood and goes on to be the way they

respond in school and then in their adult life social interactions. One of the things has to be that we

ensure that the people outside the family caring for our child are as knowledgeable and supported as possible to do the very best job possible. I am

committed to giving families quality care. I think child deserves the best care

they can get and it's a wonderful career as well. We've had a lot children come through over the years and they sort of grow up and off they go and we catch up with them sometimes, see their parents. It's a wonderful feeling. This weekend, the nation focuses on sustainable focuses on sustainable housing. It's a concept that's surprisingly simple and surprisingly simple and cost effective. effective. Whether building from scratch, or making small changes to existing dwellings, home owners can cut their energy use, save money and help the environment along the way. I took a tour this week I took a tour this week of three very different sustainable Canberra homes, with local architect Ric Butt. Ric Butt, we're talking about sustainable housing. Tell us about the unique design of

this place. This is one of our

millennium series. One has a curved roof, what's important about it is its orientation. That is to true north. What we particularly like about this

one is the scult p tural effect of the kuvern ed roof and the reason for the kuverned roof is the convection currents that we create inside to transfer create inside to transfer the heat from the northern side the southern side. There is a total glass fas yaed facing north so we get the north so we get the winter sunshine coming sunshine coming in. The backyard opens up in a wedge shape and that orientation to north means we don't north means we don't get the summer sun coming in as well to cause overheating. Hello: This is John and Elaine. Nice to

see you, very kind of you to show us your beautiful

home. How comfortable is it here? Pretty good. What are you doing? We're looking through our electricity and gas bills. And you're smiling. For the whole of last year we only

spent $600 on electricity and less than $300 on gas. That's amazing. How does that

work? Fundamental good design. That's the starting point. There are no trick, There are no trick, no photovoltaic photovoltaic electricity. There

is no solar hot water heaters. This is good design - you need orientation to the north and

all the glazing that we saw on the outside, thermal mass,

building is build of concrete, highly insulate ed on the outside, the inallation goes down the slab into the ground, and some cross ventilation through. Catherine what we've done in the planning done in the planning is we've

put all the wet areas on the south side. And that means that they don't get as much sun coming through but the warm air from the south side is able to circulate over the top after

all the cupboards here, and

through the sliding glass panels we've put up the top panels we've put up the top on this side so we're able to coninvestigate the hot air across the the south side. We How does this work? That simp nl design. That is for summer time cooling. If summer time cooling. If you

have a look inside it over here, what you will here, what you will see is a louvre system that opens louvre system that opens up to

let the hot air out. When there is no summer breeze we can use the effect that the effect that hot air rises.

It draws in cool air from the outside because the temperature has started to drop in Canberra and it expels it out there through there. So when there is no breeze we can draw air

through we can create air moflt f movement which create s a cooling effect. This is our next house and it's totally different. This block of land didn't allow us to do a long narrow house, so we had to cut it in half and stack one on top of the other. same principle. It has the northern side, northern side, the thermal mass

inside. The walls of this home look extremely thick and

sturdy. Tell us about them. These walls are precast

concrete sandwich panel wall force outside. That is force outside. That is two

layers of concrete with a layer of polystyrene in the middle. So eswre the thermal mass on the inside, the concrete is fire proof, you don't have to have a lot of technology and tells and whistles. fundamentals of even single

glades windows as long as you

have them properly low kaentd

high thermal mass and you insulate it air. If you can use Canberra's climate with every block climate with every block of land in Canberra, you get that for free. For this house it was a very good brief, an architect's delight. What we first of all had from Paul they wanted to maximise the climate of Canberra. They recognised that Canberra has a specific climate. They naturally wanted to recognise the block of land and use the maximum benefit maximum benefit swres here particularly with the location

and the view. With all that glass, wonderful on a sunny day like today but what happens when we don't have the sun terms of the heat? Our houses work really well at reducing energy when the sun is energy when the sun is out. Wh 'Financial Review' you don't have the sun on a cloudy day, we design the thermal mass

inside to carry over for a few days. So this days. So this house orientated to the north and that set up a diagonal line to allow us to get views across the house to the lake. Tell us about sustainable elements of this area here. We have area here. We have orientation to north of course with sun come ing in. In this house we've double gliezed the window s so we can reduce the need s so we can reduce the need for curtains and closing off that beautiful view swre. mass in the floor and waum, high level of insulation high level of insulation and good cross ventilation. So the stairs are one of the main features. They're in

space in the building. So we're

now on the top part of the house, the deck, standing the solar chimney. Yes, it's a much larger, it has the same elements - windows same elements - windows around

the top to let the hot air out in the summer time tells me when he remember remembers to open house is 12 degrees cooler in

the morning. It am betting this house has a pretty good view. Come and have a look. How would you like to wake up to this? I think I could handle it. Main bal it. Main bal conyi. Very special. But sustainable houses don't have to be quite as grand. But they do capitalise on the climate and the environment that we do have.

That's very special here in Canberra. So all shapes and sizes. Every different type for every different Budget. Bit's about the fundamental principles of good design I've

been ex plain ing. And then sit

back and enjoy the view. And the therapeutic bofts living in a sustainable house. Pretty good. Now Canberra Stella Rae Zelniks. Her work focuses on the focuses on the local skating community, captured flu eyes of an outsider. eyes of an outsider. This exhibition has been a part exhibition has been a part of the Vivid festival and featured at the national convention

centre. O Rosa Yee produced the story. 'All Work and No Play' just means they work really hard at what they do and this is their play, this is their life. I really want ed to show the view

from an outsider's perspective. I want people to really understand understand the depth of these people in general, and the

that they live, they have such

rich culture. I want people to see that there is an art form to skating. There is such a mateship, a true bond, between all of them.

And I think you can tell the

friendship between all of them. At. At the moment, I just use

a little olumpus, just old-school film. So that old-school film. So that allows me to just shoot me to just shoot spontaneously. I just really enjoy the I just really enjoy the fact that I can get into people's

faces and take photos and

document things. I becomes a habit just to go out there habit just to go out there and

take the shot. You just instantly start to ingrain this vision into you that this is what you're seeing, this is what you're look at and you take that photo and it sucks when you miss that photo

because you will never get it again. I think the good about Canberra is that you have to find it. Whereas sthee and

Melbourne you can walk down the

streets, you 've got interest ing people everywhere and ing people everywhere and it doesn't push you as a photographer to find those places. You have to really dig for the shot that you want and you have to go to the streets of Canberra, you have

to explore it as much as you can to get a location find the right sort of style, which is what I think is it's pushing you completely. To be my first exhibition is

I've just wanted to have an

exhibition and just show people my style. Where it's always always been over the Internet

and it doesn't give it that sense sense of accomplishment. For

this to be on the wall is really a fabulous thing. And that's the program for another week. And don't forget you can view all our stories again, or download again, or download the transcripts from our website.

They should all be there on Monday. Do enjoy your Monday. Do enjoy your weekend

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