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CC Hello and welcome to

Territory Stateline. Coming up

- the bedate over homeland education, should the

government provide full-time

teachers in every outstation.

And Ted Egan says goodbye to

Darwin after four years as

administrator. He mightn't

wield a bat like Steve Waugh,

he doesn't look like Nicole

Kidman, but he really does

deserve a place beside them on

the list of Australian national

living treasures.

APPLAUSE

First, at the end of week 2

the dominant themes of the

election campaign are beginning

to bite. The Prime Minister has

conceded today his party's 2004

promise to keep interest rates

at record lows was a mistake

and Kevin Rudd has expelled a

union boss from the Labor

Party. Meanwhile, Peter

Costello warned of a coming

economic tsunami and both sides

accused each other of running a

scare campaign. Three more

years! At the end of week two,

a third of the way into the

six-week campaign, the senior

figures in the Government might

supporters' enthusiasm isn't well be wondering if their

perhaps a little premature.

Three more years must still

seem a long way off. A wormed

debate a bad poll and some bad

inflation figures have made

week 2 a difficult one. There are still four weeks to go and

there's plenty of fight to

come. When it comes down to

it, the Australian people will

walk into the ballot box,

thinking about their future and

the future of their families.

Investing in an untried,

inexperienced Labor team is not

going to deliver to Australian

s the sort of future they need.

It's my great pleasure to have

Australia's greatest ever

treasurer open my campaign

office. Please welcome Peter CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Costello.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Surely

the Liberals can't be worried

about North Sydney. Joe Hockey

holds it by nearly 10%.

Insiders say there are some

weird things going on in New

South Wales and that State is looking like one of the real

trouble spots for the

Government. As Joe Hockey said,

one of the Government's big

hopes is that as the signs of

economic fragility become more

apparent, voters will simply be

too worried about the risk of

switching to Labor. Today Mr

Costello gave that idea an even

bigger nudge with an interview in the 'Sydney Morning Herald'.

A tsunami is coming, he says,

with China at its centre that

will engulf world financial

markets and now is not the time

for the Reserve Bank to

consider lifting interest rates

or for the voteers to flirt

with a change of Government. I

think the Chinese economy will continue to grow but it won't

in a controlled and even way.

It will grow with fits and

starts and there'll be great

global realignments as that

process takes place. I'm just

asking people, do they really

think that a union dominate the

Labor Government could manage

the economy better at a time of international economic

turbulence? Than the present

government that's got a track

economic success. That's the record of 11.#r5 years of

question that has to be asked. It's a about the future. It's

not about the past. The unions,

the US subprime crisis a wages

explosion, the expected China

turbulence that may yet be some

years off and even interest rate rises, it's te rises, it's al n the r te rises, it's al n

and the Government's warnings and the Gove nment's warni gs rate rises, it's all in the mix

about Labor risk. The Labor

leader says the past is as

important as the future. Mr

Costello's been treasurer of

Australia for 11 years. His

responsibility is to prepare

Australia for future economic

challenges. Int speaking the

past, in 2004 a Liberal Party

ad promise end writing at

least, that interest rates

would remain at record lows,

this morning John Howard

consided almost - conceded

almost that that was a broken promise. Well... Interest

rates... Um, are not at record

lows now, ip understands that.

Your advertising promised that. The advertising did refer

to that for two nights, I

accept that. Mr Howard is

saying his promise at the last

election on interest rates

lasted two nights age therefore

didn't really count. A lot of

Australians who vote for Mr

Howard at the last election did

think it counted. Now they're

paying the price for it with

five interest rate

have dominated the campaign rises. Another potential rise

this week. As has the

Government's relentless warning

about the power of the union

bosss in any Labor

government. Although the 70% figure used to describe the

make jun of any future Labor

front bench is disputed it's

clear Labor is well aware of

the potentialy of - po tensy of

this attack. He's too fat, he's

too small. Today the Labor

leader moved to expel this man

from the Labor Party. Do have

to wonder why he didn't do it

months ago. Today, there was a

move from both sides into the

other big area of voter

concern, climate change. In

Perth, John Howard was

pleblging money for research

into wave power, and elsewhere

in the city Kevin Rudd was promising half a billion

dollars for solar panels ains

rainwater tanks for every

school in the country. Climate

change is a hot topic, everyone agrees there's a problem but

there's one area of this debate

that's hotter than any

other. Our policy differences

with the government on climate

change are absolutely

clear-cut. Remember, Mr

Howard's big answer on climate

change is this - nuclear

reactor s, 25 of them around

the Australian coastline.

That's Mr Swit ov ski's report,

he has said construction or

planting would need to begin

within 12 months of an

election. I think we have to be

adult about this. This - we've

heard a lot about fear campaigns in the last come of weeks. The greatest fear

campaign running around on this

issue is this nuclear fear campaign that the Labor Party

is running, how on earth you can claim to be the prime

minister of Australia and offer

a vision for the future and

claim to offer a vision for the

future when you're saying under

no circumstances will we look

at nuclear power, no matter how compelling the evidence might

be. The Prime Minister says

nuclear power wouldn't be

feasible in Australia for at

least 10 or 15 years but like the fear of unions this is one

attack that is unlikely to end

soon. The other real fear

campaign the Prime Minister has

on his hands at the moment is

the one running in Bennelong

just door to Joe Hockey's. He's

back there again this weekend

the, the polls suggest he will

be there every Saturday until

24 November. Under the Federal

Government's indigenous

intervention parents could have

their welfare payments cut if

they don't send their children

to school. But a full-time

teacher is only a pipe dream in

many areas. One tiny Arnhem

Land outstation is fighting to

gets its children an education

on their own country.

Out on a curve the Arnhem

Land coast there is a place

called Mapuru. As the crow

flies it's about 500km

north-east of Darwin, in

another sense it's a world

away. It's a happy, healthy

community where there's no

alcohol and violence isn't a

problem. Traditional life is

strong and the women have

started a tourism venture and

business out of weaving

baskets. About 40 children live

at Mapuru and there is a school

building, according to rt

Territory Government the

children are only qualified to

a qualified teacher three days

a week. Out on non indigenous

communities throughout

Australia, there could be six,

seven, eight children going to

school in one school and yet

there'd be a Premier qualified

teacher. Here, we have more

than 14 children attending

school and they've only got

assistant teacher, which is far

from getting quality in

education. There are big inconsistencies in which Territory children get a full-time teacher and which

ones don't. There are 50 places

at like Mapuru that have

indigenous students and are

classified as homeland learning

centres. Some have more than 30

children, they get a teacher

for between one and three day

asweek. The Mapuru elders have

been asking the Territory

Government for a full-time

teacher for years. We have

asked so many times people from

Department of Education, we

have spoken, we have written

letters, we have complained as

far as probably up to the

Minister for Education. And

people have always knocked back

and I guess not interested in

listening. By contrast there's

a school in the Douglas Daly

that has five white students

and it gets a teacher

full-time. (reading aloud) The

education Minister says Mapuru

deserves to be congratulated

for getting so many children to

class but he says there are

limits to what the government

can provide. I've asked

department to look at how we

better provide education

services right across the

Northern Territory to these

very small isolated communities

where it's just not feasible or logistically appropriate to

have a fully fledged schools. The days when there's

no teacher at Mapuru it's left

to local assistant teachers

like Roslyn Malngunba to show

the children how to read, write

and speak in English. She

thinks a fully qualified

teacher would improve the

children's results.

The nearist school with a

full-time teacher is a plane

ride away on Elcho Island and

the community doesn't want the

comirn going there. Too many drugs, petrol,...

The education department's

latest report shows only about

a third of the Territory's indigenous children meet

National benchmarks for

reading, writing and maths by

the time they're in year five.

And even fewer reach the

benchmark by the time they're

in year 7. (calling out the answer)

answer) The Education Minister

doesn't think these children

are getting a raw deal. He says the students at Homeland

learning centres achieve close

to the same results as children

at schools. I see those reports

and certainly a lot of those

homed learning centres are the

same as the bigger hub schools

around, you know, 20% of those

students. This man has been an

assistant teacher at Mapuru for

more than 20 years. He set up a

small shop to generate some

money and teach the children

about numbers. Everything cost

as multiple of $5. Because 5 is

easy for the kids, they can

learn 5 and 10 and 15. He says

the children are desperate for

a better education. I'm just

worrying they are starving for English. And starving for

maths. The Territory Government has committed to bringing

Aboriginal reading and writing

standards up to the rest of the

populations within 20 years.

The education minister says the

Territory's $3 billion budget

doesn't stretch to providing

all students with qualified

teachers. We are not funded to

provide fully fledged schools

for every tiny remote community

across the Northern Territory.

It's not practical, it's not

feasible, and you certainly

wouldn't be able to attract the

teachers in the sorts of

numbers we'd need to attract

across the vast land mass of

the Northern Territory. He is

offering some hope to the

people at Mapuru. I have made a

commitment to send somebody

from DFAT over the next couple

of weeks and report back to me

as to how we can better support

Mapuru homeland learning centre

given the numbers of students

that are attendsing and the

attendance rate that they're

achieving there. The community

will have its fingers firmly

crossed. We want to be equal in

education, we want to be equal

in life and just give us a

chance, give us a go. (speaking

native language) There are

more than 50 homeland learning

centres like Mapuru that don't

have a full-time teacher. A

report commissioned by the

Australian Education Union says

there are about 7,500 children

in the Northern Territory

currently missing out on an

education. It says providing an

education to all children in

the Territory would cost an

extra $1.7 billion over five

years. Earlier I spoke to the

Territory's Education Minister

Paul Henderson. Welcome to the

program. Great to be here. The

Unions report estimates about 7,500 children in the Territory

are missing out on schooling

because of a lack of basic

infrastructure. The education

department has disputed that

figure. Can you tell us how many children in the Territory

are missing out on schooling

atth moment? We just don't have

that figure. The estimation we

have as a Government is around

2,000. That's why we're keen to

work with the Commonwealth

Government through their

welfare reform it is identify

how many children who aren't at

school should be enrolled and

attending school. We don't

believe it's 7,000. We think

it's around 2,000. Who are

these 2,000 chin? Again, it's

just a collection of numbers

that we've picked frup around

the Northern Territory, from

communities that we think

should be at school who aren't

at school. At the end of the

day because they're not

enrolled we don't specifically

know, but we think the number

is around 2,000. As education

minister, I want to see each

and ef one of those kids in our

schools on a regular basis. Without any firm

figures, how are you going to

provide the resources necessary

if those kids do end up going

to school? Through the closing

in the gap announcement the

chief minister made a couple of

months ago, we've been

allocated an additional $70

million over the next five

years to provide for additional

teachers, additional classrooms

and additional teacher housing

in the bush, so we have the

funding, we are recruiting the

teachers now and we're going to

be able to deploy those

classrooms as those kids tush

up to school. - turn up to

school. $70 million is a pretty

good start but if the kids turn

up we'll have classrooms and

teachers there, an absolute

guarantee. You are convinced if

the 2,000, or if the union's to

be believed more than 2,000

children, started going to

school on a regular basis in

the very near future the

education would be ready and

there would be adequate

teachers? If those children

turned up - of course we can't

wave a magic wand and put $70

million worth of additional classrooms and teachers in the

burrs. We want to work with the

Commonwealth in staged way over the next couple of years to

roll out their reforms. If the

Commonwealth work with us we'll

be ready to do it. The Union

says if all children were to

participate fully an additional

700 teachers would be required.

Do you agree with that

figure? I welcome the Union's

report because calling for money for education I would

support. But the numbers I

think are pretty woolly. The

700 teachers is based on 7,000

students. We don't believe

there are 7,000 kids out there

not attendsing school at the

moment. The Union says that

figure is based on they bleav

that the ratio to teachers to

students for English as a

second language student or by

Lang waum education should be

one teach er to 10 students -

bilingual students. I'd like to

see that ratio improved. Is it realistic? I don't know whether

it is realistic, because where

are we going to get the

teachers from? Kevin Rudd has

committed an extra $30 million

for extra teachers. The Unions

said learning centres are

operating without a full-time

teacher. Will those children or

does the Government expect

those children to travel in

order to access a teacher full-time? We're courage

looking at the homeland

learning centre policy at the

moment. 54 schools without a

full-time teacher, some do have

is too many. I think there is a

case for children to travel to

schools where there are proper

schools, qualified teachers. We're looking at that thank

whole policy at the moment. Can

I move on to another topic the

Union raised again about your

four-year plan to improve

student outcomes in the

Territory. The Union says it

amounts for performance based

pay for teachers which will

discriminate against teachers

at schools in disadvantaged

areas. Is that a fair criticism

of that policy? It is unfair. I

don't know the unions read the

policy. This is about every

school in the Northern

Territory settings goals for

attendsance, setting goals

through - and having clear

plans in place at a school

level for teachers, parents,

students to attain those goals.

It's not about performance

based pay. The only people who are talking about performance

based bay Pay are the Liberal

Party and this - in this

current election contest. What

kind of guarantee can you give

to Anzac Hill High School

students and their parents

about their school's future? I

gave them a guarantee this week

the school will be up and

running as planned for 2008. As

we evaluate middle schooling

and see how middle school

something working in the best

interests of students ongoing I

rule nothing in, rule nothing

out. But we have no plans to

close Anzac hill as of today. Thanks for your

time. That's, Melinda.

He has been singer a writer

and an Aboriginal patrol

officer. Now Ted Egan's about

to wrap up his stint as the

Territory's 18th administrator.

He move out of Government House

on Tuesday to make way for his

successor, the outgoing

solicitor general Tom Pauling.

We look back at his four-year

term and what lies ahead. Sad,

but another new chapter of

life. The who's who of Darwin

turned out at Parliament House

this week to mark the end of an

era and say goodbye to Ted Egan

after four years at Government

House. With four

administrators past, present

and future on hand it wasn't

long before talk turned to the

collective noun for the

selective group who've hell the

post. Is it a madness of

administrators, an accumulation

of administrators? It was a

bitter sweet occasion as Ted

Egan and his partnerneris Evans

enjoyed the company of a room

full of their closest friends.

He mightn't wield a bat like

Steve Waugh, he doesn't look

like Nicole Kidman, but he

really does deserve a place

beside them oon the list of

Australian national living treasures.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Next

Tuesday we get driven out, yes

there will be tears and yes

there will be mixed emotion s.

We will start a new chapter.

Tom and Tessa will take over

and do it with great flair and

aplomb. Until his appointment

four years ago, this was how most Territorianses would've

known Ted Egan.

# When they drew a chalk line

and said walk that,

# I said I can't I'm too bloody

well pissed # Seen here in 'A

drop of rough Ted fl the

outgoing administrator made his

way as an entertainer.

#... Bloody good drinkers in

the Northern Territory". The

man who played the lagger phone

and penned the Territory's

unofficial anthem raised some

eye brews as he was named the

18th adds min strairt. The

chief minister was confident

the critics would soon see Ted

Egan had much more to offer. It

was a controversial choice, but

Ted, along with his lovely

partner Neris worked himself

well into that position and

provided quality administratorship. I think

people who had a question mark

over that appointment from day

one would now reflect and say

"This man has done an excellent

job." The fact he was

appointed administrator, that

was an inspired choice, but

that was simply the crowning of

his career, a career that was

built on a foundation of very

solid achievement and

contribution to the Territory

over, well know now the best

part of 60 years. It's not

easy, people come here and

they've got no money and

nowhere to stay. I know exactly

how it is, because on my first

four nights I slept over

there. As well as being a

performer and prolific writer

Ted Egan brought with him a

strong Association with indigenous Territorians

including Darwin's Long

Grasses. (Speaks native language) He earnt a place in

Territory's sporting history

when not long after arriving in

Darwin he helped found the St

Mary's football club giving many Aboriginal men their first

chance to play the game they

now dominate. He speaks

Aboriginal languages, he's well

known in the footballing

history, and he's an

entertainer in his own right.

So he's been there, done that.

I think what a wonderful career

he has had in topping it off by

being a very good

administrator. His skills as a

lingwest earned him a job as a patrol officer with the

Department of Native Affairs

where he travelled the length

and breadth of the

Territory. He knows what the

place is about so he has that

fantastic sympathy for the

whole of the Territory which

has made him a much loved

public figure. And has enabled

him to really respond in a very

appropriate fitting and human

way wherever he is. By and

large I've been on the

Aboriginal side in crucial

issues like land and culture.

But I'm in the starry eyed and

I'm not... I'm if the one of

these two feel I must take an

Aboriginal to lunch or... I get

on well with so many of them

because we're fellow human

beings who have common

interests in Australia. This

is the last one of ours to go

now, Wendy... As Ted Egan packs

up to leave Government House he

is still smarting over a

constitutional controversy

early in his term when he was

accused of breaching protocol

by discussing the contentious

issue of Aboriginal traditional

marriage with the chief

justice. I've spoken with the chief justice about

this... Three years on he's

still adamant he did nothing

wrong. I don't backdown or resile from anything I said

during my term. But after he

drives out of Government House

for the last time next Tuesday

he'll be free to speak his mind

and that's exactly what he

intends to do. During next year

I will be writing material

which is certainly political

and it's quite obvious to

everybody and everybody

acknowledges that there are

serious problems around

Aboriginal life in

Australia. And he said, I've

been around a bit, I'll show

you a trick or two... Friends

are also hoping Ted Egan will

soon be back behind a

microphone. He has an

opportunity again to get the

pen out again and to get that

beer carton out again and belt

out a fu new songs.

# He'll sit and an every move

he'll make

# Until he bites you for a drink

# And he'll move a lot faster

than you'd think

# Roger liked to drink a little

metho with his dinner... #

Bom-bom. That's the program.

We'll leave you with the launch

of the CD '15 Minutes' by

Darwin singer malt rr Ryder.

see you next week.

# Just one guy

#

Hash hsh it makes no sense

# It makes no sense # Closed Captions by CSI

CC Tonight - now that you

mention it, Labor pounces on

the Prime Minister's admission

that his claim to keep intrust

rates at record lows was a

mistake. All Mr Howard's

saying is that his promise on

the last election on interest

rates lasted only two nights

and therefore from his point of

view didn't count While the

Prime Minister says Kevin Rudd

was panic under to sacking militant unionist Joe

McDonald. He'll be back. He's

promised us all he will and he

will because in Government Mr

Rudd would not be strong enough

to stop it happening.

Good evening, welcome to

Lateline. I'm Virginia Trioli.

Who was the biggest contributor

to this week's election

campaign? It was probably the

rather staid Australian Bureau

of Statistics which dropped the

higher than expected inflation

figures smack in the middle of

the debate over interest rates

and economic management. To

examine week two of the

campaign, we'll be joined by

the Liberal Party's Alexander

Downer and Labor's burp Byrne

and we'll look at the

increasingly influential

campaign in cyber space.

# For years this country's been

my crib

# Leading the libs

# Tellin' fibs

# I'm nifty, thrifty, pullin' a swifty

# Takin' us back to the 1950s #

Well, YouTube's election

coverage is certainly a

cultural revolution. More about

Snoop Dag and Chairman Rudd

later. First our other

campaign headlines. The election

campaign pauses to honour

Australia's second soldier

killed in Afghanistan. Planet

in peril. A new report warns

the health of the earth has

reached a tipping ach d a tipping reached a

reached a tipping point. And r ach d a t pping point

gDt out of jail get out of rDach d a ipping poin And r ach a t pping point And

get out of jail free - a life g t ou of a?l fre - a l f get out of jail free - a

sentence six weeks ago, now

full pardon for the former

Philippines President Joseph

Estrada. If Kevin Rudd thought

expelling Joe McDonald from the

ALP would be the end of the

story, he may have been mistaken. The Western

Australian unionist says he's

getting legal advice after Mr

Rudd today appeared to buckle under Coalition pressure and

threw him out of the party.

John Howard's admitted the

Liberal's 2004 election promise

to keep interest rates at

record lows was a mistake. Both

major parties had intended day

12 of the campaign to be about

the environment but as Ben

Worseley reports, staying on message proved a challenge.