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(generated from captions) that there's very little you can do to stop it.

You can't cordon off Bali. You can

step up vigilance, but these kinds

of things are simply

step up vigilance, but these kinds of things are simply not

of things are simply not preventable in the sense that we would like to

think they are. As terrorism once

again strikes Indonesia, those

behind the bloodshed are again

thought to be members of the group

described as the surrogate of

al-Qaeda in South East Asia, Jemaah

Islamiah. The problem is we're not

quite sure what JI is any more.

quite sure what JI is any more. It's probably not the same organisation

that it was three, four years ago,

but certainly at this stage it's

safer to assume that there have

but certainly at this stage it's safer to assume that there have

safer to assume that there have been some elements of JI involved. I

don't see any other group that

don't see any other group that could be responsible for deploying and

recruiting suicide bombers. South

East Asian director of the

International Crisis Group, Sidney

Jones, believes the attacks were

almost certainly orchestrated by

Asia's most wanted extremist,

Malaysians Doctor Azahari and

Noordin Muhammad Top, thought to be

behind at least two previous terrorist attacks in

behind at least two previous terrorist attacks in the region.

For a while there's been a faction

within JI that has wanted to go

ahead with bombings of western

targets. We also think there's been

a faction that's probably larger,

that's actually opposed to this

that's actually opposed to this kind of activity and has distanced

of activity and has distanced itself from Top and Azahari. Those two

however we think

from Top and Azahari. Those two however we think have consolidated

however we think have consolidated a group around them that's focused on

recruiting younger members, in

recruiting younger members, in their 20s. Doctor Azahari on the left is

known as the demolition man for his

knowledge of explosives. Noordin

Muhammad Top is the money man. The

three suicide bombers are likely to

be recruits of the pair. By

sacrificing themselves for the

faith, they're performing an

exemplary task in religious terms,

exemplary task in religious terms, so we're unlikely to find that

so we're unlikely to find that these are people who were hopeless or

suicidal or desperately poor or

whatever. It's much more an active

orientation toward sacrificing

themselves for an Islamic cause.

The attack on the weekend follows

The attack on the weekend follows a series of terrorist bombings around

this time of year in Indonesia.

this time of year in Indonesia. Just over three years ago,

this time of year in Indonesia. Just over three years ago, 202 people

were killed in the twin bombings in

Bali. In August 2003, a blast

outside Jakarta's Marriott Hotel

killed 12. In September last year,

10 people died when a suicide car

bomb exploded outside the

bomb exploded outside the Australian Embassy in Jakarta. It's about 12

months for JI to plan this sort of

an operation and by chance the last

operation was during that time, so it's more

operation was during that time, so it's more of a cyclical thing.

This time, it was not car bombs

This time, it was not car bombs but vests packed with explosives.

vests packed with explosives. Police have located the severed heads of

three suicide bombers. Clearly

three suicide bombers. Clearly , we've seen a variety of detonators

being used in the course of the

bombings over the last couple of

years, with mobile phones being

used, remote detonation devices and

devices that are activated by

suicide bombers and it just shows

you the difficult nature of trying

to police these things, when you

to police these things, when you see the video clip of that person

walking into the restaurant, how is

that person different to any other

person who was in restaurant and

person who was in restaurant and who would be drawn to the attention of

that person? I mean, it is a very

difficult task. In recent years,

there have been a series of arrests

of key JI operatives and suspects.

there have been a series of arrests of key JI operatives and suspects.

Cleric Abu Bakar Bashir is behind

bars. Hambali, the former JI

operations chief, is in the hands

operations chief, is in the hands of the CIA. And those responsible for

the 2002 Bali bombings have been

arrested and most convicted. In a

speech just last week, President of

the international

the International Crisis Group,

former Foreign Minister Gareth

Evans, declared that JI has all but

dead.

Evans, declared that JI has all but dead. My organisation's perception

is that the Jemaah Islamiah

is that the Jemaah Islamiah regional division that covered Australia has

been now effectively smashed, and

that JI as such no longer

constitutes the serious threat to

Australia an Australian interests

that it previously did. Part of

that it previously did. Part of that might actually be wishful thinking,

but also part of it might be part

but also part of it might be part of of an agenda to basically sort of

ununderstate the threat of ununderstate the threat of terrorism as opposed to

ununderstate the threat of terrorism as opposed to some people think the

government's overstating. A report

co-authored by terrorism specialist

Aldo Borgu from the up a Strategic Policy Institute warns of the

ongoing threat of terrorism in the

region. The fact is that it doesn't

take many people to undertake an

operation like this. All you

literally need is a dozen or so

people who are committed enough and

have the know-how to actually

undertake this sort of an attack.

I don't think there's any question

but that JI is a

I don't think there's any question but that JI is a weaker

but that JI is a weaker organisation than it was three years ago. We've

seen much of its top leadership put

behind bars. And we've seen a

growing sense within the

organisation that this is not the

right thing to do, that you don't

want to go around bombing western

targets in Indonesia, because what

it results in is damage to the

organisation. So I do think we're

organisation. So I do think we're in a much better position. I do think

that the police have stepped up

security in Indonesia. I do think

the government is more committed to

eliminating these kinds of

eliminating these kinds of terrorist cells than they were, for example,

even two years ago or one year ago.

But as police continue their

investigation into these latest

investigation into these latest acts of terrorism, and those affected

begin the long road to recovery,

it's hard not to wonder what or where next. That report from Tracy Bowden. Shortly after being informed of the blasts, Australia's Ambassador to Indonesia, David Ritchie, flew from Jakarta to Bali. He's spent the past 24 hours visiting the bomb sites and the scores of injured Australians receiving medical care at local hospitals, and it's a task that he's all too familiar with. Since taking up his post, David Ritchie has had to deal with the aftermath of both the Marriott Hotel and embassy bombings. In the case of the latter, the bomb ripped away the walls of the Ambassador's office. I spoke to David Ritchie a short time ago. Ambassador Ritchie, you arrived in Bali yesterday. What's the sentiment among people you've spoken to? Are people simply stunned that this has happened to Bali yet again? Yes, I think that's exactly the sentiment, Maxine. We're all a bit stunned and shocked