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(generated from captions) Good Friday morning! Welcome to 9

am with David and Kim. I'm David Reyne. I'm Kim Watkins. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Yes. Thank you. I've

been asked twice this morning

already whether I'm having an election-night celebration tomorrow

night. Who does that? Seriously?

Are you doing that? You're doing

that? What? You haven't got better

things to celebrate? An election

night. What do you do, do you stand

in front of the telly and go, "Nice

speech, Kevin." This year I'm not.

I'm going to the Starry Starry

Night fundraiser. In past years,

I've done it many times. Had barbecues and watched the election

coverage. You find it exciting? I

don't find it exciting but I find

it interesting and riveting and

important to - don't I care? No,

you don't? I care the next morning.

A change of government. That might

send us, you know, plummeting

downwards or it might send us

through the roof. Who knows. Do you

think? Don't know. Interesting to

wake up this morning and see that

Mr Rudd is now denying entry to

boat people. I seem to remember

that was an election issue four

years ago but the other man said it.

He's got good at saying, "I say Will this me-too-ism ever stop?

what he says and a bit more but I

won't spend a bit more." So a vote

for change is a vote for the same.

I'll be in front of the telly with

beers, going, "Oh, no." I look

forward to the barbecue on election

day. There's always a goos sausage sizzle. Is there any significance

in the choice of food, do you think? Allison Dubois has become a

household name as the inspiration

for the series 'Medium'. She's a

regular visitor to Australia. Her

latest book presents a theory that

to suitably understand life one

must fully comprehend death.

Allison will make clear the big

picture and ask the deceased to be

quiet long enough to chat to us

this morning. John Polson has

decided to move Tropfest to the

next level. The festival boasts a

feature film program to allow

budding Spielbergs to prove

themselves in a longer format.

Great idea. Only two remain

standing in Australian Idol. We'll

cross live to Matt Corby and

Natalie Gauchi for their thoughts.

One in 11 women is affected by

breast cancer. One in three women

is a victim of domestic violence.

This Sunday marks white ribbon day,

a national campaign intended to

eliminate violence against women to

changing the culture that endorses

it. This morning, Donna Zander from

the white ribbon foundation and

former police officer Neil Owen

join us to explain more. Lots more

for this pre-election 9 am. Let's get it going.

This program is captioned live.

I'm having dress troubles. That's

all. Are you right with your

lollies? They're nice. Anything

else you'd like to bring along?

Toast? I've got all sorts of things.

I've got lipstick and some other

lollies down the I'd, a few tissues.

A powder puff. It's all happening.

I had the great delight in sharing

Ms Watt's car with her the Ms Watt's car with her the other

day. Sorry about the smell. I had

to stand at the passenger door for

some time as you negotiated a bit

of room for me to sit into. Whole

car tonnes and yoingyurt and a dog carcass. The odd dead chicken in

there. Some people use their cars

as sort of rubbish bins, don't they?

You see, I do have another

full-time job aside from this so,

you know, cleaning up my car is

very low on the list of priorities.

I must admit it was a little

and I'd had the wet dog in the back pungent T was a hot and steamy day

of the car. It wasn't pungent, it

was positively bubbling. It did

stink a bit. Sorry about that. And

I laughed uproarously when I knew he was geting in.

he was geting in. This will start

your day off on the right note or perhaps the wrong note depending on

which way you go. In London, four

in ten women would rather go

shopping than have sex, researchers

say. And half of those who have

been married for 20 years or more

would happily get by without any at

all. Any shopping? Any sex? Any sex.

There is good news for men, though.

72% of wives still fancy their

partners, giving them 7 out of 10

or higher on a scale of sexual

attractiveness. But they just don't

want to... take it any further.

Isn't that interesting? I wonder

what the statistics are like in

Australia. Would you happily forego

sex to shop. I can personally think

of nothing worse than shopping.

It's not a fair question. Why? Was

that like, you know, a referendum

question, was it? Well, women will

always go shopping because they

know that they can possibly always

get sex, don't you think? Do you

think so? Is that what you think

the methodology is? Wouldn't that

be the case? Not necessarily. You

could always have both. Whilst

we're talking about - What have you

found. I thought mine was more

interesting. OK. Go ahead. I'll

save it till later. It's on a

serious note. I'm angry about it

but it's serious.

The jungles of central American are

littered with myian ruins without

explanation. Until now, their

favoured liqueur was Kahlua. It

ignited them in myian times and

left them so legless they couldn't

find home. Anthony will make Kahlua

torte this morning.

The latest opinion polls are

divided over the election outcome. A Galaxy survey Sydney Opera House

John Howard gaining ground on Labor,

closing the gap to just four

points, while a Nielsen poll

predicts an ALP landslide. John

Howard has a brewing migraine over

a campaign brochure scandal in

which Liberal members distributed

fake racist fliers in a key seat.

The Prime Minister took the podium

at the National Press Club ready to

win over wavering voters. The

Labor Party has not made a

convincing case for change. But his

message was railroaded by this message was railroaded by

racist pamphlet. From a fake

Islamic group, it claims Labor

wants the Bali bombers forgiven

and more mosques built. I have

condemned it, I've dissociated

myself from it, I think it's stupid,

it's offensive, it's wrong, it's

untrue. After 11 years, all the

Liberals have left to offer is

negativity, desperation and dirty

tactics. The matter has been

referred to the Federal police.

This is a devastating blow for the

Coalition campaign as it battles to

hold on to every last marginal seat.

The concern for John Howard will be

whether voters have been too

distracted from his warning against

changing the Government simply for change's sake. Latest opinion

polls conflicting on whether the

Government is regaining ground. A

Galaxy survey showing a one-point

improvement for the Coalition

narrowing the gap to four points,

while Nielsen points to a Labor

landslide with a 3-point boost.

I'll find out on Saturday whether

I've been a good boy. As Australians prepare to cast

their votes tomorrow, our soldiers

serving in Afghanistan have already

had their say. Gone are the days of

paper voting forms. The modern-day

digger votes online using a special

know that their voting day has PIN number. As soon as we let them

come up, straight down to RH qument

and we've probably got a line-up of

to training the locals. 30 or 40 at a time. Then it's back

Kevin Rudd says a Labor government will take a tough stance on border

security, including turning back boat people. News Limited reports

Labor would aim to deter asylum

seekers by using the threat of detention and Australia's close

ties with Indonesia. Mr Rudd says

asylum seekers rescued from leaking

vessels would be taken to Christmas Island, but seaworthy boats would

be turned back. It follows the

rescue of 16 Indonesians from a leaking boat in the Timor Sea

earlier this week. Budget carrier Tiger Airways takes

to the skies today. The low-cost

offshoot of Singapore Airlines will

also launch nine debut flights between Melbourne and

between Melbourne and Queensland

destination. Tiger airwise spokes man Tony Davis has vowed to give

Australians consistent low-cost travealians consistent low-cost travel.

Can't argue with that.

Australian women are having more babies but apparently we're waiting longer to have them. The latest snapshot of mums and

babies from the Australian Institute of Health and Institute of Health and Welfare

reveals the average age of a

pregnant Australian woman is now

nearly 30. And an increasing

number are choosing to have a

Caesarean section, more than 30% in

2005, compared to 19.5% in 1996.

The number of births rose 6%, with

272,000 new bundles of joy between

2004 and 2005. I got the numbers

right for a change. How about that?

There's a first time for everything.

We'll be back with more of those

stories in the morning news at

11:00 and a full wrap at a:00.

She walks the line between the

living and the dead and her sixth

sense to tap into the heads of

criminals helps law enforcement

agencies solve criminal cases. Now Allison Dubois is sharing what

she's gleaned from the other side

to help the living live other lives.

Good morning, Allison. Hey. Thanks

for having me. How do the dead help

us? What I've learned from people

who've passed is the regrets they

seem to come through with and I

take that and do the opposite of

what their regrets were. They thank

helps me. They don't say, "I should

have hoarded my money. I should

have worked more." They say, "I

should have complimented my wife, I should have helped with the kids

more, I should have spent time with

my children." Those are the regrets.

Occasionally I'll pick my daughter

up for 'a dentist's appointment' and take her out shopping because

that's what she's going to remember.

I'm trying to teach people to -

It's teaching your kids to tell

fibs. I love that. It was a white lie and she'll remember that

forever. It seems so sad. You write

about it in your new book, the

regrets that the people that have passed to the other side have, it

seems so sad. Do you - They're coming to terms with it. It's

actually a good thing because they

recognise it and it's the fact that

they recognise it that can make it

right. So when I do a reading for

somebody and I bring the father

through and I'll say, "Your father

is saying that he's sorry he didn't

spend time with you. That he never told you he loved you in those

words but he does." You know things

of thal nature really does heal something. I'm trying to teach

people to make it better before

they die and realise in life. Are

they existing on the other side

angry and upset and feeling - Not

usually. I know they're portrayed

that way in movies and TV you know, moms that were talkative are still

talkative and loud. That never

stops? Great!? They'll make your

phone ring and nobody's there when

you answer it and the dads that

messed around in the workshop are

still around their sons that are

grown now that do the same things. It's very cool. They have no lines

on their face. They become the age

they were the happiest in their

life. Women tepid to be more vain

and revert to a younger age. Men

don't care so much. You're not

painting a great picture. I'm not

sure I want to go there. All this

talking and vanity. I'm dying to

know - now we've got you in the

chair - do you see things? Do you

hear them? Do you feel them? Do you

hear them? All of that. I've always

seen them, since I was small. I do

hear them. I think they'll probably

end up figuring out there's some

human beings that hear on a

frequency different from maybe

others, like a dog can hear a dog whistle that human beings can't

hear. I don't think we're so

different. I don't think we'll be

seen as so mysterious and

extraordinary once they figure out

that it's just a frequency we can

connect with. What I'm fascinated

by is to have an abstract feeling

about something, I think lots of

people have that feeling that maybe

- Absolutely - A feeling that maybe something's not right but you've

harnessed it in the most extraordinary way through the crime

profiling which was the basis for

the TV show. Right. How do you get

that stuff? I'm very competitive by

nature with myself. I'm my biggest

critic. I wanted to be a

prosecuting attorney. This was not

the job opportunity I was looking

for at the time but it's the path

I've been put on and I accept that.

But if I was going to do it, I was

either going to be really great at

it or I was going back to law

school and I was going to use it in

my everyday life. So I went to a

laboratory and let scientists

studry me and they gave me some extraordinary tests. They ask a

question to the other side, I had

to talk to the other side and give

them the answer without knowing

what the question was. It doesn't

get much harder than that and when

I did that the first time in the

lab, I was like, "Oh, wow." And I

get last names and know it's a last

name. That was telling me I have to

do this. This is what I'm here to

do. Just on that, dealing with

crime must be extraordinarily

taxing. Yes and in this book I

actually talk about that and I -

I'm taking a little bit of

retirement now after 7.5 years. I'm

a little wiped out. So the last

case that I worked was for a talk

show host in Chicago in America.

And I worked a case and allowed

them to film it so people could see

what it was like. I had always said

I would never do that, that it was

something that I wanted to stay

away from, not to make it entertainment. It's almost a

betrayal in a sense. It was a hard situation. I was already booked for

the show, I was already going, they

set me up to read people on it.

There was a missing kid in my home

state. The parents contacted my

husband, Joe, and the only way to

work the case was to incorporate it

into the show, you know, into that.

So I let them follow me for that so

I could work the case. What do you,

um, what gives you the most

self-satisfaction with your

abilities? When children get it. I

love it when they come to my book

signings and I look at them and I'm

like, "You see them too, don't you?"

it's so satisfying that I can not

make that generation so hardened

that they get it, if they don't shut down, they're open people. How can you enkurblg it in your children? I think my children see things. Sure. But I don't want them

to be scared. I was scared as a kid.

Yours do too, don't they? Mine are

quite good at it. My oldest

competes with me. "OK, grass hopper, momy's been doing it a little

longer than you so stand back."

She's very good. If you talk to

them in terms of angels, you know,

"Grandpa is your angel," whoever

has passed, it softens it for them

because there's something within a

child that an angel is gentle and

good and it takes the fear away as

far as something Ethereal that's

around them. I find that works very

well and if they want them to go

away all they have to do is tell

them to go away and parents that

don't have abilities can talk to

the other side and say, "Please

protect my children. Please watch

over them." And it's very much like

prayer except there's somebody who

has passed there that helps to make

the answer to your prayer come to

pass. It's very comforting. Yes.

You've said about your middle

daughter that she is able to locate

objects like nobody I've seen. Yes,

yes. She's a finder. She's really good. When she was really tiny,

like four or five, I had the flu

and my husband, Joe, had lost his

razor and he looked like he was

going to lose enough blood to take

him out of this world without his

special razor so I said, "Can you

close your eyes and visualise a

blank, white sheet and where do you

see daddy's razor as being?" and

she said, "This in the drawer in

the hall." Other other child had

hidden it. So with her I can play

these games. I'll say - we'll pull

up in the car after going and

she'll go, "Give me the sucker in

the glove compartment." And we had

just bought one and I'm like how

did she know? She's good at food especially, locating the candy and

stuff. It's kind of funny. The

title of your new book is 'Secrets

of the Monarch', can you tell us

why and it's relevance to the song

'Circle of Life'. That's my

Democrat's song. My dad's passed

and he brings it through to let us

know he's around and when my dad

had died, it was his song for my

daughter, Aurora. It was my daughter's birthday after the first

year she passed and I asked him to

do something for her for her

birthday and could you play 'The

Circle of Life'. You ask them, you

tell them what you need. They do it.

I still struggle with the loss but

I'm touched by my dad. It makes

sense if you listen to the song,

"And never take more than you give."

I love that. The book is all about

assisting people to get in touch

with people who have passed. How

difficult is it if you have had a

very strained relationship with the

person who has passed? I see that a

lot. It's important for the living

to understand that when people make

mistakes in life, especially our

parents, when they pass, they see

their mistakes and they want to

make amends and that is not

something you need to carry with

you. Dads that didn't convey their

affection enough is a big one that

comes through because moms tend to

be more affectionate. Occasionally

it's a mom but often it's a dad

that comes through. If people keep

in mind that they can shift their energy on the other side and

they're not the same person they were in life exactly because they

lose their issues. If they were

raised during the depression and

it was more about working, working,

working because they wanted to put

food on the table instead of

holding your children, we have to

understand that was because that

was the time they were raised,

it's not that they didn't love us.

You have to change your perspective,

shift it and realise that they, as

well, have and would be more

affectionate now and they always

say I'm going to try and help new

the other side to make it up to you,

I'm going to be there for you now.

How can we encourage them into our

lives? How can we be open to it?

They don't need encouragement.

They're there. They're usually very frustrated. They'll send people a

sign and the person will go, "Wow!

You know, that perfume smelled just

like my mom's." And they'll explain

it away and they're just beating

their head against the wall going,

"I'm trying to give you what you're

asking for and you're not hearing

me." I ask people to keep an open

mind and to let your spirit be as

strong as your mind because if you

overthink things, you miss a lot of

it. Yeah. So take notice of the

smells and the sounds. Old men like

the cigar smell, a lot of grandmas,

the perfume because that was an

identifying marker for them. Sound

definitely. Books, songs, things

like that that were directly tied

to the decreased will keep coming

up. You have a dedication in the

book to Steve Irwin. Yes. Why?

Would you ever assume to try and

get in touch with someone like

Steve Irwin? Um, I put him in the

dedication because I watched him on

TV with my children for years and, um, he's big in America. And I

used to look at him on TV and talk

to my husband, Joe, and say, "He

really got it. That's one person

who is passionate, they're living

their passion, he loves his wife,

loves his kids." I was like, "He

gets it." And it's nice to see a human being that truly almost

seemed bigger than his physical self

He exude that life. And when he died, it devastated our family

because he was such a good person.

I know good people die to inspire

the world. He was one of them, unfortunately that's what it cost

for the rest of us to have an awareness of what good truly is. So

I put him in there as a wife my

heart goes out to his. I can only

imagine. The children. That's hard,

his son probably won't remember his

dad. He'll have to learn about it through other people. So I really

felt like I needed to pay tribute

to him in the book. Thankfully

there's lots of videotape for them

to watch as well . When I do

readings, often the children that

didn't get the feeling of what it

was like to be held by the father, things like that, it's something

they search for, so I would imagine

his son will have a son and name it

after his dad and understand the

connection better. I see the

evolution of family in the generations. It's very beautiful.

Exactly. You hate to think of, once

someone's died, you hate to think

of family holding those grudges and

still being angry at them - It's a

waste. It's definitely a waste and

people need to learn to let go of

that. It's no way to live. It's no

way to live. You go to book signings and you have this uncanny

knack to write in the cover the

epitaph on the head stone. I didn't

even realise I was really good at that until the last couple of years

when I had enough people run out of

the room screaming which makes me

feel really bad. You're a witch! I

told my husband. "Imagine what it's told my husband. "Imagine what it's

like to live a life where you make

people burst into tears." You have

to be pretty secure as a person to

do that. You know, it soothes them

to have that conversation. Are you

aware that something's entering

your awareness? No. I know when I'm

signing the books or giving a

speech - I've never written a speech

that I've stood and said. I get up

and whatever messages need to come

through me I say come through through me I say come through me

and I pass on the messages and and I pass on the messages and it's

always the right message at the

right time and when I sign the books, if there's somebody that's

passed and something that should be

said, my hand just seems to write

it and it's not everybody that it

happens for but it does happen at

my signings so it's kind of cool.

Literally. Wow. That's quite extraordinary. It's such a pleasure

to meet you. I'm sure lots of

people get comfort from the book.

Into thank you. I appreciate that.

That's why I do it. Thanks for your

time. Thanks for having me. We'll be back with lots more after this.

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Most of us desire our 15 minutes of fame and if you're a short film-maker, 15 minutes is about

all you get. But those taking a tilt at the big screen have now

been given the opportunity to extend their 15 minutes from a

short to a long. First the first

time, the enormously successfully

short Film Festival Tropfest has

been alloweded to allow one budding film film maker the chance to produce a

feature film. The first is a film

called 'September' being released

nationally next week. John Polson,

the man behind Tropfest and the

producer of 'September' joins us.

How's it going guys? Good, thanks. Tropfest keeps going from strength

to strength. It sure does. It's

been 15 years. It feels like a couple of years to couple of years to me but it's

definitely bigger and better than

ever. We're always trying to think

of what we can be doing to develop

it and make it more interesting for

the audiences and also for the

people who enter and what other

opportunities we can offer them and

that's what the Tropfest feature

program is. Before the feature program. There's Tropfest at

Tribeca too, isn't there? Tribeca too, isn't there? Y films

go to try Bekaa. Tropfest at Tribeca is its own competition. We

get primarily New York film makers

and also some Australians. It was

won by an Australian this year

which was a little

which was a little embarrassing for New York as well. Occasionally

we'll screen the best of the

Australian Tropfest but it's really a new competition a new competition that happens out

of New York. OK. I was going to say,

mates of mine won a couple of mates of mine won a couple of years

ago now, it was more than a couple,

maybe 10 years ago now, and it

really set them off on a path. They're now working in a television

production company. But I think they're unusual and I'm really delighted to hear that you're

giving people now the chance that

go on from make ago short film to

making something more substantial and showing what

and showing what skills they've got. That's exactly the point of it. We

were finding, you know, you'd get

selected to be in the finals or

you'd win and sometimes, like your

friends, you'd go on and get a

great career in film or television

or the advertising world and other

times you sort of wouldn't and it wasn't anyone's fault. I wasn't anyone's fault. I kept

saying to people, if you're going

to get in, if you're going to get in, make sure they had a in, make sure they had a feature

script or TV idea or something. script or TV idea or something.

That seemed to work out. Two or

three years ago, we got the idea,

"What if we were to make anybody

who has ever been a finalist

eligible to submit a feature script,

we have a panel of people that read

them, some of the top people in the Australian film industry, they look

at the scripts, we choose one." We

chose this film 'September', which

was a beautiful script and we set

about raising the money and the film opens on the 29th. film opens on the 29th. You don't

have to win. It's only finalists.

It's just finalists. I was worried, if it's about the winner, there's

pressure on them, they might not

have a feature script or whatever.

It is just about making a slightly

smaller pool to choose from and

also give an extra incentive for

people to enter Tropfest, of course. A lot of people understand you

can't really make a career out of

short films but you can hopefully

parlay that into something else.

Before we talk about 'September',

does a short film-maker a great

feature film-director make? feature film-director make? That's

a very good question. It doesn't

always. It doesn't always. You know,

there's a big difference between

holding someone's attention for 90

or 100 minutes and weaving three

structures and - not all films are like that - but like that - but three-act

structures. There are more

similarities between shorts and

features than there are differences.

You've got to be able to work with actors, you've got to be able to

manage people, and deal moment by

moment by moment. The difference is

there are many more moments in a

feature film. There's more chance

that you'll find a good short

maker will make something decent.

The film 'September' is in my mind

a beautiful-looking film. It's a beautiful-looking film. It's got

a very tight and concise storyline,

hasn't it Mm-hm. A lot of the film - you've said it doesn't rely on

lots of action. It's about the

space in there. It's almost a short

film concept in a longer format in

a sense. It is in some ways. It's a

very gentle story. It's very minimalist, which is what a minimalist, which is what a lot of

the audiences we've been showing it

to have really responded to. It's a

very intimate film. It's a story of

these two boys, one Aboriginal and

one Australian, set in 1968 against

the political backdrop of a very

specific point in time in

Australia's history. But it's not really about that as much as that's

a part of the story. It's really about this friendship between these

two boys who two boys who realise there's sort

of a very - a moment coming up very soon where it's going to be

more and more difficult for them to

remain friends. And I'm a huge remain friends. And I'm a huge fan

of the the film. I can say that

humbly as a producer because it's

really Peter Carstairs who really Peter Carstairs who wrote

and directed the film, it's his

baby, but it's a very accomplished

and very beautiful film and the

responses have been great. So we're

excited. What sort of support did

you give him in making it? you give him in making it? I read

somewhere the budget was $2.5

million. That's a sizeable budget

for someone to keep control of.

Were you there at every step to offer support and advice and

direction along the way? I was

there at the sort of what I think

were the key moments. I was around for the development of the script because, when he submitted the

sciment to us, when Peter did, it

was shorter thanever average

feature script so we were around to

give feedback on development. We

were around for casting and then I

was there, you know, I think it

shot for four weeks and I was there

for about just under half that. Not

all the time. I would come in at

critical points in post-production.

But I have a very good partner here

in Australia, Serena Paul, who

covered all the rest of it. I feel

like what we did, I hope

successfully, was on the one hand

give Peter all the creative

freedom he needed but at the same

time provide some experience, because I've directed four films

myself, so I was in a position myself, so I was in a position to

say, "Hey , this is what's going to

be happening next," and, "This

could be a problem, keep an eye

out," and that kind of stuff. But it's definitely his film and it's definitely his film and we're

proud of that. You mentioned

casting and I know the whole idea

of Tropfest is to give young unnons

a chance and that was no differen a chance and that was no different in the

in the casting, was it? Yeah. We

were very clear that this program,

the tro Tropfest feature program,

is not just about giving directors

a break. The DOP , jewels

O'Loughlin is a young DOP O'Loughlin is a young DOP from

Sydney. He'd only shot one Sydney. He'd only shot one feature

before that. We tried to be really smart about giving a whole range of

people a break but, at the same people a break but, at the same

time, putting key people in key

positions to make sure that, you

know, $2.5 million got spent the

right way. Yeah. I'm sure you're

aware of the problem with yourself

and your festival being so

successful in that you highlight the brilliance that is here to the

outside world and off they go. That

is a problem. Which brings us to

the conversation about the

Australian film industry. You

mentioned before, it was

interesting, Kim said, "2.5 million,

that's a lot of money." That's not

a lot of money in terms of

international - That's the catering

budget on movies. For us, it is a

big budget, isn't it? For us, it's

somewhere in the middle. I think it

was big enough for this film but

every film is different. But the

question I'm getting to is - is this

a good place to make movies?

Because, few go overseas, you've

got all that support, haven't you?

You do. You have bigger budgets,

there are bigger fees, you know, the

truth is it is sometimes easier f

truth is it is sometimes easier for

the films to get seen, which no

film-maker wants to spend a year

or two years of their lives slogging

away, in as in the case of

'September' and get it out to the

cinemas and people don't show up.

So the one thing the Americans

obviously do have a market on if

you like is pushing films out there.

They have big stars and all the

rest of it. But that's why we're -

it's one of the reasons we do the Tropfest feature program, we're

trying to say to people, "Of course,

few make a good film are good short

even, you can get on the plane and

go to LA, get an agent and do all

the rest of it." But one of my

focuses - it's a little ironic

given what I've been doing too given what I've been doing too - to

try and provide opportunities in

Australia where - we all know that

Australia can make great films. We

know it. Unfortunately, they are

few and far between sometimes it

feels like but, you know, we do

have the resources here, we could

always do with more money and more

time to make the scripts better,

but we have incredible actors here, both very well known and not both very well known and not so

well known. So I think it's a great environment to make films. But environment to make films. But for

whatever reason, it just doesn't

happen enough. We were chatting with

Greg McClean the other day, who did

'Rogue' and there seemed to be lots

of Australians who want to come

back here to do it but they're

doing it as a co-production with an

American company. Absolutely. Which

works as well. That's a great plan

too. You know, there are - laws

have been passed recently where

major rebates for, you know, people

for shooting their films in

Australia. 40%. 40% of the budget,

which means - It's not like the old 110%, the 10BA. That seemed less

focused on the quality of the films. Films, which is why we had films

like that, some of which I starred

in, I must say. People like Greg,

there are great opportunities to there are great opportunities to

come back here and make films. What

I get a little bit nervous about is

you're going to come back and make

a film that's got one American star - it's effectively an American film,

which is great. Like, great, lot of

work for the crew, but what about

our stuff? You know, like

'September' which is an incredibly 'Australian Story', it's about a

moment in Australia's history, what

about films like that? Aren't they

important too? I don't know about you guys, I get

you guys, I get a little bit sick

of going and there's eight films on

and every one of them is, you know,

an American blockbuster and

whatever. It's kind of nice to tell

our own stories. And about American

stories. Absolutely. Where's the

hiccup here? It's a lack of funding,

it's a lack of investment,

obviously. But do we have the

writers? Do we pay the writers?

Obviously we do have the writers

but why go into the film or TV

business in Australia? We had

Robson Green on who has his own production company and produces

'Bird on a Wire' and he's the actor

in it as well. I can't remember the

figure but it was many thousands of

dollars are given to great a

scriptwriter in the UK to do TV or

film. It was a huge number. Was it

$200,000 or something. Crazy. We

nearly dropped on the floor. There

are writers in America that you

probably haven't heard of that

could realistically get paid $1

million to write a script. Wow.

It's crazy money, but it's this

simple - there's 300 million people

in that country. There's 70 million

people in the UK. And there's 20

million people in Australia. So it

is partly a numbers game. But, you

know, it's a little bit of a

cop-out too. Because I think, you

know, 20 million people should be

enough, if Australians are

interested in watching Australian films, it should be enough to make

a success. I think we're also -

we've also got to take

responsibility, we've made some Turkies. We've really made some

Turkies over the years. There have

been a few stinkers. Absolutely.

The other thing is some of the journalists have been kind about

them so people go along having seen

a good review sometimes and they're

disappointed and, you know, how

many times can do you that? So I

think it's a huge discussion. Maybe

I'll come back and we'll do the

whole show about it. Should we,

should journalists, should

entertainment journos be tougher in

that case? I agree, sometimes you

read the review and see the film read the review and see the film a

go, "That was dreadful." I don't

know about being tougher. I think

they should be honest. They should

be honest about a film. I've had

the other thing too where I've been

to, say, a premiere or something

and the film has clearly gone very,

very well and the review makes it

sound - it completely ignores the audience reaction and doesn't

mention that, "OK, I hated this

film but 300 or 400 people who were

there loved it." I'm talking about

a couple of reviews that I've seen

where I've been, "Wow, where I've been, "Wow, they're

pumping it up," and I know people

are going to go and be disappointed.

It's a huge discussion. To go back

to your point, that's valid.

Writers need more support. When

you're getting $30,000, $40,000 a

script and it's taking you a year

to write, you're not going to put

time and focus and effort into it.

You'll work as a waiter or doing

something else.

something else. Exactly. You've got

a burgeoning directing career in

the States. You're doing television,

'Without a Trace'. We're running out of time but I want to talk about

'Tenderness' which is your movie

coming up. You got US $10 million

and you've got Russell Crow in it

and most of the money should and most of the money should go to

him. He was good. Mate's rates? Is

it tough working with a mate? I found it wasn't that hard. He was,

you know, very, very good to me, to

be honest with you. To put it in

perspective, the film was a seven

or eight-week shoot. Russell's part

is what you might call a third lead.

It's really two young kids. He was

in it for two weeks and we scheduled so he scheduled so he came in and stayed

for two weeks. He was incredible,

both on screen and off. Seriously,

I'm not just saying this He's an

amazing actor. Too few people

realise that he's an incredible,

loyal, decent human being who copse

a bad rap every now and then and

sometimes it's hills own fault and sometimes it's not. He came in for two weeks. He was there on two weeks. He was there on time,

which cannot be said about every

actor. I've waited literally up to five hours waiting for actors I

won't mention. He was incredible

and the film, we just finished the

film a week ago. It comes out next

year! You're no slouch as an actor

yourself. Thank you very much. You're a really good actor. Into You're a really good actor. Into I

appreciate you saying that. When

you see someone like Russell work,

do you get blown away? Do you go, do you get blown away? Do you go,

"God! Where does that come from?"

Absolutely. I'm a big fan of his. I don't go wow around the set because

you're so focused on trying to ma you're so focused on trying to make

the film and you expect it. When

you cast Russell, you're not

surprised that he does a great job.

I mean, that's kind of why you get

him. Of course there are moments

where you get very excited and it's not quite - it's it's not quite - it's better than

what you imagined or it's

different to what you imagined and

it's so much better than you

thought and whatever and there are

other times with any actor where

it's not quite what you thought it

should be and you get in and

should be and you get in and try

and give some advice. That can be,

depending on the act orb that can

be... Tricky. Into yeah. The best

actors. I've worked with Russell

and Robert De Niro, and they're the

best actors because they're completely open to suggestion. It's completely open to suggestion. It's

the guys in the middle that don't

want to take feedback. That comes

from confidence. If they're

confident in themselves, they'll

give it a go your way, why not? Absolutely. That's across the board

with the arts. The best musicians I

know have no problem thinking about

it differently. It's the ones that

are struggling. Somebody sent me a

great thing the other day that said,

"If you have few ideas, you hang on

to them with all you can." But

people with ideas coming every few

minutes have no problem throwing it away because there's another one

round a corner. Great point. It's

got to be daunting directing Robert

De Niro. It was. I won't lie to you.

It was daunting meeting him. Did

you genuflect and cross yourself?

Actually, no, I tried to treat it

like any other actor. I really did. As

As hard as I could. I sat in his

waiting room when I went to meet

him and I tried to say to myself,

"He's just an actor." And I walk in and there's De Niro and just the

two of us and he sits down and it

was bizarre. I tried to keep it

together and just be professional

and, um, you know, I got the job

and then, during the shoot, again,

I made a pact with myself never I made a pact with myself never to

mention any movie he'd ever done

because I thought, "What would be

the worst thing if I was Robert De

Niro?" everyone saying, "Let's try

this line like you did in 'Taxi

Driver' or 'King of Comedy'. I

wanted him to feel like I'd never

heard of him. I think he responded

to that because it was so bizarre

to have a director talk to him like

anyone else. I think he liked it.

'September' is out next week.

September 29. Sorry! November 29.

Was it late in production? Into not

at all. Only kidding. Congratulations for all that you do.

Thank you very much. Thanks for

having me, guys. Thanks for coming.

Anthony is next with chocolate and

booze disguised as cake. Beauty! This festive season at FOXTEL, we're saying a lot of f-words. For example free installation and your first month of

Anthony's in to end the working

week with a great little treat to remind you of a

remind you of a steamy max can

night. What do you mean? It's deck

cannot and it's wicked and it's

Kahlua. OK. I don't get it. The

Mayan pyramids and the Yucatan

Peninsula. We'll move on. It is

deck cannot and rich. It's a torte

and it's food from Satan really.

It's pretty good. I like that.

Better than food from the Better than food from the gods.

What is it? Torte - the simple

explanation of a torte is a round

cake. It's another word coming

from our good friends the Italians

who pretty much invented cooking.

But there's no flour. It's a form

of cake which you could use almond

meal or not meal or bred crumbs

instead of flour. You've heard of

sacher torte and Linzer torte, the

Austrian versions. There's a French

version as well. It's just a form

of a cake not held together by

flour. I'm going to get you both

working on this, left and right of

me. Kim, can you beat the egg

whites. David, you're doing this

part where you shall mix for me - really simple - what have I really simple - what have I got here?

here? Some coffee. This is a Kahlua

torte - Instant coffee? Only use

instant? I'm adding hot water. You

could use three table spoons of es

press owe instead. Nice help. Would

you like soft peaks? I would love

that. And a couple of table spoons of hot water of hot water like so and a table

spoon of Kahlua. And to that I've

got caster sugar, almond meal, a

mixing de vice and some egg yokes.

You mix those together. Is that

enough? Perfect, actually, Soft

little peaks that fall over there.

If you make hard peaks it dries the

egg white out and when you try and egg white out and when you try and

mix it in - It separates. That's

why you need soft peaks. We'll get

rid of this. OK, the chocolate.

I've melt the chocolate and butter,

right, into that. And that's just -

Because there's not nearly enough

fat in chocolate already. No, no.

Working away nicely there, David

Reyne. Thank you very much. Without

the flour, is it dense the flour, is it dense and the flour, is it dense and heavy?

Into it but the egg whites lighten

that up. So it's great for people

who are gluten intolerant. Mo more

and more people seem to have

irritable bowel syndrome, celiac,

Crohn's disease. More and more. Can

you overdo it? I always thought

that you fold them in. You can be a

bit surlyy with this

bit surlyy with this one. Surlyy?

I'm your man. David will do a good

job! Predictable but funny still.

This is mask pony. I'm going to do

a Kahlua and mascarpone cheese.

This is an Italian soft cream

cheese that we will now mix with

some icing sugar and some Kahlua.

Kim, feel free to be liberal. Am I

using a mixing machine or? Break

it up with the whisk and see it up with the whisk and see how you go. Meantime I'm going to line

the tin with a cartourhe. A fancy

word for a circular piece of paper.

Take a square piece and fold it in half, in half again, into half, in half again, into a

triangle, again and once more. Sow

don't need to use a pen and a pair

of scissors. Get the pointy

of scissors. Get the pointy bit in

the middle. Mark the inside edge

with the thumb and then cut it and when you open it up, you have a perfect circle that fits. That's

amazing. If we were American, we'd

applaud that. We can do applause.

Can I tell you how good Can I tell you how good mascarpone

is with a bit of clue ya. it works

for me. We bake this at 160 degrees

for 35 to 40 minutes until it sets.

Love snoo love York work. That's

lovely. And now, that's great,

David. How simple was that? Very

easy. Even David could do it. That's a compliment. I don't know

how. They're always backhanded in a

kitchen, aren't they? A tip for the

kiddies. If you want to dress the

plate up a bit, I'm going to do something that the professional

cooks at home think are boring but

for the domestic cook, this is nice.

I've got a spoon and fork. I'm

going to do this. My kids would

think this was really clever. And

all I'm doing is gardenishing the plate and that comes off and that

comes off. Very nice. You've got

that, beautiful. I'm going to pop

this to one side for a sec.

What a horrifying mess. More

Kahlua? Are you happy? Kahlua? Are you happy? That's perfect. This

perfect. This is the torte now. Did

you hear what he said? What was the

word? The word was 'perfect' Kim Watkins. You didn't get that.

A wet knife. It's low and dense.

It's not a big fluffy cake. I like this. I like it a lot.

this. I like it a lot. It's quite a

delicate little number. That's

fresh from the oven so it's so soft.

It's still a bit warm. And then I'm

going to take a little - Would

going to take a little - Would you stop! Gee!

Go into position. David, take your Go into position. David, take your

greedy gob here and shovel it full.

I was concentrating on my bit.

What's on top again? Mascar porks

ne and Kahlua whipped into a frenzy

perfectly by me. That's it. It's

simple, and dense. If this sets

overnight, it's even better. Oh,

man that's good. Oh, that's good.

Oh, yeah, that's good. Oh, yeah, that's good. And

surprisingly not - I thought it

would be really sickening but it's actually not really sickening and

sweet at all. It's just delicious.

Well done, Telf. Good job. Thank

you. Beautiful. We'll see you the

week after next. Marvellous. If you

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the surviving Idols prepare for the surviving Idols prepare for the Opera House.

This program is captioned live.

He was the yuplgest, the last to

audition, the first into the final

12 and has been the favourite. She

wowed them in the auditions, snuck

into the top into the top 12 and then consl

dated her position with a show

stopper. This Sunday at the Opera House, Matt Corby and Natalie

Gauchi go head-to-head to see who

will be the new Australian Idol and

Nat and Matt join us live from

Sydney. Good morning! Are you

shivering because you're kind of in

anticipation? Is it a bit chilly?

It's a bit chilly. It's alright.

It's exciting, though. The buzz It's exciting, though. The buzz is

definitely here. You can feel it.

Yes. What she said. Nat, can I ask

you, you kind of snuck into the

final 12. No, she didn't! She

earned her way. Yeah, but I was the

last one. That's alright. last one. That's alright. That's

not sneaking. Did that encourage

you? Or did you feel it was

slipping away from you at that

point? I felt I needed point? I felt I needed to work hard

and prove myself to the public

because the judges voted me in. It

was kind of like I wanted to get

the public's approval and it's one

of those things where if you're

performing and just the judges performing and just the judges vote

you think, "Oh, my God. Do people

actually like me." The thing that

was - sorry, you go. No, go ahead.

The thing that was good about Nat

is after she got put through she wasn't in the bottom wasn't in the bottom three for ten

weeks or something. Top four or

something like that. That shows

that people go, "Oh, no. She's God." Thanks, Matt. In terms of the

dynamics of the show, we read lots

in newspapers and of course you

only believe half of what you read.

I'm wondering does your confidence

start off at a high at the

beginning and slowly and slowly you

kind of become more aware of your failings? Or does it work failings? Or does it work in the

opposite direction? Which has it

been for you, Matt? For me, I

started up here, like um, and every

time I got sort of smashed in the

papers and stuff like that, it sort

of just kept going down and down.

And I think that's when you saw I

had a bit of a confidence crisis

half way through the show and I was

a bit shaky and I was just worried

because anything - I knew that anything I did anything I did wouldn't be good

enough for some people. It was a

bit of a hard time for me in that

little period, but you've got to

keep your chin up and keep going. I

didn't expect it to be this brutal

sometimes. That's OK. I imagine

that's affects all the decisions

that you make. It's interesting,

Matt, your choice of songs. I was looking through them. You've done

songs from Earth Wind and Fire, Coldplay, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Led Zeppelin. I

Zeppelin. I don't see the

connection. How do either of you

make your choices? I think I tried

very hard this year to stick to the

genre. I try pretty hard to play

the game this year. I thought I

could go either two ways, and just

put my spin on everything and go

the opposite and go, like, stick

real close to what every genre was real close to what every genre was

aiming for, so