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the book, won the Grand Prix at

Kahn Cannes this year and has

been closen for an award at the

Oscars. Like the book, it aimed

for authenticity, using locals

to tell their own stories. And

in a twist in the tale, at

least two of the actors were

last week arrested and charged

with extortion. The move movie

is due for release in Australia

in the coming months. Now to

the weather - thunderstorms

will return to Brisbane. Darwin

is expect ing seasonal storms.

A few showers in Melbourne,

Hobart and Perth. Fine but

partly cloudy in Sydney and

Adelaide. Sunny in

Canberra. That's all from us.

Lateline Business coming up in

just a moment. If you bould

like to look back at tonight's

interview with Simon Overland

or review any stories of

transcriptks, you can visit our

website. Now Lateline

Business is Ticky

Fullerton. Thanks. Tonight,

Australia's fourth rate cut in

four months - but can it kick

start a slowing economy? The

global economy is in recession

and if anything that recession

has intensified in the fourth

quarter of this year. And the

risk to Australia are as a

result clearly to the downside

in terms of growth. The

definition of recession -

expert analysts say the US

economy ticks all the

boxes. Despite the efforts of

the Federal Reserve and other

policy maker, the US economy

remains under considerable

stress. And Japan continues to

fight off its recession as its

central bank announces special

measures to free up lending.

First to the markets and

Australian shares failed to get

out of reverse gear following

the Dow Jones near 700 point

fallover night. The All Ords

tumbled 4% with the four

deepening of the Reserve Bank's

announcement. The ASX 200 shed

over 150 points, driven lower

by declines in resource stocks.

Asian markets didn't escape the

gloom: The Nikkei unged in over

6% and the hang essential

closed 5% waerk. And the FTSE

has pulled back earlier losses

and is up 1.5%. The Reserve

Bank has continued its

aggressive easing of monetary

policy, cut ing the official

cark rate by 1% to irts lowest

level in six years. The bank

continued to be worried by the

dramatic slowing in the global

economy and its affect on

Australia. I has indicate stld

could be more rate reductions

to come. With the United

States now officially in

recession, and commodity prices

plummeting, the Reserve Bank

remains gravely concerned about

the outlook for Australia. The

global economy is in recession

and if anything that recession

has intensified in the fourth

quarter of this year. And the

risk to Australia are as a

result clearly to the downside

in terms of growth. Which is

why the Reserve Bank has been bracing to move Australian

interest rates to an

expansionary setting. Today's

reduction of 1 percentage point

means rates have been cut by

three% age points since

September, an effective

reduction of more than 40%. In

explaining its latest decision,

the Reserve Bank pointed to the

loss of confidence created by the global financial crisis,

noting that would lead to more

cautious behaviour by both

households and businesses which

is is likely to see demand

remain subdued in the near

term. In other words, the

economy is slowing at a rapid

rate. 4.25 takes us back to the

low in 2001. We've moved there

at a very fast

pace. Snails. But while the

economy is cooling, it hasn't

come to a stand still with the

October retail sales figures

catching everyone by

surprise. Sale s increased

nearly 1% when most economists

were expecting them to fall. I

it's not a great result but for

Gail Percy who owns the Mitre

10 hard ware store in New town,

the downturn has had a silver

lining. We've found it being a

do it yourself handyman store,

there are far more people

coming to DIY now, even

professional people who have

never painted in their lives

are coming. Leslie Marsh and

Catherine Joyner run an

up-market furnishing business

where customers view the

products set up in a room home.

Many of their wealthy clients

have been caught up in the

turmoil in financial markets an

sales this year are down about

15%. I think people worried

about whether their husbands

were going to have jobs and

they're being a little bit

cautious. Like all business

people, Leslie Marsh welcomes

the latest reduction in

interest rates but recognises

any benefit s won't be

immediate. Probably not now so

much. There's only a few weeks

till Christmas. We will get

some increase in sale s. Our

main showing that we've had is

that's winding up. I think it

will give people confidence for

next year. With the Reserve

Bank so worried about the

economy, it's good to have

perspective, and Mitre 10 in

Newtown has been in business in

one form or another for more

than 100 years. In the Great

Depression, as now, home

renovators abandoned tradesmen

and did the work

themselves. That was the time

we expanded and put six more

stores throughout Sydney both

on the north shore and western

suburbs. It was really quite

booming times. While ace is a

long way from another

depression, these are not boom

times for most businesses,

which is why interest rates may

fall. Australia's economic still have further to

growth maybe be slowing

rapidly, but the outlook for

the world's biggest economy has

taken a more ominous #2ur7b,

with a private panel of leading

US academic s say #2g country

has been in a recession for the

past 12 months. As Wall Street

tumbled nearly 8% overnight,

Federal Reserve chairman Ben

Bernanke admitted that the US

economy had continued to slide

over recent months. But with American interest rates

anchored at 1%, the world's

most powerful central banker

signaled a readiness to use

less convention al policies,

including buying Treasury

securities. Regarding interest

rate policies, although further

reductions from the current

Federal funds rate target of 1%

are certainly feasible, at this

point the scope for using conventional interest rate

policies to support the economy

is obviously limited. Indeed

the actual Federal funds rate

has been trading consistently

below the committee's 1% target

in recent weeks, reflecting the

large quantity of reserves that

are lending activities have put

into the system. Despite the

efforts of the Federal Reserve

and other policy makers, the US

economy remains under

considerable stress. But the

thing we've known and I've

known is that we are in an

economy that has slowed down

significantly. The American

people know that. And I think

the American people have known

that for some time. So I don't

think this is going to be big

news. I think they've known the

economy has slowed down. We

focussed on it and everything

I'm doing is to address that

slowdown the best way I know

how, which is through

stabilising the financial

system. I think the - some of

the stresses in the financial

system have played a major role

in the slowdown in the economy,

and so again I think one of the

most effective things we can do

is to strengthen the finance

ideal system and get craed yitd

flowing again. And un blocking

the credit market s has become

a priority in Japan as well as

the country fights its first

recession in seven years. At an

emergency policy meeting today,

Japan's central bank announced

that it will take steps to en

courage domestic banks to free

up lending to businesses. The

BOJ left interest rates on hold

but unfailed - unveiled new

measures that will allow banks

to use lower rate s bonds for

security. The Bank of Japan

has already signaled that at

0.3% it has little room to move

on interest rates. So it's

looking for other ways to ease

the financial squeeze on

Japanese business. Corporate

lending costs are rising at a

rate faster than at any time

since the bursting of Japan's

economic bubble. Today's

meeting resulted in measure s

that BOJ hope also cajole Japan's domestic banks into

freeing up the finance. "We

think this is a power policy

from the Bank of Japan's

side:" It's small companies

that are feeling the pinch.

They ooh l've already been hit

bay domestic slowdown. Figure s

out last month show that Japan

has entered a technical

recession and they've been hit

by a strong yeb and falling

behand from the United States.

Today's decision means bankies

can now access more money from

the central bank using lower

rates triple B corporate rated

bonds. "By giving them

preferencial rates which think

this will sure up the economy."

But analysts are sceptical.

They say financiers are not

likely to ease lending controls

unless some of the lower rated

debt is taken off their books

permanently. The BOJ hopes

today's decision also pump

around $50 billion extra

finance into the

economy. Returning now to the local share market and to find

out what happened in the day's

trading, I spoke to market

analyst Marcus Padley. Marcus

Padley, how did the market take

the latest interest rate cut by

the Reserve Bank? Well, not

terribly well. We went from

basically the top of our range

to the bottom of the range

after the announcement. We

ended up down 1 a 5 p 3 points

and it seems to be the RBA have

told us they now feel they're

in an expansionary phase with

monetary policy and they did

raise, cut rates by a little

bit more than expected, 100

poise is pointses. And people

now feel we've got less

likelihood of more rate cuts to

come. We saw tliention the

Aussie dollar going up, despite

a rate cut usually it would go

down. If interest rates are

going down. There is a bit of

fear that the RBA have more

fear for the future for the

outlook on China and Europe

than we currently recognise. It

wasn't terribly good news for

us. Is there any clear

rationale comes from the

market? Was last week just

another sucker's rally? I think

you would have to call it that.

We've had six or seven of those

in the last four months. Last

week we saw the market up about

14.5%. In just a week you saw

thing likes BHP Mo 50% from

bottom to top, up 36% on the

week. That followed Wall Street

up 18.5% and they of course

loss 7.5% last night. So the

faith ometer hit a new low when

we woke up this morning to find

Wall Street down. Clearly we

are not at the bottom of the

market. All the news is still

bad and anyone trying to buy

from the bottom is still guessing. The resources sector

has been particular ly weak

again? Yes, we've seen BHP, Rio

and Woodside down 9% today. I

think after the rapid rally and

things like BHP last week and

the hope the resources move a&

lot faster than rest of the

market ob the hope there was

that much more disappointment

today. But you're pigging up

more investor frustration today

over disclosure

levels? Absolute I. It's turned

up in the research as well.

Broker s are questioning why

there wasn't more disclosure

about this issue before it

happened and there is no doubt shareholders are very

disappointed to find that a

company just because of media

speculation about what their

position is and because of

confidentiality of the talks

with the banks have put their

share into a trading halt or a

suspension for a full month. I

mean, if you suspended every

stock that had media

speculation or was in

confidential discussions with

somebody into a trading hold,

there wouldn't be a stock

market left. But here we have

Oz mineral Dosing that and that

has certainly upset

shareholders as has Owen

Hegarty selling 10 million shares for margin calls before

the suspension occurred. A lot

of dissatisfaction with that

little mover. Babcock and Brown

is also in trouble. Are there

any more dominoes to

move? We've Seeney Babcock and

Brown and learn ing moving out.

Here banks are deciding not to

put out more to Oz Minerals a

and that issue is un decided. I

think there are a number of companies that are probably

going to the wall in all sorts

of sectors, particularly the

resource sector. A lot of

projects and share prices are

based on bubble-type conditions

that have our oh cured in the

last year and the realities

hitting home now. I think there

will be a litany of disasters

ahead of us. Cash is king and

debt is death at the moment.

And the market's polarising

care shair s into one of the

other. What a way to end the

year. Marcus Padley thank you

for your insiects all through

the year and for this evening. Pleasure to have been

on the program this year. The

other movers -:

With a slowing economy and

concerns about job security,

consumers are increasingly

looking for value when making

their purchases. And some

businesses have benefitted from

the strategic spending. The

wholesale grocer Metcash

announced that its first half

profit was down just over 7% to

$80 million, but strip str

stripping out a once off

charge, the grocer's earnings

rose to 13% to $100 million,

roughly in line with analyst

expectation. Metcash shares

were one of the only bright

spots on the market today,

gaining nearly 4% to close at

$4.15. And Andrew Reitzer is

the CEO of Metcash and earlier

today he spoke with Lateline

Business reporter Desley

Coleman. Andrew Reitzer thanks

for joining Lateline

Business. Pleasure. Your first

half net profit was down but

that was due to largely a once

off. Stripg out that once off

you managed to deliver quite a

strong first half. Absolutely

brilliant result. I think what

you have to understand is that

interest rate hedge was

something wre took out a year

ago when interest rates were

going up. To the moment we saw

braets going down, we had to

take our medicine and get rid

oift but we will get that money

back because we will be able to

enyou the lower interest rates

. If you leave that out, which

is the way to look at the core

business, sales up 8%, profit

after tax up 13%, dividend up

12%, a very strong

performance. Have you noticed

any changes in the way your end

customers are shopping? Oh,

yes. The two big things that

are happening, is number one,

they're buying more corporate

brands. So the house brand

especially black and cold Gold,

our sales of black and gold are

up 11%, our overall sales are

up only 8.5%, so we are selling

more black and gold. There's

more customers looking for more

value in their lines. And,

secondly, when you have promotions you sell more than

we used to. And you mentioned

today that your plan is to

expand in those lines. Yes. You

know, if you're a good

marketer, which IGA is, you

react to the consumer needs. So

the two big things I focussed

on is lifting the standards of

fresh and lifting the quality

and price ing of fresh and

corporate brands. The Reserve

Bank has lowered interest rates

today. And the Government's $10

billion economic stimulus

package is expected to start to

flow through next week. What

impact did you think that's

going to have on your

customers? I think in the basic

retailing space if you look at

the latest sales results that

have come out from the

Government as well, don't

consumers are doing OK. We've

had quite a few interest rate

cuts and those are like

immediate, they are immediately

into the consumer's pocket.

Petrol prices is the real big

one. Now down $1.05 and that

equates to about $90 a week for

ef I average Australian

families. And today's interest

rate cuts and we will just lead

more towards that. So we're

looking feared to a very strong

December. I think a consumers

are, we know that consumers are

eating less out in restaurant,

buying less takeaways, which

mean they into into Go to their

supermarket more often. The

grocery choice website sup and

running. Have you tested it out

yours and have you noticed any

impact on your volume s at

all? Obviously we've had a look

at it. And we're very aware of

it. We don't quite understand

how it gets done and what

they're trying to achieve. They

have a column on the screen

that just says independents -

we don't know what or who that

is. We don't have the exact

detail because it's a secret.

But it's definite ly not prices

in super IGA stores because I

have person ally done one

comparison where I put a postal

koid in and we track our

competitors prices every

day. You have to understand

that this is the most highly

concentrated grocery

supermarket in the world. And

to survive as the number three

we need to know what is going

on. So we're in their stores

every day, and monitoring

prices and comparing prices is

tough. What kind of rump steak,

they are four grades and you

can't judge it on taste, you

have to use a laboratory. And

our prices are there or

thereabouts and every now and

again we put in a postal codes

and it will show, I don't know

if I that're comparing like

products with like products but

it definitely hasn't affected

our business. Thank you for joining Lateline

Business. Pleasure. To

Canberra now and of 290 submissions if Federal

Government has launched the

first green paper on the

aviation industry. And reveal

add new policy position on

Qantas ownership. While the 49%

total foreign ownership

restriction stay, government

will consider dropping the 25%

cap for foreign individual

stakes and the 35% cap for

combined ownership by foreign

airlines. But there was much

more. Paul Tyrrell, CEO of the Regional Aviation Association

of Australia, was at the

briefing given by the Minister

for Transport and

Infrastructure, and I spoke

with him a short time ago. Paul

Tyrrell, welcome to Lateline

Business. Thank you,

ticky. Airport development and

planning attracted most

attention, says the Minister.

Just to be a bit Sydney-centric

for a second, a second airport

and not at Badgerys Creek? Yes.

Not a total surprise. I think

Badgerys Creek has been off the

agenda for some time. The

Minister did say that it would

not be in the Sydney basin. So

that had the room speculating a

little bit. So if it's not in

the Sydney basin, where might

it be? I guess there's some

obvious candidates - Newcastle,

wool goj, but I am not -

Wollongong, but I am not privy

to the Minister's anything. I

presume it will be in a largest

regional centre close to

Sydney, if it's not in the

basin of course. And there's

greater scrutiny generally for

development, more community consultation. Will any

development get off the

ground? This's always an

interesting one. Because while

consultation we - we welcome

consultation, often the

airports have been there a long

period before any

development. And therefore it

was pleasing to hear the

Minister say that he wouldn't

be approving development or

encouraging development under

flight paths. Can he, given dha

he is a Federal Minister and

presumably much of this is

State development? A's true.

But he has control over, you

know, where aircraft go,

through air services. And I

don't think he was in any mood

to make too many changes to

flight paths because of new

developments that have been,

how can I put it, poorly

planned. Australian airports

themselveses are now priefts

ides economic hubs. I think the

gross output was over $43

billion. I gather there's to be

more scrutiny, though, of what

airporties can charge

airlines? Yes. That was very

interesting and the room was

buzzing around that. I mean,

airports - some airports can

behave like monopolies. Others

are, I guess, kinder to their

operators. But some feel us in

their charging and we welcome

this extra scrutiny by the

Minister. That is using

possibly show cause notices,

presumably at places like

Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra? He

didn't indicate who, but he

said if he felt that there was

a reason to investigate further

he would issue a show-cause

notice. Consumer protection was

another focus of the green

paper. And there's a suggestion

that there be a review of

liability ires. And the

possibly introduction of strict

and unlimited liability for the

death of passenger. At the

moment, my understanding is is

there's a limit of $500,000 in

terms of a payout. Would that

not open a pandora's box for

insurance premiums,

particularly for regional

Australia? Ticky, am not fully

briefed on that issue but we

have been aware of this - this

has been coming for some

time. And there is some concern

about the level of liability

and the pandora's box that

you've mentioned. But the

Government has, I believe, sign

ud up to the Montreal agreement

and therefore it's a done deal

and we will have to leave lich

with it. We did put our case on

the table at the last few

years, but I understand that is

a done deal by the

Government. I wanted to ask you

about climate change. Qantas

says the industry would be a

big loser of such a carbon

pollution reduction scheme. So

what should the approach be I

have some sympathy for p tha

position. The aviation industry

by its very nature is always

trying to save on fuel. And is

always trying to become more

efficient. In fact it's a great

partner with the

environmentalists. I would like

to see some encouragement for

Australian industry, aviation

manufacturing to be involved in

better England yience, better

air - engines and the better

air frames and the track

shortening through the GPS

networks and we will be making

further presentations to the Government in a ponce to the

green paper in the next few

weeks. Finally, where is the

funding for all these great

changes going to come

from? Very good question. Can I

say this is the first national

affairiation policy paper this

country has ever had. So I

think this is a terrific step

forward. I believe the Minister

indicated that in the white paper there would be more

detail on this front. But in

this paper there wasn't much on

the financial detail front. I

guess we can look forward to

that. I hope so. Thank you very

much for joining us: Thank you. Australia's current

account deficit has shrunk to

its lowest level in six years.

A trade surplus led by higher

commodity prices saw the

September quarter defrsit drop

by almost a third, to a better

than expected 9.7 billion

dollars. But the plunging

Australian dollar pushed

Australia's international debt

7% higher, to a record $658

billion. Now a look at

tomorrow's business diary. And

the latest national accounts

are published containing the

GDP measure of economic growth.

Drilling services company Boart

Longyear will provide a market

update to ver investors. Two

key piece of economic data for

euro's own countries are

released. The PMI manufacturing

index along with retail sales

figures pr. The UK, the later

consumer confidence figures are

published. Before we go, a look

at what's making news in the

business sections of tomorrow's

newspapers. The the 'Age' looks

at today' equity market sell-off while the 'Australian'

concentrates on the Reserve

Bank's latest interest rate cut. The 'Sydney Morning

Herald' leads on the

Government's aviation green

paper, and the 'Australian

Financial Review' has a

different angle on the same

story, saying Qantas is in advanced merger talks with

British Airways. That's all for

tonight. As I leave you, the

dhow futures are up - Dow

futures are up 178 point and

the foots foots - FTSE is up.

If you want to match any part

of our program, you can watch

the entire program jop line.

Goodnight.

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And I thought it would be so cool if it was really great and it turned out to be... All they did was make fun of it. It was really sad. But it was really funny to me just to go, oh, my God, of all the places, if this kid only knew, "Where did I leave my student film? Fuck, where is it?" I've been coming here, God, for about 11 years now. It's a real cool, groovy, artistic town,

and it's a music town, it's a film town, and it's really great that way. I have to admit, I'm actually nervous about seeing her, because I haven't seen her in about five years. He's sitting on a motorcycle. Look at him.

Do you really? I feel really - No, no, no. I actually, I see you're a little nervous. No, I'm scared. Come on in. This entire complex is Robert Rodriguez and his wife Elizabeth's complex. This is Troublemaker Studios. Let me show you my office. You'll get a kick out of it. Me and Robert, we're doing like a double feature movie, We're doing two separate movies and we're releasing them together. But not like Twilight Zone The Movie. It's like he's done a whole movie - It's a double feature. Yeah And I've got to show you one of my things. These are all original 45s.

Oh, really? The original labels. Like, to give you an example. I have to tell you something. I just loved Extraordinary Machine so much. Literally, after I got it, I'd go up to my record room, I have a record room right next to my bedroom, and it got to be one of things, it was one of those albums that I had to play, you know, every day, for, like, weeks. That's the greatest thing to hear, because I remember sitting in your record room, and you were talking about other albums and I was like, "I wanna be one of the albums he's excited about." That was it. Now, there is a complete groove in the carpet, all right, that belongs to Fiona Apple, all right, where, you know, it's not like I'm sitting on the couch gellin', you know, I'm like, "I'm certainly not shopping for any new shoes and."

I really, really enjoy fitting words together,

but I only enjoy it when it's kind of easy, when it just kind of rolls along by itself. I never erase or cross out anything, I hardly ever write anything down, the song will be completely written in my head

before it's actually written down. I actually started breaking down some of her songs, as far as, just looking for my favourite lines, and I found that a lot of the lines I loved the most, not all of them, but a lot of the lines I loved the most were of violent imagery. She writes very violent sentences, all right, and evokes very violent imagery, and it's metaphorical and she also means it at the exact same time. NO, she did want to kill him at that moment.

Not really, but, yeah, really. My mum used to say that when there was anything wrong with me, that there would be three sounds, first, the sound would be of me stomping down the hall to my room, then the door slamming, and then just all this banging on the piano. I don't know. There was always something that I was drawn to

about the piano because of its percussive nature,

in the same way some people like to get their aggression out by playing drums or something, or hitting people. I like to hit the piano. # No matter what I try you beat me with your bitter lies # So call me crazy, hold me down # Make me cry, get off now, baby # It won't be long til you're lying limp in your own hands. #

Violence is one