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A showdown locks in Federal

parliament as politicians

prepare to vote on the ETS. An Australian security contractor

is murdered in Baghdad's green

zone. Shark attack fears -

spear Fish fisherman goes

missing on Sydney's northern

and Australia bounces back to

square the Ashes series at

Headingley. Good morning, it's

Monday 10 August. I'm Jonathan

Brown. And I'm Virginia Trioli.

The top story - the Federal

Government's Emissions Trading

Scheme is set for defeat in the

Senate this week A vote on the

Rudd Government's ETS is due on

Thursday, the Opposition and

Independent Senator Nick

Xenophon will today reveal an

alternative emissions trading

plan. Malcolm Turnbull says

research by Frontier Economics

shows his plan would save jobs

and reduce household power

bills. But the Government is

standing firm on its proposal

that Climate Change Minister

peeng defended this concessions

offered to major polluters. I

don't think there's anything

wrong with recognising that

industries where we export and

we trade in markets where

competitors may not have a

carbon price for to us

recognise it's important to

provide these industries with

transitional assistance. That

is ahead of the world moving to

a comprehensive agreement. On

the Greens, today we see

Senator million inon television

basically talk up the Greens

prospect of a success were there to be a double

dissolution. If we want to talk

about people playing politics

are we seriously suggested that

it's a good thing for the plan

tote vote top sure that Australia's emissions continue

to rise but then talk up your

electoral prospects if there is

an election as a result of

that. Penny Wong on Insiders

yesterday. For more, Susan McDonald joins us from

Canberra. Before we get to the

very well placed leaks on what

we might expect from the

Opposition in relation to an

ETS, take us through what's

expected this week in relation

to the Government's

proposal? Well we expect a very

confidence PM Kevin Rudd to

walk in the door, keen to push

ahead with his carbon pollution

reduction scheme and on the

other hand we expect a very

bruised and battered Opposition

Leader to walk in the door

putting on a brave face and

part of that brave face which

will change a little bit the

debate this week on the CPRS is

the Coalition has economiesed

some new economic modelling,

they've done that along with

Nick Xenophon and they've come

up with an alternative ETS.

It's definite to the cap and

trade scheme, that's hybrid

scream and it treats the coal industry quite differently.

Instead of making it buy all

its permits, instead it would

set a best practice baseline

and any emissions above that

these hef you polluters would

need to pay for their permits

there. It's a little bit of a

reward system. This modelling

is aing that this will in fact

save thousands of job, jobs

particularly in the hard hit

regions of the Hunter Valley

but it says lit save

electricity bills and the

increase there under this particular scheme would be just

$8 in its initial year rarn

$260 is what the Government's

scheme is saying that it would

do so Malcolm Turnbull with

this economic model willing see today, trying to regain a bit

of his authority. In the

meantime, the Opposition and

the Green senators, they're

still planning to vote down the

Rudd legislation? That's right.

Even though he did see a slight

shift in the Coalition's stance

a couple of weeks agoings, they

released those nine demands

that they put to the

Government. The Government

saying that they won't

negotiate unless there are concrete amendments that have

gone through the party room.

And the Greens equally, they're

not budging at all. They've

been pushing for tougher

targets and there seems to be

no sort of compromise from the

Greens there. This bill really

does look set to be defeated on

Thursday. You mentioned the

bruised and battered Malcolm

Turnbull who is expected to

walk through the doors of

parliament he. Brips with him

some rather poor Newspoll

results again in That's right.

That which expecting it to be

bad. One Liberal MP said they

expected it to be very bad and

it is. It's very bad for

Malcolm Turnbull. The Coalition

vote though hasn't changed in

the two party preferred vote

and the primary vote, the

Coalition has dipped slightly,

but it's really in Malcolm

Turnbull's personal

satisfaction rates that are

quite bad. He has set a new

record here. It's the biggest

fall in perm support for an Opposition Leader in Newspoll's

history. Just to run you

through the numbers - those who

were satisified with Malcolm

Turnbull has dropped from 33%

to 26%, and those who are

dissatisified with with him has

gone from 50% to 57%. Thatted a

up to a negative of 31 perspective points and one

wonders how much time it would

take if at all, Malcolm

Turnbull will be able to make

that gap a little bit less and

on the better PM position,

Malcolm Turnbull has gone up

from just 16 to 17%, so some

quite bad figures here and this

is what Malcolm Turnbull will

have to - will be on the minds

of all MPs when Malcolm

Turnbull fronts a party room

meeting tomorrow morning and we

know that it will be quite

confrontational, the issue of

ETS will come up, we know that

the Liberal backbencher Wilson

Tuckey is going to raise his

views previously... Again! To

Malcolm Turnbull's face this

time. He's previously sent

Malcolm Turnbull is arrogant emails out saying he thinks

and inexperienced. What's

interesting is that in the past

Coalition MPs, the senior ones

when asked in public, they've

been adamant in saying that

Malcolm Turnbull enjoys the

support of the party and that

he will lead them to the next

election. We are now seeing

some creeping acknowledgements

that there is a little bit of

discontent. There one Liberal

Senator George Brandis is

calling them the malcontents,

they've actually got a name now

and Liberal frontbench er

Christopher Pyne also said

- 99% of the party room are 100% behind Malcolm Turnbull.

There are always two or three

people who swim in a different

direction, and those people can

do a lot of dam as we've seen

that they are doing but at the end of the day Malcolm Turnbull

will lead to us the next election, the leadership team

is 100% behind him as is the

party room and as that becomes

more apparent as the weeks

progress I think those people

will lose interest and

certainly peer group pressure

will bring them to book in my

view. Susan, thank you for that

in Canberra. We'll take a look

at the other news of the day

now. In Iraq an Australian

security contractor and his

British counterpart have been

shot dead in Baghdad's green

zone. 37-year-old Queensland

Queensland - Queenslander Darren Hoare and Briton Paul

McGuigan died in the compound.

The men worked for the private

security company Armor Group.

Iraqi authority have charged a

British co-worker with their

deaths, an Iraqi military

spokesman said the incident

began as an argument. There are

fierce a spear fisherman could

have been taken by a shark. The

search for 31-year-old Brian

Lam will resume at Long Reef,

near Collaroy, this morning. He

was spear fishing with three

others whp he disappeared.

Yesterday afternoon, police

found Brian Lam's spear gun but

there was no sign of the

experienced dyer. It could take

two weeks for Indonesian

authorities to confirm whether

they've killed the wanted

terrorist Noordin Mohammed Top.

Indonesian police Nationally

thought they had killed Top in

a raid on a house in Java on Saturday but they've been

unable to identify the body.

Top is accused of planning last

month's Jakarta hotel boomings

and the 2002 Bali bombings.

Typhoon Morakot has hit China's south-east causing severe

flooding and widespread damage.

At least one person was killed

when the typhoon struck Fujian

Province with winds f occupy to

120km/h. Lamb million people were evacuated from the region

before the cyclone's arrival,

20 people died in the storm as

it crossed the Philippines. And

Australia has rekindled its

hopes of retaping the Ashes,

after winning the fourth

cricket Test at Headingley. The

tourists crushed England by an

innings and 80 runs, Mitchell

Johnson took five wickets, the

series is now tied at 1-1 and

we'll have more on the Ashes

late inner sport with Paul

Kennedy Vile sense increasing in Afghanistan, three

Australian soldiers were

wounded on the weekend in a

series of blasts from IEDs the

Taliban is stepping up its

attacks in the lead-up to ftal

election and Australian and

Coalition forces are battling

to provide security. They start

training at dawn before the

Middle Eastern desert heats up

to 45 degrees. These Australian

troops are only two days away

from Afghanistan. After many

months of preparation, they're

ready to take on the

Taliban. What we don't do is

give these bastards an inch. If

I want to kill us then they're

going to fight for it all the

way because they'd like nothing

more than for every one of us

to be ted. That would make

their day. For many us of these

soldiers this is their last

chance to practice these drills

before they touch down in

Afghanistan. Warrant officer

Alex Mol watches over the

soldiers with a mixture of

pride and anxiety. His own son

is already serving on the

front-line in Afghanistan. I

have a son who is out on the

ground fighting at the moment,

so when we have an incident

occurs that always hits

home. The son's of other

families are on their way too.

Private Gilmore will be going

into combat for the first time.

He's nervous about what's ahead

but confident his train willing

get him through. You see the

things that can happen, you try

and not think about it too much

because it will affect your

job. There'll always be Ricks

but this is what you signed up

for. Try not to think about it too much. Not really too

worried. The troops receive a

final first aid lesson before

they fly out. The number one

danger for these soldiers will

be be IE de.s. The blasts have

already claimed Australian

casualties. The troops are

going into Afghanistan at an

extremely dangerous and

sensitive time. It's now only

ten days to go up till the

Presidential election. And now

more than ever before, there's

a vital link between security

and democracy. Many of these

young soldiers will be putting

their lives on the line as

Coalition forces step up the

fight against the

Taliban. Typhoon Morakot

continues to threaten China

with authorities have evacuated

almost a million people from

the south-east. Having crossed

the Philippines and Taiwan,

Typhoon Morakot has left rescue

workers battling terrible

conditions. It's a day after

Typhoon Morakot left the south

of Taiwan and in the famous hot

spring resort it's left almost

nothing but mud. Typhoon

Morakot has caused some of the

worst flooding in Taiwan in 50

years. Rescuers are working

around the clock, it's not an

easy job and it's distressing

for local residents. This

resident says her mother is trapped inside a house and says

she can't get out. Can somebody

help her get out, she asks?

Many are fearing for relatives

and friends who can't look

after themselves.

TRANSLATION: It was terrible. I

was so scared that I'd be

washed away and I was so

worried about my child. But the

rescuers have worked through

the night evacuating people

stuck in their flats or

stranded on roofs. It's a taste

of what China can still expect.

Authorities there have ramped

up their preparations

evacuating almost a million

people from Xinjiang where torrential rains have already

flooded parts of the east

coast. Water levels have also

risen to over 4m in China's

financial expect Shanghai and

ships are being warned to stay

away. The numbers they deal with there with those

emergencies in places like

China are amazing. Evacuating a

million people imagine if they

did that in Australia.. We

often find it hard to imagine

with a couple of thousand. Take

a look at the front pages now.

Starting with the 'Australian', the Opposition Leader Malcolm

Turnbull has stumbled in the

polls was mentioned and he's

preparing to model his

alternative ETS to parliament. The 'Financial

Review' says the Rudd

Government's ETS will be the

focus of parliamentary debate

this week. There's a job crisis hitting teenagers in Queensland according to the 'Courier-Mail'

and that paper also has a

picture of a Gold Coast student

winning Sydney city to surf

road race. The 'Herald Sun'

reports that Melbourne police

have been granted more powers

because street violence is on

the rise and you got Ben

Cousins there on the front

page. I think it was his 250th

game. China's secrets agency

says Rio executives spied for

six years according to the 'Sydney Morning Herald'. And

China's spy claims against Rio

Tinto also lead 'Age'

newspaper. A NSW coroner has recommended that homicide

police take a fresh look at

cases involving missing young

women. This is the front page

of the 'Daily Telegraph' today. The Adelaide 'Advertiser' is

reporting that the latest wave

of troop replacements have

landed in Afghanistan and you

just saw the report on that.

The Territory Government has

put a multiple million dollar

remote housing project up for tender says the 'Northern Territory News'. The National

Gallery of Australia will host

a major exhibit of master works including Van Gogh and Gaugin

reports the. And that's an

competition of pointing from a

Paris museum which will be a

fine work of pictures. The

'West Australian' reports State

MP Alannah MacTiernan has quit

State politics to contest the

Federal seat of Canning.. The

'Mercury' says Tasmania has

more treat violence than

Victoria or Melbourne. I assume

they've worked that out on a

per capitala basis. If you'd

like to send us your feedback,

you can always send us email - The top stories on ABC News

Breakfast - a show downlook looms in Federal parliament as

politicians prepare to vote on

the ETS. The Opposition and the independent Senator Nick

Harmsen will today reveal plans for an amend ETS. Malcolm

Turnbull says the chains could

save thousands of jobs. An

Australian security contractor

and his British counter-part

have been shot dead in Iraq.

Iraqi shorts are charged a

British co-worker with their

deaths. A spokesman said the

incident began as an argument.

And rescue crews will this

morning resume their search for

a spear fisherman missing in

Sydney. It's feared 31-year-old

Brian Lam was tan by a shark

while fishing at Long Reef,

near Collaroy,. Nearly 50

people have been buried alive

and another 50 are still

missing after landslides flattened fleeville nanls

India's northern Uttarakhand State. Paramilitary forces have

rushed to the scene to carry

out salvage and relief

operation. Thousand of cubible

metres of thick mud cover what

were once villages in the

mountainous region that borders

Tibet in the north and Nepal to

the east. The landslide

followed a monsoonal downpour.

The State's Chief Minister

rushed to the area to inspect

the damage.

TRANSLATION: We are marking and

recording the places prone to

landslides and which are

situated in danger zones. Those

living in such areas will be

shifted to safer places. But

that's little comfort to the

survivors of this disaster

whose villages were not in a designated landslide zone.

Police and locals now have the

grim task of sifting through

the mud and what is likely to

be dozens of bodies.

TRANSLATION: Our police are

carrying the rescue operation

in full swing, we will take all

possible measures. The Chief

Minister says surviving

families will receive more than

$2,000 in compensation and be

moved to safer villages. In finance news chief executive

pay has fallen for the first

time in a Czech Eade according

to a new report. Totally

remuneration for xos fell 6.le%

in the year to May according to

is research from the Hay Group

but it found the fixed salary

of CEO pay intel increased 2.8%

in the same period. New figure

on Australian mortgages are set

to be released by the

Australian Bureau of Statistics

today. Official housing finance

data for June is expected to

show a 1.8% rise with home

mortgages already having risen

for the past eight

months. We'll take a lock at

the finance figures now.

Vanessa O'Hanlon has returned

from her trek in China and

she'll be back here with a look at the national weather for

you. And also ahead we'll have

a review of the newspapers and

today our guest is Professor Greg Barton from Monash University. Now with sport,

here is Paul Kennedy. Thank

you. Australia has tied the

Ashes series at 1-1. It took

just over a session on day

three for the Aussies to win

the Headingley test. Let's see

how it finished.

COMMENTATOR: Edged and caught.

Edged and a brilliant catch.

What a... This for a catch.

That's low he had to make a

decision, does he go? Two men

out there again and this time

it's taken. Swing and a miss. I

think, no, given. Bowled him.

There it is. Mitchell Johnson

has five wickets, Australia

have their win, they're back in

the series. We didn't really

turn up at this game to be

onnest. We started the game

very poorly and we got to take

it on the chin. That's one of

those things, we're not proud

of what we've done this week

but we're one all in the

series, one game to go and got

to lift ourself over if next

few days. Make sure we're 100%

ready to go. I think our attitude right through the game

has been spot on. We've played

really hard Test match cricket.

We dominated the game from the

first ball and have managed to

win a game in 2.5 days. Can't ask for anymore there and some

of our guys are just getting better and better at the right

end of the series. We'll talk

more about the Crick net a few

moments but get through some

football news. The West-Tigers

have moved into the NRL top

eight and Parramatta's closing

in on the footballs after both

clubs had good wins yesterday.

And the Titans stayed in third

place with a big win over the

Warriors. The rival fans turned

out in numbers the Roosters

hoping to be late season

spoilers as they were last week

against Newcastle, the Tigers

pushing towards the eight.

Every green Craig Fitzgibbon showed the way with some

surging runs as the Roosters

crowed loudly in the opening

half hour for an 8 point

bufferer. It took until then

for the Tigers to warm to the occasion. The competition's

joint leading try score,

Taniela Tuiaki displayed silky

skills. John moreries kicked

for Beau Ryan. The Tigers were

after that. Ryan's second

helped put the Tigers out by

six. And the Tigers are back in

front. Benji Marshall piloted a

timely 40/206789 That may be

enough for the Tigers. And

Robbie Farah nailed a single

point to keep the Tigers on

track for the finals. Newcastle

scored first but any

celebration among the Knights

faithful would be short lived.

Since coach Brian Smith

announced he'd be leave norg

Sydney's east it's all come

unstuck for his team. He scores

for Parramatta. Parramatta

finished with six tries to one,

it's three seasons since the

Eels have one for matches in a

row. No senior Gold Coast

league team has recorded a

victory across the Tasman, this

was the day to at they're

record. The Titans were

challenged briefly as not once

but twice Manu Vatuvei was the

man on the end of pinpoint

kicks. Can he get a double? You

Beacha. It ended there for New

Zealand, the Titans race in

three more tries for a

comfortable win. Next year's Commonwealth games organisers

in Delhi will be worried this

morning. The English bat minton

team has pulled out of the

world championships in India

because of a specific terrorist

threat. At the world

championship venue, armed

guards. But this security just

wasn't good enough for

England's team. Fearful the

event could be targeted for

terror. They've done it. I

don't believe disgrit the world

championship is second only to

the Olympics in importance, and

Nathan Robertson and his search

team-mate are heading home without hitting a single

shot. This is a championship

that we'd prepared very hard

for and felt that we could

deliver medals in. We didn't

take this decision lightly but

ultimately the security and the

consequences of a lack of

security for us are

unthinkable, and with that in

mind we had no option but to

regrettably withdraw. Memories

are still fresh here of if

Mumbai attacks last year in

which over 16 O'Dayed. Then

came the assault on the skin

cricket team in Pakistan. Sport

and the militants cross hairs.

Earlier this year, India's own

Premier League was moved to

snrik. The 400 badminton

players here have armed guards

wherever they go but the

authorities insist there is no

specific threat to the

tournament and the teams from

Wales and Scotland are not

following England home. I don't

necessarily think they've made

the right decision, I think

perhaps they have overreacted,

certainly our Scottish players

and our team manager who are in

Hyderabad feel confident that

the security is at its

best. India though is preparing

to host thousands of athletes

as it gears up for the 2010

Commonwealth Games. Protecting

them will be a challenge of an

all together different order. The Commonwealth Games then are

just a year away here in Delhi.

The official British foreign

office travel advice is that

the threat of attacks remains

high in some parts of India. So

the Government here knows it

must show it can guarantee

security if the games here are

to be a success. The English

football season kicked off last

night at Wembley. Manchester

United played Chelsea in the

community shield. This is the

traditional season curtain

raiser between the fun and

Premier League title holders.

The score at full-time was 2-2.

Wayne Rooney as you can see

there scored to send the match

to a penalty shoot-out. Chelsea

sealed it in the end, they won

the penalty shoot-out, 4-1. And

briefly to the AFL, Port

Adelaide thrashed - sorry,

Fremantle thrashed party in the AFL to leave the fight for the

finals spots alive for another

week. The Power was expected to

beat the lowly Dockers but Freo

led by 45 pinpoint s at

half-time. The result leafs the

the finals door ajar for

Essendon, Hawthorn and Sydney.

And we'll speak a little bit

about the AFL later but but

it's all about the cricket this

morning. Probably took a little

longer than people picture have

expected. The pom had a bit of

a dash and in one partnership

scored 100 runs for 70 balls. Just an amazing turn

around from what's happened in

the last three games now. There

was a glimmer of hope in the

last game that Australia was on

the cup but it's just totally

turned around. The last day of

the Edgbaston Test where

Australia scored some runs

probably got a little bit of

confident but it was all about

the bowlers, they dropped

headquarter headquarter,

brought in Clarke and Mitchell

Johnson found his form and took

five wickets in the second

innings. So he was the one to

clean up the tail last night.

It's all looking pretty good

now. That's Johnson picking upg

the last wicket. The hair cut

works for him If you're going

overseas on a five Test series,

and your bowler doesn't hit his

form until the fourth game,

it's great that he's hit form

but it's taken too long. But

not really, if they win this

last Test they'll win the

series and Australia have taken

a while to get the conditions right and start swinging the

ball but don't forget they

dominated the first Test. They

just didn't win. They count

take that final wicket. It's

been very, very tight and it's

a seesawing series. What do you

see that's shifted in this

particular match. What's been

the key change? I think Stuart

Clark was a massive inclusion.

He was able to take three

wickets on that first day. He

had a bit more control to the

bowling attack and of course

Andrew Flintoff was out so St

English batting line-up was

weakened and I think without

Andrew Flintoff and Kevin

Pietersen, they've really just

struggled for an onfield

leader. Strauss had a lot of

things on his mind and didn't

make any runs and England's number three, four and five

made a combined total of 16

runs. That's in six innings, so

they'll need to find some runs

from somewhere in the last

Test. But the last Test is

traditionally a have been you

where they draw games so we

might be look at a 1-1 draw but

Australia will retain the Ashes

if that's the case. Thank you,

Paul. News Breakfast can be

watched live on the web from

anywhere.

It is hello to Vanessa

O'Hanlon who has just returned

from China. Good morning. I say

something I haven't seen in a

long time. 48 hours straight of

rain in in a proveps in China.

We're starting off the week

with a flood watch in Tasmania.

For all northern river basins

as the south-east braces for a

wintery weak ahead. We can see

the widespread cloud over the the south-east is causing

showers and also a few storms

over South Australia. More scattered over the western

parts of Victoria, the cloud

that's is over the south-west

will spread showers further

inland. A dry day ahead for

most of the north under a high.

A low pressure system sitting

over the Bight will cross over

Victoria and over far NSW as an

associated trough also moves

over the remainder of NSW and

also into the southern parts of

Queensland. A cold front and

trough moving across WA's

south-west is over western

districts of the south-west

land division and west

Gascoyne. Around the States -

The top stories on ABC News

Breakfast - the Federal Government's emissions strading

scheme is set for defeat in the

Senate this week A vote on the

Rudd Government's ETS is due on

Thursday. The Opposition and

the - Opposition and Independent Senator Nick

Xenophon will today reveal an

alternative ETS plan. Malcolm

Turnbull says research by

Frontier Economics shows his

plan would save jobs and reduce

household power bills. But the

Government is standing firm on

its proposal, the Climate

Change Minister Penny Wong

defended the concessions

offered to major polluters.. I

don't think there's anything

wrong with recognising that

industries where we export and

we trade in markets where

competitors may not have a

carbon price for to us

recognise it's important to

provide these industries with transitional assistance. That

is ahead of the world moving to

a competitive agreement. But

can I say on the Greens, today

we see Senator Milne on

television basically talking up

the Greens ooe prospects of a

success were there to be a

double dissolution so if we

want to talk about people

playing politics are we seriously suggesting that that

it's a good thing for the plan

tote vote to ensure Australia's

emissions rise but then talk up

your electoral prospects if

there is an election as a

result of that. The Climate Change Minister Penny Wong

talking up her prospects before nah showdown in Federal

parliament this week. Here is

how you can contribute to News

Breakfast -

In Iraq an Australian

security contractor and his British counterpart have been

shot dead in Baghdad's green

zone. 37 -year-old Queenslander

Darren Hoare and Briton Paul

McGuigan died in the compound.

The men worked for the private

security company Armor Group.

Iraqi authorities have charmed

a British co-worker with their

deaths. An Iraqi military

spokesman said the incident

began as an argument. There are

fears a spear fisherman missing

could have taken by a shark.

The search for 31-year-old

Brian Lam will resume at Long

Reef this morning. He was spear

fishing with three others when

he disappeared. Yesterday

afternoon police found Brian

Lam's spear gun but there was

no sign of the experienced

diver. Support for Malcolm

Turnbull has slumped again in

the wake of the Ozcar affair.

The latest Newspoll shows

satisfaction with the

Opposition Leader's performance

falling to 26%. Kevin Rudd has

maintained his crushing lead as

preferred PM, he lead Malcolm

Turnbull by 6 5 to 17%. It

could take two weeks for

Indonesian authorities to

confirm whether they've killed

the wanted terrorist Noordin

Mohammed Top. Indonesian police

initially thought they'd killed

Top in a raid on a house in

Java on Saturday. But they've

been unable to identify the bod

yx Top is accused of planning

last month's Jakarta hotel

bombings and the 2002 Bali bombings. And Typhoon Morakot

has hit China's south-east

causing severe flooding and

widespread damage. At least one

person has killed when the

typhoon struck Fujian Province

with winds of up to 120km/h.

Almost a million people were

evacuated from the ream before

its arrive. A 20 people died in

the storm as it crossed the

Philippines. The British

Government has denied

allegations that it included in

the abuse of terrorism

suspects. However, the

country's foreign affairs

select committee said it had

grave concerns that Britain has

been complicit in ill

treatment. Tor years ministers

have been questioned about the

extent of secret flights

carrying terror suspects

through British territory. Now

an influential report has

accused the Government of not

doing enough to get the full

truth about rendition and has

said it's worried about

allegations that UK officials

may have been complicit in

torture. The committee of MPs

wants Government assurances. I

think the Government has a

responsibility to use

information wherever it comes

from but it also needs to make

absolutely clear that it is not acceptable for torture to be used. Today the foreign

secretary Lisa Millar and the

home secretary have strongly denied allegations of British

collusion in the abuse of

terror subpoenas over sea bus

writing in the paper both

ministers acknowledge that difficult judgments have been

toad. When committee Tynees are

held

The Government does not condone

the use of torture. We are

resolute ly opposed to it and

that remains the case. Other

countries, they're spom for

what they do but the Pott of

the British Government is

absolutely clear. This is the

British Indian ocean territory

last year, the Americans

admitted that secret CIA

flights carrying terror

suspects had passed through

here in 2002. Despite years of

denials by UK ministers.

They're now being urged to

investigate exactly what went

on. There's also concern about

Britain's relation with Pakistan's secretive

intelligence agency, the ISI

following claims they'd

mistreated and tortured

detainees. There's also been a

string of allegations about UK

intelligence officers including

claims by this man British

resident, that MI5 was

complicit in his torture when

he was held at certain

sites. This is now a pattern

that suggests that we do have

to know as a country that has

been firmly against torture,

and firm IDP Education

Australia signature airory of the international convention

against torture, we have to

know what that whatever saying

is being backed bip whatter

with doing a. The Bligh

Government has denied

allegations that it included in

the abuse of terrorism

suspects, I think we've just

done that story. We might move

on to the next one. And that

was British Liberal Democrat

spokesman there. Last year the

media swarmed over

archaeologist digs at demren

glen in Victoria's north and

that - at Glenrowan. But in the

last few months a significant

Kelly find has been made with

little fanfare perhaps because

it gives a less popular version

of history. Guy Stayner reports. MUSIC

. I would often rhetorically

asked a ad ens had nifr not

heard of Ned Kelly and then I

would ask can anyone name the

three policeman murdered at

Springy Bark creek and not once could anybody in the audience

tell me the names of the three

missmen murdered. He's a legend

of the silver screen. But I am

a widowed son outlawed. My

order must be obeyed. Since

1906 filmmakers have taken

inspiration if the Irish

underdog fighting the English

establishment against

overwhelming odds. It's one of

Australia's most loved stories.

Nedical Kelly even took centre

stage at the opening of the

Sydney Olympic Games when the

television coverage beamed

these images of Sidney Nolan inspired costumes to a

worldwide audience of billions.

But what do Australians really

know about the man they

celebrate? For those willing to

look past the legend, newly

uncovered documents support a

side of the story rarely told.

A few months ago in the bowels of Victoria police headquarter,

a cure at owner at the police

museum found a dusty old

cardboard box that captured her

attention. As I opened the box

straight away would could see

word like Mansfield and we know

that that's Kelly

country. Inside were 366

letters and telegrams dating

from the 187 #0s. It seems

no-one alive knew this archive

existed. Straight away then you

saw all the names like

Fitzpatrick and Flood, all

these very famous names that

were a part of the hunt for the

Kel Kellies. Then I realised I

guess what I had and was quite

exciting. One of the favourite

letters is from inspector

Hennie, a London policeman

brought to Australia and then

lumbered with the task of

catching the Kellies. This was

his impassioned plea to force

commnd command about the murders.

TRANSLATION: I know nothing of

bush life and therefore unable

to guide men as to the course

they should pursue and might

through ignorance lead them

into danger, perhaps death. I

find it next to useless to send

a handful of constables after

four well armed bush

rangers. He wrote that memo on

the day that they buried

Londoner began and Scanlan and

the day before he went out to

find Hindmarsh the body of

Kennedy. The man was clearly

traumatised and I think for

documents historical documents

to give you that kind of

insight, is quite

fascinating. Three days later

the inspector spent a telegram

of finding the body of Sargeant

Kennedy. He presented a frightful spectacle. He has

been shot through the side of

the head, the bullet coming

away in front. I believe there

are several shots through the

body, he appeared to have been

shot while running away. The

Kelly gang, they had a more

effective network of spies and

sympathisers, they were skilled

marks man, skilled bushman,

they had the advantage of both

surprise and concealment and at

all materials times if they

wanted to they were free to

escape and they opted not to

escape but to confront and

engage in violence. The

collection gives historians

like this man a fresh

opportunity to re-examine the

Kelly story. Somplt many of the

police weren't up to what they

were able asked to do. They were undertrained, underprepared, didn't really

have the resources and a lot of

them just didn't want to be

there. They had no gun, they

had no horses, a lot of

telegrams in there are just ask

fogger guns and ammunition or

asking if they can borrow a

horse. The archive also shows

that Kelly wasn't considered a

Robin Hood-like figure by

everyone. There was obviously a

lot of fear in the community.

There was a couple of letters

in there of people having

information but not wanting to

give it because they're worried

about the repercussions 130

years on there's still

repercussion s with those with

the courage to cross Ned

Kelly. Does he deserve fob a

folk hero. I don't want to get

held up by all those Kelly

people. I personally don't

think so. I think he must have

been a very charismatic

character but I think the fact

that if these crimes were done

today there would be no

question about him being a a

criminal or not Sympathisers

say the Kelly gang was fighting

police persecution. I findate

bit disconcerting that the myth

has really transsended the

fabilitys. There's nothing in

that history that ever

justified the murder of the

three policemen. If what

ostensibly had happened to the

Kellies and their family

justified murd e, there'd be an

awful lot of dead people

around. What an extraordinary

claeks of documents. It squares

the ledger to some extent in

terms of the arguments of brutality that are always made

in defence of the Kelly p gang

but it's unfair to almost apply

today's criteria of such

murders of police officers

would be dreadful today, it was

such a lawless time, how do you

even consider what was

outrageous and what wasn't. It

just amazing with how history

views and opinions can change

in terms of how see what

happened 100, 200 years

ago. The duments always

help. You are watching News

Breakfast. The top stories now

- a show down looms in Federal

parliament. The Opposition and Opposition and Independent

Senator Nick Xenophon will

today reveal plans for an

amended ETS. Malcolm Turnbull says the changes could save

thousand of jobs. An Australian

security contractor and his

British counter-part have been

shot dead in Iraq. Iraqi

authorities have charged a

British co-worker with their

deaths. An Iraqi military

spokesman said the incident

began begap as an argument and

rescue crews will this morning

resume their search for a spear

fisherman misses near Sydney.

It's fired 31-year-old Brian

Lam was taken by a shark while

fishing at Long Reef, near

Collaroy,. Another Monday

morning and another look at national papers for you and

today we're joined by Professor

Greg Barton from Monash

University. Good morning.

Welcome back. Good

morning. Nice to see uyou.

There's a nug of big issues in

your particular field It's been

a big week last week. We'll

start off the with the front

page of the airj Start off with with the Stern Hu Rio Tinto

claim. It's a big story. You

can't avoid it. China's

national Administration for the

protks of State secrets, says

that for the last six years Rio

has been spying a they've haif

gone through computer - and

that they've gone through

company computers. They're

saying that this led to China

losing the equivalent of $A is

the 3 billion which is more

than what - $A 223 billion. How

the fir figures add up is not

clear. Whatever aggressive

business analysis Rio was

engaged in, that amounted to

spying, also in the 'Sydney

Morning Herald' it's

interesting that the front page

of the 'Financial Review' has

no trace at all of this

story. What do you put that

down to? Maybe they didn't want

to upset bids men over their

museli in the morning but -

upset businessmen over their

museli in the morning. The fact

that they've come out with this

now, this detail in the

charges, what does that mean

for the case now against Stern

Hu? Well who knows the facts of

this case but it does mean that

it's bad news for Saddam

Hussein. I don't think we'll

see him back - for Saddam

Hussein. Effectively China has

raised the stakes. - - for

Stern Hu. They're playing this

very tough now. This goes

beyond doesn't it a mere

diplomatic negotiation. Do you

think they would be acting so

tough if the Australian

executive was Australian

born? You're in a different

category than being Chinese

born because from the Chinese Government point of view if you're Chinese born you're

Chinese, whatever your passport

or pass ports might say, you

remain Chinese. It is tough for

Stern Hu in that

sense. Considering how tough

the Chinese judiciary system

is, in terms of thement that

Stern Hu - in terms of the

punishment that Stern Hu could

expect, you'd have to think

that it could be quite some

time? It's very grim. It's not

a transparent judiciary system,

it's not one where you can

easily make appeals. Whatever

the facts of the case, you've

got to feel that this guy is in

for a whole heap of trouble. Do

you get the impression from

reading these reports that

China has been working on this

case for some time or that these details have been

hurically put together? It's

really hard to say. It's really

hard to read through the veils

of what's going on in China.

They do seem to have a lot of

data and there's no question if

you went and looked at Rio's

office computers you'd find a

lot of data. Analysis is fart

is part of what you do in

business and sometimes that

goes to being very close to

that. All nation states engage

in espionage. Uyour saying it's

not actualliment possible, it's not improbably that what

they're suggesting is true? The

figures are frankly incredible,

but the basic suggestion that

this was Var aggressive

company. This company has a

long history of being very

aggressive. The suggestion this

company was to aggressive as to

cross a certain boundary line

is credible. The fact that the

boundary line might have moved

through the night is another

aspect to the story. If trial

is open to the immediate ya I

don't know how many trials in

China are, it will be an

intriguing insight into how far

these major companies

multinationals do go in terms

of trying to get information through these negotiations. Indeed. There's

the suggestion here from

China's claim that they do have

data they want to put out in

the public. Maybe nothing will

come to light but perhaps they

have got stuff they want to

make public. Is Noordin

Mohammed Top dead or

not? Almost definitely he's not

dead. If we were doing this

program yesterday the front

page of the Sunday 'Age' would

have us feeling very confident

and all through

Saturday... Keep hold of that. We'll just remind

everybody of what yesterday's

pain had to say.. This was the

lead story. He probably

actually wasn't the Bali bomb

mastermind. He's been involved

in all the bombings since. It's

almost certain that he's though

not dead either. Talk us

through then what we do

know? We the story comes up

today, not on the front page of

the Monday 'Age' but on page

three of the 'Age',

interestingly, for the autopsy

it's on the bottom of page one.

The situation is this, there

were two seenls going on -

there were two sieges going on

- and another siege in central

jav y midway through jog jog

and another place. That second siege began Monday amp, went

all the way through to late

morning on Saturday. It began

with the arrest of two people

in a market recognised as being

linked with Top and it ended

with a bomb being thrown into

the house and it turns out now that we thought there were a

number of people in the house,

there was just one person. The

poddy has a lot of physical

Daniel so it's not easy to

identify. It was said by the

police very confidently, "We've

got Top." Why believe that.

Don't throw me in the briar

patch? You might come to the

conclusion that this map was

told so say - that this man was

told to say "I'm Noordin

Mohammed Top." One would expect

that Noordin Topp wouldn't be

by himself but would be with a

group of bodyguards and that he

probably wasn't in the house

when the raid began. There's

some street violence

comparisons between Tasmania

and Victoria this morning? Yes,. Rather

incredibly, the 'Mercury' leads

with a story "shame on our

violent streets and that Hobart

is an assault capital." They

say Hobart is more dangerous

than Melbourne. I guess that's

on a statistical basis. There's

reason to be concern concerned

about street crime in

Australia. The front page story

of the 'Herald Sun' leaving

aside the football is that the

police get tougher search

powers and basically there's to

be a crackdown on street crime.

Been talking about Asian

student ace tabs and street

crime, late night travel etc,

it does seem we have a problem

with that. Greg bart yop,

always good to see you. Police

are expected to resume the search for a diver missing off

Sydney's northern beaches amid

shark sights, the man was among

four divers swimming on a local

reef but he didn't surface with

the rest of them. One of the

divers raised the alarm and a

large search was laumpbld.

Rachel Mealey joins us for

momplt where are you there? I'm

at Long Reef, near Collaroy,.

It's within of Sydney's

northern beaches t about about

10 kilometres north of Manly.

I'm standing near the boat ramp

where this diver has entered

the water yesterday. He was an

experienced diver. The chairman

of a dive club and his usual

practice was to enter just in

at the boat ramp behind me and

place a dive marker down. He

was diving with a couple of

friends yesterday and when they

surfaced and they couldn't find

him they raised an alarm at

about midday yesterday. The search is expected to resume

this morning down here, just

called the police this morning

at Manly and they're getting

all their search equipment

ready to leave Manly police

station this morning and come

council here. We believe that

some family members are here at

the beach just conducting their

own search and perhaps having a cause for reflection this

morning because the news done

look good. There was no sign of

Mr Lam's body at all yesterday.

Some of his dive equipment was

found but the area that he was

diving in, from is some

underwater caves, there's also

yesterday some quite strong

rips and tidal movements, so

police have said to the family

that possibly what they'll be

searching for today is Mr Lam's

body. From the equipment that

they had and the clothing that

they were wearing yesterday,

the wet suits, it seemed like

they were well set up, they

were experienced divers, is

that the case? Naert. Look,

what I can xwater is that they

were just snorkeling, there

wasn't scuba equipment involved

so from what I can establish,

it doesn't seem likely that it

was an equipment failure that

may have caused this man to go

missing, some people here

yesterday told ABC reporters

that they had seep some sharks

in the area yesterday morning

or a shark possibly site

sighted a number of times and d

but police have said that at

this stage there's no evidence

that it's anything to do with a

shark and it may just be a

misadventure of some kind..

Rachel Mealey in the northern

beaches of Sydney, thank you

for that. You can watch all of

News Breakfast streamed live

every morning. Now with sport

here is Paul Kennedy. Thank

you. Good morning. The Aussies

have tied the Ashes series at

is-1. It took just over a

session last night to wrap up

the fourth Test at Headingley,

five remaining wickets fell with Mitchell Johnson claiming

five for the innings, Australia

won by an innings and 80 lun

run in the end and they head to the oval next week full of

confidence. To the AFL and Fremantle's demolition of Port

Adelaide leaves the Power

incredibly still in the eight.

The Dockers capped a round of

upsets by thrashs mildz men.

Their victory gives hope to

Essendon, Hawthorn and Sydney,

all still capable of making the

finals. And to the NRL, West-Tigers continue their

march towards fooinl finals,

they came from behind to bet

the Belfasters yesterday. Bow

bee's two tries sealed the

victory. That was the Tigers

fifth win in a row after

turning their season around.

And there's a golf tournament

on this morning, so we'll bring

you updates in the next two

hours, Tiger Woods and

Harrington are struggling for

the lead. And despite St Kilda

not having seven of the star

players they still got up on

the weekend. It's the big story

of the AFL is that St Kilda

looks to be out and out the

favourite now. Of course,

Carlton beat Geelong on Friday

night, so Geelong considered to

be St Kilda's qual but

certainly not on the weekend's

form, St Kilda was too good for

Hawthorn and Hawthorn just

pretty happy that the Dockers

came out of the the wilderness

to beat Port Adelaide because

strangely enough the Hawks can

still make the finals. Thank

you. Here is Vanessa O'Hanlon

with the weather. New. You're

need the brollie in the

south-east this week as we've

got some rain ahead. Widespread

cloud over the region, this is

causing the showers over South

Australia and Tasmania. There

will be more scattered over the

western parts of Victoria. The

cloud over the south-west will spread showers further inland.

We've got a dry day ahead for

most of north ch that's because

of a high. A low pressure

system over the Bight will

cross Victoria over the next

few days and over far NSW as an

associated trough moves over

the remainder of NSW and into

southern Queensland. Also a

cold front and a trough are

moving across WA A's south-west. This is over the

western districts of the

south-west land division and West West Gascoyne.

Lovely to have you back. Lots

more ahead on News Breakfast, the Federal Opposition will

today unveil its own ETS plab

plans and we'll hope to hear

some of the details when we

speak to the climate change environment spokesman Greg

Hunt. They've released some of

the details thork. We've seen

snippets here and there as a

tease but later today we should

get all the detail so stay with

us on News Breakfast.

This Program is Captioned Live.

A show down looms in Federal parliament as politician

prepare to vote on the ETS. An

Australian security contract of

is murdered in Baghdad's green zone. Shark

zone. Shark attack fears - a

spear fisherman goes missing on

Sydney's northern beaches. And

Australia bounces back to

square the Ashes series at

Headingley. Good morning. It's

Monday 10 August. I'm Joe O'Brien. And I'm Virginia

Trioli. The top story on ABC New Zealand - the Federal

Government's ETS is set for

defeat in the Senate this week.

A vet on the Rudd Government's

ETS is due on Thursday,

ETS is due on Thursday,

meanwhile the Opposition and Independent Senator Nick

Xenophon will today reveal an alternative emissions trading

plan. Malcolm Turnbull says

research by Frontier Economics

shows his plan would save jobs

and reduce household power

bills. But the Government is

standing firm on its

proposal. And for more Susan

joins us from Canberra. It's

not going to be a food week for

Kevin Rudd in that record. But

perhaps they're playing a

longer term political game

here. That's right. As you say,

the carbon pollution reduction

seem really is set for defeat

on Thursday. We will see a bit

of a fight over the

Government's tie tofg CPRS with

the renewable energy target.

That's going to be a bit of a

head ache for the Government

there. Their coming under

political and business pressure

but as you say it is a little

bit longer term. We're likely

to see it defeated on Thursday

but that does pave the way for

the Government to bring it back
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