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(generated from captions) I'm Kathleen Hyland. Hello and welcome to 'Stateline.' the National Sculpture prize, Creations from later in the program. and soul of our neighbourhoods - They were designed to be the heart the local shops. have a thriving retail centre, But while some suburbs than vacant stores. others have nothing more a case of supply and demand, Is it simply or are there other factors at play? Emma Renwick reports. are the heart of a community, If the local shops Canberra suburbs then there are more than a few needing urgent coronary surgery. to come together The idea of having somewhere that you know around the place, or to run into people of being a part of a community gives you a sense who just lives in a place. as opposed to being somebody Older Canberra suburbs with a shopping precinct in mind - were always designed of life, the butcher, the baker, home to the classic necessities to meet for a drink. and perhaps somewhere in local centres The provision of local shops '60s,'70s thinking - was very much based on '50s, you had one parent at work, where as I said, the other parent stayed at home, you had a two-parent household usually the mother, picked them up after school, she looked after the children, and that was the model walked down to the local shops in Canberra was done, on which planning for many suburbs our suburbs now work. but that is not the way is most evident in Giralang, The demise of that old way of life is still operating. where only a single shop When we moved in here, was doing pretty well - this shopping centre and a local shop... there was a thriving pub and a take away and a bakery of other little businesses going on and a number quite well at the time. and they seemed to be doing we moved in here, It was one of the reasons with a school and a shop it was one of those suburbs conveniences, it was really good. and all that sort of local things have gone down hill a bit Over the last few years though, at the end of this year, eventually culminating with everything being shut down, take away here. except for the Vietnamese ugly wasteland. So, we are left with this desolate, of the do we had This is just pictures came to Giralang tavern when the Olympic torch it was wonderful wasn't it? and the kids could do their laps.. Yeah. Truly was, yeah. The kids had a wonderful day. from last year. These are the Christmas shots of a very happy place. Yeah, good memories and run by Kevin and Pat Hassett. The Giralang tavern was owned so that was 13 years, We'd been there since 1992, and we had a big TAB outlet, it was a suburban tavern, basically, which was highly successful, was highly successful the business itself happy suburban tavern. and it was just a really Despite their success, renew their sublease for the tavern, the Hasketts were not able to of their business. effectively shutting them out all the way through. The goodwill was solid is the goodwill So what we've really lost

and furnishings and so forth inside, and the value of our stock once there was no lease. which virtually became worthless basically, That was our superannuation and that's gone out the door. are wholly owned by one company, The Giralang shops Nikias Nominees Pty ltd. in rent last year. The Hasketts paid them over $50,000

time and money obviously, We'd invested so much in it, because, you know, but yes it's very, very sad that we had this thriving business our expectations were demonstrate that with our books, which had grown, you know, we can it was a happy place it had grown, it was lively, that if we could've sold, and we knew good business to somebody else. we could of handed over a really Dino Nikias, While he declined to go on camera, of Nikias Nominees says one of the directors at the Giralang shops that it did not renew leases could not afford to pay the rent, because most lessees despite many receiving reductions. by the Nikias family The Supermarket which was operated closed just after Christmas. Nikias nominees has confirmed is now being proposed for the site. that a 100% residential development Nikias Nominess must demonstrate For that to happen, that the shops are no longer viable.

and put up 20 town houses, If you are able to knock it down you might make a fortune overnight. a vested interest There is of course

are providing the evidence in the people who commercial viability for this centre as to whether there is a

that there isn't. to in being able to prove for government So, it's a difficult one further information, as to how they source that viability further. or how they test to demonstrate We require the lease holder the viability of the centre, over the last six months and it's not just viability making the application, prior to them it's over the previous two years. It seems to be unfair to us

any part in maintaining, and that government didn't play

to maintain the shops or putting pressure on the landlord in the suitable fashion. to operate the centre If the owner is unwilling becoming derelict, then you end up with a centre it's own range of problems, and that also poses and sensibly with the developer so we try to work pragmatically and the owner. is that if the place is redeveloped The ironic thing I think, in it for them, there'll be good profit will make good money out of it too and similarly, government real losers in the whole business. so it seems that we're the only the Giralang shops are not viable A report by Nikias Nominees saying Planning and Land Authority. is now with ACT the company can then submit If they agree, a residential development proposal. and some residents While the Hassetts feel their rights have been shut down in this case, others would argue that the future of any local shops is a simple case of supply and demand. We do play a role, but at the end of the day shopping centres are owned by a private lease holder or holders and they're owned as an investment, they're owned as a business, and they need to focus on making sure they remain a viable business proposition. I would disagree with that - I think that the government has an active role in promoting community values and I think that although there are commercial realities involved in this situation, it's absolutely the responsibility of the government to get involved and ensure that this process is followed to encompass the needs of not only the lessees or the developers, but also the residents of Giralang and the ACT community at large. The Canberra film 'Prejudice' has been shown at festivals around the country as part of last week's NAIDOC celebrations. Nathan Ramsay was one of the writers and also happens to be one of the lead actors. I caught up with him to talk about the project, which is based on his own life experiences. You know, struggling actor -

it was always like "what restaurant to do you work at?", and I'm just working at a restaurant in Canberra just to... sort of pay the bills, or pay my way, to sort of make films, you know, when I'm not getting the work. This was the first project of mine. It was something 'cos I wasn't working and wanted to do. Because as an indigenous actor, when I go for auditions they ask for an Aboriginal character

so I go in but I'm not black enough for the role, then I go for normal roles and I'm not white enough for the roles, so I'm sort of caught in between two worlds. And with those experiences, I wanted to get try and get that out, get myself some work, right, I thought, well I'll write my own short film and put myself in it.

You're Italian, aren't you? I'm actually Aboriginal. Aboriginal, yeah. Listen, are you sure you're OK, I can't get you another drink or something? Mate, mate, no listen, I'll get you one. What's your poison? Hey! Get this man a flagon of red, punch a hole in it and give us two straws, eh?. It's what you abbos drink innit? They don't serve metho here. Mate, don't be a smartass. There's no way you're a boong. Why's that? Because I'm not jet black and have a big nose and big lips? No.

Because I'm not talking lingo like 'dis, bro? No. No, because you're well-dressed, you're not drunk, and you're not asking for anything. (Laughs) Mate it's not funny anymore, there's no way you're an abbo. I am. And it's Aboriginal or Indigenous Australian to you. Australian? Australian maybe a 1000 years ago. An just my experiences being of mixed blood, being a half-caste as they'd say, and that that's a new prejudice for Indigenous people. It's not just the traditional black Aboriginal person there's a new generation, there's a new prejudice. What have you coons ever achieved, eh? You're on the bottom rung of the evolutionary ladder man. Well, you're not, are you? You're half way up, because you're half-caste. The plot of the film is that I represent black Australia and he represents white Australia and through that I wanted to bring out the sort of confrontations, that I used to say to people just working at a restaurant or whatever, as soon as I tell them I'm Indigenous or Aboriginal. I get these funny questions and within that also, there's always an issue and racism comes out with some people. And I just wanted to put that in the face and see the questions that people want to ask or that people do ask - that's quite confronting and that's why we always have conflict. We work for our living and our government gives you guys everything. You're like pets. We have to look after you, we have clothe you, feed you, and house you. The only difference between you and animals is we can't put you down when you're caught roaming the street. The film is based in Canberra. We had some help from some local people, all in kind, the short film didn't cost us anything, thank God, besides the production costs and that. So we went up to Black Mountain Tower, because I wanted to put Canberra on the map a little bit when we showed the film, and we also shot out at NATEX our ceremony Corroberee scene also. Black reflects hate, deceit, and sin so you judge us and our brothers cruelly. Just because of the colour of our skin. And it sort of ends on a ground hog day sort of scenario - you know, this guy, it keeps happening to him, just like generations of Australians, this racism keeps coming up, and keeps returning

and has he learnt his lesson yet?

There you go, guys. Thanks very much. It's more to the point of also my own people seeing it and seeing what their reactions are, and seeing what my voice is, as a new generation of Indeigenous person

and see what they think. Because I have a couple of Elders see it, and their reactions are... they're very thrown back by it, but then once they see the end of the film and see what the message I'm trying to say is, then they fall into it, and then they understand.

They're very proud and they're very supportive of it. And a lot of the non-Indigenous community are also very receptive to it and understanding - and that's the sort of understanding that I want to get across in the film and awareness of Indigenous issues and where we're at with reconciliation at the moment. The very long professional life of 92-year-old Smoky Dawson has been recognised by the music industry. The nation's most famous cowboy was inducted this week into the ARIA hall of fame. It coincides with an exhibition of Smoky memorabilia at Sydney's powerhouse museum.

Sharon O'Neil reports on a remarkable life still in progress.

SONG: # Ridin', ridin' # in the Southern sky

# Ridin', Ridin' # Happy on the trail of life # They call him Australia's first and only cowboy

and at 92 years of age Smoky Dawson is still very much in the saddle. SMOKY: Let's get on the saddle again, and away we go. C'mon, Dot. (Immitates horse galloping) There he is. Together with his wife Dot, who will turn 99 later this year, he's still entertaining people in the same way he started out more than 70 years ago - on the radio. We just love it. We look forward to that Monday where we can talk to Australia. We say, "Good Time Radio". Generations of Australians have, over the years, come to know and love Smoky Dawson and he will be honoured by the Australian music industry, inducted into the ARIA Icons Hall of Fame. In an industry where people come and go every day and you see one-hit wonders and you see rock stars who become recluses... To have someone in the industry who is there for the love of music and for the love of people, you know, he's just an exceptional person. They don't make them like that anymore. So what does being nominated for the ARIA Hall of Fame mean for you at this stage of your life? Oh, I couldn't believe it. I thought that someone was having a bit of a joke. For Smoky Dawson life has been full of many wonderful surprises. But it didn't start out that way. After the death of his mother when he was very young Herbie, as he was known, suffered severely at the hands of a violent, alcoholic father. I was scarred all over by beatings. They were so bad that the court took me away from him for child abuse. I was put into St Vincent de Paul's Orphanage in South Melbourne so the next three years I was with the Christian Brothers. There I found that, although I was top of the class every year, you'd see that religion came first and it seemed like...the knowledge was in the seat of the pants and I got belted there as well from my old man. I felt that nobody could do a good enough job on me and I decided to do a better one myself. And indeed he did. He started performing on radio in the 1930s and cut his first record in 1941. The first one was 'I'm a Happy-Go-Lucky Cow Hand' and the fact is I was - very, very happy. (Smoky Dawson sings) # I'm a happy-go-lucky cow hand # (Yodles) # Part of that happiness was his courtship with Florence Cheers - or 'Dot' as Smoky calls her - whom he first met on an amateur radio program in 1933. After a long courtship they were married in 1944. I had gone through that time of life when I had more or less developed and started thinking for myself what life was about and one thing I did miss - getting cuddled. I saw kids getting nursed, babies and wished I - the little things in my life I missed out on 'cause I never remember my mother. So, you see, when Dot came along she supplied everything. She was my sweetheart, she became my mother, my wonderful wife. Did you ever think when you first met him that you'd go on to have the life together that you've had?

No, I'd have run away from it, I think. (Laughs) Did you ever think he was going to be so famous?

Is he famous? (Laughs) Well, he is pretty famous. I'm waiting for that day. But while Smoky may well have been kept in check at home, he did indeed become very, very famous. After serving in the Second World War and spending three years in hospital, Smoky Dawson eventually found his way to Nashville where he appeared at the Grand Old Opry and signed a recording contract with Acuff Rose - the managers of none other than Hank Williams. Tell me what your impressions of Hank Williams were? Well, Hank Williams - long, rangy, deathly white. He didn't last long after I'd met him anyway. He had a terrible life, and of course they were trying to keep him off the drink. Smokey Dawson returned from America to begin a new adventure which would take him into the homes of almost every Australian. He had the Smoky Dawson Radio Show which was syndicated across the country which included these dramatic adventure serials in which the hero was Smoky Dawson and his horse, Flash, and his sidekick Jingles and, you know, they chased the evil outlaw Grogan

and they abide by the code of the west and stop for a bowl of cornflakes provided by the sponsor. ANNOUNCER: Kelloggs, makers of your favourite breakfast cereals, present a new, complete adventure, with Australia's own... DAWSON: Up, Flash! Up, Up! At its height, the Smoky Dawson fan club reached 1 million members, as children all over the country signed up as deputy sheriffs to Smoky's code of the West. He could tell stories, he could do whip-cracking, and axe-throwing and knife-throwing as well as the musical skills and the sound effects and the magic tricks, so he's quite an all-round entertainer. The thing is, you just can't go out and say I'm going to be a singer. You've got to have a lot of things to do. If you have laryngitis, for argument's sake, what do you do if you've got a show? If you can throw a knife you can do a dumb act. That's how some of my fellows thought of me, too. When the television era effectively ended the radio show another adventure began for Smoky and Dot. They had purchased land at Ingleside

in Sydney's northern outskirts and there they set up the Smoky Dawson Ranch. It was a place for movie stars. People like Jack Thompson would come up and say, "Can you give me a 5-minute crash course? I told them "I could ride a horse and I can't." But more importantly a special place for children. They have been a big part of a lot of families

that have sent their children to Smoky Dawson's Ranch. Without any children of their own Smoky and Dot became honorary parents

to children from all walks of life. Tony Jablonski, who now trains horses for a living, learnt many of his horse skills from Smoky Dawson. He remembers many happy years visiting the ranch and is grateful to Smoky

who vowed to Tony's dying grandfather that he would look out for him. I think what he went through in his childhood has reflected in the way he talks to and cares for all the children and his association with all the charities. He basically doesn't want people to be without and to be happy and that's what he thinks of - trying to make people happy. And he did that for you? He sure did. Rock singer Jimmy Barnes first met Smoky Dawson eight years ago when they got together to record a duet to raise money for Westmead Children's Hospital. The song they chose was Hank Williams' 'Cold, Cold Heart'. BOTH SING: # ...Can't I free your doubtful mind # And melt your cold, cold heart # We recorded it when he was a young fellow - he was 84 - and believe me, he's still - 84 years young - and you listen to it now and it just warms my heart.

You hear his yodelling in the background and me sort of screaming. I said to him, "The trouble is, Jimmy, you shout too much, you scream," and he said, "Well, I'll try and sing as quiet as I can." So I wrote that little bit about, "Jimmy Barnes said he'd like to sing a song, "a nice quiet country song." But the way the whole thing turned out, it just turned out wrong. Said he'd sing it nice and quiet and all he did was sing and shout. Nobody heard me sing one word 'cause Barnsie drowned me out. At 92, Smoky Dawson says he and Dot have still got a lot of living and a lot of loving to do together. He plays love songs to me.

So you get serenaded? Oh, yes, yes. The 'Sunshine Girl's the best one. Another album from Smoky Dawson is due to be released this month - it will make him the longest-serving recording artist this country has ever produced. "Since I turned 80 all these years ago now I'm young and I'm spritely ever since I turned 90. I've still got my jeans, that's for sure. I'm getting frisky but the season's too risky for cuddling and loving any more." See what I mean? "My feet are firm on the ground for our second time round, Dotty."

Oh, is there more to come is there? "And together we'll...what? BOTH: "We'll live it all over again." You bet. The Sydney-based artist Glen Clarke is basking in the glory of winning the national sculpture prize, for his depiction of a bomb crater in Vietnam. The prize attracted a record number of entries. The field was not only highly competitive, but extremely varied in style and approach. Arthur Hill enters the broad and magical world of sculpture. SAXOPHONE MUSIC PLAYS Scultpure, as distinct from other art forms, actually occupies space, human space. So the same sort of space that we walk through, it takes up - unlike paintings which go on the wall. So you really have to deal with sculpture - you have to walk around it, interact with it in a more physical way than other art forms. And that's why it attracts a lot of artists. And the idea is that it's a collective organism, if you will. Each individual robot flower goes up and down

performing an overall choreographed dance. Oh - it's always been sculpture for me I guess. I just really - I relate to objects, firstly, before I relate to flat pictures, it's just been the impulse. I can't paint. I'm a builder, I like to build things up from scratch - that's just what comes easily to me. I just enjoy the process of building and watching something grow. ...of structures in the landscape that we use in that way to take us to places that we wouldn't be able to go otherwise. The image-making has been going on since the stone age. And some of us are afflicted with this and we carry on doing it, I guess. In recent times, all the things that are literally not painting have been made into sculpture. and then you know, you want to see what it is really like and you can only prove it by making it.

It's alright having conceptual visions, but I at least need the object - importantly. As an sculptor, you want people to be drawn in, you want people to stay with your work, scratch their head. If they understand what it is, they'll move onto the next piece. You want to hang onto them. Now the same with sculpture. Even though sculpture is so tactile, you want to touch. If you want to touch, then it's good work. I'd always wanted to do sculpture, and then I started using found objects to make sculpture and, ah mechanics. And then I just haven't left it - I just fell in love with it. Well, it's fantastic because the work that surrounds me is just amazing. You know, the show is great, so I feel really privileged to be here. It is a wonderful opportunity. And that's the program. We'll leave with you with paintings by the Papunya Tula artists, showing at the Aboriginal Dreamings Gallery at Gold Creek. The music is by indigenous rock band Noktunrl from Alice Springs. Goodnight. Captions by Captioning and Subtitling International.