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ANNOUNCER: Today at the

National Press Club His

Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama.

With his title meaning ocean of

wisdom, his mission on this

visit is to propagate genuine

kindness and compassion. With

his speech 'Open Arms Embracing Kindness', His Holiness the Kindness', His Holiness the

National Press Club address. Dalai Lama with today's

(Bell rings) Ladies and gentlemen, welcome

to the National Press Club and

today's National Australia Bank

address. It will be delivered

by His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

It is a great pleasure to

fact the third time welcome him back. This is in

fact the third time that he's

joined us at this forum to

share his incites on the issues

of the world and the human

condition. Who better to do it,

please welcome His Holiness the

Dalai Lama. APPLAUSE

Chairman, rest of the members

of the club, indeed, I'm very

happy and feel great honour to speak once more

speak once more here and also

afterwards to answer. So to

that way, I usually feel some

kind of benefit to my talk. You

get some of my sort of part, or

my experience, and then through

question and answer I also

question and answer I also get

a fuller knowledge, or at least

some knowledge, about the

mostly currently concerned people's mind, what they are

about. So through that way,

sometimes I got sort of

surprise questions and those

are also very helpful. I have

to think and think more and

more like that. So, therefore,

the question and answer usual

ly is very useful and very

helpful to me.

Open arms. Open arms. Oh,

open arms. Actually, I think

the very nature of sort of

human behaviour because we as a

social animal and individual

social animal and individual

happiness, individual

successful days is very much

determined on the rest of the

human society, the human

community. So they come

together basically I think two

think arms not meant for like that. I

think if our hand is just for

hit, then no need these

fingers, five fingers, but

these, I feel, is to bring

together hug ing. To embrace

each other. So now at the

beginning I want to share some

of my basic sort of commitments or

or thoughts and wherever I go I

always try to promote human

value and my second commitment

or my interest is promotion of

harmony in the tradition. So in

these two fields, I believe the

immediate people also very

important roles. So I want to

explain something on that

level. Third, my commitment or

my responsibility is about

Tibet issue. Perhaps people

here may have more interest

about the Tibetan problem

rather than the previous

issues, but anyway whether you

are bored or not, I am going to

say. Two things. (Laughs).

I always feel and also share

with people when we look back

to the century I feel the

century seems most important of

human history human history because during

that period human being I think

invented many, many different

things beside knowledge and

science and also some

ideologies and some systems.

Some different practice. So, in

the 21st century I think the 21st century I think we

human beings carried different

experiment in many fields and

within that same century I

think humanity I think gets

much deeper experience out of

their own experiment. Also, out

of their findings. So, now

differences in early part of 20

th century I think one field,

the people generally they only

consul tate in major interest about

about material involvement. I

think 1 #th century, 1 # 9th

century, I think people people

really put a lot of effort for

material comfort. (18th

century, 19th century) later in

particularly the century, humanity I think

particularly in what was called

affluence society. Who have

material society and everything

there, in that society now

people get limitation of

material value. So, through

that way begin to think about

our inner word. Also in the

scientists research work, in

that field, until early part of

20th century people, many

scientists, feel their

spirituality and modern science

is something to separate on a

different approach. Seems there

is no connection. In the

century they will change.

Because as a result of human

sort of deeper knowledge or

deeper interest about neurones

or Britain function, these

things, and also real ise

importance of human emotion in

the feel of health. (Field) So

then among the scientists also then among the scientists also

now showing some interest about

the explanation as versus

experience in the spiritual

practitioner experience

including Tibetan Buddhist

meditation actually carries

some experiment while they

meditate in different subject. meditate in different subject.

What kind of change take place

in them sort of possibly the

brain functions. Also, I think

in the 20th century I think

that many people feel #u89 mate

ly - ultimately the decision

somehow related withiousing

force - with using force. I

think that also has changed in

the later part of the 20th

century. The concept of

non-violence, the concept of re

conciliation through dialogue

tried to find solutions. The

non-violence idea, even becomes

the political sort of field.

South Africa under the

supervision of Nelson Mandela,

despite some involvement in the

earlier period, but later he

fully carried sort of change or transformation transformation of South Africa

through non-violent principles.

So, these are - and then just

before the era crisis happened,

how many people come out and

express against using violence

from Australia up to the United

States? And then States? And then among the

leaders, among the politicians

also, who often express

themselves and occasionally in

their speech the word

"compassion" sometimes finds a

place. So I think they are

signs of positive

signs of positive change. In an

important case in the religious

people in priest sort of

centuries or in the past

(previous) many religious

people, very much the emphasis

just on their own tradition.

It's the only tradition. That

kind of attitude. That also has

changed. Politically, the late changed. Politically, the late

Pope. He's becoming much more

sort of open-mind ed or

accepting that there are

different traditions. Then

another earlier period, the

people I think have no concern

about ecology or about ecology or nature's

resources. The people just feel

that we have this sort of

special right to exploit as

much as we can and consume,

only consume. Now later the

20th century we are beginning

to real ise not only to consume

or use nature's resources, but

also we have the responsibility to take care of

to take care of the planet.

Even the political body with

that ideology and principle

also happened so that we have a

party like that. So these are I

think important and also in the

earlier part of the 20th

century the people, century the people, some

leaders, brilliant people,

bleefr transformation of the

society through dictatorship.

That actually experimented. So

within the 20th century, more within the 20th century, more

or less it's that kind of

belief. Now they are changing.

The new system with the

expenses of freedom was started

in the Soviet Union, within the

same century, that's changed. same century, that's changed.

So once more, basic human nature, human part of human

nature, the important part of

human nature, the human

creativity is so essential in

every field for that freedom is

most important. Without individual freedom

individual freedom the

individual cannot take this. So

creativity is so essential.

Family level, community level

or national level like that. So

these are signs of positive

change. So , I feel in the change. So , I feel in the

early part of the 20th century

if I talk about the human

value, compassion, forgiveness,

these things, that there is

less people showing interest.

Nowadays in America, and Europe

and in many pars of the world

there are people

there are people really showing

interest about our inner

values. Irrespective whether

they are a believer or

non-believer. In fact some

organisations and many will say

in some time I met some people. Those people Those people are yieldy

concerned - are really

concerned about degeneration of

human moral principle among the

secular community. Meantime,

they have more interest about

religious faith, but be side

religious faith, they are

really eager the find ways and

means to promote human

means to promote human moral

ethics. So now scientists also,

they begin to realise that warm

heartedness, compassionate

attitude, very positive factor

to our health

to our health and positive

emotion, such as compassion -

this is very helpful to carry a

mental function in a normal

way. Anger, hatred, very bad or

greatest obstacle to carry

normal - to carry function of normal - to carry function of

our normal part of the

brain. Brain activity. Brain

activities. Negative emotion

fully developed. You can't see

the reality. So, any decision

take under the doing your mind

fully was dominated by anger, hatred, then

hatred, then often decisions

become wrong decision because

you can't see the reality. So,

in order to carry, study or

analyse lock ically peaceful

mind, normal mind, is very

essential. Some scientists told essential. Some scientists told

me as far as health is

concerned compassion, sorrow,

affectionate mind, actually

increase ing our immune system.

Anger, hatred is actually


literally eaten. Eating away. Literally eating away the

human system. So I think as a

result of meeting with many

people in many lectures, it

seems now many people really

are showing interest in humanity where humanity where they really need

some kind of principle which is

based on warm heartedness. That

I call secular ethics. Not

necessarily with fate. If you

have faith, very good, very

helpful to increasing, to stand in

in these inner values, but

without faith through reason,

through our own common

experience we can stand these

inner values. So that I usually

call secular ethibs. Now

secular, the mean ing of

secular, of course I'm not an

expert in the English word.

expert in the English word. I

have broken English, very, very

poor, but court some of my

friends, some say secular means

something like rejection of

religious - religion. But in

fact in the Constitution itself

is based on secular,

secularism. So that does not secularism. So that does not

mean rejection of religion, but

respect of all religions. Treat

equally all different

traditions. Also, respect

non-believers. That I think is

the real meaning of secular.

Secularism. So I believe that. So

So therefore I usually believe

the secular ethics, promotional

secular ethics on the basis of

our basic experience and also

the modern scientific findings.

So that's my number one

commitment - promotional human


value. Once you have the more

compassionate attitude.

Compassion, I usually make

distinction. Love or

compassion, which essentially

is mixed with attachment.

Another compassion or affection

actually is comthrough

training. It comes through

certain concept. That

compassion is unbiased

compassion. Because that

compassion can extend to our

enemy, so-called enemy. As far

as enemy behaviour or attitude towards your self

towards your self is negative.

That's why we call them an

enemy. But these enemy also

human being, also houb. They

also have every right to be

heavy person with successful

lsh happy person with

successful life. On that level,

concern about their future,

about they welfare, that's

genuine compassion. Unbiased.

So that compassion can develop

through deep er awareness. Now

here I feel, as I mentioned

before, human being, social

animal, and two days reality in

economy field and also environment issue.

environment issue. The world

simply becomes like one entity.

Traditionally and jog fixically

Australia is a bit isolated

island or I don't know,

continent. (Laughs). But now

today your economy, your

environment, your future very

much depends on other parts of

the world. So now that's the world. So now that's the

reality. So according to that

sort of reality, now our

concept, century-old concept

real, that's actually I think

- Obsolete. Obsolete. Outdated.

We have to look at other

humanity, just like part of yourself.

yourself. So, therefore, we

have to treat others as your

own family member and that

attitude brings strong sense of

dialogue. Whenever we find some

difficulties - through

dialogue, through

understanding, through human ways to solve

ways to solve the problem. Not

relying on weapons. So concept

of war I think is past. So here

often I am telling people now

the time has come to think

seriously about the demilitary

ised group. Of course, not

written - written - not within our

lifetime, but we have to have

some sort of idea, wishes. So

for that they need external

disarmament. For that we need

internal disarmament. Through

that we really achieve genuine

last ing world peace.

last ing world peace. That does

not moan no longer any problem.

But problem that is there. So

we need technique to face the

problem. That's dialogue. So I

am often telling people, 20 th

century becomes century of

bloodshed. Now this 21st

century should be century of

dialogue. So now to education. dialogue. So now to education.

Not there religious sort of,

but education. We have to work

for more human values and the

spirit of dialogue. First,

number one. The second point

religious harmony. Now all

different traditions have

philosophy, different

traditions and send a message of love, of love, compassion,

forgiveness, contentment,

self-discipline and so on. So

all measures of tradition you

see carries essentially the

same mean ing. The different

philosophy is necessary because

different positions will need a

different approach to stand

with these human values. So

this comes at an end, the

responsibility and the common responsibility and the common

message and all these

traditions have the same

potential to help humanity. So

the promotion al dis harmony is

very possible and many parts of

the world now I think genuine spiritual productivity is

increasing. Now to that


I want to share with I want to share with you a

different aspect of the Tibetan

problem. Number one, because of

the geography situation, the

ecology problem about Tibet is

very, very crucial. Because

misery covers almost all of

Asia, originally Tibetan

monkans universe. So therefore

we need special we need special to pay

attention about preserve these

sort of equal balance, nation's

balance of ecology in Tibet.

This is very essential. This is

not just interest for people,

but I think at least being or

human beinging. The whole life

of people in India depends on

began ji and some other began ji and some other reverse

and also Pakistan and China,

reverse. Sometimes it creates a

lot oaf problem, but life,

historically the Yellow River

is very essential. So the

preservation of special

protection, special pay

attention about Tibet ecology

is very essential. This is

number one, one number one, one aspect. The

second aspect, Tibetan

spirituality. Buddhism.

Buddhist culture. Tibetan

culture. In India, it is quit

well-known of their

institution. So that tradition

really really provides us on

both sides warm-heartedness as both sides warm-heartedness as

well as brilliance of the mind.

So, therefore, even as I said

earlier some scientists,

well-known respected scientists

also showing a keen interest

about the explanation about

emotion or about mind according

to tradition. So that

tradition, rich tradition really would

really would like to preserve

not only for the Buddhist

community there. I think the

number of Buddhists who follow

Tibetan Buddhism is around 13

or is 4 million, something like

that in Mongolia and also the

whole of morning India and

Nepal like that. Then into

China. Millions of China. Millions of Chinese traditionally Buddhist and

nowadays because of the new

circumstances more new realision, more and more

Chinese now becoming more

special minds and Christians,

also a Christian number in

China is rapidly increasing as

were Buddhist. Many Chinese are

Buddhist are showing genuine

respect and interest about

Tibetan Buddhism. I think

around a million Chinese now

already practising Tibetan

Buddhism. So preservation of

Buddhist culture and Buddhism

is also not just interest for 6

million people, but also for

the larger community. Then a

human violation. All over human violation. All over

China. Of course, the stand of

respect of human right s are

stul poor because of that still

very poor and including Tibet,

therefore the violation of

human right issue also is an

issue. Then politically, Tibet

jog graphically existed between

China and India. Then China,

India, these two nations are

most populated two nations. So

genuine good relations between

India and China. Interest not

only for these two countries,

but also the whole of Asia and

to some extent the whole world.

Therefore, in order to develop

genuine friendship between

these two nations on the basis

of mutual trust, complete

normalcy of Tibet is essential. Because of the

Because of the policy the

modern 95% of Tibetans are deep

inside very much sad and very

much resented. As a result

China has - China's Government

have to station large seektive

personnel, include ing

liberation Army. So so long

liberation Army. So so long

large military personnel remain

there. Naturally, suspicions,

dis trust and understoodeans.

Naturally. Not easy to reduce

that. So once Tibet becomes genuinely

genuinely peaceful, and then the Chinese Government can

reduce the military personnel

and from the Chinese viewpoint,

the Chinese Government can

stability, union ty and prosperity. We fully support

that. And the present of

people's republic of China,

very much emphasis importance

of harmony. So now in order to

achieve that, firstly the

Chinese policy regarding die

bet should be realistic. Not just just talking about how to

control these people. Not that

way. But how to bring genuine

loyalty and genuine friendship.

Now for that reason, I

usuallyious the word "our" because moderniers we already have

have elected political addition

so my position now since then

is the same position. So the

final decision is in his hand

and not my hand. I am acting

like senior adviser. So

therefore I usually use the

word "our". So our approach, not

not seeking separation. Not

seeking independence. In

respect of past history to this

world, this is time come

together, not separate baution

of the economy interest and I

already mentioned this. Look,

the European Union. I am

wondering one day New Zealand and and you will union night in

nations. I don't know. And more

nation islands. European union

I really admire. In the past,

the small states, they really

sacrifice, they are willing to

sacrifice their own life for

the preservation of their

sovereignty of these things,

but according to the new

reality now they are willing reality now they are willing to

sacrifice their own things

right, including their

currency. Isn't it? Now euro

current cy reaches many places

in Europe. So this is a sign of

progress. Thinking about common

interest rather than my estate,

my nation like. That So from

that viewpoint with Tibet

that viewpoint with Tibet also,

specialy quit advanced,

therefore, as far as material

is concerned, we remain in

China and we get much greater

benefit. That is our main

reason. Not seeking separation.

The Chinese Government should

give us meaning ful autonomy.

So that - that is for

preservation of Tibetan culture, including the

language, developing

spirituality and also the kind

of sufficient pay attention

about protection of

environment. At the moment the

decision makers in tight bet,

they are Chinese who have no

experience idea about culture and no

experience about Tibetan

ecological things. So those

Tibetans who are in a higher

position, but essentially no

power. So that's the

difficulty. What we are asking

is give us in those fields,

Tibetan can handle Tibetan can handle well because

better knowledge, better

experience. So let them have

the authority of decision. The

difference and the foreign

affairs should carry by central

government, but the rest of the

business, Tibetan can work.

They should have the final

authority. So that means

autonomy. Actually, the Chinese

Constitution is provide ed Constitution is provide ed

autonomy, status different

level in the region or

controversy or like that. So,

we feel that's the best way to

achieve harmony, stability,

unity, and prosperity. So

APPLAUSE that's all. Thank you.

Thank you very much, your

holiness. As usual we have a

period of questions for you

today. Good afternoon, your

holiness and welcome to

Canberra. As of this morning, the Australian Prime Minister

was still un decided about

whether or not he would meet

you, presumably because he was

afraid of upsetting the

Chinese. Generally, how many

harder has it become to push

the cause of Tibetan autonomy

now that China is emerging as a great power and are you finding

it harder to get audiences with

world leaders than you did,

say, 20 years ago? Repeat the

later half. Are you finding it

harder to get audiences with

world leaders than you did with

20 years ago?

The first part, last few days

many people have asked about

that, whether I will meet the

Prime Minister or not.

Actually, I always repeat ed

the main purpose of my visit

here is two things - promotion

of human value and promotion of

religious harmony. Not the

Tibetan issue. For my part,

there is no political agenda to discuss with the Prime

Minister. So if I have the

opportunity of meeting the

Prime Minister, perhaps I can

visit him as an old friend, one

that I met. So, I'm happy. I

will be happy. If not, it

doesn't matter. On this table I

heard the Prime Minister may

receive me. I don't know. Ask

the Prime Minister's Office. APPLAUSE (Laughter) The second

part, the Tibet issue, as I

mentioned earlier, the interest

for Chinese own future these

autonomous division, mainly

three autonomous divisions are

very important. In Mongolia division very important. In Mongolia divisio Australia on themy of division.

The local people call the

division of Tibet. The

population is smaller, but the

area of the land - huge And

also changes with tight bet:

So in order to have peace

ful, genuine, harm nous country

in China, they have to pursue

realistic approach to realistic approach to these

different ethnic groups. Just

to suppress more military

personnel and more suppression

is the temporary answer. Not a

long measure. Not a long-term

measure. So therefore many measure. So therefore many Chinese writers are very

critical about their own

government policy. So many

writers and thinkers are

support ing our approach. I

think some leadership, some

government, I think their help

increasing about the particular

issue. Some cases I think like

the United States increase ing.

The administration, really commit

commit ed and from previous

administration they actually

appoint ed special coordinator

regarding Tibet issue. So these

are serious commitment and also

both houses of the United

nations States and also some smaller

nations in Europe also there

support increasing. Some cases,

as you mentioned, a bit...but I

understand. I think Australia,

as far as Australia is

concerned, I think the public

concern seems I think

increasing. Isn't it? What do

you think? APPLAUSE

And I think more and more

people who really having

interest about ecology, that

also is increase ing and they

are concerned about Tibetan

ecology. I think very soon in

India I think international

sort of conference on ecology I

heard going to be organised. I

heard. Then I saw a reflection

of the public concern and the

public sort of feeling. Many

media people, also celebrity,

state ing about the Tibetan state ing about the Tibetan

problem. Especially in the last

few days about the possible

meeting with the Prime

Minister. All these news items.

They always mention that.

(Laughs). In my mind, not that

serious, but their minds seems

to be very, very serious. I

don't know. APPLAUSE

Next question from Sandra

O'Malley. Your Holiness from

the Australian Associated

Press. As you be aware China

has become Australia's biggest

trading partner and they rely

very much on our coal and iron

ore to fund their going

expansion. Should Australia's

leaders be using that trading

relationship to have more

influence on their human rights

record, do you think?

Generally the American -

America where they should give

special con sent - what is

that? Favoured nation status.

In America should give that

permanent or not. At the time I

express China most populated

nation, therefore it is

absolutely wrong to isolate

China and also contend -

contain China. It is wrong.

Morley also wrong. So (morally)

China muss be in the mainstream

of reality and now they want to

join the world commoun. Most

welcome. Very good. However, in

principle matter, while you are

making good relation, genuine

friendship with China, there

are certain principles such as

human rights and also

democracy, rule of law, free

press, these things you should

stand firm. So that means you

are true friend of China.

Whatever they done, you say,

"Oh, good, wonderful,

wonderful" and then Chinese

Isn't themselves lose their face.

Isn't it? If someone is a true

friend, then you're mystic and

friendly telling you, this is a

mistake, please my dear friend,

don't do that. This consequence

is negative. Then you feel,

this is my true friend. If you

are doing wrong things but friends are saying friends are saying "marvellous,

marvellous" then you may

develop a suspicion. Oh, he

isn't my friend, but actually

not genuine friend. No. At a

human level I think it's that

situation, isn't it? Too much

pride. It spoil other people.

Clear. That's my feeling. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE

More balance. Remain firmly

good friend, good friendship,

good partner, but at the same

time in certain fields, stand

firm. Telling them not

negatively, but friendly way. APPLAUSE

Next question from Chris

Next question from Chris Johnson. From the West

Australian, Your Holiness. You

mentioned in your speech the

need for us to protect the

planet. In Australia, there's

been a number of religious

leaders increasingly entering

the political debate over

climate change. As a spiritual

leader yourself, do you think

religion has a legitimate role

in the politics of the

environment? And could you share with us what you do share with us what you do to

reduce your carbon footprint?

Oh. I think firstly, some

people consider my activities

regarding Tibetan regarding Tibetan national

struggle. They say politics. I

feel this is not politics. What

kind of politics? The party

politics some places seem a bit

dirty politics. Isn't it?

(Laughs). But the politics or

struggle for national sort of survival, it's

survival, it's not that kind of

politics. If you see a kind of

politics which I involve is

truly the party politics or

something like that, a kind of

dirty politics then a person

not only as a dilemma, but also

as a monk, I think should

avoid. Not not involve. But certain

certain struggle z certain

activities that are aiming for

benefit of larger community

that is a service to the

community. So sometimes many

years ago some Christian

leaders in Latin America

surrender ed and carried some sort

sort of struggle to against

corruptions or these things and

some of these religious leaders

were outspoken. Just a breach were outspoken. Just a breach

in the church and no pay

attention what is going on in

society. That is wrong. You

have to take serious look as a

concern about what is it that

we want in the society because

you dedicate ed service as a

fair human being. Suppose you

are worshipper of God, believe in

in God. So, you have to take

serious concern about all

creatures of God. Of course I'm

Buddhist. I have no idea about

God, but I'm talking according

to rel igion. It is important. All All creations are God

creations. As much as we love

God we have to show love to all

creatures. So that's my view.

Regardless of the political consequences. You have to talk.

You have to raise these points. You have to raise these points.

Provided you should be in the political field of political

parties is concerned, you

should be complete ly unbiased.

Neutral. If you want to join

this party or that party, then

change your rope and change political party.

Danielle Cronin. Good

afternoon, Your Holiness. You

spoke in your speech about

reconciliation. I was wondering

if you could give us your

thoughts on efforts to

reconcile Indigenous and

non-Indigenous Australians and

what would be your message to

the governments trying to address

the problems facing their

Indigenous people ? That is a

very good question, a very

serious question. Generally, I

have genuine interest to all

these different Indigenous

people in Latin America, in

Europe, in America,

Europe, in America, India and

also as a result I also have

some contact with these people

from different continent. The

particular sort of situation

here with the Indigenous

people. I have no sort of

solutions or information or

solutions or information or

study so I don't know. I have

no particular suggestion, but

generally the Indigenous

people, they also human being and

and furthermore they are the

original owner of the land. In

Canada, people used to call

first nation, the Indigenous people. They call them first

nation. Wonderful. And also in

New Zealand the Maoris, they

of enjoy I think more equal sort

of status. Some indigenous

people in Latin America, in

Beirut, some other Inger

people. Last year I met and

previous visit I also met and

they were concerned about their

own right and their own future.

own right and their own future.

But the method to preserve

their identity, their own

culture, they prefer isolation.

That total ly mistake. In order

to precertificate their own

culture they remain isolated.

It is almost like suicide. So I

pointed out to these people north scand neigh ean

countries, they thorough ly

edgecated about modern

education. For example there

the people speak Norwegian very

the people speak Norwegian very

good and they yew tillise all

of the modern facilities and

they have their own Parliament

so that is the way we are full

of modern - complete modern

education for modern facility

with their own dielect or their

own language and their own sort

own language and their own sort

of songs like that. So that is

the right way. Now I if I have

the opportunity of meeting some

of the native people I am going

to suggest to them, please

study, please get education. In

the meantime, some of it is

good for you to you tillise the

modern facility, including

medical sort of facilities.

Then build their own society in

a healthy way. That is my

suggestion. Beyond that, I

don't know. If you really need

my suggestion, then at least I

think I have to go in this area

and then spend some time

experience their own way of

life. I don't know what kind of

life. (Laughs). So, it is more

closely study. I don't know.

Anyway, it is very good, very

encouraging, it is more and

encouraging, it is more and

more sort of people now showing

what is concern about the right

of the native people. That is

good. Good. Next. Well,

unfortunately, Your Holiness,

we might have to end there. You

u have a packed program and

have to leave on time. We thank

you for the past hour and we

would like you to have this

membership of the club and a

clock to rebehind you it is a long time

long time since you were here

last time. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE Closed Captions by CSI

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